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 LYN Kancil's Owner Club a.k.a SLK V4, New home for our sweet little kancil

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davidke20
post Nov 18 2014, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(moderno @ Nov 18 2014, 04:58 PM)
my ride preparation for Kei-Attack V3 event at Litar Dato' Sagor, Perak earlier this month  smile.gif  unfortunately engine breakdown during free run / practise session.. doh.gif  aiming to set new lap time but no luck this time

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davidke20
post Nov 27 2014, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(Tropiex @ Nov 27 2014, 10:16 AM)
Haha.. takde pulak intention nak tukar.. in case 1 ari nanti nak guna EPS. Skrang ni, ada masalah kat steering rack. Terangkat sikit sbb kita guna steering rack kelisa/kenari. pomen kata dah potong tie end tp still ada terangkat n nampak x balance. ada otai2 yg dpt bantu tak?
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post Nov 28 2014, 12:09 AM

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QUOTE(Tropiex @ Nov 27 2014, 03:07 PM)
haha..itu dah jadi pautsteering dah otai david.. haha.. boleh jadi gym dlm keta biggrin.gif
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post Nov 28 2014, 06:09 AM

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QUOTE(Tropiex @ Nov 28 2014, 03:24 AM)
Dah coba dulu guna saga taun 1997. That timenarm ada muscle wor.. haha.. hari2 gymkereta.. otai david jumpa enjin suda ka
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davidke20
post Dec 4 2014, 07:05 PM

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QUOTE(kb24 @ Dec 4 2014, 03:40 PM)
dear all kancil sifu, i not sure whether i post in correct thread or not. need help with my kancil as it produce 'weeee' noise during driving. the sound increase when accelerate and decrease during idle. This sound occur after my mechanic undock engine to repair my engine oil leak issues. He changed flywheel, and gasket of my engine as no black oil leakage found on the floor. In the same time he change my car timing belt and aircon belting too. Then, the 'weee' noise start. Returned to mechanic and he change another belting and alternator but still got noise. Total damage up to now is RM1800. I cant bear it anymore. Any suggestion or idea where might be the issue? He suspect oil pump spoilt as i pour too much black oil when it leak
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U should source for help BEFORE you spend that 1800. Now in cantonese we called wash your head wet(洗溼個頭), you'll have no choice but to continue work on it.

Whining noise getting louder by the speed? 1st of all, after change gear, does the whining sound pitch lower again according to RPM instead of KMH? If the noise keep pitching higher by vehicle speed regarding which gear you're on, then con9lan7fem is your gebox jor. Either change 1 or continue drive until engine explode then change engine gebox 1 shot. Don't bother to repair gebox, really not worthy geh. Your so call magician knows it veli well, a 1994 Ganjil 660 can fetch the whole car for less than RM1000! Any given time I would have buy another 1 and strip that car for sparepare!

If the whining noise is according to RPM(every gear changed, the noise pitch lower according to RPM), you'll have a small headache now. Yes, belting could be the issue, but your magician doesn't know if he wipe wax(candle) on the belt can remove the freakin noise? In the event you dunno which belt make noise, then do it 1 by 1 until found 1 that remove the noise, then change that belt lar haiyo! If all belting after waxed also doesn't remove the noise, then need to change bearing 1 by 1 liao.
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post Dec 5 2014, 12:40 AM

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QUOTE(kb24 @ Dec 4 2014, 10:26 PM)
Sifu davidke20, i wouldnt return to that shop and plan to bring to other workshop. My plan is to ask the mechanic to check on my timing belt as other belting have been realigned. What do u think, shud i change to other workshop or remain the same? If i change workshop mean i have to pay another labour fee.

As for the whinning sound, changing to higher gear doesnt affect the noise level. Mean if i go from 3rd gear to 4th gear, the noise level are the same, not increasing. If i let car to idle, the noise level will reduce. The noise doesn't occur directly during engine startup. It only start to whine after probably 10mins drive. Then the noise will still

I google and found that some mention about timing belt break-in period. How true is that? Ever encounter before?
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Timing belt does not need a breakin, it will only BREAK when it's fertic. It's very hard for me to troubleshoot for you here according to your description. If the sound is from the belting, every gear change the noise will reduce according to your engine speed, as RPM climbed the noise will increase again. Your car, 3rd gear & 4th gear stay the same level afterall, I'd take a bet the issue is with the gebox.

I wouldn't say whether changing workshop is good for you, because you could probably ended up fall in to another snake pit if you have no technical knowledge after all. I have a magician, but he's in Dengkil. Unless you're around that area, then I can recommend you. If you're in PJ, can come SS2 KFC find me because I work as janitor wash toilet and mob floor. I can take a short break with the permission of restaurant manager to have a look at your car before you go get slaughter again.
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post Dec 5 2014, 08:30 AM

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QUOTE(kb24 @ Dec 5 2014, 08:02 AM)
Sifu davidke20, i at sarawak tongue.gif so not possible to drive my car find u. Ok, this weekend i will ask mechanic to look at the gearbox. Does troubleshooting require engine to be taken out or can be access without engine been removed? If required enigne removed, i need to pay labour fee again T.T
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Experienced magician can identify the sound itself by driving the car alone, no need take out anything to be sure whether it's gebox or engine related. The trouble is, if it's not gebox, that means magician will have to asses the noise from engine instead. Below are estimated work/price to be charged according to different procedure needed to carried out:

1) Adjust auxiliary belting position. Either tighten it if i'ts loose, or loosen it if it's over tighten. Usually FREE. Bad magician will charge RM20/belt. (Timing belt adjustment is not included)
2) If suspecting belt deterioration, swap wax(candle) on the belt edge 1 by 1, until find out which belt is making noise because after swap wax on the belt it will remove the noise for a short time. usually it's free also. Even if it's chargeable, it has to be charged under the same procedure as no.1, so should not incur extra cost for this procedure
3) If timing belt wrong position, adjust timing and repositioning timing belt is RM25 to RM40 max.
4) If the above 1~3 does not fix the problem, then will have to check on the bearings. However, this should not incurred extra cost also because an experienced magician can tell whether it's belt noise or bearing noise by just starting up the car. If it indeed is bearing sound, taking the engine out will be the last thing to do. Usually magician will use a screwdriver point at the nearest suspicious bearing & put his/her ear on the screwdriver, use it as a stethoscope to identify which bearing is busted. Again, usually no charge on diagnostic, and shall charged upon part replacement.

If the magician clearly can tell it's a gebox sound, then you no need to do anything. Continue to drive until clutch busted than only see what needed to be done. Because our gebox need to pull out the entire engine baru can start work doh.gif According to your previous statement, you did mentioned your magician worked on the FLYWHEEL. I'm also curious if the flywheel were fitter properly, or whether they magician changed a busted clutch release bearing hmm.gif
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post Dec 5 2014, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(kb24 @ Dec 5 2014, 09:16 AM)
sifu, can be flywheel be check without engine removed?
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Kenot. But if wanto check whether it's clutch slip or uneven flywheel, usually can self diagnose as below:

1) Start the engine with shift neutral
2) Make sure handbrake is fully locked
3) Have your right foot on the berak pedal but do not touch it
4) Declutch(press on clutch pedal), engage 3rd gear
5) Gradually release clutch pedal and press on accelerator(do it very slowly)

The outcome:

a) If the car no jerk straight away engine stall - Clutch and flywheel is in good bite/even surface
b) If car vibrate like mad - Clutch is in good condition, but flywheel wavy
c) If engine no stall RPM continue to climb whilst car not moving at all - Clutch is in bad condition or clutch cover loose tension
d) If the car jerking forward without engine stall - You've got yourself a V10 4.5litre twin turbo engine in the car, too powderful liao.

If wanna check the physical condition and or clutch issue, engine and gebox has to be removed from the mountings in order to access into clutch housing area. Otherwise no can do.

IF clutch and or flywheel has no issue, but noise still appearing after certain speed attained and it pitch higher according to traveling speed, there's a possibility of wore off final drive(gear) inside the gebox. If this issue, no need to repair. Drive until rosak then change gebox.

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post Dec 5 2014, 10:13 PM

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QUOTE(kb24 @ Dec 5 2014, 09:35 PM)
Dear sifu davidke20, i have done the testing. The car stall with minimum vibration and jerking. So i suppose flywheel and clutch are in good condition. Now narrowing down to either gearbox and timing belt twnsion.
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Can u get someone hold your phone near to the dashboard(but do not contact any instrument surface), whilst you drive the car from 1~5 gear and make a video record? Make sure the camera man doesn't cover the microphone, so can record the sound inside the cabin. Do the recording in the close window environment without aircond. Least I can try my luck see whether I can help you identify the issue before you go get slaughter again. If possible, get the cameraman sit at the back seat right at the middle but holding your camera/phone infront to record your speed and RPM all together. Once done, upload it on youtube and share the link here. That will be the best and easiest way for me to diagnose OFF SITE.
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post Dec 6 2014, 08:11 PM

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QUOTE(kb24 @ Dec 6 2014, 04:42 PM)
sifu, i only manage to capture my engine sound.. not yet testing the gear1 to 5 drive sound yet. Will try capture it 2nite or 2molo during driving to town later

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Sounded like ada bearing jam lar sleep.gif Clearly its a metal grinding noise liao and ur magician go and do the beltings pulak sleep.gif Jiu try to go get a candle, off the engine then sapu all the edges of the belts see whether it helps. If not, then quite kon9lan7fem it's the bearings liao(or could be water pump also).
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post Dec 7 2014, 08:35 AM

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QUOTE(kb24 @ Dec 6 2014, 10:30 PM)
sifu, waterpump already change before.. juz now my car couldn't start, so bring to another magician.. he help me troubleshoot the sound and put some grease.. juz now drive out to town, still got sound but lowered.. when drive back, no sound at all.. i will test it out again tomorrow.. the magician suspect it might be pulley was not properly align rubbing with the casing. what do sifu think? any possibility on that. he say kancil pulley if not install properly will rub with casing.

oh ya, and about my car couldn't start, he help me change the contact point..
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Ask that magician see whether he can help adjust the pulley & how marj he cas. Huai ur kar so troublesome geh dry.gif Nasibaek kontekpoin not xpansib.
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post Dec 7 2014, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(kb24 @ Dec 7 2014, 01:06 PM)
read some google info.. might be either distributor, carburator dirty, idler or air/fuel mixture ratio.. not sure which one.. as for distributor, since he change contact point, so i guess he should have been check on the distributor as well too i think
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I had that problem where my car can't idle at all, which the idling switch was jammed. I took out the actuator switch, saw it off & permenantily shut the autochoke function. Idling RPM set to 1000 cun2, until today. Carburetor, I got myself a can of carb cleaner for RM12 & cleaned 9 9 ady laugh.gif distributor ady upgraded to electronic, so I dunno whether the contact point will make those problem u mentioned blink.gif
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post Dec 8 2014, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(kb24 @ Dec 7 2014, 10:13 PM)
wow, u modified the autochoke function.. ok, let me google how to do that.. as for carb cleaner, i also saw some youtube show how to decarb the engine.. one thing i want to confirm on this is that when decarb, i have to keep throttle the engine to make sure it decarb rite? but for how long?
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clean carburetor is not decarbonize engine sweat.gif

sweat.gif its been taking too much time for me to reply your 1 problem follow another sweat.gif


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post Dec 12 2014, 01:19 AM

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QUOTE(MrTfq @ Dec 12 2014, 12:37 AM)
Recently i just change my kancil rims. It rota style 14" 7jj. Just want to know will jpj saman me for wearing this rim?
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Yes if they're not thirsty. Otherwise, need to buy coffee.
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post Dec 15 2014, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(dexmonata @ Dec 15 2014, 05:03 PM)
guys, if kancil accident, dont wanna repair so decide to sell it as spare part. How much should be the price?
accident involve only front side area (bonet,bfender, chassis already bent, front bumper broken)

btw...kancil is year 1998 with l2 engine..no serious damage on engine.
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U lidat ask very hard to answer wor hmm.gif u sell it by yourself part by part or jiu wangto sell to chopshop 1 kali? If sell chopshop sure kena chop probably will only weight by kilo. If jiu separately, injin can still easily go for 2-3k I belib. Other part selowly sell piece by piece, the whole kar I thing still can fetch around 5-7k kot if so happen got pipu wanna find that part lar. In the end, nowadays wanna buy 1 fully modded ganjil L5 can easily fetch 6~7k outside, so dun expect u can untung lar.
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post Dec 23 2014, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(Tropiex @ Dec 23 2014, 08:23 PM)
Later check it out.. anyone heard of JIC suspension? A friend of mine wanna sell the spring. He got it from a l5 halfcut..
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post Dec 28 2014, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(naspek @ Dec 28 2014, 10:55 AM)
hey there..
i got couple of problems with my kancil 660m.. i really hope sifu here can help me here..  notworthy.gif

1) when i'm using gear-3 i drove around 30-40km/h, the engine will ramp up..
I was thinking that there is problem with clutch plate.. but don't know whether it's correct or not.. sad.gif

2) when i'm driving around 20km/h using gear-2, i felt like the front part of the car shaking very hard.. I was thinking that there is problem with bearing of the front tyres.. but don't know whether it's correct or not..
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Please help me here...

one last thing, the temperature keep on rising more than half of the meter.. is it the fan problem?
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1) clutch plate punya clutch pad sudah habish

2) Flywheel/clutch cover atopon dua² pon ade bengkoked

Last thing, radiator sumbat/ water pump tarak chantek/ kipas pusing selow/ air tangki tarak cukup also can cause such rising temperature issue.

Send it to your magician to check. I can't help you HERE other than feedback yawn.gif
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post Dec 28 2014, 06:37 PM

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QUOTE(naspek @ Dec 28 2014, 05:37 PM)
aisey.. sounds like it's going to be expensive doh.gif
really appreciate ur feedbacks though...

i'm asking perodua service center n they quote me RM800..  cry.gif
is there any specific bengkel that u guys go to service ur kancil? icon_question.gif
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ada, dekat dengkil. Harge pasaran for klac kit is around 250. Labor usually 150 ~ 200. Some extra cost may incurred during open gebox, such as driveshaft boot. Kalau picah, 1 bijik RM35. If all 4 picah, then RM140 it is. Gear oil lagi, 2 liter++, biase kira 3 liter straight RM60. Since ady taken off the gebox, might as well 1 shot ask magician suh antar kedai mesin kasi skim 1 layer of the flywheel. Machinery shop charge RM35 / skimming, magician may be will charge upah RM15. Since ciken sudah beli, tak kan tak belik soya sos? Might as well do them 1 shot.

Total damaged, should be RM800 as per your P2 SC quoted. But do outside you get a lot of things done 1 shot lar. In P2, after change klac then other things come kacau lar yawn.gif
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post Dec 29 2014, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(COOLPINK @ Dec 29 2014, 04:04 PM)
kancil temperature tinggi most probably stuck thermostat.
Always check faulty thermostat first, commom problem for kancil.
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post Dec 31 2014, 03:12 PM

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New year resolution, get a new paint job done yawn.gif Actually this resolution was laid since 10 years ago

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