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post Sep 29 2014, 08:19 AM

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QUOTE(felixmask @ Sep 28 2014, 11:57 PM)
you don't need to talk...our Boon3 will you free course how he see at the company.

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Stock forum la...
talk stocks la dei....... tongue.gif
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post Sep 29 2014, 08:22 AM

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QUOTE(hehe86 @ Sep 29 2014, 12:47 AM)
laugh.gif valid breakout eh? Gratz holders

As usual, ayam lari again for me rclxub.gif

During that breakout, when i saw the bid is at 0.845, hence i queue there, but too bad it never reach me though got ppl throw at that price. Next few days i waited for 0.845-0.855 but 0.855 at bid is the cheapest. Haha, so saddist. If only i could monitor the whole movement throughout the day =.="
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Breakout la dei.....

if 85 is also your breakout point....
what is 855 or 86 or 87? hmm.gif

Having said that...
for this one....
IF i had wanted to...
I would have gotten it much lower (as explained b4) ..... tongue.gif
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post Sep 29 2014, 08:34 AM

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QUOTE(hehe86 @ Sep 29 2014, 12:48 AM)
Speaking of one-off profit/unjustified profit like Scientix/Fitters,


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It's NOT one off. tongue.gif

These 2 companies...
they are what you called diversified or.... ROJAK.
they own different kind of business...
and one of them is property development....
in which....
as you would have seen...
profits from it is much more than profit from their other business....

and because it's mixed....
u don't see these companies trade at much higher PE multiples such as over 25x.
Can you imagine the price of Scientex at 25x pe?

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post Sep 29 2014, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(CP88 @ Sep 29 2014, 09:27 AM)
I don understand. I thought we will buy once 85 broken. But you mentioned will got it much lower?  rclxub.gif

Mind to elaborate? icon_rolleyes.gif
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Already posted before laaaaaaaaaaaaa......

charts also post couple of times also.......

read back la..... it's there.
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post Sep 29 2014, 12:54 PM

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Forgot what purple means already. tongue.gif
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post Sep 29 2014, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(hehe86 @ Sep 29 2014, 12:47 AM)

As usual, ayam lari again for me rclxub.gif
See if you cannot monitor the market a lot....
you again... is giving a handicap to others lor... tongue.gif

Better readjust the game play...
maybe breakouts not for you.

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Sometimes if you monitor ....
you can guess guess one........

what you need to know is...

1) the happy family ruling.

LOL!

See today.. many going hoo hoo.... walao walao... on SKPRES
some crying that they are missing out...

But is this ayam a hard to catch ayam?

Actually NO.

Firstly....

there's this stock....
called TECNIC....
it was just around 3.90+ around 18/9
Today?
5 bucks.

LOL!

The first question... what happy family does it belong to? Does it have a happy family?

Answer?

It does....

Plastics....

That's the key.

So if you are really serious into trading (and this again, knowing fundamentals helps)....

well... plastics.... lower oil rite? does it help?
weakening ringgit... does it help?

And then...
TECNIC's recent profits?
Were they GOOD or LOUSY?

Simply fundamental issues...
Not say asking you ROE, ROCE, CAGR, blah blah blah......

So TECNIC has been moving strongly....
not much reaction among others right?
the chain gang was senyap saje.....

so it might be a one off...

but... if you look briefly...
say a member fav...
like SKPRES...
penny stock...
quite liked by many.....

so you see the chart.....
what see?
range bound...
not much volume....
Best to watch, yes?

Breakout of the range...
and it means showtime........

Today.... 63... like can... right?

This type of ayam not hard to catch, right?

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post Sep 29 2014, 08:00 PM

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QUOTE(hehe86 @ Sep 29 2014, 04:21 PM)
hmm.gif i have a question. How do you know TECNIC and SKPRES both are selling plastics?

One way that i can think of is, i found a good chart through top gainer, let say TECNIC. Then i find the same stocks under Industrial Products. Then i go through one by one to find which other company is selling plastic too?
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Actually there are other companies in plastic related industry.
For example: Mah Sing also (but no one cares anymore cos for Mah Sing, property is now their main business)
Thong Guan
SLP Resources
Daibochi
Tomypak
etc etc .....

How know?
Err.... doing a lot of research over the years help a lot. tongue.gif
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post Sep 29 2014, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(XCloudz @ Sep 29 2014, 05:44 PM)
TECNIC and SKPRES both suspended from trading around 4:57pm today.
Something good is coming? Aquisition?
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Saw.
No idea what's happening.
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post Sep 29 2014, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(wenqing @ Sep 29 2014, 07:59 PM)
Homeritz shareholder transfer share again. transfer 1 time goreng 1 time?hahaha
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today homer...
night also homer...


why so like that?

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Big money in the waiting hor................................... tongue.gif
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post Sep 29 2014, 10:30 PM

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QUOTE(hehe86 @ Sep 29 2014, 04:11 PM)

Recently banyak ayam lari, i sudah biasa already lo lol. Basic FA sudah got start implement ma, will ask question time to time eh, laugh.gif
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Time to inject more poison again....

UNINTENTIONALLY..... lol .... if you believe me.... tongue.gif tongue.gif

this one just pop out in front of me again...



question again... for you.... what did you or did not do after the first decent pullback after the strong run..... question asked post #2303

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vs today's updated chart.

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post Sep 29 2014, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(wenqing @ Sep 29 2014, 10:38 PM)
This one I got aim.But run so hiong. Miss it. cry.gif  cry.gif
Coz my portfolio only homer got movement mah.No talk this wan talk what?hahaha
You don't have Ah La Lat meh?

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p/s USD getting rather high against the RM.

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post Sep 30 2014, 06:27 AM

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QUOTE(spring onion @ Sep 29 2014, 11:26 PM)
this boon must be earning big bangs by putting his bet on it
damn..... while i only can afford an ipad air.... oh wait, still need to top up rm400 for it too sad.gif
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You keep working on it....
Soon be your turn!!!!
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post Sep 30 2014, 06:30 AM

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QUOTE(Suicidal Guy @ Sep 29 2014, 11:37 PM)
Ah Boon.. I'm taking a shot at this..  tongue.gif

you would buy before the breakout because others stocks in the same business had a strong run up but homer not yet?? homer cash is piling up, it's not a asset intensive business so expecting cash to be returned to shareholders via special dividend? when dividend increase, market will correct the price of homer??
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That's pretty good reasoning.

Just remember the 'expecting' is just 'speculating'

And most important be open about it and understand one can always be wrong.
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post Sep 30 2014, 06:32 AM

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QUOTE(hehe86 @ Sep 29 2014, 11:55 PM)
Yeap i knew Mahsing for its property

Daibochi i thought is the food right?
Tomypak is the packaging like Boxpak?

Now i know why i don't have all those stocks because there's no volume on them =.="

brows.gif research/homework will never be enough in stock market eh. Almost can learn something everyday in them

Edit: quick look on those stocks you mentioned doesn't show much movement (DAI,TOMY,TGUAN except SLP)? So i don't think i would not have spotted SKPRES and TECNIC in anyway before today's closing.
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Yes, Dai and Tomy is in the food but it's the plastic packaging for food.

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post Sep 30 2014, 07:29 AM

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QUOTE(hehe86 @ Sep 30 2014, 12:02 AM)
Aiyo, what i did not do? Did not save this chart in my watchlist lo as you know low volume hence i didn't save it =.=

What did i do? I remember i try to implement my FA on it. Let me see. I used i3investor website to check its financial. Quick look on its TTM, with PE10x, its current price is not cheap already ya? Another way i think i calculated is its last 2 quarter total EPS times 2, with PE 10x, below 2 so didn't bother much already lo

Please do note i do this very brief since its low volume doesn't attract me too much haha.

Feel free to bombard as always LOL

Edit: Wa mau breakout d ar IQ? Haha
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Remember...
Sometimes we use TTM and sometimes we need to compare it versus annualised earnings.
If we don't do this, we might miss out the big winners in turnaround stocks.
And we also compare the TTM numbers against previous years numbers...ie...we check the growth (common sense, yes?)
Growth means company making more money.
And making more money means the company is doing something good.
If no growth, what's your common sense thinking about the company?

Therefor, do look again at IQ numbers.
See if you see potential or not.

Low volume stocks can change one.
No?
It's like bad stock can be good stock yes?
The change in trading pattern (volume) indicates a different stock... yes?

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post Sep 30 2014, 07:31 AM

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QUOTE(hehe86 @ Sep 30 2014, 12:13 AM)
Speaking of breakout (or almost), TAMBUN, MPHBCAP, VITROX and of course HOMERIZ? laugh.gif
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For happy family, I would pair Vitrox with Elsoft.

Whar do you see now?
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post Sep 30 2014, 08:43 AM

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QUOTE(spring onion @ Sep 29 2014, 11:39 PM)
don't think they will give back money to shareholders.... for what??? they will use keep the money and use it for rainy days better biggrin.gif
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Yes, they would not give it all back to the shareholders....

BUT ..... if you do some research......

For FY 2012, it paid a final dividend of 2.25 sen.
For FY 2013, it paid a final dividend again BUT did you know that the dividend was increased to 2.75 sen.

Based on past history PLUS the fact the company's profit had increased substantially and most importantly, cash balances has also increased tremendously, so therefor, you can not fault a speculator from speculating that the company might give out a much better final dividend.

Yes, key word is speculate.... or ....... GAMBLE..... or BET!

LOL!

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It's the shark market laaa.....
everyone (yes, including investors) is betting on something...... tongue.gif tongue.gif
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post Sep 30 2014, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(johnnyzai89 @ Sep 30 2014, 09:19 AM)
Elsoft already have movement right?

Still very new at charts
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Yes, exactly.

Sometimes (some might say very often rolleyes.gif ) stocks moves in pairs...
ie it's a game of happy family in the shark market.

One moves and most likely the other would move also.

RISK here?

everything got risk one laaaa........ forget this not.

RISK is that we could get our pairings wrong...
or sometimes.... it is just wrong. laugh.gif


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post Sep 30 2014, 09:32 AM

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QUOTE(johnnyzai89 @ Sep 30 2014, 09:28 AM)
hahaha will keep an eye for that!

thanks!

Will keep an eye for pairings in the same sector from now on smile.gif
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Many type of pairings hor....

we recently had the Robert Tan pairings.... ie stocks he owns....

and sometimes.....
we can get wild stuff....

for example, recently .... the wild movement in PDZ (yeah... all the stuff really face palm when we think of it) ..... we saw Pelaburan Mara become...
sort of a HERO.... LOL!... made good money .... from their 'investment' in PDZ....
so naturally...
some smartie pants would declare ....
it's wise to just follow what they buy.
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It might work...
BUT.... let me say this....
better evaluate your risk hor.....

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post Sep 30 2014, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(johnnyzai89 @ Sep 30 2014, 09:31 AM)
Btw any thoughts on Health care sector?

Is it a long term stock?

IHH, KPJ
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you can have two actually...

IHH and KPJ would be like the hospital stocks.....
and then you have pharmaceutical stocks like Pharmaniaga, Apex Healthcare etc....

know the sector leader is important...
and this is where you need to know your FUNDAMENTALS....
know why which stock is leading....
and which stock is lagging.

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