[OFFICIAL]Rig Suggestion Q&A Thread V6!
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 May 19 2014, 04:53 PM
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QUOTE(y4ng @ May 19 2014, 04:50 PM) your advice is always good =) Like I stated in my previous post, unless you planning to SLI it in future, no use to get 4GB. Its all over the net that the extra 2GB of GTX760 is practically useless.someone quoted me gainward GTX, but i was looking at MSI as well. should i even consider 4gb with a 1k budget for GPU?  |
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May 20 2014, 01:42 AM
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QUOTE(iddeen @ May 20 2014, 01:18 AM) Are there any alternatives for the PSU? I dont mind spending a little bit more since i've learnt my lesson not to skimp on them >.> That should be an OK unit of PSU. Cheaper would mean Antec VP450 at RM130, while pricier mean Antec VP550 at RM200, of which both unit is same OEM as the FSP Hexa. Alternatively, there is silverstone strider essential 500W at RM200 also.Also, no plans to upgrade, so I can go as low as 400W. If you really willing to pay, try to top up till RM300 and get a Seasonic PSU. BTW, what is your GPU? This post has been edited by Human10: May 20 2014, 01:43 AM |
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May 20 2014, 01:47 AM
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QUOTE(iddeen @ May 20 2014, 01:45 AM) An undervolted Gigabyte HD6770 . Shitty card gets pretty hot when under load. The FSP Hexa should do the job as you say you didn't plan to upgrade in future. |
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Jul 15 2014, 02:01 AM
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QUOTE(nyunyu @ Jul 15 2014, 12:24 AM) Guys, is this a good spec? Price mixed from idealtech/lingloong/viewnet Cut from the RAM and mobo.Processor : Intel core i5-4670K - RM769 Motherboard : Asus Maximus VII Ranger - RM699 SSD : Samsung 840 EVO 250GB - RM559 RAM : Avexir Blitz 1.1 Original 2x4GB DDR3 2400Mhz - RM399 Graphic card : MSI N660 Gaming 2GD5/OC - RM799 Cooler : Larkooler Skywater 330L - RM399 PSU : Corsair HX650 - RM400 DVD : Samsung S-SATA 24x DVD-RW - RM59 Monitor : 2pcs Dell U2312HM 23" - RM589 x2 Speaker : Logitech z313 - RM129 Case : NZXT PHANTOM 530 - RM475 Trying to fit into RM5K budget but went overboard. A little bit of help is appreciated. The GPU is too dated (pretty much EOLed in the market) and doesn't justify in a set of 5k rig, try to get minimumly a GTX760. Overall, I won't call it a good specs for a RM5k rig (or I should say RM4k since you spent RM1k+ for the monitor). The stuffs are good/cool/premium but they don't aid in making your rig powerful. It's better focus more punch on the GPU/GPU first b4 concentrating on fancy cool looking RAM/MOBO/CASE/COOLER. i5 4670k (769) Asrock Z87 Extreme4 (549) 840 EVO 250GB (559) 8GB Hyper X Fury (289) GTX760 (799) Decent Air cooler (200) Antec/Seasonic PSU (300) DVD (60) Monitor (1180) Speaker (130) Sub 200 budget case (200) Total - 5035 This post has been edited by Human10: Jul 15 2014, 02:27 AM |
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Jul 15 2014, 07:56 PM
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QUOTE(grim1989 @ Jul 15 2014, 06:55 PM) Hi i'm new to the current trend of pc building... I assume you are going for a OC built since you opt for an unlocked low mid tier CPU over higher tier newer CPU.please forgive me if i did anything wrong. PS: some of the parts have already bought. [Budget] RM2000~RM2500 (Include Monitor) [Will add extra 1.5k if monitor is overbudget ] [Purpose] Finding the rest of the parts for the whole setup. Unable to decide.  [Hardwares that will be re-use] List Below already bought MOBO - Asus M5A99X EVO R2.0 CPU - AMD FX 6350 GPU - Sapphire R9 290 Tri-X 4GB [Monitor resolution] 1080p [Games & softwares that use frequently] Heavy Gaming mostly Shooting Games and old XP games, also include watching movie. [Personal preferences] Monitor 24" [Location] Penang Thank you for your time and peace~  Case - 250 Air cooler - 250 8GB RAM - 300 1TB HDD - 200 128GB SSD - 300 Dell Ultrasharp Monitor - 850 DVD - 60 Subtotal = RM2210. Alternatively, you can try to sell your current mobo and CPU and opt for a non-OC Intel built and safe some pennies from buying a cooler. p/s: Just noticed that I missed out the PSU. Get a Antec/Seasonic PSU within your budget. This post has been edited by Human10: Jul 15 2014, 09:58 PM |
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Jul 15 2014, 10:03 PM
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QUOTE(a1075 @ Jul 15 2014, 09:17 PM) Thx for your advise. How about LOL, you add all of them together also breach your stated budget already...Processor: core i5 4460 - rm569 Mainboard: asus b85 pro gamer - rm379 Ram: 4gb pc 1333/1600 8c - rm129 Display card: g-byte gt650 oc 2gb d5 128bit - rm499 Hdd: 1tb sata - rm174 Optical drive: DVD - rm-59 Casing: cm k380 - rm149 Power supply: cooler master elite v2 500w - rm159 Monitor: Samsung s22c170bs - rm359 Any amendment need to be made? Please advise. Thanks all Anyway, opt for cheaper mobo (avoid Asus if you don't have enough budget). RAM if possible opt for 8GB in a stick, cheaper (per size) and potentially better resale value. GTX650 is dated and near EOL stuff already, better get GTX750TI. Some Cooler Master PSU is having bad reputation and questionable reliability. For budget rig, you can opt for FSP/Antec PSU under RM200. You might want to get a more decent monitor nowadays. |
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Jul 15 2014, 10:04 PM
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QUOTE(chiwee @ Jul 15 2014, 09:53 PM) Usually this HDD is suggested. But what exact model number and specs does it refer to? What's the Interface, Buffer Size, RPM, Cache? 3.5" WD Blue it is.Normal consumer use WD HDD only 3 types, Green, Blue and Black. This post has been edited by Human10: Jul 15 2014, 10:06 PM |
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Jul 15 2014, 10:10 PM
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QUOTE(chiwee @ Jul 15 2014, 10:09 PM) But there are so many models under WB Blue category. And 2 of them have 1 TB capacity with different Cache size. Whichever available at the retail store. http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.aspx?id=770  |
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Jul 15 2014, 10:14 PM
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QUOTE(chiwee @ Jul 15 2014, 10:12 PM) really? So I might get the one with 32MB Cache size instead of 64MB one? I doubt if the retail store will carry both models, so whichever available shall do. |
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Jul 15 2014, 10:25 PM
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QUOTE(Jedi @ Jul 15 2014, 10:18 PM) Hi guys, 1) Because Asus can be seriously overpriced sometimes. And you call B85 Pro Gamer a value at RM379?!?!? I would like to ask a few things here to sifu: 1) Why do people recommend Asrock motherboard over ASUS (I am seeing b85 Pro Gamer for performance + value) 2) I am leaning towards nvidia too. Is it worth the squeeze @ RM 150+ for gtx 760 OC vs the normal 3) DDR 3 1600 vs 1866, does it make a difference in gaming? thanks  I wondering what do you feel so value about it.  2) 150 is quite a big percentage of RM800 already. Chance are you won't even get as much performance increase as the increase in price. If you willing to spend, might as well get a R9 280x, IINM cheapest one cost around 1k only. 3) The differences are minimal to non. |
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Jul 15 2014, 10:32 PM
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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Jul 15 2014, 10:27 PM) Price/performance.. Which shop you found the H97 Plus at RM379?  And how is the Asus B85 Gamer performance + value?Asrock B85 Killer is more or less the same..but cheaper,at RM299..  Yeah.Zotac GTX760 AMP! 2GB GDDR5 RM869 from GBros.. |
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Jul 15 2014, 10:41 PM
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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Jul 15 2014, 10:37 PM) IdealTech. That price is more OK compared to other Asus, LEL. |
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Jul 15 2014, 10:47 PM
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QUOTE(Jedi @ Jul 15 2014, 10:44 PM) Thanks all for the prompt reply. IdealtechFor Asrock B85 Killer, I did not manage to find it under the Viewnet latest list. Where can I get that @ the price suggested Minecrafter? Mainly I am looking for at least 2 USB 3.0 ports, one for SSD at least. Most (if not all) mobo nowadays sure will have 2USB 3.0 ports. One for SSD means? |
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Jul 15 2014, 10:56 PM
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QUOTE(Jedi @ Jul 15 2014, 10:50 PM) SATA III ports. Good enough for most ppl.But yeah I guess the mainstream mobos have all that I want  I trust I do not need extra sound card anymore? My last desktop was year 2007 and now I returned from my studies, at that time audigy 2 was my sound card and I hear over these years (when I lagged behind in PC world), mobo sound is as good for gaming. |
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Jul 16 2014, 01:51 AM
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QUOTE(a1075 @ Jul 15 2014, 11:51 PM) Thanks a lot guys! 1) That is probably some naming scheme of Asus, details I not too sure. It should be compatible, but with BIOS update first.Right now I will go for CPU: i5 4440 3.1GHz - rm554 MOBO: Asus h81m-k - rm199 Ram: corsair 8gb d3 1600mhz - rm244 Gpu: sapphire r9 270x dual-x 2gb - rm689 Hdd: WD cavier blue 1tb - rm174 Odd: liteon 24x dvdrw - rm59 Casing: cm k380 - rm149 Psu: fsp hexa 500w Monitor: Samsung s22c170bs 22' - rm359 TOTAL: rm2576 1) may I know what's the k in asus h81m-k stand for? What's the diff between it and pro gamer? Because if not mistaken, what the salesperson told me is he worries h81m-k can't afford to support i5 4460. 2) any suggestion on MOBO other than asus? Which as rock is good enough to support it? Totally have zero knowledge on it 😰 3) http://support.asus.com/Cpusupport/List.as...H81M-K&p=1&s=45 2) If mobo suggestion, I will suggest anything better than B85, for which H81 don't have PCIe 3.0. Not too critical to be a problem now but who know in future you might want to upgrade a powerful GPU, then it may make a different. If you want specific model, Asrock B85 Killer seems to be a good fit between price, feature and look. Else, just opt for whatever B85 you found the cheapest (though do note on the number of PCI(e) slots on them if you plan to add any PCI(e) expansion cards such as WifiCard). This post has been edited by Human10: Jul 16 2014, 01:56 AM |
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Jul 16 2014, 01:38 PM
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QUOTE(Jedi @ Jul 16 2014, 11:39 AM) ok good, I will go with seagate then. Most likely I will visit Idealtech next week. Nothing beat subscribing to a higher bandwidth internet service like Unifi/Maxis Fibre. You may be amazed by how much superior Unifi/Maxis Fibre over the 4M Screamyx once you tried it.+ Do you happen to have read any good article read on routers,I dont have experience on this but I always hear theres a big difference in gaming online experience (right now using DSL 2640B given from tmnet streamyx 4mbps package) so I would want to switch too if I can enhance online experience, even for streaming, if it will make a difference. This post has been edited by Human10: Jul 16 2014, 01:38 PM |
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Jul 16 2014, 02:17 PM
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QUOTE(grim1989 @ Jul 16 2014, 02:12 PM) Thank you for your time and suggestion Nope, it's being a long time since IDE being ditched. Mobo/PSU nowadays only SATA port available. Additional Question: 1. i wish to know if old 160GB IDE hdd will be able to compatible with the rig that i'm building.. that will be for win xp only 2. Will laptop hdd make a good additional storage space? have an extra from laptop. Note: Yup is a dual OS(xp and win7) rig. Thank you all~ You can use laptop HDD (SATA) and shouldn't have any issue. This post has been edited by Human10: Jul 16 2014, 02:18 PM |
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Jul 17 2014, 03:45 AM
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QUOTE(jakuraz @ Jul 16 2014, 11:40 PM) but...but...that gpu...i really want gtx770 Stuffing a GTX770 in a 2.2k OC built with monitor budget is pretty impossible, LOL. This post has been edited by Human10: Jul 17 2014, 03:55 AM |
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Jul 17 2014, 03:54 AM
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QUOTE(jakuraz @ Jul 16 2014, 11:32 PM) this 1 really good ah? IINM, not all chip can OC over 4.5ghz, it all back down to your luck. So, don't hold your hope too high up first, and good luck for you.what do u guys think abt this rig (quoted price by feiton, maybe some cheaper bcos i ask for full rig not parts by parts) : CPU:Intel Pentium G3258 LGA 1150 - RM215 -->gonna OC to 4.7ghz or 4.8ghz later Mobo:Asus B85M-G - RM255 -->compatible with G3258 GPU: Gainward GTX750Ti GS - RM470 Ram: Kingston hyper X fury 4GB 1600mhz - RM145 HDD: WD Blue 1TB - RM177 PSU: Antec EA-Platinum-550-NC - RM299 Casing: Cooler Master N300 Mid Tower Casing - RM130 Monitor:Dell S2340L - RM545 Total RM2236 ...speaker, keyboard, mouse i alrdy have. network connection using LAN (no need buy wifi card), ODD no need. As suggested, above, you also need a 3rd party cooler for OC. CM 812 cost around RM120+ should do the job good enough. Cut down a little budget from the RAM by going value RAM if you feel it is necessary. Although what we normally recommend is to get a good PSU, your PSU seems a little too good and overbudget for your rig (infact the whole system of G3258 with GTX750TI most probably won't even breach 300W, or even 250W). |
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Jul 17 2014, 01:57 PM
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QUOTE(jakuraz @ Jul 17 2014, 10:53 AM) ok, got it. To powerup some monster rig, you don't look at the efficiency first, the wattage first.btw im referring to the RM299 in below pic. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « it's different than VP550. the EA-550 Platinum is better i guess with 85% efficiency compared to VP550P with 82% efficiency. i cant even find VP550P in the garage sales anymore. CM TPC 812 is this one right? btw this is promotion for return customer only... » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « i've seen feiton's lelong profile and it's stated there he is selling it at RM120 -->Link |
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