shortest distance on each tube.

well that is a pretty good setup loop config actually.

btw whats ure gc temps like?? post some heaven screenshot ( F12, TGA converter to PNG)?? on max oc??

Ezzy is on the distro side of the business. APES is their retail outlet. He is still there


btw will be ordering some hwlab rads direct. SR-1's atm very cheap.
So anybody needs just tell me. Will be doing payment on monday.

for the price its dirt cheap for sr-1's

Follow the terminal bridge instruction on parellel n serial based on what you ordered.

http://www.ekwb.com/shop/EK-IM/EK-IM-3831109868102.pdf

Yeah he did it wrongly. Most probably his block flowrate n liquid spread will be uneven on the gpu part

This post has been edited by cstkl1: Jul 21 2014, 07:41 PM

Just suprise nobody wants hwlabs when they are kicking the monstas with their new nemesis.

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This not cheaper but shipping is.

some fun facts. Hwlabs are not china made. Hwlabs are the only cpu watercooling radiator based company. The rest are oem's made in china.Not sure about aqua tube thingy though. Their Rad's flowrates are awesome.



take note this is just gts 240 not even the gtx. Nemesis series.

This post has been edited by cstkl1: Jul 21 2014, 08:06 PM

flow dude. its a bad idea.. they are doing from VRM to GPU. Reverse flow and going against the pin design.
Pretty sure their temps wont be as good .

when they put it at the left side to bottom right.. flow diagram will be 1/2 flowrate goes to first with another 1/2 going to second gpu.
heat coming out of vrm gpu 1 to combine with gpu 2 vrm output to exit the terminal block.

btw is that ure rig??

Y u cannot use a SR1?/

what is ure current rad?

flow dude. Radiator works opposite to Blocks. Radiator works best and low flow. So hence the no ppl doing Pump to Rad is major epicness of not understanding rad and misconception of thermal equilibrium. Hence having the rads at the end always is awesome for single pump.

Hence y some ppl clock better than the other. Hence y some ppl aircooling beats a lot of ppl watercooling.

1. 1 unit SR1 560 $125.50
2. 1 unit SR1 280 $83.10
3. 1 unit SR1 140 $46.90
4. 1 unit SR1 120 $39.90

Shipping about USD 7-8 per rad...minimum USD28.... Fedex.

etc. SR-1 design is bigger tubes. It scales well on fan RPM also but not as good as Nemesis GTX design which is low RPM with scalability on High RPM. Basically kills all rads.

but with the price drop of the SR-1.. its too cheap atm.

Afaik old GTS 120 was 250 watts and GTX Extreme 120 was 350 watts. How Nemesis gts120 is 350 and GTX is 450watts.

errr..

ok its like this one ure running a single pump. Ure main focus is to understand Pressure and Flowrate is inverse to Pressure. Pressure in this sense will be the distance the water travels.

Ure current one is giving CPU priority but the top rad is not getting enough time to cool the water while it is killing flowrate. Ure gpu needs flowrate rather than cooler water.

Hence best always is Pump to Cpu to GPU 1/2 ( parellel/serial same) to Radiator to Res to Pump. Heatdump from pump is nonsense.



This post has been edited by cstkl1: Jul 21 2014, 10:22 PM

Suggestion:

with acrylic u can make this look nice. Do Pump to GPU to CPU ( use the parellel at the top but tricky with doing in the Left in first and out on right) to top rad (Rad put it the other way around with the barbs in the hdd cage) to front rad ( and then front rad put the rad other way around with the barbs at top) to res to pump

Y? thermal equilbrium and flow rate and pressure.

Flowrate u get maximum to ure Blocks first which creates restriction to increase pressure and reduce flow rate and hence the water can reach the rads and rads will have enough time to cool it back to the res.

ok the 2nd pump. is a con and pro. Ure increasing the flow rate but might increase the flowrate
so usage of dual pumps is to reduce noise and tune the pumps to achieve the balance. not too much flowrate. just perfect as blocks has a limit to optimum flowrate.

This post has been edited by cstkl1: Jul 21 2014, 10:24 PM

final edit lol
Suggestion:

with acrylic u can make this look nice. Do Pump to GPU to CPU ( use the parellel at the top but tricky with doing in the Left in first and out on right) to top rad (Rad put it the other way around with the barbs in the hdd cage) to front rad ( and then front rad put the rad other way around with the barbs at top) to res to pump

Y? thermal equilbrium and flow rate and pressure.

Flowrate u get maximum to ure Blocks first which creates restriction to increase pressure and reduce flow rate and hence the water can reach the rads and rads will have enough time to cool it back to the res.

ok the 2nd pump. is a con and pro. Ure increasing the flow rate but might increase flowrate to rads... inverse.. its inceasing the capacity to carry water but decreasing cooling time on rad.
so usage of dual pumps is to reduce noise and tune the pumps to achieve the balance. not too much flowrate. just perfect as blocks has a limit to optimum flowrate. so most ppl will put a flowrate reader at this point to try to get 1.5-2 lpm

hard to think and write and edit and u replying when i am trying to make this clear.. but this is the best.
what u will achieve is highest flow to blocks and lowest flow on the rads.

This post has been edited by cstkl1: Jul 21 2014, 10:33 PM

final bro.
cause i know ure not watercooling for looks. U want performance. Hence y told this config. For me its the same performance then looks. With the acrylic/petg tubes ..looks now is possible with primo tech with compression fittings.

There is another type of radiator. high flow optimized radiator. Example SR-1's. Dont confuse with radiator restriction and high flow radiators.
afaik sr-1 is high flow radiator. because the tubes inside are bigger hence the FPI is smaller at 9 only.

btw i may be wrong about this but this is what i am also trying to understand this atm. HWlabs are changing some radiator flowrate properties with the introduction of SR-1 5 years back and now with Nemesis... Because they produce their own rads/cores etc in house. They achieve high cooling capacity at smaller thickness.

hwlabs are very supportive and informative on all the questions i asked. Still trying to swallow all that data.

XSPC RX are dated, Alphacool monsters etc.. are also dated etc.. aquatuning.. afaik isnt this the failed hmm feser project??

ok difference with a high flow optimized radiator and a normal big thick rads with optimized fin and fpi config.

A situation like
Pump to CPu to Radiator to res. So u get the highest flow to cpu. but because only using single block its hard to get lowerflow to radiator. In the past we use bigger radiators... But Hwlabs are doing highflow optimized radiators afaik to solve this issue. Hence a nemesis Xflow GTS 240 Single pass will beat a RX240. Thats what i think transpired in the review.

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This post has been edited by cstkl1: Jul 21 2014, 11:31 PM

LLK
Ditch that terminal block and do this
http://www.overclock.net/t/584302/ocn-wate...0#post_22584242

easier and better.

so i guess most ppl here are more looks orientated.

since nobody is even discussing how the hell a nemesis gts single pass rad gave the monsta and rx a beatdown. 29mm beat the crap out of a 80mm.

Btw cougar vortex hdb coming soon to MY

This post has been edited by cstkl1: Jul 22 2014, 07:48 PM

Well got nemesis gtx for myself 560+280
Others are sr1 for few ppl. Most expensive is sr1 560 @usd 125.
Nemesis price same as retail. Sr1 drop. Their facebook says sr2 coming soon.
Waiting for distro to bring in some vortex HDB. Cheaper also.

If all ok with fedex will post tommorow the sr1 280 n nemesis side by side. 1 day delivery. Lol

This post has been edited by cstkl1: Jul 22 2014, 10:51 PM

feser admiral is the same as aqua afaik. total failure in cooling. They increased the cooling on higher flow. But with the size most ppl put that rad at the end of the loop and not inbetween. Also require crazy as fan speed and static pressure to reach the last tube.
It was produced by LottersMettal thats not part of TFC. Also they have they own rads same as admiral called thermalfins. Suspect aqua rad is from the same company as well.

i wonder did feser pay back frozen cpu the USD100k they borrowed lol.

similar concept is hwlabs sr series. they have larger tubes and lower fin density. except its fins vs that pipe fin thingy.

This post has been edited by cstkl1: Jul 22 2014, 11:21 PM

I chickened out from using rigid tubing. Everytime after planning the route.. kept thinking.. if had to troubleshoot the pain i had to go through..
so instead of reusing my old stock pile of bitspower gold /black fittings.. gonna try moonsoon free compression. They look nice.

So now only the ek blocks from Apes.

Rad got stuck in customs so hoping with the info i furnished etc will clear tommorow.

countdown to me disappearing once this is done.

btw just got some inside scoop about wc manufactorers etc for the last 10 years.. damn man. full of back stabbing, backbiting, ffk etc.


This post has been edited by cstkl1: Jul 24 2014, 04:39 AM

are u using nozzles??

just make sure the clearing when ure not using nozzles..


dammnit. got taxed for the rads at 30%. they refused to accept the hwlabs catalogue etc..


This post has been edited by cstkl1: Jul 24 2014, 05:47 PM

Apes - (Waiting for blocks and Aerocool DS fans .. hmm the 1500rpm only available in the US/Canada)
Hwlabs - Tommorow fedex with Rm750 tax ( damnit)
PPC - I screwed up something but not a big deal but shows everytime i do stuff at 4-5am in the morning.. things always turned bad. What i did was i ordered 1/2 moonsoon angle adapters for my 3/8 5/8. so just hope that 1/8inch difference wont bee too noticeable. Pure carelessness.

So looks like the weekend after raya will be bz. The issue with acrylic and tj11 is the midplate. Stock is a bit difficult with two rads very close to each other. Measured it a few times. So because of that.. went to tubing. Really too much hassle. Also think will delid after the ghost month period is over.. so september. Seems everything i touch now turns bad. lol

This post has been edited by cstkl1: Jul 24 2014, 08:05 PM