Bursa Traders V5
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 Oct 14 2014, 09:37 PM
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QUOTE(Hanifah H. @ Oct 14 2014, 09:33 PM) Which one is faster/responsive in your opinion? Both Jupiter and Kenanga is using same platform.Have you ever tried iTrade?  So both is as fast. Which means, it's up to you to choose which one is suitable for you. I do use iTrade. However, my trades there is so limited. Maybe once a year.  Why? Just not so comfy for me personally. |
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Oct 14 2014, 10:16 PM
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#902
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QUOTE(wayne84 @ Oct 14 2014, 09:52 PM) Put emotion aside is very important...like SKpetro ...haiz...no eye see I wouldn't that.  EVERYTHING will depend on HOW GOOD THE STOCK you will be holding and hopefully, you did not overpay for it. The danger in just putting emotions aside is that one will run the risk of holding onto a stock in regardless of whether the reason to buy the stock was reasonable in the first place. It means one run the risk of stubbornly holding onto lousy stock picks. |
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Oct 14 2014, 10:21 PM
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QUOTE(wayne84 @ Oct 14 2014, 10:13 PM) Nope. I hold SKPetro mainly because of their strong fundamental & earning on few quarter ahead. I would agree.Need not worry too much as this time SKPetro price drop mainly due to ppl's perception on crude oil price drop vs foreign fund pull off. See this article : http://www.theedgemarkets.com/my/article/a...nge-unjustified Not all O&G are the same. And actually at current prices, perhaps there is some justification to go for SKPetro. This article is good read: http://www.cnbc.com/id/102078976?utm_sourc..._medium=twitter |
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Oct 14 2014, 10:32 PM
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QUOTE(wayne84 @ Oct 14 2014, 10:23 PM) So what will you do boon3.... will you hold share like Skpetro at this moment ? My entry price is 3.80.... The one thing I can do is give direct personal advice leh.... I am not an adviser. But what I will say is... no matter what happens (in the near future).... do you think you can learn from this experience? for example... if SKPetro drops further ( err... IF la)..... would you say your entry at 3.80 was rather rash? ie... do you think that perhaps you could improve on your buying? |
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Oct 14 2014, 10:34 PM
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QUOTE(twhong_91 @ Oct 14 2014, 10:21 PM) thanks for ur input boon, appreciated. Try to learn from this.currently holding 2 O&G companies, the global oil price been declining. sui lo. Look at the stocks you are holding..... ask yourself if there is anywhere you could have done better?  |
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Oct 14 2014, 10:51 PM
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QUOTE(wayne84 @ Oct 14 2014, 10:37 PM) Yeah..perhaps eye not sharp enough...and timming tarak jun enough..hahahaha I do not do timing.  When you said 3.80, you probably bought SKPet on this day and you were looking at this   Not sure about you but based on the chart, I do not think that 3.80 was a good entry point. Nothing indicated the stock will turn... And for me I do not even know where the exit point is if I enter at 3.80. Said the following this morning.... QUOTE Write this down...... Were you thinking that perhaps SKPet had already fallen a lot and that SKPet might do a 'V' turn up .... soon?In a falling market.... stop trying to guess where and when the stock will make the 'V' turn up. |
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Oct 14 2014, 10:58 PM
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QUOTE(twhong_91 @ Oct 14 2014, 10:51 PM) i dont understand le boon  For example... say you are holding..... ABC.... and now the stock ..... has fallen a lot............. well.... why don't you ask yourself...... how and why you are stuck with stock ABC ? Was ABC the right stock pick? Or did you enter ABC at the wrong price? That smart wise man once said.... To improve is to keep on changing. (right?) Well to be perfect then.....all we need to do is to keep on changing. |
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Oct 14 2014, 11:12 PM
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QUOTE(wayne84 @ Oct 14 2014, 11:07 PM) Actually wan to collect skpetro since long time...but price seems high..see some resistant at 3.8x...too happy and entry..hahaha..but i can hold much longer.. I can see where you are company from. You probably see up the company's potential. ... and then .... you see.... I am a trader. ... which means... my thinking is different.... for me..... BUYING is rather important. BUYING correct will solve most of a trader's problems. |
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Oct 14 2014, 11:38 PM
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QUOTE(spring onion @ Oct 14 2014, 11:26 PM) teach us some buying skill... I got no skill one laaaa......so far you mentioned that buying during breakout - however. if you buy during breakout, there 2 times which will be not really suitable to do so 1) usually market will gap up in the morning if dow jones sentimental is good, gap down if the opposite. therefore buying in the morning may actually may not be the best buy, there is some margin of profit being absorbed 2) buy before the market stops at 5. this is tricky as well. buy stocks which have a breakout in the late afternoon have the tendancy to be gaped down if dow jones are bad later the in late evening ( malaysia time) however the advantages of buying before the market stop is that we are able to pickup some pretty good deal from those contra players. but if we were to buy with a breakout may seems is a bad idea, this only works well at bottom fishing p/s : You do realise that our market do not follow Dow Jones all the time? |
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Oct 15 2014, 12:19 AM
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QUOTE(spring onion @ Oct 14 2014, 11:39 PM) do not follow if dowjones were +-0.5 'usually'..... not same as 'all the time' movement like 1 or 2% usually will follow Anyway, I have seen far too many times before contradictory movements to know never to make a trade based solely on Dow movements. It's never a sure win strategy.  |
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Oct 15 2014, 09:55 AM
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QUOTE(wankongyew @ Oct 15 2014, 09:35 AM) Yeah, O & G companies are in a bad place right now. I think it's a rather bandwagon analysis la.... http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...yers/?style=biz Yes, there's a likelyhood that future earnings 'might' fall but then when you put into consideration the magnitude of fall most O&G had already 'suffered'.... in my opinion... it's simply a rash bandwagon analysis.... as it is... in my opinion... the market has already more than priced in the potential shortfall in future earnings from the O&G stocks. just my opinion la.... they are the pro la.... not me... |
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Oct 16 2014, 06:36 PM
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QUOTE(johnnyzai89 @ Oct 16 2014, 02:59 PM) maybe Boon is selling all his shares Drag me into the water meh? Sorry la I do not broadcast what I sell or buy. |
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Oct 16 2014, 06:38 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 14 2014, 10:27 AM) Write this down...... In a falling market.... stop trying to guess where and when the stock will make the 'V' turn up. |
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Oct 17 2014, 08:07 AM
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QUOTE(hehe86 @ Oct 16 2014, 11:43 PM) Market news driven again eh Well what's important for you???So i have a dilemma here. Based on FA, there's good company that is becoming cheap. One can buy in stages or even average down Based on TA, not yet boy, not yet. So how?  Isn't that the most important question for yourself. You need to play your best game in the shark market. Therefor, you really need to know what is important for your game. That's all to it. So what do you want? Do you want to be a collector of cheap stocks? or do you want to be in the stock simply cos you feel the stock should move up??? p/s whatever happen to your friend? Yea... that one... called.... TREND? |
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Oct 17 2014, 10:06 AM
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QUOTE(hehe86 @ Oct 17 2014, 10:01 AM) Haha. Ish ish ish. When market down, easily many bad news came out and so is vice versa lo. That's why i said TA is a no no still. But recently doing homework on FA, seems interesting ma. Don't know who's poison leh. Haram mia "smack his head" J/k somebody is improving.............................. |
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Oct 17 2014, 11:22 AM
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QUOTE(hehe86 @ Oct 17 2014, 10:47 AM) more confusing ada la Masih rugi bang. Lol! .... but I guess you are feeling a whole lot better! If the stock was shooting up... would you fast fast sell?  If the stock was falling down... should you fast fast buy?  |
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Oct 17 2014, 11:43 AM
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QUOTE(hehe86 @ Oct 17 2014, 11:32 AM)  Feeling better or not i'm not sure. A bit confuse definitely. Lol But the scenario i'm facing now, after knowing some FA, some stocks are shouting "hey there mate, i'm damn cheap right now!" The temptation to average down on previous support is definitely there. =.=" Guess i have to ask/find out myself to set which priority better. Guess most likely i go for TA first, FA 2nd. Lol No doubt. But then..... don't you confuse yourself on SIAPA YOU. |
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Oct 17 2014, 04:42 PM
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QUOTE(hehe86 @ Oct 17 2014, 04:23 PM) Fuh yoh, INARI chart super nice lo. |
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Oct 21 2014, 07:34 PM
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QUOTE(hehe86 @ Oct 17 2014, 04:23 PM) Fuh yoh, INARI chart super nice lo. How?Is this thread going to enter PN 17 already? Tell me... any lessons to be learnt from the past couple weeks? |
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Oct 21 2014, 11:11 PM
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QUOTE(CP88 @ Oct 21 2014, 09:26 PM) Be Fearful When Others Are Greedy and Greedy When Others Are Fearful? That's actually one bad advice. Why? It always, always, always lead to one buying too early. Best example? Inari. I believe many started buying once it hit 2.70....... They thought they were being greedy... and others simply sold .... cos they were takut. then.... they can only watch.... as Inari fell and fell.................. Then Inari fell to 2.50...... WOW! Seems like super bargain... They started thinking..... those people... scared until pants fall out.... so they be greedy again.... what happen next? Mind telling me... how low Inari fell BEFORE it rebounded? |
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