30m for lala..i rather rakitic or hamsik
English Clubs Liverpool Kop Talk 2014, Welcome Emre Can & Rickie Lambert
English Clubs Liverpool Kop Talk 2014, Welcome Emre Can & Rickie Lambert
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May 15 2014, 10:49 AM
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30m for lala..i rather rakitic or hamsik
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May 15 2014, 10:56 AM
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QUOTE(hfi @ May 15 2014, 10:46 AM) I honestly have not watched him play but if he can defend as good as Arbeloa then i reckon he might be a good bet. All i want from our fullbacks next season is for them to just be able to defend when required. Attacking contribution will be icing on the cake. I would say Moreno is more of a attacking wingback. Very quick but not very strong, typical Spanish, which is why I'm not too convinced. Arbeloa's strength is also his ability to play on both flanks. Moreno is only comfortable with his left foot from what I've seen.While i really rate all those players, we need to look at the areas in the team where we need strengthening. For me the main areas that requires immediate attention are the fullbacks and the left side of the mdifield. The fullback situation speaks for themselves but the left side of the midfield is why we might splash huge amount for Lallana. We tried few players at the left side last season and none of them have made that position his own - not like how Gerrard and Hendo have made the other positions their own. Lallana is two footed and seems intelligent which means he is versatile - tactically you should able to play him across the midfield or at the tip of the diamond. If we need a winger we might as well give Ibe a chance. He seems to be the next most ready to step up from our reserves/academy. Brendan Rodgers believes teenager Jordon Ibe has the potential to become an “outstanding” young player for Liverpool FC. He said: “He's such a talent. He's 18 years of age, still only a second year scholar. “It was interesting, I asked him to do something different here. I played him on the side in the first half, but we switched to a diamond in the second half. I wanted to see him. “It was similar to what I have done with Raheem (Sterling). I wanted to improve his football intelligence, play him in a different position. He played at the top of the diamond and he was excellent. http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/footb...tential-7122254 |
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May 15 2014, 10:57 AM
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QUOTE(hfi @ May 15 2014, 10:46 AM) I honestly have not watched him play but if he can defend as good as Arbeloa then i reckon he might be a good bet. All i want from our fullbacks next season is for them to just be able to defend when required. Attacking contribution will be icing on the cake. I get what you mean, granted a lot of those guys are attacking minded and Lallana did make it into soccernet's EPL team of the season (I think), but 30m pounds is really a lot for one good season. Scared it'll be another Carroll case.While i really rate all those players, we need to look at the areas in the team where we need strengthening. For me the main areas that requires immediate attention are the fullbacks and the left side of the mdifield. The fullback situation speaks for themselves but the left side of the midfield is why we might splash huge amount for Lallana. We tried few players at the left side last season and none of them have made that position his own - not like how Gerrard and Hendo have made the other positions their own. Lallana is two footed and seems intelligent which means he is versatile - tactically you should able to play him across the midfield or at the tip of the diamond. I do think we need better fullbacks too and one area I think we really do need strengthening is the DM department. Gerrard is good in his quarterback role, but occasionally he does lack a little discipline. I would like to have a bulldog back in that position, close down the ball and pass it to Gerrard to spray it. |
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May 15 2014, 11:00 AM
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QUOTE(boomer @ May 15 2014, 10:49 AM) Rakitic and Hamsik got zero experience in PL. Lallana on the other hand can just hit the running and go, albeit need a little time to form chemistry with players. Lallana certainly fit the profile BR is searching for, great technique, hardworking, great tactical awareness, hungry and able to provides goals & assists. |
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May 15 2014, 11:02 AM
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QUOTE(reehdus @ May 15 2014, 10:57 AM) I get what you mean, granted a lot of those guys are attacking minded and Lallana did make it into soccernet's EPL team of the season (I think), but 30m pounds is really a lot for one good season. Scared it'll be another Carroll case. Isn't that supposed to be Hendo's job though? Which is why we need Hendo's stamina and Coutinho's creativity. Also exactly why BR had Lucas slotted further forward instead of sitting back there with Stevie. Who do you suggest we take out if we were to go with another defensive midfielder? I think Coutinho's best position is in the middle as he seems to go missing sometimes on the flanks.I do think we need better fullbacks too and one area I think we really do need strengthening is the DM department. Gerrard is good in his quarterback role, but occasionally he does lack a little discipline. I would like to have a bulldog back in that position, close down the ball and pass it to Gerrard to spray it. |
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May 15 2014, 11:05 AM
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QUOTE(Cloud0890 @ May 15 2014, 10:56 AM) Brendan Rodgers believes teenager Jordon Ibe has the potential to become an “outstanding” young player for Liverpool FC. Steady!!!He said: “He's such a talent. He's 18 years of age, still only a second year scholar. “It was interesting, I asked him to do something different here. I played him on the side in the first half, but we switched to a diamond in the second half. I wanted to see him. “It was similar to what I have done with Raheem (Sterling). I wanted to improve his football intelligence, play him in a different position. He played at the top of the diamond and he was excellent. http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/footb...tential-7122254 If we can produce a Sterling every season I would be more than happy. |
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May 15 2014, 11:05 AM
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QUOTE(Cloud0890 @ May 15 2014, 11:02 AM) Isn't that supposed to be Hendo's job though? Which is why we need Hendo's stamina and Coutinho's creativity. Also exactly why BR had Lucas slotted further forward instead of sitting back there with Stevie. Who do you suggest we take out if we were to go with another defensive midfielder? I think Coutinho's best position is in the middle as he seems to go missing sometimes on the flanks. There's gonna be room for rotation with more games and we probably can't expect to keep the same personnel throughout. Hendo's suspension illustrated the lack of depth in that position. I'd think another equally gifted player as him would serve us well. |
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May 15 2014, 11:10 AM
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QUOTE(reehdus @ May 15 2014, 11:05 AM) There's gonna be room for rotation with more games and we probably can't expect to keep the same personnel throughout. Hendo's suspension illustrated the lack of depth in that position. I'd think another equally gifted player as him would serve us well. Yeah I agree we need someone of a similar mould to step in in Hendo's absence but can't see us playing TWO Hendos stifling our creativity upfront. Unless of course that player is a Yaya Toure who can do everything. |
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May 15 2014, 11:10 AM
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QUOTE(Yluxion @ May 15 2014, 11:00 AM) Rakitic and Hamsik got zero experience in PL. Lallana on the other hand can just hit the running and go, albeit need a little time to form chemistry with players. Lallana certainly fit the profile BR is searching for, great technique, hardworking, great tactical awareness, hungry and able to provides goals & assists. yes he migh have EPL experience...once the price tag pressure on his shoulder..im afraid he'll be a different player...btw player with epl experience does not guarantee success...robbie keane? i still doubt allen? downing?...hamsik is sheer class..but than again..he is gerrard to benitez's napoli |
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May 15 2014, 11:11 AM
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QUOTE(Cloud0890 @ May 15 2014, 10:56 AM) I would say Moreno is more of a attacking wingback. Very quick but not very strong, typical Spanish, which is why I'm not too convinced. Arbeloa's strength is also his ability to play on both flanks. Moreno is only comfortable with his left foot from what I've seen. Sounds like a glass cannon but i suppose those kind of players have their strengths and weaknesses. Just watched the goals against Shamrock and Ibe really impressed. Pacey, good control and vision. Sterling-esque. Definitely has a future with us and i reckon we might see more of him next season. If we need a winger we might as well give Ibe a chance. He seems to be the next most ready to step up from our reserves/academy. Brendan Rodgers believes teenager Jordon Ibe has the potential to become an “outstanding” young player for Liverpool FC. He said: “He's such a talent. He's 18 years of age, still only a second year scholar. “It was interesting, I asked him to do something different here. I played him on the side in the first half, but we switched to a diamond in the second half. I wanted to see him. “It was similar to what I have done with Raheem (Sterling). I wanted to improve his football intelligence, play him in a different position. He played at the top of the diamond and he was excellent. http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/footb...tential-7122254 QUOTE(reehdus @ May 15 2014, 10:57 AM) I get what you mean, granted a lot of those guys are attacking minded and Lallana did make it into soccernet's EPL team of the season (I think), but 30m pounds is really a lot for one good season. Scared it'll be another Carroll case. I get your meaning. There's always the fear of the Caroll repeat but i think that was an isolated transfer in the sense that we panicked and bought him at the last minute. I think it is different now because we seem to have done our homework on Lallana and have started negotiation early. This won't be a panic buy, tho it might drag on and on like some of our transfers. If we get him it is because BR has decided that he is one of the players that will improve our brand of football and having watched a bit Saints last season i can see the merit in it.I do think we need better fullbacks too and one area I think we really do need strengthening is the DM department. Gerrard is good in his quarterback role, but occasionally he does lack a little discipline. I would like to have a bulldog back in that position, close down the ball and pass it to Gerrard to spray it. |
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May 15 2014, 11:16 AM
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QUOTE(Cloud0890 @ May 15 2014, 10:42 AM) For those who have not watched it yet. Jack Dunn's finishing is amazing. http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/footb...ck-dunn-7116105 like the look of Ibe..he's got vision at a young age...players that young usually played with their head down This post has been edited by leftist: May 15 2014, 11:17 AM |
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May 15 2014, 11:19 AM
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QUOTE(Cloud0890 @ May 15 2014, 10:27 AM) The TV numbers are bound to go up as we're in the Champions League. If we can add to the squad and make deep runs in all the cup competitions, we'll be in a really good place. FSG have done a great job in bringing in cash flow. I hope that this bit of news is given more attention because fans need to know what they are doing away from the pitch. |
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May 15 2014, 11:22 AM
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QUOTE(Cloud0890 @ May 15 2014, 11:10 AM) Yeah I agree we need someone of a similar mould to step in in Hendo's absence but can't see us playing TWO Hendos stifling our creativity upfront. Unless of course that player is a Yaya Toure who can do everything. Actually I think of Hendo as a poor man's Toure...haha. he's pretty good what, defending la going forward also not bad. Yeah I see what you mean. Getting another DM would affect us going forward as we'd have to take off Hendo or Couts to accommodate him. Probably someone of rotation quality would be good enough. But I want Masssscchhh back...... QUOTE(hfi @ May 15 2014, 11:11 AM) Sounds like a glass cannon but i suppose those kind of players have their strengths and weaknesses. Just watched the goals against Shamrock and Ibe really impressed. Pacey, good control and vision. Sterling-esque. Definitely has a future with us and i reckon we might see more of him next season. Hmm I need to watch more of him play. Perhaps I'm biased because he didn't do much for my fantasy team during the late part of the season I get your meaning. There's always the fear of the Caroll repeat but i think that was an isolated transfer in the sense that we panicked and bought him at the last minute. I think it is different now because we seem to have done our homework on Lallana and have started negotiation early. This won't be a panic buy, tho it might drag on and on like some of our transfers. If we get him it is because BR has decided that he is one of the players that will improve our brand of football and having watched a bit Saints last season i can see the merit in it. |
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May 15 2014, 11:38 AM
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That's what world cup does to you. Saints had nothing to play for so unless you are competing for honors, there's no point pushing yourself and risk getting injured.
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May 15 2014, 11:52 AM
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Wow, I just noticed that everyone had forgotten about our Morocco C.Ronaldo, Assaidi. Didn't see anyone mention him like from the previous thread?
IMO, Assaidi is doing a decent job same as Borini at their loan club, so keeping both of them as back up is not a bad idea. So consider that, our wings are pretty much stable and crowded, so our priority would be striker, cm, dm, and defenders. Btw, I can't wait to see Suso back to our squad, and Ibe & Teixera both doing a great job yesterday, our future sure is bright! |
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May 15 2014, 12:19 PM
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QUOTE(AnythingK @ May 15 2014, 11:52 AM) Wow, I just noticed that everyone had forgotten about our Morocco C.Ronaldo, Assaidi. Didn't see anyone mention him like from the previous thread? We must not forget to make strategic loan out of our players to club like Sunderland, Villa, and others to indirectly hurt our rivals.... |
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May 15 2014, 12:35 PM
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I heard Lukaku is not being sold to Everton. Does Mourinho intend to keep him?
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May 15 2014, 01:10 PM
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QUOTE Watch Out! Liverpool manager Brendan Rodgers is set to wield the axe this summer, and dump a whole raft of players deemed surplus to requirements. According to The Guardian today, LFC are 'open to offers' for all of the following: - Suso - Kolo Toure - Martin Kelly - Lucas (£15m-rated) - Pepe Reina (£6m-rated) - Iago Aspas (Cost £7.7m) - Fabio Borini (Cost £11m) - Luis Alberto (Cost: £6.8m) - Daniel Agger (£15m-rated) - Oussama Assaidi (Cost £3m) - Sebastian Coates (cost £7m) To be honest, it's hard to argue with any of these players leaving the club. Indeed, five of the alleged outgoing players are Rodgers' own signings, which tells its own story. * Aspas and Alberto is a no-brainer. As I've argued all season, they're a total waste of £14m, and the club will be lucky to scrape back 50% of the combined fee. All this nonsense about Alberto being 'one for the future' is just wishful-thinking; Rodgers made a mistake, and he clearly plans to rectify it. * The same applies to Borini and Assaidi. Neither player is ever going to make it at Anfield. Borini has found his level at Sunderland, and for the sake of his career, he should stay there and player regular first-team football. Sunderland and Stoke have made it clear that they want to sign both players, so it shouldn't be a problem. * Reina leaving has been on the cards for ages, so that's no surprise. He's well and truly burned his bridges at Anfield, and it's only a matter of time now before he's gone for good. * Agger and Lucas are solid performers, but their time is up. They're relics of the Benitez era, and the team has moved on and passed them by. Neither is the player they used to be, and both are increasingly being used as squad players. It's harsh, but there's no room for sentiment. * Kelly is too injury prone, and I personally feel he's never going to cut it as a first-team regular. The only disappointment on the list is Suso. Outside of an attitude problem of some kind (for which there is zero evidence) I can't see any reason for allowing him to leave. The Spaniard has bags of talent/potential, and with the right coaching/opportunity, he could develop into a top-class attacking midfielder. It still gets my goat that Rodgers spent £7m on Alberto, and sent Suso on loan. He should've just kept Suso, and used the £7m on a different player. One of the most pointless transfers in recent years (IMO). Irrespective of what The Guardian states, it seems unlikely that Rodgers will scrap 11 players in one summer. With four competitions to compete for next season, Liverpool need to increase numbers, not drastically thin out the squad. Plus, every player who leaves will need to be replaced, and integrating multiple players into the squad at the same time is a disaster waiting to happen. Just ask Spurs. From the above list, I would keep Agger, Lucas, Suso, and (possibly) Borini as squad players, and I get the feeling that four will be fine with that. As for the rest? Sell to the highest bidder. |
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May 15 2014, 01:26 PM
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i thought we have yellow jersey in the 80's right?
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May 15 2014, 01:35 PM
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