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 LYN Kancil's Owner Club a.k.a SLK V4, New home for our sweet little kancil

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davidke20
post Aug 27 2014, 08:22 PM

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QUOTE(acap.acap @ Aug 27 2014, 06:12 PM)
oh, okay then . i'll wait for the address and try check it out later .

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Jalan Dengkil Banting, next to posofiz, adjacent to masjid. H&K is the name, next to used car LS Gan Enterprise.

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QUOTE(dexmonata @ Aug 27 2014, 07:15 PM)
Anyone here can suggest aftermarket spring that almost same comfort as stock but provide btter handling...i didnt care much about car height..as long as it comfort and handle better, then should be good..
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Spring is always the last resolution in my car mods dictionary. I dunno huai the entire mod industry all kinda funny philosophy came up, huat progressib spling lar, spork spling lar, macam² ada. In the end the car bounce like apollo 13 wanna fly to moon lidet doh.gif

If you're really NOT looking for looks, just wanna slightly reduce the bounce rate so you can cup konar with less roll, for ganjil kinda soft spling put spling buffer enuf jor. The ride still comfy and u will feel imprubmen. Berry cheap and affordable DIY mod.

If you don't mind harder mod, then send the dampers for injection. Reoil the dampers with higher viscosity oil. This, doesn't make your car bounce like 0 gravity. It slower down the dampening rate. You'll feel more sensation from the road feedback. You'll feel the car slightly harsher, but not to the extend every speed bump you'll have to brake until white smoke come out baru can clear. Reason being, better oil inside the damper only help to SLOW DOWN the suspension movement. Whereas, harder spring doesn't, it increase the bounce rate.

Last, if those are not what you're looking for. Tyre is the next best thing to go. Most of the time when people are complaining bad handling on stock form(given Ganjil already got a huge ass front anti roll bar), other than suspension will compress, tyre is the thing that affect handling the most. Choose those sporty K tyres. I personally use Achilles ATR K-Sport 165/55R14 72V. Extremely sticky and grounded(wet traction kinda suck though)
davidke20
post Aug 27 2014, 09:15 PM

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QUOTE(acap.acap @ Aug 27 2014, 08:38 PM)
noted that . Will check it out. Thanks for the address .
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Pos+Malay...3faa46c519d6c81
Speaking bout spring .

For example if i change to sport spring, but still use stock absorber, does it affect anything ?
Just wan survey first before i do anything  hmm.gif
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That's what people usually do anyways whistling.gif Hard spring on stock damper, it defeat the purpose of the DAMPENING where the damper supposed to ABSORB shocks(*hence it's known as shock absorber locally). I still can't brain how can people go and mod their spring and leave the shocks stock yawn.gif It's like I don't care whether the car will fly to moon, as long as I get the cheap mod done brows.gif For normal idiots that use lowering sport springs with stock damper, usually the damper will wear off much faster since the shocks is always running on high bounce rate(short/hard springs), the oil seal gets wear off very much faster.

Reason why I always propose to upgrade damper in the 1st place is simple. Have u use retractable ball pen?
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So you dismantled it, put your thumb on the spring, press it down and quickly release. What does it do? Fly up. The harder the spring is, the harder you need to press down, the reaction of it fly higher is even more severe. The same goes to the car, the harder the spring goes, the more BOUNCE you get.

Now put it into a different situation. If you have the pen core stick stuff at the middle of the spring. You try to press the spring, but you can't because you hit the pen itself. Regardless how hard you press or how fast you release, does the spring BOUNCE or not? brows.gif I leave you think about the logic lar. If u're talking about lowering the car for the LOOK, then dont bother. Huateber spling jiu wang oso doesn't matter as long its low whistling.gif
davidke20
post Aug 27 2014, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(acap.acap @ Aug 27 2014, 10:12 PM)
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alright, i can see that  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif

thanks for the explanation  smile.gif

i've search few set such as kayaba new sr absorber and rsr spring or the proride set(sport absorber+spring)
im not sure which one good enough

Or maybe i just keep it stock 

one more thing, the temperature reading, izit normal for kancil(see spoiler) ?  hmm.gif

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Mine last time after thermostat opened, the needle point slightly below 1/2. If drive 140kph over 10 mins, needle point at OVERHEAT! doh.gif After sent for radiator flush, remove thermostat jor, yes it looks like yours. Always at the bottom there yawn.gif So I guess either your indicator rosak? Or the sensor rosak? Or the car perfectly normal, just the magician sudah buang lu mia thermostat like mine doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
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post Aug 27 2014, 11:45 PM

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TS budakhops tumpang tambah member.

1994 Ganjil 660 MT saham tulang warna berak

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post Aug 27 2014, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 27 2014, 11:47 PM)
eh seriously got a kancil? lol
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Do I need to lipot how many kars I got? whistling.gif Nextaim bling to trekdei, jiu gaise prepare kain for me whistling.gif
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post Aug 28 2014, 09:05 AM

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QUOTE(acap.acap @ Aug 28 2014, 08:51 AM)
hmm, interesting . i scared a bit earlier, tot hav problem .  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
tried speeding oso, around 150kmh for 10-15 minutes, the needle still like that
so far so good, nth wrong with the car just the cv joint i guess .
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U need to be sure there's no physical overheating lor. The problem is, if thermostat removed, cold start very harsh. Provided my carburetor rosak abit, after start car almost kenot touch anything or the engine stalled ady then hailut.com.my. The next kick start has to be atleast 1 minute hard crank doh.gif

Reason I ask u to be sure, doing 150 for 10~15mins the needle still like that how do you know it's not physically overheating leh? If the needle rosak, kena stuck there how to move leh even if overheating? And if you have checked radiator no karat, sensor no rosak, if unplug the ground wire on sensor the needle will go all the way to maximum, that means no problem lor. So, the next best thing u can do is plonk back the thermostat. Most magician will say you cigaoxin put back a troublemaker. The truth is, with a thermostat your car will always run on OPTIMUM temperature. Not to mention exhaust that created from a proper combustion is cleaner, a complete combustion will generate optimum power output, at the same time save fuel.

CV joint, might not need to go all the way to Dengkil just to do that. Can go find my sepepatchop fella, belakang his shop is bawah pokok workshop. U get to buy part at sepepatchop price, at the same time enjoy bawah pokok kind of service and labor caj.

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https://www.google.com/maps/place/Chan+Huat...1d3829dca45bdc6

Lokasi diantara Jalan Datuk Haji Eusoff & Jalan Lumut. Pomen kat belakang TOM'S(2nd shop before end of the row). The location I shared is CHAN HUAT, just next few doors aways from TOM'S. Pomen ade kat belakang kedai TOM'S

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post Aug 28 2014, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(2JayZ @ Aug 28 2014, 08:55 AM)
Sifu davidke20 has explained everything. Thanks for his time to come over here to share his knowledge and experience.  notworthy.gif  thumbup.gif
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I got Ganjil oso geh sleep.gif seldom lurk here jek sleep.gif
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post Aug 28 2014, 10:11 AM

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QUOTE(g3n0c|d3 @ Aug 28 2014, 09:22 AM)
About ther termostat, i dunnue also why some foreman like to thow those things.
As for the shock absorber, better change the whole set lah. My ride is also like kuda one but if at highway speeding best wooo. Cornering also gooding. The thing i change for my setup was just the front spring, standard spring they give me is 4k, i change to 6k to stiffen it a bit.
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Both thermostat & spring setup is CONSUMER decision. Already become a trend, hence magician ady got so used to it and make it standard practice.

1) Thermostat originally designed to slot between main water channel. It's a bypass valve to be exact. When waterpump housing temperature is low, the entire radiator water channel will be totally blocked by the valve. Hence, engine does not get extra coolant from the radiator and keep recycling water already INSIDE the engine, so the engine can quickly gets heat up to normal working temperature. As and when temperature achieved, thermostat will automatically open the valve, water get to exit to radiator, and your radiator fan automatically switch on to cool down the already heated up water. Now why does magician always like to throw it away. This has to be every 1/2 ~ 1 year time, radiator coolant will get deteriorate its performance. Fluid inside radiator on/off hot/cold, hence become acidic. When water acid high, means steel get rusty fast. When thermostat gets rusty, it jam, kenot fully open sleep.gif Kenot fully open, water hard to flow to radiator how to cool down? Hence the car ma veli easy overheat jor lor. When magician ask customer wanna change coolant mou? Customer say, change apelanjiao la, put paip water ma gao dim lor sleep.gif When thermostat rusted, magician say RM68 to change, customer say throw away ma even better? Colder mar! So now, regardless who go look for magician with overheating issue, the 1st thing they do is ALWAYS throw away the thermostat. Think about it lar, engine maker all sohigh go do extra work meh? Thermostat exist for a reason 1. Just that consumer any ordinary ah beng take short cut wanna save the trouble to menten less 1 thing nia yawn.gif

2) As for the spring, yes it is also due to consumer. Those days when my unker work on my grandfather's kar, the esoba all can be refurbrish geh. Unker will unlock the shutter, pull the esoba shaft out. Drain all fluid inside the cylinder. Remove old rubber seal, replace with new seal. Plonk back fresh gear oil into the cylinder, push the seal and shaft back into the cylinder, lock the shutter. Wah! Feels like new car jor. Then all 13 brothers & sister hop on the car and test drive. No sagat, no sag behind. Where got hear people change spring geh? Again, when u ask pipu reoil your esoba, it cost RM75/piece. Amount of time taken is atleast 1/2 day, imagine has to dismantle every single thing just to get the new oil in. 4pieces ady RM300, and kenot guarantee oil leak and how long the esoba can tahan. Imagine lar, after reoil ady, u feel the rides exactly the same like before, feels like using stock esoba. Who wanto pay RM300 for the feel of exactly the same like didn't do anything before? So here comes the spring poison. 1 set sport lowering spring baru berapa? RM250. Upah berapa? RM40 siap pasang. Time taken? Siap dalam 1 jam. After effect? Huah! Manyak siok itu kete! So steady kat haiwei(sudah lowered, less air flow interference mana boley not steady). Konar pon sedap? Does it really sedap? Ofcoz lor, sudah bayar, buntut sakit pon kena mau RASA sedap yawn.gif

I'm not saying u r wrong. Hard spring got it's purpose, especially talking about wanna retain the car on the ground. With harder spring, no doubt you'll feel more steady and less roll during konar. It's true because the spring now need heavier press to compress it, hence is less sampan during konar. The problem is, when your konaring speed managed to compress the spring. HOHOHO.... U hop all the way + understeer or worst...
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QUOTE(acap.acap @ Aug 28 2014, 09:24 AM)
im not sure about physical overheating, but the car feel like normal after i drove like that . Might as well check it to avoid something happen later on .
my car very easy to start even with cold start .
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Kaburetor rosak baru will have harsh cold start. Means ur kaburetor normal lor sleep.gif bugger put salt on my luka sleep.gif Reminds me when new detaim very smooth geh. 1 kick sudah start, immediately can drive ady. Now ar, need to wait atleast 30seconds before plonk 1st gear start move. Otherwise, sure stall doh.gif
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post Aug 28 2014, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(2JayZ @ Aug 28 2014, 10:21 AM)
Shit, means mine rosak? Morning cold start sure 1st start cant really start, will stall at 1st crank. 2nd crank sometimes will be okay but step on the gas to let it idle without too much vibration only.

But when driving time engine really smooth and responsive. Even though already adjusted the carb.
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Rosak is, when cold start u try step on gas pedal, engine will stal sleep.gif Ur case, got few possibilities lar

1) Air filter dirty
2) Fuel filter dirty
3) Totobodi butterfly valve dirty

Moreover, when really rosaked-rosak, very hard to get idling on traffic jam. Its like everytime when u step on clutch pedal the car will stall sleep.gif
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QUOTE(2JayZ @ Aug 28 2014, 11:06 AM)
Air Filter - Clean
Fuel Filter - replaced when 1st bought the car, send to mech.
TotoBodi Butterfly - Might need to try clean again then. Since driving smooth but only cold start prob.

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Mine A/T 660cc  wub.gif
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If not, then sepakberak, sepakcoil, berak wayar
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post Aug 28 2014, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(2JayZ @ Aug 28 2014, 11:21 AM)
nod.gif  K noted. sepakcoil not sure change or not but sepakberak and sepakberak cable changed.
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If can hor, go chopshop find those freshly exiden ganjil, look for their original belak kaler berak kabel. Other type aftermarket mat7 hai powah kabel all no need can throw away. If ori stok kabel, pls keep. If got 2 set, keep 1 more set for me. Tengkiu icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(g3n0c|d3 @ Aug 28 2014, 11:45 AM)
hurm.. i guess its time to clean my TB.... i havent done that for quite sometimes...

kancil ori cable ah? let me see if i can wank some on the deserted kancil at my house...
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drool.gif Karburetor 1 set, ignition coil 1 set, gebox klo ade pon simpan 1 set plis drool.gif
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post Aug 28 2014, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(DaBestOne @ Aug 28 2014, 11:54 AM)
Sometimes engine oil too thick, when engine oil is cold its thicker once warm up already no problem  smile.gif
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post Aug 28 2014, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(dexmonata @ Aug 28 2014, 01:34 PM)
Actually my car currently using adjustable sspension...last time running on weekend only..no problem...but now i plan to use it everyday..commute to workplace..thats y i plan to make it comfort again but at the same time better hndling than stock suspension..

I did try armedues spring last time..very good in term of comfort and handling...ride height slightly lower..but now that supplier didnt bring anymore for kancil...
Thats y i try to find good spring here...for abs..maybe i will use proride...but i know the proride spring is not comfort because friend of mine using it...
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Might as well put a soft 4k spring gao dim. Set height to ngam² level the front driveshaft and rear lower arm. If it's softhard ejestable, with the LEVEL lower arm, regardless soft/hard u tune there's a travel limit for dampening jor, so won't be too comfort even u set to full soft at that height. Gao dim. Why sakit kelapa think so much whistling.gif Besides, usually ejestebel saspensi need mentenans, sudah hantar pi servis belom? Tell the tauke do servis u want soft/komfet more than handling, hell he'll know what oil to put in for your during servis brows.gif

p/s: comes to think of it, if u changed means the ejestabel will pull out lar brows.gif I come offer u a prx when u cabut? brows.gif

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post Aug 28 2014, 05:51 PM

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QUOTE(2JayZ @ Aug 28 2014, 05:31 PM)
I dunno how, lets do it together, saw one red one in USJ LOL!
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Gebox, front right fender, kaburetor plis. drool.gif Berak wayar since oni got 1 set, jiu can keep it. I was just asking for spare nia nod.gif
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post Aug 29 2014, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(2JayZ @ Aug 29 2014, 09:24 AM)
Got more than 1 kancil abandon. We call tow trucks come not sure they will toll or not  hmm.gif
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Karma bro. 1 day jiu go tow other pipu's kar go cabutz barang, 1 day jiu go kapak press ur remokontol & ask "dude where's my car!?"



Don't worry, I'll be waiting to buy organs from the death's donation nod.gif
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post Aug 29 2014, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(2JayZ @ Aug 29 2014, 10:04 AM)
But...But...is abandon wor bro  sad.gif 
I exchange my parts with his parts only. Trading  laugh.gif
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Good, where do u stay ar? I believe night time when u go to bed ur kar oso abandoned jor geh sleep.gif I'll trade with u the carburetor then flex.gif
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post Sep 3 2014, 07:28 PM

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QUOTE(acap.acap @ Sep 3 2014, 06:24 PM)
Suspension question again  sweat.gif

i wan make my kancil low a bit like this, should i change to adjustable ? Most of the time i drive alone, doesnt really speed since im not driving civic .

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post Sep 3 2014, 07:55 PM

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QUOTE(acap.acap @ Sep 3 2014, 07:40 PM)
tot potong spring not recommended  ?  sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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Chib mar, sumoar jiu sei jiu dun drib Ganjil rike dribing Hongda Civig whistling.gif So, huatchu worry for? whistling.gif
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post Sep 4 2014, 12:01 AM

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QUOTE(acap.acap @ Sep 3 2014, 08:53 PM)
cheap cheap how much ? haha . nowdays i only drive kancil .

potong spring or change sport spring ? and whats the effect for both ? pro and cons
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Regardless, as long spring after compress is shorter than stock, sure esoba cipat rosak jor whistling.gif So, either a ploperly design spork spling or spling potong, both is gonna harm ur esoba whistling.gif Since both is gonna harm, might as well cut spling gao dim whistling.gif

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