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post Jun 26 2016, 06:45 AM

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QUOTE(neato4u @ Jun 25 2016, 12:34 AM)
But if you are replacing the flight controller (with GPS), then the motors (which I believe you will eventually replace the props and ESCs as well) - then would that be near to a complete built already minus the actual quadcopter frame?
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It will be a complete build. The Syma frame is not bad.


Anyway, after some research, I decided to get these:-
1) https://averagedrone.my/flight-controller/1...multirotor.html
2) https://averagedrone.my/motor-esc-and-prope...-esc-props.html
3) https://averagedrone.my/gimbal-/67-tarot-go...ess-gimbal.html
4) https://averagedrone.my/frame-/63-tarot-650...lti-frame-.html


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post Jun 30 2016, 02:01 AM

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This is my conclusion regarding using SJCAM/GOPRO clone (or not) camera on X8C. Tested with the waterproof casing.
  • It does affect lifting performance with the added weight but overall X8C can handle it.
  • I recommend higher capacity lipo battery because when the battery almost run out of power, even before the low battery warning indicator blinking, it will lose altitude. I have not try flying higher (watch my videos to know how high I fly my quad) but so far when this happened I still be able to control the descend.
  • The clone camera is inexpensive but it is still 200 of your hard-earned money. So the waterproof casing do protect the camera especially the lens from shatter to pieces when crash landing.

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QUOTE(olbond @ Jun 29 2016, 06:58 PM)
Thanks a lot, I'll check! No, I don't have experience  in flying rc helicopter and/or quad. I'll check Syma for sure!
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Get Syma for training & when you good at it, you can get proper hobby grade quadcopter for your needs. At least when you crashed Syma quad, you will not loose a lot.

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post Jul 3 2016, 12:20 PM

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Hello guys. Im ram. Been interested in quadcopters/drones lately. But still not too sure on what exactly to buy. Im kinda new to this hobby, so advice and suggestions is very much appreciated.

First off, i have a cheap ass quad i bought last year. Some predator quad which looks like a jet. Did not come with a manual. So im still figuring out the controls.

Im looking to get a quad with the features listed below.

1) Easy to operate.
2) Good range
3) Flight time at least 15mins beyond
4) FPV camera
5) GPS
6) Can use android to control/ take pics.
7) Flight modes - flip, return to home, hover, etc

* I know the best is to DIY, but my knowledge with this is too little as of now.

Below are a few models that i've been looking into. If anyone has any infor/review on these models, kindly let me know.

1) Eachine Blade 185 RTF

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2) Eachine Racer 250 RTF

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3) Hubsan H501s FPV

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4) Walkera Runner Advance gps 250

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I think the Hubsan is amazing as its all-in-all package for a beginner. My worries are that the parts are probably not replaceable? And i cant upgrade the battery if needed.


As for Eachine/ walkera - these are apparently racer drone. Do they come with beginner settings/speed settings so that its easier for me to learn the controls?
And if i want to use my android to control these, how can i do so?

And regarding the li-po battery. Most of the racer drone comes with 1500mah 3s batts. Can i just upgrade them to say 2500mah? Is this possible?


Sorry for the long post and thank you in advance for the advice.

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post Jul 3 2016, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(guyderam @ Jul 3 2016, 12:20 PM)
Hello guys. Im ram. Been interested in quadcopters/drones lately. But still not too sure on what exactly to buy. Im kinda new to this hobby, so advice and suggestions is very much appreciated.

First off, i have a cheap ass quad i bought last year. Some predator quad which looks like a jet. Did not come with a manual. So im still figuring out the controls.

Im looking to get a quad with the features listed below.

1) Easy to operate.
2) Good range
3) Flight time at least 15mins beyond
4) FPV camera
5) GPS
6) Can use android to control/ take pics.
7) Flight modes - flip, return to home, hover, etc

* I know the best is to DIY, but my knowledge with this is too little as of now.

Below are a few models that i've been looking into. If anyone has any infor/review on these models, kindly let me know.

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I think the Hubsan is amazing as its all-in-all package for a beginner. My worries are that the parts are probably not replaceable? And i cant upgrade the battery if needed.
As for Eachine/ walkera - these are apparently racer drone. Do they come with beginner settings/speed settings so that its easier for me to learn the controls?
And if i want to use my android to control these, how can i do so?

And regarding the li-po battery. Most of the racer drone comes with 1500mah 3s batts. Can i just upgrade them to say 2500mah? Is this possible?
Sorry for the long post and thank you in advance for the advice.
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The best way is search these quad at youtube & watch the videos. You will be able to learn pros & cons of these quads. This will help you choose which one you want to get.

The parts usually replaceable. IMO, you should developed your skill before jumping to hobby grade quads. Even though these quads have advanced features, you still can crash & destroy them if you don't have experience & skills. Better get cheaper quads & practice with them. Developed your skills first.

Yes, you can replace & upgrade the lipo battery.

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post Jul 3 2016, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(kizwan @ Jul 3 2016, 03:18 PM)
The best way is search these quad at youtube & watch the videos. You will be able to learn pros & cons of these quads. This will help you choose which one you want to get.

The parts usually replaceable. IMO, you should developed your skill before jumping to hobby grade quads. Even though these quads have advanced features, you still can crash & destroy them if you don't have experience & skills. Better get cheaper quads & practice with them. Developed your skills first.

Yes, you can replace & upgrade the lipo battery.
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Than you very much.. And have you bought stuff from banggood? Will they ship to malaysia?
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post Jul 3 2016, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(guyderam @ Jul 3 2016, 04:20 PM)
Than you very much.. And have you bought stuff from banggood? Will they ship to malaysia?
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No, I like to buy from local online store (#supportLHS) but banggood do ship to Malaysia, I checked it just now. In case you're wondering about the shipping cost, I have bought computer stuff from Taiwan, US & EU country but I usually use the most fastest shipping which is expensive. Cheaper or free shipping may take from a couple of weeks to a month.
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post Jul 3 2016, 06:25 PM

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Drones are for people who have lots of money and no idea what to do with it.............
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post Jul 7 2016, 07:47 PM

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Anybody is interested in getting a Mi drone at RM2,199?
Its official release is coming soon this month at China XiaoMi.

Deposit 50%
COD Available in KL
Limited to 10 units order

Anybody interested? Warranty 1 year

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QUOTE(Cloud2322 @ Jul 7 2016, 07:47 PM)
Anybody is interested in getting a Mi drone at RM2,199?
Its official release is coming soon this month at China XiaoMi.

Deposit 50%
COD Available in KL
Limited to 10 units order

Anybody interested? Warranty 1 year

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looks like between yuneec camera+blade chroma+dji crossbreed
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post Jul 14 2016, 03:27 AM

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QUOTE(neato4u @ Jun 14 2016, 11:30 PM)
Syok worrr..
Just see my excited fingers.. haha

I hope so too, will post on FB page if we're flying.
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hahaha my first time also having this finger symptom lol rclxms.gif
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post Jul 14 2016, 03:49 AM

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QUOTE(johnlth93 @ Jul 14 2016, 03:27 AM)
hahaha my first time also having this finger symptom lol  rclxms.gif
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LOL, i still have it sometimes. Lack of flying time I guess..

Anyway, short flight after raya..


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QUOTE(neato4u @ Jul 14 2016, 03:49 AM)
LOL, i still have it sometimes. Lack of flying time I guess..

Anyway, short flight after raya..


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Sometimes yeah here I also have it ... Don't have much time and places to fly anyway T.T
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Here is my short review on the Lishitoy L6055 2in1 drone/rc car. Video review is by bang good.com





Description:
Item NO.:Lishitoys L6055
Item Name:Lishitoys L6055 Land/Sky 2 in 1 High Hold Mode 360 Degree Rolling 2.4G 4CH 6-Axis RC Quadcopter RTF
Frequency: 2.4GHz
Channel: 4CH
Motor Type: 8520
Mode: Flying mode / Car mode
Working Time: 9 minutes for fly, 15 minutes for drive
Control Distance: About 100 meters (Indoor and outdoor)
Charging Time: About 60-90 minutes
Battery For Quadcopter: 3.7V 900mAh LiPo Battery (included)
Battery For Transmitter: 4x AA Battery(not included )
Color: White, Black
Product size: 23 x 20x 8cm (L x W x H)


Function: 360°3D rolling action / up/ down/ left/ right/ forward / backward / side flying / hover /Four Direction Control on the ground

Features:
High hold mode:
With high density air pressure sensor which can precisely hold the height.
6 axis gyro:
Strong stability, stronger wind resistance, easier to control.
360 degrees roll:
Professional cool and exquisite flight action.
Four-wheel independent drive:
Have off-road capability, the car can achieve rolling and Facade drive freely .


I bought this drone online for rm 170. Which was quite a bargain. I didn't come with the camera though.

Bear in mind, this is my first drone and im very much impressed with it. Its a beauty and built quality is good.
Flying this drone was quite straightforward. With the low speed its easy for a beginner to practice flying a drone. As far as im concerned, its speed is adequate for a beginner's drone.

The supplied battery is a 900maH lipo pack. I managed to stuff in a 1200mah lipo pack in the battery compartment. The 1200mah lipo pack was slightly shorter but 2-3mm broader as compared to the supplied pack.

But with few twists and minimal pushing, the battery slide in pretty well. And it works perfectly well. I havent timed my flights yet but i will soon. With the extra 300mah im expecting another 2-3 minutes of flight time maybe.

The canopy of the drone is quite spacious inside. I believe we should be able to fit it a larger capacity battery into the drone with few minor mods. But the weight of a larger capacity battery may hinder its flight time. Not too sure about this but i might try it some time soon.

As for the flying of the drone:

Its quite straightforward to fly it. A quick glaze thru the supplied manual and you are ready to operate this beauty. Maneuvering it isint that difficult and the transmitter is quite responsive.

Comes with 2 speeds. At high speed the drone goes fast enough but still responds to the transmitter well. This is good for beginner who wants to learn the basics of flying a drone.

It comes with built it Altitude hold which is not so bad, but the drone tends to hover up and down quite a bit so the safe height would prolly be 2meters. Otherwise is very much stable

Its extremely easy to perform flips with this. Just hold on to the top right button and slide the right hand joystick to which ever direction of interest and watch it flip.

###But ensure the drone is atleast 3m off the ground before performing a flip as the drone will drop almost 1meter after the flip###

The blue led lights are nothing but beauty without functionality. The do look cool. With the led the drone looks like some alien scifi bug.

Rc Car:

This is one amazing rc car. Super fast and literally a bulldozer. Controlling it is easy. I took about 7-8 minutes to change the props to the wheels. On high speed more the car looks like its on steroids. I've so far tested it indoors only. Will be doing outdoors soon.

My final verdict:

For the price you pay, this is one amazing decent quality 2 in 1 drone/rc car. Yet again these Chinese manufacturers have proven that cheap stuff can be off good quality as well.

With altitude hold/gyro axis/ drone to rc car in less than 10 minutes/ 2 speed mode and not to forget wifi hd camera capabilities -------> this drone is worth the money spent.

I will be getting the Hubsan h501s x4 soon though. Have my eye on it for quite sometime now..

;-)


My question: The supplied lipo is a 3.7v pack. Is it possible to upgrade to a 7.4 v lipo pack?


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post Jul 26 2016, 12:35 PM

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Hello all,

I'm thinking to get into RC drones. Have started saving bit by bit, so maybe I'll get something for my birthday in Jan.

Being someone who loves building PC rigs.... I'm tempted to climb the steep learning curve to build a 450-sized drone using say an F450 an S500 frame. I like the idea of picking out my own parts and building, because when I crash it I will know exactly how to repair the damn thing. I will also get to choose my own proper hobby-grade radio as opposed to being stuck with flimsy toy-like transmitters that come with RTF drones.

On the other hand, should I take the easy way out and get something with decent 5.8ghz FPV, easy to fly with all those idiot-proof GPS hold & RTH functions like the Hubsan X4 Pro... all for the same (maybe even less) money than a kit/scratch-build F450/S500?


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QUOTE(ZZR-Pilot @ Jul 26 2016, 12:35 PM)
Hello all,

I'm thinking to get into RC drones. Have started saving bit by bit, so maybe I'll get something for my birthday in Jan.

Being someone who loves building PC rigs.... I'm tempted to climb the steep learning curve to build a 450-sized drone using say an F450 an S500 frame. I like the idea of picking out my own parts and building, because when I crash it I will know exactly how to repair the damn thing. I will also get to choose my own proper hobby-grade radio as opposed to being stuck with flimsy toy-like transmitters that come with RTF drones.

On the other hand, should I take the easy way out and get something with decent 5.8ghz FPV, easy to fly with all those idiot-proof GPS hold & RTH functions like the Hubsan X4 Pro... all for the same (maybe even less) money than a kit/scratch-build F450/S500?
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IMO, it's up to you. Some people find it very satisfying when building it yourself. If building yourself, you can get flight controller that have altitude hold, gps hold, return-to-home, etc function. So in the end it'll have same functions as RTF version.
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QUOTE(kizwan @ Jul 26 2016, 06:47 PM)
IMO, it's up to you. Some people find it very satisfying when building it yourself. If building yourself, you can get flight controller that have altitude hold, gps hold, return-to-home, etc function. So in the end it'll have same functions as RTF version.
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Right now, the cheapest and most idiot-proof flight controller I have seen is the KK 2.1.5 because you don't even have to plug it into a PC to set it up. I'm tempted to go with this, but because it is very basic it has no bells and whistles like GPS hold, RTH, headless mode etc. Bummer.

APM is the next step up, but the prospect of having to program it via software somewhat terrifies me.



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Dah lama tak main, since charger rosak lol. Hopefully batery masih ok.
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post Jul 27 2016, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(ZZR-Pilot @ Jul 27 2016, 10:40 AM)
Right now, the cheapest and most idiot-proof flight controller I have seen is the KK 2.1.5 because you don't even have to plug it into a PC to set it up. I'm tempted to go with this, but because it is very basic it has no bells and whistles like GPS hold,  RTH, headless mode etc. Bummer.

APM is the next step up, but the prospect of having to program it via software somewhat terrifies me.
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Check out TAROT ZYX-M flight controller & DJI Naza-M Lite flight controller. These have all the bells and whistles you're looking for & they doesn't cost you much.
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QUOTE(ZZR-Pilot @ Jul 27 2016, 10:40 AM)
Right now, the cheapest and most idiot-proof flight controller I have seen is the KK 2.1.5 because you don't even have to plug it into a PC to set it up. I'm tempted to go with this, but because it is very basic it has no bells and whistles like GPS hold,  RTH, headless mode etc. Bummer.

APM is the next step up, but the prospect of having to program it via software somewhat terrifies me.
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That's right, KK2 is super simple and super easy to set up.
A lot of tutorials on youtube as well.
Go for DIY if you aren't afraid of soldering wires brows.gif

I started off with a DJI450 and Naza.
Fly first in auto level mode until you have the hang of it.
Then when you are ready, switch to acro / rate / manual mode and you will love it.

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QUOTE(neato4u @ Jul 28 2016, 01:18 AM)
That's right, KK2 is super simple and super easy to set up.
A lot of tutorials on youtube as well.
Go for DIY if you aren't afraid of soldering wires  brows.gif

I started off with a DJI450 and Naza.
Fly first in auto level mode until you have the hang of it.
Then when you are ready, switch to acro / rate / manual mode and you will love it.
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I have never soldered anything in my life... *BUT*... this seems like a good excuse to finally learn.

Actually, after noticing how China has opened up her industrial might to hobbyists, I started to take an interest in FPV flying. To get into FPV flying, first I have to learn to fly something... and the easiest things to fly seem to be multicopters with flight controllers. The FPV part must come much later after the obligatory first few crashes. tongue.gif

I hv always dreamed of flying RC aircraft since I was a schoolboy. 35 years later, here I am. biggrin.gif I think it's called 'midlife crisis'...

The learning curve is *MASSIVE* - I can totally understand why some people would rather throw wads of cash buying an off-the-shelf drone. But, just like building PCs, climbing that steep learning curve is actually the fun part. So I spent the last month behaving like a sponge soaking up anything and everything I could find about building and flying quads.

Hopefully, next month I'll be ready to start selecting and buying the individual parts.

For now, I'm trying to unscare myself by learning how the APM 2.8 flight controller and the ArduPilot Mission Planner software work. KK2.1.5 costs US20, and I saw the APM2.8 going for almost the same amount of money (just US$26)... with the add-on GPS & compass only costing another US$14 to add the bells & whistles that'll save me a lot of newbie flying grief later.

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