what if comparing medium or even high-end AIO kit vs air cooler in terms of performance/price ? I doesn't care about how loud will the fan be.

I personally kind of prefer AIO kit because it cover the whole processor so there is no space between processor that allow dust to go in.

Can try to go for idealtech promotion,
go for Versa H23 chassis and free wireless dongle.

thx bro...actually im looking for desktop computer with built in CPU...any recommendation? mind give me link as well?

not can't just asking bro..i will look this out too

in conclusion i need a desktop computer with built in cpu...just for entertainment purpose and Microsoft office usage, budget not more than rm1500

means in one..not separate monitor and cpu..sorry if confusing cz not sure what term to use

i came across with this to ask opinion

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[Budget]: RM3.5K - 4K
[Purpose]: Gaming,multimedia and Photo Editing
[Hardwares that will be re-use] WD BLACK 1TB
[Monitor resolution]: Reuse existing
[Games & softwares that use frequently]:Photo editor software.multimedia and latest game.
[Personal preferences]: the casing can house 4-6 3.5" HDD (include HDD rack in 5.25" if needed, plan to use it as data storage as well), mid tower casing.
[Location]: Selangor

*Almost forgot, I notice IdealTech and lingloong provide full warranty claim..how about to the shop?such as Lowyat*..Thank you

you can buy pre-built pc like the one from acer, hp, asus or any other brands.
its less hassle to built and easier when it come to warranty as they will deal will manufacturer.

with custom built, you got more perfomance per money, easily upgrade-able, now even most shop assemble for free.
but the downside is you still need to buy OS which is cost alot, if you are not into piracy or dont know "how to".

i think you should go with custom built as it provides more benefit for you.

I have question to all sifus and pro at here

Window 7 VS window 8

Which one is stable n better?

and I also wandering when customize a desktop no need include a (software window price)?

Thank you

Question guys, how much money do I have to spend on a (CPU only) rig that will max the most graphics intensive games today and in the near future (maybe watch dogs, gta5, these kind of games?)

Will 3-4k be enough or will that only get me a medium gaming rig?

Settled for these instead quoted from IdealTech. Is this a good build? Please do suggest me improvement if any.

CPU: Intel Core I5 4690K RM769
MOBO: ASrock Z97 Extreme 4 RM570
RAM: GSkill RipjawsX XM 2x4GB DDR3 2400mhz RM299
HDD: WD 1TB Cavair Blue HDD Rm189
Chasis: NZXT H440 White RM399
GPU: Gainward GTX770 2GB DDR5 RM1199
Cooler : Corsair Hydro H100i RM459
PSU: Seasonic M12II-750 EVO (80+Bronze) RM439
LCD: Dell 23" S2340L IPS RM569x2units RM1138
Speaker : Logitech Z313 RM120
Total: RM5581

Thanks.

Thanks! I would like to keep it below 4k if possible. I only need the CPU as I can recycle my screen, keyboard, etc from my current PC.

I don't think he need much. He is recycling from his old PC, so casing and HDD already have I presume.

Oops... sorry, when I said CPU, i meant the entire CPU tower.. the "rig" itself. As far as recycling the rig parts, I can only recycle the SSD from the laptop (it is a Crucial M4 128 GB, I think should be compatible with the new rig?)

Also thanks for quick suggestions, going through them 1 by 1 atm

unless u feel rm 150++ more for extra 0.3ghz(around 8.1% more) + a iGPU which even dota2 lowest setting also just 40fps but still able to display and watch movie , then u can probably get that instead of xeon e3-1230v3

Ok thank. Reason for asking if should I just go with the 770 or spend a little over my budget to get 780 or AMD.
I guess 770 is fine.

Hi guys,

Finalizing my build thanks to advise from here So far specs are :

Proc - i5-4460
Mobo - Asrock H97M Pro 4
HDD - 2 TB WD Black
PSU - Seasonic S12II 620
Casing - Bitfenix Prodigy M
RAM - 16GB Value RAM (8 x 2)
GPU - Pending

Will the RAM sticks be able to fit ? And does anyone have recommendation on a wifi card which will be able to get into that casing ?

GPU pending as I'm waiting for the nVidia 800 series and can live with integrated graphics for a few weeks

Hi sifus,

How much "real" difference will I be able to see with a Zotac GTX780 Ti Amp! with a "standard" GTX780 card? I'm seeing some replies here saying the standard GTX780 going as low as RM1670 which is so much cheaper than the Ti Amp! version which is around RM2300 (savings can go to a better processor). From xbitlabs it seems to be about ~5FPS difference on the few games they tested.

I'm not sure if the Ti Amp will fare better with newer "next gen" games or the performance increase is negligible. Maybe you can advice to spare me any potential regrets with skimping on the card now 



Also @Zgames I've modified your recommended build slightly based on Logical Increments Guide for a "balanced" build (others who are looking to build a PC, check this out too, the site is really helpful)

Proc - i5-4460 i5-4690 or i7-4790
Mobo - ASrock H97 Pro4 ASrock H97m Pro4 (I want to fit this inside a Micro ATX)
RAM - 8GB Value RAM
PSU - Seasonic S12II 620w
GPU - Zotac GTX 780 Ti AMP! or "standard" GTX 780
HDD & SSD - recycle
Casing - maybe bitfenix or fractal design 1000

To recap, I want a gaming rig (only) that will allow me to max out graphics and as future-proof as possible within a RM4k budget +-

Any critique / comment to help me fine tune and finalize my build is very much appreciated! 

I've heard a bit about Xeon too. Will I need any special knowledge to use it or can just plug in like any i5 proc?