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 4 Critical Signs of a Bubble Market V6, Signs are already there in Malaysia

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post May 22 2014, 07:56 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ May 22 2014, 07:54 PM)
actually, why is there a need to slow down? even OPR increase also such a small margin.. how can buyers and investors feels anything ? like ants bite only... like that slow di ? if economic collapse really we can see worse effect lor..

of course Zeti never meant so, but whether investors and speculators are of good capacity to withhold the slowdown and yet greedy at the same time to profit 200k and keep holding... hmm ..

message is clear.. investment will slow down, more properties will be in holding mode, now, lets see any drop out investors? hehehe...
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Zeti also got buy house. You think she'll let her own house price drop ar? brows.gif
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post May 22 2014, 07:58 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ May 22 2014, 07:57 PM)
these 2 are enough for me.. option a was never even a consideration to begin with.. so as showtime747, probably in option b... old prime areas where got feeling one bought so cheap, just merely renting for 10 years all money already back.. now just see profit less or more.. new purchase lehh and OUTSKIRT sumore lehh...
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Actually these 2 already happening in subsale I think. No?
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post May 22 2014, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ May 22 2014, 07:58 PM)
zeti house= our money, drop no drop not an issue..
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what u mean zeti house = our money? rclxub.gif
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post May 22 2014, 08:14 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ May 22 2014, 08:02 PM)
wah dangerous statement.. must confirm with agents taikor first.. got such ting or not.. i observed green terraine lu dropped lu.. developers sales leh slow slow.. surely got other drops geh..

agents can be a good reference if they were willing..
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Aiya, you are not serious buyer mah. You act serious wanna buy. Sometimes can get 10%. Some even more.

QUOTE(bearbearwong @ May 22 2014, 08:03 PM)
zeti say only want to move to new house, everybody (developer/bank ) rushed there with free house di.. understand ah?
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Sorry la. I stupid la. Please educate me. I still dun understand.
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post May 23 2014, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(chinhooi8 @ May 23 2014, 11:41 AM)
With all the new supplies coming in, is there rental demand especially with those high prices = high rental?

I think an oversupply of new property in Klang Valley likely to take place.

E.g. Bandar SUnway (PJS 10) - Past 2 year, there are 4 new condos. Another 3 more on the way.

Already, I see so many advertisements for rental.
Wonder what is the take-up rate?
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I already said that rental yield is not the target. My empty RM700k condo can be sold for RM1.4million in 2018. I don't mind left empty until 2018. thumbup.gif
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post May 23 2014, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ May 23 2014, 11:49 AM)
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Who cares about negative rental yield anyway. If I rent out, my property might be damaged. I rather holding empty apartment. icon_idea.gif
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post May 23 2014, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(timesrun @ May 23 2014, 12:11 PM)
Slowly ya.. u.. keep ur condo till you old...  laugh.gif  No one need your condo  icon_rolleyes.gif
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My condo in prime area. Dun pray pray flex.gif
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post May 23 2014, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(timesrun @ May 23 2014, 12:15 PM)
Aiyo..condo only ga.... me got bungalow also haven talk anything  laugh.gif    whistling.gif
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aiya, banglo target market small la.

Me condo. GenX Y target. rclxms.gif big market

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post May 23 2014, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(jolokia @ May 23 2014, 02:40 PM)
Tipu la. China government lots of money. Straight absorb all property. Nei chui meh? laugh.gif
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post May 23 2014, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ May 23 2014, 03:25 PM)
i will try chui you.. blewwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
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Believe. Although many people say China die, I don't think so lor. China is damn rich.

So there's no crisis.

So no crisis, no property crash.

So no property crash, Malaysia property like KL/Penang/JB will rise above affordability.

I think need 2 generation of family to afford.

We are lucky we got a few properties now.

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post May 23 2014, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ May 23 2014, 03:43 PM)
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Not going to buy more?
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Well, I heard people say property price collapse this or next year. So I'm waiting to get more bro rclxms.gif
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post May 23 2014, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(gtfan @ May 23 2014, 04:01 PM)
Condo even worst. Those bought in bulks by investor club and later slowly sell to real buyer. Well, it's business as long as there is demand and penned up bull purchases.
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Yeap, its commodity. You no buy, I buy. Chui meh? biggrin.gif
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post May 23 2014, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(YuenZhao @ May 23 2014, 04:13 PM)
U ppl are so funny, arguing on GDP etc
But how does that explain why developers want to increase price and rent? Is Malaysia going to face recession soon?
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Nope. Malaysia won't face recession. Malaysia achieve unprecedented growth rate of 6.7% almost match China one. So no way Malaysia drop into recession.

From what I see, doubling of house price from the current price is achievable in 2018.

In 2018, not more RM700psf. All condo will start with RM1000psf.
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post May 23 2014, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(cfa28 @ May 23 2014, 04:17 PM)
There are strong correlation between Property Prices and GDP.

There is also correlation between Recessions and Property Bubble burst

Do you think that Malaysia GDP can be positive forever?

Regional and International economic outlook is not exactly very rosy right now sister.
Not only that, DSL in Kajang will be > RM1 mln
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Not true. China is going to have crazy grow again:-

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What China Property Crash? Analysts See Boost To Growth
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PIC: ReutersPIC: ReutersHONG KONG: China’s biggest homebuilding slump in at least four years isn’t enough to dissuade a majority of economists from predicting real estate will still contribute to 2014 growth. Property controls will be eased, they said in a Bloomberg News survey.

While 12 of 18 economists say China has some national oversupply of housing, only seven say the market is in a bubble state countrywide, according to the survey conducted from May 15 to May 20. Half see bubbles in some cities, and a majority says the loosening of restrictions on home purchases and loans will be limited to a regional level.

New construction has fallen 22 per cent and sales have slumped 7.8 per cent this year, testing the government’s four- year commitment to curbs targeted at making homes more affordable and its reluctance to enact broader economic stimulus. The slowdown’s depth will have implications for everything from demand for Australian iron ore to land sales that help local governments repay their US$3 trillion (RM9.6 trillion) of debt.

“China won’t fully lose the engine, but the engine will roar less than in the past and will be a more moderate supporter for growth,” said Louis Kuijs, Royal Bank of Scotland Group Plc’s chief Greater China economist in Hong Kong, who formerly worked at the World Bank.

Central bank Governor Zhou Xiaochuan said China may have housing bubbles in some cities, an issue that’s difficult to resolve with a single nationwide policy. The economy “can still manage something around a 7.5 per cent growth rate,” Zhou said in an interview in Rwanda yesterday, referring to the nation’s expansion target for 2014.


QUOTE(cfa28 @ May 23 2014, 04:17 PM)
Not only that, DSL in Kajang will be > RM1 mln
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Yes!!! Two generation buying a house will be reality soon icon_rolleyes.gif
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post May 23 2014, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(value_investor @ May 23 2014, 04:21 PM)
Then my rm1.2 mil condo property can be rm2.4 by then? Naive dreamers, many ppl like him haven't played property above rm1 mil haven't realized the reality. Those that double over the years are those middle cost condos. You will notice most condos above rm1 mil haven't moved a notched in years.
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Don't worry. Expat will come buy. rclxms.gif
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post May 23 2014, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ May 23 2014, 04:47 PM)
dont you see the problem.. develoeprs are using these skills to try sell off their properties, at price lower, now the speculators/flippers with that price plans to flip higher price and try to dispose to other ppl with HIGHER PRICE..
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Thanks to sui yi, my condo price is higher and higher. Gotta love sui yi.
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post May 23 2014, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(gtfan @ May 23 2014, 04:50 PM)
If you look at current launches of service apt, condos by developers, most of them are selling future prices...vp in 2017 or 2018.

An eg. along jalan ampang, mah sing with their mcity phase 3, selling at rm1.2k per sq ft. They are banking on future mrt line coming to ampang while hampshire (still can get below rm1k psf) and even menara 328 launches at rm900 psf.

Everyone is selling on future pricing. So, comes 2017 and 2018, well hopefully, the bull is still running and people still huat at rm1.5k psf for out of klcc rings.
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I dun see any crisis to pop the bubble. Do you see any?
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post May 24 2014, 05:10 AM

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QUOTE(value_investor @ May 24 2014, 02:38 AM)
I buy for own stay so it doesn't matter about the return. Even if it drops i don't care, i treat it just like my other depreciating mercedes benz car. Because i don't need to make money from speculating properties. Unfortunately, 80% of the properties in Malaysia now are not of investment grade.
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You are right if you look at rental yield. But it is capital appreciation investment grade if you look at how many suiyi in the market. You never know bro. Sui Yi born every hour.

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post May 24 2014, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(espano @ May 24 2014, 12:42 PM)
Bubble will only occur when this thread is closed and no one is expecting a bubble or pop or whatever it is. slowly..... the black swan arises.....

As long as we are looking for the black swan it will never appear. It will only appear when no one is looking for it.

Just like all the financial crisis before this.
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Fuiyoh... very enlightened bro
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post May 26 2014, 09:47 AM

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As long as Sui Yi prop up the property price, no need to think about property drop price.

Let's hope all water fish will swim enthusiastically to us until 2018.

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