Are you all still student?....i think i am the oldest here....

Anem UW. If nothing happens and both of us go, let's meet up in real life.

Yes.

That's why it feels like a secular concert.
. Cost : SILVER - RM80 | GOLD - RM100 | PLATINUM - RM300.
http://grace-intl.com/?event=israel-hought...ive-in-malaysia

IMO nothing wrong for them to earn a living from ministry. I know Israel Houghton for some time now.

There are many Christians Artists earning from sales of their Music. This is their rice bowl. But most Christians earn their money from the secular corporate world, working.
Music Ministry is also work. I don't see why this is okay and the next is not.

I've nothing against Christians being rich. My heart is free from this jealousy. 

All resources belongs to God anyway.

Definitely impacting people for Christ. That I can vouch.

Their music are not only good but also anointed.

I've picked up some pointers on how to lead P&W from Him and others as well.

We got to take life easy. If we are so concern ohmygosh what they do with the money, they're buying bmws oh noes.
We won't be at peace, our peace will be affected by every little circumstances.

How I view this from Christ POV, mind our own business. Don't judge. 
I know that God is for prospering his children not against it.
From that basis, it should set our heart at ease.

Why should ask people of Smryna ? they all dead already. not exist today. Need to be relevant lahh... The idea is simple: Anything that not with Christ is against Christ.

Well,

Smyrna refers (in Revelation) to the an actual suffering church in Asia minor, which at that time, under the suffering of persecution (2:8-11). The word Smyrna in Greek means “myrrh,” and myrrh in figure signifies suffering.

This church prophetically represents the second stage of the course of the church from the latter part of the first century to the time that Constantine became emperor. History tells us that during this period the Roman Empire persecuted the church.

Fox’s Book of Martyrs contains many stories of their suffering under persecution. One account is the story of Polycarp, an elderly brother. When arrested by the authorities and urged to renounce Christ, he answered, “Eighty and six years have I served Him, and He never once wronged me; how then shall I blaspheme my King, who has saved me?” The persecution by the Roman Empire reached such an extent that the authority of the city of Rome asked the Caesar not to kill any more Christians lest all the citizens of that city be cut off. By this he meant that the more they killed the Christians, the more others were becoming Christians.

..Just need to add some more.

I found another article of the same person. I begin to like this guy. He teaches the same thing that I truly believe in. Keep in mind, the last argument I had with the so called 'preacher' here was all come from within my own thought. No reference whatsoever from any source except the Bible (of course God was responsible to that). Until I found this guy...

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FREE-WILLISM PREACHES "ANOTHER JESUS"
by Daniel Parks

2 Corinthians 11:4
He who... preaches another Jesus whom we have not preached
The Jesus of Free-Willism, unlike the Jesus of gospel preachers, does not possess the love of God. Preachers of Free-Willism aver God loves everyone in exactly the same way. They therefore indiscriminately tell their hearers what no gospel preacher in Scriptures ever said: "Smile, God loves you." And they preach what no gospel preacher in Scriptures every preached: "God loves you so much He chose you for salvation, but the devil hates you so much he chose you for damnation, and you must of your own free will cast the deciding vote. And Jesus Christ loves everyone so much he died for all their sins."

The God of Free-Willism is therefore not the God of Holy Scriptures and gospel preachers. The true God does not love everyone in the same way. Rather, He hates those who go to the grave in rebellion against Him. "For you are not a God who takes pleasure in wickedness, nor shall evil dwell with you. The boastful shall not stand in your sight; You hate all workers of iniquity. You shall destroy those who speak falsehood; the LORD abhors the bloodthirsty and deceitful man" (Psalm 5:4-6).

And the true God has a special love for His own people. These are they whom He of His free and sovereign grace, apart from any merit of any kind in them, chose and predestined for salvation before the foundation of the world (Eph. 1:3-6; 2 Thessalonians 2:13). They are called the Israel of God in the New Testament. God says of them, "Yes, I have loved you with an everlasting love; therefore with lovingkindness I have drawn you" (Jeremiah 31:3).

Preachers of Free-Willism aver their Jesus loves and died for everyone. But gospel preachers declare of the true Jesus, "Christ loved the church and gave himself for it!" He did not waste a single drop of His redeeming blood for those who will never submit to Him.

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I wonder how many of you all 'christians' believe in the free-willism. I can remember very clearly you all disagree with all my previous comments about God not loving everyone. Yeah keep doing so.. like I care.. LOL.

Anyway, adious... this is my last post here. Or so I think. heh.

I want to do a full body check up as well.

Got to find where's the best price to do it.

Edit: Anyway I'm on the road to recovery. Has started and Just know it, felt different.
Before this, doesn't even look like it. But I understand where you're coming from.

Ok will pray for you.
Dunno wor, want to rest first.
It's not. I don't have breathing difficulty, fever or chills. No problems with food either. Can eat fried stuff and don't have sore throat or pain. Which is really weird.

But thanks for the info.

I think it's the throat but I don't feel that anymore.

Last Sunday I felt healing flowed through my body during communion.

i have no idea why you can be so calm ... trust god so much ... put everything in god's hand and dont feel fearful .... i have been living in fearful life for 1 and a half years everyday wake up so scare this and that ... bro what should i do ?? you are the one who advice me the most until mouth also dry but i still doubt god sometimes ... still plan my own way my own future and everything ... aiks ... i cant fully surrender in god because i have weak faith in god ....even though my chinese name got a 信 ... please pray for me to increase my strength

oh i forgot to highlight when i use the word pray and declare 

Usually i use the word pray as pray in the church, pray before eating meal, pray in heart etc, hold my hand and close my eyes, and face down...

for declare, emphasizing on voicing and heart attitude: the background is on the spiritual warfare, imagine you face your opponent face to face. and you have to say to your enemy get off ! ... you have no right to be here... this is belong to Christ... Begone. If possible make your voice whole, take a deep breath before yelling at devil's face.

As you are a worship leader, i assumed your breathing and voicing is trained enough to yelled so naturally declare is like yelling...

When i declare, my hand is not like praying and sure my knees is not bended. Usually i walked here and there and my hand and finger pointing somebody in front of me as if the devil is in front of me.

that's my insight and it's not a law okkk :-)

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