QUOTE(CP88 @ Jul 8 2014, 05:56 PM)
Huh???Car timing belt?
Car timing = you wait and time when walk car....
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Jul 8 2014, 07:29 PM
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Jul 8 2014, 11:40 PM
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so ah boon, since you are so free let's talk wind abit.
what do you think property sector will do in this second half of 2014? property launch are in everywhere, trying to promote to investors many do think it will slow down but bubble is unlikely to happen, while others say home is a necessity so it will still continue to grow, so based on Malaysia's malaysians median salary and demand, what will be the outlook for the property market? p/s: working day and night to earn extra income so may read or reply your post late sei lo, djia down almost 1% today, tomorrow will be bloody red day This post has been edited by spring onion: Jul 8 2014, 11:51 PM |
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Jul 8 2014, 11:55 PM
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QUOTE(spring onion @ Jul 8 2014, 11:40 PM) so ah boon, since you are so free let's talk wind abit. So late..me cannot tahan jor.what do you think property sector will do in this second half of 2014? property launch are in everywhere, trying to promote to investors many do think it will slow down but bubble is unlikely to happen, while others say home is a necessity so it will still continue to grow, so based on Malaysia's malaysians median salary and demand, what will be the outlook for the property market? p/s: working day and night to earn extra income so may read or reply your post late Need to sleep. My beauty time with Uncle Chow. I see Elsoft.. so geng. Good for you la. Property? Dunno la..me no such expert. All I do know is prices damn expensive yet. Will buyers accept and pay these high prices? I dunno........ Later dude...... |
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Jul 9 2014, 12:09 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 8 2014, 11:55 PM) So late..me cannot tahan jor. elsoft i no buy la, miss the boat, where got so much money buy this buy that? you rest la... forum no time limit 1Need to sleep. My beauty time with Uncle Chow. I see Elsoft.. so geng. Good for you la. Property? Dunno la..me no such expert. All I do know is prices damn expensive yet. Will buyers accept and pay these high prices? I dunno........ Later dude...... |
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Jul 9 2014, 03:38 PM
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Jul 9 2014, 03:51 PM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Jul 9 2014, 03:38 PM) Morning is good. |
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Jul 9 2014, 03:55 PM
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Jul 9 2014, 03:57 PM
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Jul 9 2014, 06:29 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 8 2014, 11:38 AM) Trading vs Investing This sounded like some investors use excuses to stay waiting till the day profits come while traders are being cautious because of the fear. We can divide people's stock market activities neatly into two separate disciplines - trading and investing. Starting with a few dollars, Jesse Livermore became one of the world's richest men by trading (or speculation as he called it). He bought stocks with a view to selling them for a capital profit. He had no intention of obtaining an income from dividends or holding on to stocks for the long term: this is investing. One of the big dangers in stock trading, he said, is when a trade goes wrong and the trader decides to hold a stock until things "come right." In doing so, the trader breaks one of the cardinal rules of successful trading, which is: Don't become an Involuntary Investor "How often have you heard an investor say: 'I don't have to worry about fluctuations or margin calls? I never speculate. When I buy stocks, I buy them for an investment, and if they go down, eventually they will come back.'" However, Livermore says, "It would be simple to run down the list of hundreds of stocks which, in my time, have been considered gilt-edge investments, and which today are worth little or nothing. Thus, great investments tumble, and with them the fortunes of so-called investors..." Livermore liked to remind people that there is nothing new in Wall Street. Whatever happens in the stock market today has happened before and will happen again. A large number of modern-day investors will certainly nod their heads ruefully when reading his thoughts from the 1920s on great investments tumbling. In Livermore's opinion, investing using a buy and hold strategy was a bigger gamble than trading. Buy and hold investors, he said, "make a bet, stay with it, and if it goes wrong, they lose it all." A trader, on the other hand, might buy the same stock at the same time as the investor. "But if he is an intelligent speculator, he will recognize - if he keeps records - the danger signal warning him all is not well. He will, by acting promptly, hold his losses to a minimum and await a more favourable opportunity to re-enter the market." Of course, a stubborn-minded buy and hold investor might sleep more easily in bed at night than a more active trader. Even though his stocks are performing poorly, he has an (often misplaced) unshakeable certainly that they will one day make him a good profit. Traders, however, are under no such illusions and take a more active interest in their holdings. They are therefore at greater risk of being attacked by what Livermore described as the trader's natural foes - no, not faith, hope and charity - but greed, hope and fear. Livermore's views on hope and fear lie at the heart of successful trading. He describes how traders fail when they allow hope of recovery to prevent them cutting their losses. They fail when fear of losing a small profit causes them to sell prematurely, when more profit would have been available if only they had the nerve to stick with the trend. "The speculator's chief enemies are always boring from within. It is inseparable from human nature to hope and to fear. In speculation, when the market goes against you, you hope that every day will be the last day-and you lose more than you should had you not listened to hope... "And when the market goes your way you become fearful that the next day will take away your profit, and you get out-too soon. Fear keeps you from making as much money as you ought to. The successful trader has to fight these two deep-seated instincts. He has to reverse what you might call his natural impulses. "Instead of hoping he must fear; instead of fearing he must hope. He must fear that his loss may develop into a much bigger loss, and hope that his profit may become a big profit." Is Trading for You? If you can trade intelligently and control your emotions during trades, you have a good chance of success. If you can't, you'll almost certainly fail and you would be advised to avoid trading altogether. "Investments are often held for a period of years, or even decades, taking advantage of perks like interest, dividends and stock splits along the way. While markets inevitably fluctuate, investors will "ride out" the downtrends with the expectation that prices will rebound and any losses will eventually be recovered." "Trading, on the other hand, involves the more frequent buying and selling of stock, commodities, currency pairs or other instruments, with the goal of generating returns that outperform buy-and-hold investing." "Where buy-and-hold investors wait out less profitable positions, traders must make profits (or take losses) within a specified period of time, and often use a protective stop loss order to automatically close out losing positions at a predetermined price level. " Trading does make more sense here because waiting a stock price to rebound does sound like making empty wish sometimes especially when someone is making a mistake yet does not admit it. You did mention that trading can be done in a long term, position trader? I started off by reading coldeye's books from dad and he emphasized the need to invest in a very long term period to get the fruit. I know that you too told me to know my style, that's why I'm reading blogs, websites, do paper tradings and equip myself aka know my style before to join the war. However, I think that I'm still wandering in the thick fog. |
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Jul 9 2014, 11:10 PM
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Jul 10 2014, 12:21 AM
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Malaysiakini via KiniBiz
12 mins · BREAKING: CIMB, MBSB, RHB request for trading suspension; merger rumours abound http://www.kinibiz.com/story/markets/94973...er-rumours.html Hmmm, what happen ah ? |
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Jul 10 2014, 09:52 AM
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Jul 10 2014, 11:27 AM
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So sad, HOMERIZ always no power while glove counters, for example, flying again.
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Jul 10 2014, 11:37 AM
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Jul 10 2014, 11:40 AM
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E&O, naik naik naik
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Jul 10 2014, 04:20 PM
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Jul 10 2014, 04:47 PM
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Jul 10 2014, 08:05 PM
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Jul 10 2014, 08:07 PM
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QUOTE(jonchai @ Jul 10 2014, 08:05 PM) QUOTE(andrekua2) Long time no see... I sendiri jadi freezer stock Pigi mana? Tengok World Cup di Brazil? No choice lo, have to jadi kuli, no time come here talk 3 talk 4 .... Mainly talk 3 with Boon Only sorhai who keep inventories like us kena. |
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