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post Aug 27 2014, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(Frozen_Sun @ Aug 27 2014, 04:37 PM)
Eurofighter is one of the candidates for F-5 replacement.....A-400M will be bought in 2nd Renstra of MEF program, which falls under Jokowi's administration
Hopefully they will buy Eurofigther ASAP....... biggrin.gif
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post Aug 27 2014, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(junchuan @ Aug 27 2014, 04:55 PM)
what happen to our attack heli?? i thot a while ago i saw deftech join forces with bell for ah1z??  whistling.gif
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only wait next RMK only have news, no budget for now. most budget now is make payment for A400M/AV8/LCS
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post Aug 27 2014, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(junchuan @ Aug 27 2014, 07:23 PM)
anybody here watches 军情解码 a military show from china  laugh.gif
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i watch a lot china military interview/documentary/etc.....
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post Aug 27 2014, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(junchuan @ Aug 27 2014, 07:23 PM)
anybody here watches 军情解码 a military show from china  laugh.gif
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i watch a lot china military interview/documentary/etc.....event almost all china military drama/movie

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post Aug 27 2014, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Aug 27 2014, 06:37 PM)
Yup 12 variants.
I prefer they go for.
denel turret, rws and ingwe first.
2nd batch developed scout variant, c2, anti-air and perhaps buy additional denel turret and rws variants.
3 batch mayb mortar and so on.
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i think impossible they make 12 variants at one time, also each variant also take time to R&D, there factory capability also no ability to make 12 variant at one shot.
so just like u said, they mostly will be product phase-by-phase for variant, first variant should be denel turret.

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post Aug 27 2014, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Aug 27 2014, 11:10 PM)
Memang impossible at one go.
which is y I disagree av8 project doing it in such manner.
it time consuming to develop 12 variants and expensive.
which is also the reason y deftech yet to begin initial production phased.
they spend quite lots of times contract negotiations as well.
iinm they should have already finalised all the contract for all variants and most of them under development status.

if they going for lesser variant let say start with development of 3 variants. Deftech should have already long begun their initial production might even begin deliver the av8.
It also lots cheaper since contract on development of 3 variants which means we can buy more units.
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need to see end of this year. this year merdaka dont know can see or not.


Deftech to deliver 12 AV8 to Malaysian military by year-end

DRB-HICOM Defence Technologies Sdn Bhd (DefTech), a defence arm of DRB-HICOM Bhd, targets to deliver 12 units of its 8x8 armoured-wheeled vehicles (AV8) to the Malaysian military by year-end.

Its chief executive officer, Amril Samsudin, said of the 257 vehicles scheduled to be delivered by 2018, two variants – IFV 25 and AFV 30 – out of 12 would start production in June.

- See more at: http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/busines...ary-by-year-end

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post Aug 28 2014, 01:25 AM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Aug 28 2014, 01:00 AM)
Hence I say "we do not have politician who is passionate and enthusiastic on national security and military"
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national security and military now days easy become politic weapon, more hard for gov make more budget also, u also know so many attack on social web on military, buy/no buy also get attack. specially many agains poster delivery via fb.....

event many politician or people say we no need army. i got see also some people said defense outsource to s'pore。

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post Aug 28 2014, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(wisdom_bin @ Aug 28 2014, 10:06 AM)
That is the thing. Government is willing to pay handsome amount for licensed ship though with small volume but not to these smaller crafts which we already have the capability to build and will directly help these small boatbuilders to expand.

Probably try to come up with new specification for small attack crafts with large volume purchase and allow several boat builders to propose and build the designs. That should be a good driver for these boatbuilders. Having the spec being made by Malaysian Navy, the same spec may be marketed for overseas market as well..
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local company usually wait gov to allocate the budget/money only will come out design.
Navy already said they want replace current RMN FAC.FMC, with new one from 60~80 meter ship. requirement ahould be around 12 ship
built FAC/FMC challenge for local company is how to Integrate surveillance Radar/navigation radar, fire contol radar/EOS FLIR System/combat management system, communication VHF,UHF, Datalink, satellite, sensor and antenna, missile, navy gun all together, not signal interfering each other and not generate electromagnetic (EM) issue to the ship. (this part maybe require oversea partner)

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post Aug 28 2014, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Aug 28 2014, 12:45 AM)
Actually during Mahathir times there were lots of thing left on wish list as well.
attack helicopters and aew is the best example.
We also almost get 18 hornets but thanks to the 97/98 economy crisis it didn't happen.
Anyway currently it is not like military is getting nothing ec725, a400m, gowind, av8 quite okay imo.
The main complaint is still on the budget as it seen rather flat.
Even after ld standoff and china knocking the doors the government still reluctant to increase significantly on the budget.
It is a shame we do not have politician who is passionate and enthusiastic on national security and military.
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For F/A18 think, i read a oversea article few year back, it said RMAF got re-start procurement for F18 on 2001~2002, but at that time relationship TM(near end as PM) with West country no so good (many blame), US tell to RMAF they can't promise get US congress approval to sell Malaysia 18 F18, event If successfully get US Congress Approval to sell F18 , US only willing sell AIM-9 to RMAF, AIM-120 will not sell to RMAF. they why TM angry then turn to Russia SU-30 with order 150pcs R-27ER.
(not sure correct or not)

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post Aug 28 2014, 07:54 PM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Aug 28 2014, 05:16 PM)
nope
the US offered us Super Hornet in 2000+
but the RMAF only wanted the hornet with AESA and with RMAF own terms
bullshit,
he was being sarcastic
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if like this kes, for MRCA us will agree own term ? and advance weapon/bomb we want ?
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QUOTE(FlameReaper @ Aug 28 2014, 05:58 PM)
Kejap corvette kejap frigate... I guess a new kind of hull classification should be in order whistling.gif
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is not a matter now what to call, Corvette/Frigate also can, US also call USS Independence as Littoral Combat Ship LCS only, Japanese LHD ship also call frigate only.

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post Aug 28 2014, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Aug 28 2014, 10:32 PM)
The quickest way msian can do it, just weaponize and mass produce the gagah samudera class
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gagah samudera class not stealth design,
Depend RMN stealth design is importance key or not,
but usually now stealth design is standard for new warship now.
but news early RMN also want use FAC as counter Pirates and smuggling,
than design more complex,to efficient counter Pirates and smuggling,
the ship need 2 RIBs to do boarding,insertion in Pirates and smuggling boats.
at the same time RIBs need hiding inside ship small FAC.

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post Aug 28 2014, 10:53 PM

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QUOTE(junchuan @ Aug 28 2014, 10:36 PM)
later delay 5 years kerana integration problems plus the ship damn slow max 20kn i think
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for engine should be no issue, yes more difficult in integration system。
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post Aug 28 2014, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(junchuan @ Aug 28 2014, 09:56 PM)
I think we should replace our perdana/handalan/jerung/laksamana class with one class of 60-70m missile boat(something like vietnam's tarantul corvettes) since all of them quite old and we need more missiles in the sea plus provide work for shipyards gud idea no?? biggrin.gif
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Already in plan, 4 pcs ASM at ship will ok.
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post Aug 28 2014, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Aug 28 2014, 10:53 PM)
By the way, are our Agustas night flight capable? Because I'm definitely hearing one or a light plane in semporna, at night.
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Yes,AW109 LOH, The helicopter’s integrated mission equipment package includes day/night and IFR avionics for single- or dual-pilot operations with a four-axis digital autopilot.

full news
http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/sin...inted-its-a109s
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post Aug 29 2014, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Aug 29 2014, 12:59 AM)
Mrt and hsr dia orang boleh keluar bond mah.
Masih boleh funding sampai billion of dollars.

Not sure on the procurement though.
but the government always have the last say.
Evaluation been done by the military personnel though.
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if more bond later goverment debt will increase ... that become politic weapon by politician ....
i hear many procurement BNM will look for cheap price.
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QUOTE(junchuan @ Aug 29 2014, 06:29 AM)
boleh share more abt the plan??
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no detail, just news Navy chief said RMN looking FAC/FMC replacement.
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QUOTE(edliew07 @ Aug 29 2014, 03:02 AM)
COSH conference in KLCC. One of the topic was on GST and the speaker started off by mentioning our financial status.
CMIIW this year defence budget RM16 billion and about 15% of it were meant for procurement of new hardware. Have been reading up a bit on what which is lacking in our armed forces and seriously we are not well cover by what we currently own. I do see a bigger defence budget for 2015 and since it's not an election year, more will go to the procurement side. What do you think?

RMK 11 start in 2016.
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not really, gov have big debt now, if not managed properly amount will increase than become politic issue. this year defense procurement budget just around USD 0.8 billion(RM 2.4 billion), mostly payment go to pay AV8, A400M, Gowind. hopefully this procurement budget at lease got usd 1.5 billion,
hopefully GST start 2015, from 2016 start with more tax collect by gov, procurement budget hopefully can reach at lease USD 3 billion.

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Coming soon, future for RMAF

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post Aug 29 2014, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(junchuan @ Aug 29 2014, 03:02 PM)
everybody also know we only got short range sam biggrin.gif
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got few lah, but most long range is Jernas 2000, 8km range.

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