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post Jul 29 2016, 02:00 AM

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QUOTE(ZZR-Pilot @ Jul 28 2016, 09:53 PM)
I have never soldered anything in my life... *BUT*... this seems like a good excuse to finally learn.

Actually, after noticing how China has opened up her industrial might to hobbyists, I started to take an interest in FPV flying. To get into FPV flying, first I have to learn to fly something... and the easiest things to fly seem to be multicopters with flight controllers. The FPV part must come much later after the obligatory first few crashes. tongue.gif

I hv always dreamed of flying RC aircraft since I was a schoolboy. 35 years later, here I am. biggrin.gif  I think it's called 'midlife crisis'...

The learning curve is *MASSIVE* - I can totally understand why some people would rather throw wads of cash buying an off-the-shelf drone. But, just like building PCs, climbing that steep learning curve is actually the fun part. So I spent the last month behaving like a sponge soaking up anything and everything I could find about building and flying quads.

Hopefully, next month I'll be ready to start selecting and buying the individual parts.

For now, I'm trying to unscare myself by learning how the APM 2.8 flight controller and the ArduPilot Mission Planner software work. KK2.1.5 costs US20, and I saw the APM2.8 going for almost the same amount of money (just US$26)... with the add-on GPS & compass only costing another US$14 to add the bells & whistles that'll save me a lot of newbie flying grief later.
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Hi ZZR-Pilot,

Glad you found your way into this new hobby.
It's never too late to start.

Learning curve is a lot, but I seen some new people who just came into the hobby now even more pro then me.
I think it's all about the time you spent and how 'addicted' you are.. which I am not really.

If you never soldered before, you need to get the right the right soldering lead. I made mistake by buying the cheap one I can find at local hardware shop and Mr DIY. Also clean your soldering tips often. But who am I to teach you, I too sucked haha.

Join this thread to talk to more experienced RC and DIY people, my sifu is there oso.
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2530564

And last but not least, I just bought this little bugger called the Tiny Whoop.
Strap on my goggle and I can FPV inside the house or literally anywhere I like.
Doesn't pose threat like the big quads.

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Some videos (not mine tho, house not clean, shy to post) for your pleasure.



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post Jul 29 2016, 09:41 AM

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QUOTE(ZZR-Pilot @ Jul 28 2016, 09:53 PM)
... first I have to learn to fly something...
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Usually for first time flyer, I would suggest get yourself a cheap quad/multi-rotor for training. There's a lot out there but I can only suggest Syma, specifically X8C or X8H_ variant, where the latter have altitude hold feature like the hobby grade multi-rotor have while the former is cheaper of the two. There's also WLtoys but I can't remember the model name. I did crash my X8C a lot but it is still holding up well.

It is up you anyway.

BTW, I'm still saving up for my 2k quad project. I'm not hardcore quad flyer but I like to take pictures/videos of the landscape & quad is just a tool that able me for bringing the camera up there.

These are what I'm eyeing at the moment - for the 2k quad project:-
https://averagedrone.my/gimbal-/67-tarot-go...ess-gimbal.html
https://averagedrone.my/flight-controller/1...multirotor.html
https://averagedrone.my/frame-/63-tarot-650...lti-frame-.html
https://averagedrone.my/motor-esc-and-prope...-esc-props.html

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post Jul 29 2016, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(neato4u @ Jul 29 2016, 03:00 AM)

If you never soldered before, you need to get the right the right soldering lead. I made mistake by buying the cheap one I can find at local hardware shop and Mr DIY. Also clean your soldering tips often. But who am I to teach you, I too sucked haha.
I learned that the dirt cheap soldering irons tend to conk out after a short while and they cannot provide enough wattage to heat up the larger wires and bullet connectors to help them soak up the solder properly, which leads to cold solders and quad failure later on.

Because I lack experience, I'm not sure what kind of wattage I should look for when shopping for soldering irons. What do you suggest?

Where did you buy your Tiny Whoop..?

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post Jul 29 2016, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(kizwan @ Jul 29 2016, 10:41 AM)
Usually for first time flyer, I would suggest get yourself a cheap quad/multi-rotor for training. There's a lot out there but I can only suggest Syma, specifically X8C or X8H_ variant, where the latter have altitude hold feature like the hobby grade multi-rotor have while the former is cheaper of the two. There's also WLtoys but I can't remember the model name. I did crash my X8C a lot but it is still holding up well.

It is up you anyway.

BTW, I'm still saving up for my 2k quad project. I'm not hardcore quad flyer but I like to take pictures/videos of the landscape & quad is just a tool that able me for bringing the camera up there.

These are what I'm eyeing at the moment - for the 2k quad project:-
https://averagedrone.my/gimbal-/67-tarot-go...ess-gimbal.html
https://averagedrone.my/flight-controller/1...multirotor.html
https://averagedrone.my/frame-/63-tarot-650...lti-frame-.html
https://averagedrone.my/motor-esc-and-prope...-esc-props.html
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I get that advice a lot. Looking around for cheap second hand toy grade quad at the moment to bang up and soak up my newbie abuse before I start building my first quad.

Nice project. You sure RM2k will be enough to cover your Tarot build..??

By the way, what radio do you guys suggest I look at? My budget is around RM550, I need decent build quality (not those clunky toy grade stuff with dip switches etc that break when a noob like me bangs it around), 1km range (so that I won't outgrow it when I go FPV next year), 2.4 ghz (so that it won't mess up future 5.8 ghz transmitters) and flight battery telemetry. Looking at the RadioLink AT10, but I wonder if there are better options that I don't know about.
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post Jul 29 2016, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(ZZR-Pilot @ Jul 29 2016, 10:24 AM)
I learned that the dirt cheap soldering irons tend to conk out after a short while and they cannot provide enough wattage to heat up the larger wires and bullet connectors to help them soak up the solder properly, which leads to cold solders and quad failure later on.

Because I lack experience, I'm not sure what kind of wattage I should look for when shopping for soldering irons. What do you suggest?

Where did you buy your Tiny Whoop..?
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A 40 - 60W soldering iron should do just fine for soldering connectors, wires, etc.

I also can't find one good soldering iron nowadays. I did have one but lost it. Since then I just use the cheap ones that I can find at hardware store. Right now I'm on the second soldering iron after the first one no longer heat up properly.

QUOTE(ZZR-Pilot @ Jul 29 2016, 10:36 AM)
I get that advice a lot. Looking around for cheap second hand toy grade quad at the moment to bang up and soak up my newbie abuse before I start building my first quad.

Nice project. You sure RM2k will be enough to cover your Tarot build..??

By the way, what radio do you guys suggest I look at? My budget is around RM550, I need decent build quality (not those clunky toy grade stuff with dip switches etc that break when a noob like me bangs it around), 1km range (so that I won't outgrow it when I go FPV next year), 2.4 ghz (so that it won't mess up future 5.8 ghz transmitters) and flight battery telemetry. Looking at the RadioLink AT10, but I wonder if there are better options that I don't know about.
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2k would be for the basic to get it going. Should be enough, unless my radio is not compatible. I don't really need FPV because I only fly the quad within line of sight. FPV is a nice addition though.

Regarding the radio, I'm also still figuring it out. I have Walkera Devo 7 7-channel radio (both gimbals already self-centering) & a 6-channel receiver with gyro but I'm not sure whether it is compatible with the flight controller I'm going to get. During my research I found one source said it should work. Many flight controller require PPM or DSM or Futaba S-BUS capable radio. Radio that within your budget would be Flysky i6 or Flysky FS-T6 but I don't know their reliability though. Both Radiolink AT9 & AT10 support S-Bus, if your flight controller support S-Bus.

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post Jul 30 2016, 04:02 AM

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QUOTE(ZZR-Pilot @ Jul 29 2016, 10:24 AM)
I learned that the dirt cheap soldering irons tend to conk out after a short while and they cannot provide enough wattage to heat up the larger wires and bullet connectors to help them soak up the solder properly, which leads to cold solders and quad failure later on.

Because I lack experience, I'm not sure what kind of wattage I should look for when shopping for soldering irons. What do you suggest?

Where did you buy your Tiny Whoop..?
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My sifu using cheapo soldering iron, he says no problem. I use Hakko 80W i got from Jalan Pasar.
I noticed when i use cheapo soldering lead.. KO. If I use the more expensive one.. the solder really beutiful wub.gif
So my advice, use cheap solder iron ok, but dun use cheap leads. Coming from someone who really sucked in soldering laugh.gif

Tiny whopp I got mine from hobbygeng.
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To all RC hobbies operates, we would like to announce that DJI 1st Authorised Reseller Shop in Malaysia will be opening soon!
Please follow us on Facebook for our latest news and share along this wonderful moment!

https://www.facebook.com/djistoremalaysia/

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post Aug 7 2016, 12:51 PM

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Either you're new or an experienced drone expert, there's an event coming up for all enthusiasts at Petrosains this coming Thursday from 6.30pm onwards. Free entrance. Pick up your tickets at http://drone-101.peatix.com

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post Nov 10 2016, 07:39 AM

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http://www.themalaymailonline.com/malaysia...without-permits

need permit d?

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post Nov 11 2016, 03:12 AM

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QUOTE(HotzKiss @ Nov 10 2016, 07:39 AM)
Hot topic for now.
But no - they are still drafting.
Permit only required for heavy and or commercial drones (RC) for now.
Mini quads and phantoms can still fly as usual, just avoid non flying zones.

Of course, things may get updated pretty fast these days.
If others know of any updates that negates this, please share.

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Anyone from Butterworth? Would need seek help to shoot one event.
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QUOTE(neato4u @ May 25 2014, 09:48 PM)
lol, get the phantom. And meet up with some RC people, you will forget about your surveillance and remember the fun smile.gif
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mind explaining the "fun" part bro?


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post May 14 2017, 12:51 AM

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QUOTE(munky @ May 12 2017, 12:13 PM)
mind explaining the "fun" part bro?
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The hobby is not all about flying alone. You get to meet new people, learn new things, and of course at the same time operate your RC aircraft within a safe radius. For me that is fun (not go spying on neighbours).

While there are people who like to go solo, I'd say fly with groups until you really get the hang of it. It will also prevent you from doing silly things and endangering others (and the hobby).
Learn to limit yourselves. These hobby items are not toy-grade - there are some risks to it. And old enthusiasts always remind newbies to fly safe and responsible.
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QUOTE(neato4u @ May 14 2017, 01:51 AM)
The hobby is not all about flying alone. You get to meet new people, learn new things, and of course at the same time operate your RC aircraft within a safe radius. For me that is fun (not go spying on neighbours).

While there are people who like to go solo, I'd say fly with groups until you really get the hang of it. It will also prevent you from doing silly things and endangering others (and the hobby).
Learn to limit yourselves. These hobby items are not toy-grade - there are some risks to it. And old enthusiasts always remind newbies to fly safe and responsible.
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is very true. i had have been crashing my drone over here and there. this are my third quadcopter within in a month, luckily will be able to have fix myself today. thou of getting a TOVSTO AEGEAN PRO GPS DRONE. do you have any better advice? thanks.
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QUOTE(albertteh @ May 30 2017, 01:51 AM)
is very true. i had have been crashing my drone over here and there. this are my third quadcopter within in a month, luckily will be able to have fix myself today. thou of getting a  TOVSTO AEGEAN PRO GPS DRONE. do you have any better advice? thanks.
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Why not just get a Mavic?
Or something from DJI.

Not a pro DJI here, but I found if you use common stuff, you will get a lot of community support.
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QUOTE(neato4u @ May 30 2017, 02:57 AM)
Why not just get a Mavic?
Or something from DJI.

Not a pro DJI here, but I found if you use common stuff, you will get a lot of community support.
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The new Spark is also very cool! thumbup.gif
DJI SPARK wub.gif
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Any shopping links for beginner drones ? Lazada?

Saw some cheapo mini ones on demo at sg wang, petaling st and pasar seni...rm80.... Worth it?

Can fly very straight and stable...can hover also

Its the small white box with drone S49 label

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Saw some dji youtubes...very impressive.

My first doubt as noob is the battery life....spark model is about 15mins flight time.....other pro ones are like 30mins

Seems too short for enjoyment....require multiple battery packs maybe


QUOTE(DJI Store Malaysia @ Jul 31 2016, 09:29 PM)
To all RC hobbies operates, we would like to announce that DJI 1st Authorised Reseller Shop in Malaysia will be opening soon!
Please follow us on Facebook for our latest news and share along this wonderful moment!

https://www.facebook.com/djistoremalaysia/

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I'm looking learn how to fly a drone/multirotor but not willing to spend thousands.

Any recommendation Yg Beratus je?

Thanks
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QUOTE(gaijin @ May 30 2017, 09:54 AM)
Saw some dji youtubes...very impressive.

My first doubt as noob is the battery life....spark model is about 15mins flight time.....other pro ones are like 30mins

Seems too short for enjoyment....require multiple battery packs maybe
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Actually battery life is considered 'great' for multirotors (drones) nowdays compared to several years ago when the average flight time of a quadcopter is around 5 minutes or so.

So when people said 15 mins is short.. well.. whistling.gif


bakry Go here - https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2530564 (RC Flying Models V4)- a lot of sifu's inside can ask around.

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