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post Aug 10 2014, 06:39 PM

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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Aug 10 2014, 06:04 PM)
Ye kee? tongue.gif
http://www.hardwarezone.com.my/priceLists/...load/467089.pdf
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I wonder if they got stock or not.
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QUOTE(Joch @ Aug 10 2014, 08:59 PM)
guys pls help me out, i think there are some problem with my cpu stock fan or whatever.

during stress test, my processor ran up to 98'C in seconds! from what is saw online, this temperature is too high!

what could be wrong? pls help!

**im non-OC user
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How old is your PC? You may have to clean the heatsink due to dust buildup on it.
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post Aug 10 2014, 09:10 PM

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QUOTE(Joch @ Aug 10 2014, 09:05 PM)
i just bought it not even 1 months.. idle is around 55'C.. nt sure what happened?
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Must be thermal compound or air flow issue or your area is hot. Try putting your PC directly infront of window or entrance of your room. Direct the exhaust to it.
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QUOTE(Joch @ Aug 10 2014, 09:23 PM)
my casing has 2x 120mm front intake fan, 1x 120mm rear exhaust fan and 1x 200mm top exhaust fan.
i think thr is no problem with the surrounding since my graphic card is able to run at 40'C idle and max 70'C on gaming.

and also even i set cpu fan to 100% the temp like no decrease oso. i checked online n my cpu fan is installed correctly.
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Definitely thermal compound issue then. Try replacing it with better ones like Arctic Cooling MX-4.
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QUOTE(Joch @ Aug 10 2014, 10:45 PM)
ok i will go buy it.. but before applying it do i need to remove the previous thermal compound? or jz str8 apply on it? nvr do this b4, thx ya
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You will need to clear the old one. Use tissue then Alcohol Swab then wipe it clean with tissue. You can get Alcohol Swab from pharmacy.

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QUOTE(limky96 @ Aug 10 2014, 11:18 PM)
Yo budd!  biggrin.gif  I'm going to buy a new gaming rig and I need some suggestion.  hmm.gif

[Budget] RM2000~RM3000
[Purpose] Gaming, drama, movie icon_rolleyes.gif
[Hardwares that will be re-use] mouse, keyboard, speaker, headphone, monitor
[Games & softwares that use frequently] dota2, cod, watchdogs, assassin creed
[Personal preferences] planning to use 3 monitors and able to support eyefinity
[Location] lowyat

kamsamnida!  notworthy.gif
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You may have issue playing watchdogs with 3 monitors. This game is very demanding.

How about these?

Core i5-4460 - RM569
Asrock B85M-HDS motherboard - RM239
Kingston 8GB DDR3-1600 x1 - RM244
Sapphire R9 280X 3GB DDR5 Vapor-X - RM1099
WD Blue 1TB hard disk - RM174
DVD writer of your choice - RM59
Seasonic S12 II or Antec HCG 620W power supply - RM299
Additional 12cm fan - RM25
Thermaltake V3 casing - RM149

RM2832 total
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QUOTE(limky96 @ Aug 10 2014, 11:41 PM)
I see  sweat.gif
Thanks for reply  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif  icon_idea.gif
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If you can squeeze around RM200 more, you can go for Sapphire R9 290 4GB DDR5 Tri-X at RM1499. I still can't guarantee the performance for 5760x1080.
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QUOTE(fish133 @ Aug 11 2014, 12:22 AM)
hi all sifu-sifu,abang-abang,need some advice on new pc
[Budget] below RM1k (is it even possible?=.=)

[Purpose] movie , music , online /single player game

[Hardwares that will be re-use] monitor, mouse,keyboard

[Games & softwares that use frequently] D2 ,some chinese online game, some old games maybe

[Personal preferences] doesnt mind for the low graphic settings ,as long as it can be played without lag
[Location] subang / seremban

-planning to build it myself , new to everything ,just follow online tutorials
-low on budget since i am still studying
-ok to 2nd hand items
tq all daigor biggrin.gif
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Yes, it is possible.

Pentium G3220 - RM159
Asrock H81M-VG4 motherboard - RM164
Kingston 2GB DDR3-1600 x1 - RM74
Sapphire R7 250 1GB DDR5 - RM289
WD Blue 500GB hard disk - RM154
DVD writer of your choice - RM59
Antec VP400 power supply - RM109
Cap ayam casing - RM39-69

RM988-1018 total


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QUOTE(piecez @ Aug 11 2014, 01:50 AM)
It is enough using 2GB ram only?
because Dota 2 requirement is at least 4GB ram  hmm.gif
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Did you read what he wants? D2 is Diablo 2 btw. Some old games.

Can squeeze 4GB RAM if he can afford another RM55 more or he got old DVD drive.

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QUOTE(fish133 @ Aug 11 2014, 02:28 AM)
sorry bro, but what i mean for d2 is dota 2 sweat.gif
plus another rm55 i am able to do that la ,just have to save money from now on and be lighter on my acceleration pedal yawn.gif
thanks bro, u really help alot
btw are those casing universal? cause i think i got 1 old casing lying in the store room like windows XP that time one
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As long as it is an ATX case, it can fit. Just make sure you add fan into it for better cooling.
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QUOTE(mohdxerox @ Aug 12 2014, 12:15 AM)
hi to all sifu.. smile.gif

[Budget] RM2000 fullset including monitor
[Purpose] Gaming, SPSS, Photoshop
[Hardwares that will be re-use] none
[Games & softwares that use frequently] dota2,bf
[Personal preferences]
[Location] lowyat

tq smile.gif or can get schand gaming pc with this low budget?
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How about these?

Core i3-4150 - RM349
Asrock B85M-HDS motherboard - RM239
Kingston 4GB DDR3-1600 x1 - RM129
Leadtek GTX750 Ti 2GB DDR5 OC - RM529
WE Blue 1TB hard disk - RM174
DVD writer of your choice - RM59
Antec VP400 power supply - RM109
Gigabyte GZ series case - RM69
LG 20M35A 20" monitor - RM269
Logiteck MK100 mouse and keyboard combo - RM39
Edifier M1250 speakers - RM39

RM2004 total

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QUOTE(NightFelix @ Aug 12 2014, 10:31 AM)
Dear Sifu here, need your help here for building this new PC. smile.gif Thank in advance!

[Budget] RM2,500 - RM3,000
[Purpose] I'm using this in large-scale printing company. Current PC is 2008-2009 old. Duo-core with 2GB Ram + 500GB HDD, well you know.
[Hardwares Re-Use] N/A, maybe my current DVD ROM? laugh.gif
[Games & softwares that use frequently] Illustrator + Coreldraw & Photoshop.
[Personal preferences] I stick with Intel CPU, no idea with MoBo & RAM, SSD prefer Intel/Samsung since these two highly rated and I need another high capacity HDD for storing file and file scratch disk purpose.
[Location] Ipoh, Perak. I have PC Depot in my town. PC Depot Price List
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PC Depot hardware selection is so limited. How about these?

Core i7-4790 - RM998
Gigabyte Z97-HD3 motherboard - RM439
Kingston 8GB KVR1600 x2 - RM540
Intel 530 120GB SSD - RM313
WD Red 2TB hard disk - RM349
<Reuse your DVD drive>
Aerocool Strike-X 500W power supply (OEM is Andyson) - RM180
Additional Coolermaster 12cm silent fan - RM25
Thermaltake V3 black case - RM160

RM3004

Setup for Adobe Photoshop CC with expansion in mind. I suggest looking for zhen^wei or youngkeen for better quality power supply like Seasonic, Corsair and Antec. They also can build entire rig and post it to you if u don't mind about the hassle of warranty. Failure from quality products is rare.

You need quality products for business use. Or you can order branded PC like HP or Dell for better support.
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QUOTE(NightFelix @ Aug 12 2014, 12:08 PM)
Thanks for the recommendation. Will use that as guidelines, I have heard of zhen^wei ideatech but never been before deal with them. If based on their current hardware list offer here: idealtech pricelist so what would be your recommendation?

Few question above as well:
1) I saw others using Xeon type of Intel Proc. What is that? First time heard of it.
2) What makes diff. of Blue, Black, Red, Green of WD HDD? Can you mind to #spoonfeed the difference?

Thank you for your time. smile.gif
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One of the buyer's testament for Idealtech:
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3311606/+20

Core i7-4790 - RM945
Asus H97-PLUS motherboard - RM379
Kingston 8GB KVR1600 x2 - RM500 (estimated)
Plextor M5 Pro Xtreme 128GB SSD - RM319
WD Red 2TB hard disk - RM329
<Reuse your DVD drive>
Antec Platinum 450W power supply (80Plus Platinum) - RM339
Additional 12cm fan - RM25
NZXT Source 210 case - RM179

RM3015 total

They sell Antec power supply as well.
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...224505&hl=antec

I don't see value RAM on their price list but I think they should have it. Please also take note they might recommend you to go performance RAM. Just ignore them and go for regular RAM. You don't get big boost of performance out of it.

Xeon is a server processor. It has the performance of i7 with slightly lower speed and doesn't come with built-in graphics.

Green is for storage, blue is for normal use, red and purple is optimized for heavy use and black is the highest grade.

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QUOTE(NightFelix @ Aug 12 2014, 01:20 PM)
Great info you got there. Thank you so much. No wonder most people go for Xeon. hmm.gif
No idea how to OC, don't want to fried up my own Company PC. sweat.gif
Just realized that you didn't recommend me a GPU. So does the build-in graphic on the Core i7 enough for it? hmm.gif
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Yes. You can even add Nvidia graphic card later for even more performance boost.
http://www.nvidia.com/object/adobe-photoshop-cc.html

I would recommend taking 550W power supply just in case though. It's RM30 more money for Antec Platinum 550W.

Do you need Windows?

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QUOTE(NightFelix @ Aug 12 2014, 02:18 PM)
If add-in Nvidia Graphic Card, I need top-up how much? What are the price range, does brand matter? hmm.gif
No problem with another RM30 top up for more power PSU.

I don't need Genuine Windows as I know how to DIY. whistling.gif Can save that RM400 something else for better hardware. biggrin.gif
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Depends on how far you wanna go. Leadtek GTX750 1GB DDR5 is at RM429.

Please also take note you may have to do some editing to enable gaming card support for Mercury Playback Engine. I don't know whether if it works on latest version or not.
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QUOTE(NightFelix @ Aug 12 2014, 05:36 PM)
Thanks. Just look at bottom the forumer recommend me the GPU price to yours so big different. sweat.gif
ZOTAC GeForce GTX760 2GB - RM749
Leadtek GTX750 1GB DDR5 is at RM429. shocking.gif
Thanks. Didn't expect that adding GPU might costs me more than RM3,000 budget already. sweat.gif
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For photoshop, it's CPU and RAM then you go for graphic card.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/core-i...ew,3521-13.html

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QUOTE(NightFelix @ Aug 12 2014, 07:33 PM)
No wonder. Now I understand why you didn't tell me to take Graphic Card at first place. So I guess I just stick with your below recommendation, if later need upgrade only take the GC.

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Couple more question:
I would recommend taking 550W power supply just in case though. It's RM30 more money for Antec Platinum 550W.
1) Do I really need get higher power of PSU just in case for future will be upgrading like previously you said? Need your advice, well like you said, just RM30 sahaja...
WD Red 2TB hard disk - RM329
2) Do you recommend me take 2 unit of 1TB HDD or 1 unit of 2TB HDD?

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I wonder how to pick good PSU? Hmmm... Did a quick Google found that Seasonic, Corsair and Antec have good quality PSU. All the while only I know CoolerMaster brand. Paiseh... So I think I pick either these top 3 brand of PSU would be a peace of mind?
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1. It's just RM30 difference. It's your money, your choice. I already recommended quality PSU.

2. This is entirely up to you. You already got the speed boost from SSD. It's the matter of storage space. Hard disks that can take more punishment like WD Red, WD Purple, WD Black and Seagate SV35 are recommended for heavy use.

3. You can find out more about PSU here.
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2620035

For tiered list, here.
https://community.newegg.com/eggxpert/compu...81/t/45344.aspx

Please also take note quality comes at a price for power supply.

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QUOTE(nothintodo @ Aug 12 2014, 09:42 PM)
hi sifu2 sekalian

planning to get a budget rm1.3k pc by september, any suggestions?  notworthy.gif

mainly using it to play games like dota 2, csgo, payday 2 etc etc, and maybe some document work.

able to reuse 1600x900 monitor, speakers, and HDD.

terima kasih banyak-banyak!
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How about these?

Core i3-4150 - RM349
Asrock H81M-VG4 motherboard - RM164
Kingston 4GB DDR3-1600 x1 - RM129
Leadtek GTX750 1GB DDR5 - RM429
DVD writer of your choice - RM59
Antec VP400 power supply - RM109
Gigabyte GZ series case - RM69

RM1308 total
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QUOTE(nothintodo @ Aug 12 2014, 10:14 PM)
thanks!! is it possible that i buang the dvd writer? haha i think i can salvage from my old pc. also if i upgrade to 8gb ram how much would it cost?

also er, the parts should be readily available in malaysia right? @_@
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Yes you can. 8GB is RM244 from Viewnet.
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QUOTE(NightFelix @ Aug 12 2014, 11:05 PM)
Once again, here is he quote me the spec:

Jesus, out of RM800 budget. Not sure my employer screw me or not. sweat.gif
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I knew he gonna push the performance RAM to you. DDR3-2133? Z97 motherboard with non-overclock processor? He builds it like it is a gaming PC. doh.gif

That's pretty big difference for your cost. They sell full size ATX H97 motherboard. It's cheaper. This is another build if you wanna cut more cost with graphic card.

Xeon E3-1230 V3 - RM795
Scythe Katana 4 - RM80
Asrock H97 Pro4 motherboard - RM329
Kingston 8GB KVR1600 x2 - RM500 (estimated)
Leadtek GTX750 1GB DDR5 - RM429
Plextor M5 Pro Xtreme 128GB SSD - RM319
WD Blue 1TB hard disk - RM179
<Reuse your DVD drive>
Seasonic S12 II 620W power supply - RM289
Additional 12cm fan - RM25
Coolermaster K380 case - RM145

RM3090 total


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