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post Jul 17 2014, 08:01 PM

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Not the name. Not sure about charismatic movement but she just said that they no longer pray to mary or the saints.
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post Jul 18 2014, 05:04 AM

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QUOTE(sonido @ Jul 17 2014, 11:51 PM)
owh sorry. i mean Matthew 25:35-40.  biggrin.gif

also the story of the good samaritan. he clearly a kafir in the eye of the jews.
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Erm, Jesus is not talking about heaven there. He's talking about hypocrisy the 'holy' folk. Basically all the orang ternama and so-called 'good' Israelites abandoned the man. Instead, an 'unclean' Samaritan saved him.
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post Jul 18 2014, 05:56 PM

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Oh there's something I want to ask. Who exactly are the sheep and who are the goats? Nominal christians? Folks who 'convert' for the sake of money?
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post Jul 19 2014, 05:56 PM

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"Are people condemned because of geography or the timing of their birth? Billions of people, by no choice of their own, have been born, lived and died in regions or during eras in which the Word of God was never available to them."

That is one point that my mom and I wondered. Our grandparents come straight from China. None of my foreparents knew there is such a thing as 'Christians' until the time when ang moh came. Even then, they've never heard the word of God until they came to Malaysia.
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post Jul 23 2014, 08:42 PM

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QUOTE(sonido @ Jul 23 2014, 07:54 PM)
hmmm.. you know im no wizard in word play. you use so many fancy and flowery words.
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Actually he's using standard English. Despite being number 1 in Asia, Malaysia's English level is really low.

These are also the terms you'll encounter when you read the Bible. They use the closest translation, so it's not Unknown Warrior's fault that it gets fancy. Theological terms have roots in Greek and Latin words, which is also foreign for most Asians.

What version are you reading? If King James is way too out there, NIV is a good modern alternative.
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post Jul 24 2014, 12:27 AM

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QUOTE(sonido @ Jul 24 2014, 12:22 AM)
i think i use google. it not only points me to KJV but also to articles that explains those passages i remember long time ago.  the prblm is, those articles do not agree with each other. so discerning which is correct and which is just empty flowery justifications to support their beliefs is not easy. i trust only God can guide me to the correct one.

the only bible i know i need to avoid is those from JW.

paper bible i long time never touch. too hard to read those small letters...
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If you have smartphone you can download the bible app. Then change the version settings to your preferred one.
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post Jul 28 2014, 07:32 PM

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QUOTE(de1929 @ Jul 28 2014, 05:27 PM)
Allow me to kepo2x sikit smile.gif

About arguing wit the unbelievers, you need to show them who is the strongest. The strong one rules. The strong one ruled offer the weaker one, on the positive sides, the strong one offer protection for the weaker ones. The weak will follow the strong ones. That's the nature of human.

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That is a dangerous thought. Strength in human thought is not the same as Strength by God's standard. Strength by human standards is to beat the opponent into a pulp. Shaming and slander is violence against character. The guy who shames the best wins the argument. Very noticeable in /k/ forums.

If someone slaps you, turn the other cheek. If someone orders you to carry a mile, carry two miles. That is not strength by any cultural standard: that's weakness.

But that is exactly what Jesus said.

This is not about showing who's strong or weak. Especially through internet forum words, you cannot change a person's heart by being merely strong yourself.

What they must really see is God's strength

It's not the strong ruling over the weak. It's the weak becoming strong through faith. In order for God to show His strength, we must be 'weak'. We cannot let our own character and pride block out God.

Many charismatic people become trapped into becoming an idol. Why? Because to the human eye, they're so strong it distracts them from what's truly strong.



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post Jul 29 2014, 12:22 AM

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QUOTE(de1929 @ Jul 28 2014, 11:56 PM)
I used to agree with your writings but no more: What they must really see is God's strength .

The correct one is: What they must see is what Lord Jesus wants them to see.

We need to ask Lord Jesus more detail when doing things, old school is approach will not be sufficient in this end time.
For some occasions, display God's strength.
For some occasions, display something else. Why, because Jesus said not to display God's strength. Whatever Jesus say is the law. At least for me.

The problem, what if a person cannot hear what Jesus wants ? didn't the bible say My sheep knows My voice ?

Based on my walk with Christ, there are some people that simply does not want to hear about church / Christ, therefore Lord Jesus asked me to use a concept called proxy. Yeah this is "IT information technology" terms, but meaning for this context. Obedience to Christ first, above other rules.

When i write things in this forum, i always ask Lord Jesus. Am i authorized to write things ? what if i do wrong ? how do i know am i right ? what if i offend somebody ? what if A, what if B, what if C ?

Lord Jesus smiles at me at simply say, why worries too much ? Just write and I will take care the rest.
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Obeying God is still acknowledging His strength. Using another plan, hence another way of God's strength, is still God' plan. What are we to say that only 'my' personal efforts will work?

Praying to God and asking for the next move will no longer be your might alone. It's still a co-operation of you and the Heavens. Obeying Christ first is also not own person strength. Unless everything what Pehkay and unknownwarrior so far were wrong.

I personally cannot hear God in a literal sense. Does that make me an unbelieving heretic?

Perhaps all of us need to ask, 'should I write this'? We often say things that hurt others without thinking.

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post Jul 29 2014, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(De_Luffy @ Jul 29 2014, 08:16 AM)
if you are not willing to stand for your faith how are you going to defend yourself against the anti Christ at end of days? if not why there are many martyrs from the beginning of Christianity till now? that is because they are standing firm by their faith and willing to sacrifice themself for Christ............

Jesus said before to His disciple when was asked by how can they enter the kingdom of heaven, is to carry His Cross which means share the burden or the Word Of God without fear of death.
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It's more about knowing when it leads to nowhere. Flamebait on the forum is really bait. If we argue, he laugh and troll some more, and then we argue more... It then turns into a non-stop mudslinging competition.

In the End Time scenario, it won't be a bait for kicks and forum-level entertainment. That will be a death sentence and you won't be given much chance to argue for long.
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post Jul 29 2014, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(sonido @ Jul 29 2014, 08:29 PM)
i'm only commenting on Matthew 15:21-28 bcuz its very interesting.

no matter how i look at it the cananite woman was a believer. a non-jewish believer. just like us. she approached Jesus and was rejected. she kept being rejected until she humbled herself in front of Jesus, by admitting she was nothing but a dog. maybe.. this is a message to tell us to be humble to God in our prayer for salvation if we want to be saved ? maybe believing in Jesus alone is not enough.
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unknownwarrior pehkay tolong jelaskan.

Actually I found a place that refers to the old translation also

http://www.gotquestions.org/salvation-gift.html
http://www.gotquestions.org/faith-alone.html

If you still have questions I cannot answer liao. Must call the pro people.

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post Jul 29 2014, 11:04 PM

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Eh, manic not nice to call people out like that. That's why if want to be teacher, must sabar.
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post Jul 30 2014, 12:05 AM

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Everyone chill
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post Aug 5 2014, 11:12 PM

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In /k/ board the spider sense goes nuts laugh.gif
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post Aug 8 2014, 05:45 PM

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For some reason I feel irritated/uncomfortable when a person praise/pray/cry out loudly to the Lord. I also don't like the majority of modern Christian music. That always made me wonder if that a sign I'm not geniune. Genuine Christians should be super happy with anything about God

Right?

I like old fashioned hymns though. Or no issue. Not sure what to say anymore.
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post Aug 8 2014, 06:45 PM

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QUOTE(de1929 @ Aug 8 2014, 06:12 PM)
aha.... so i assume you like hymn great is thy faithfulness ? my favorite song

too bad these youngsters probably don't know this song.
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Ya I like the old fashioned stuff like those Bach era choirs and old hymns.

Though, I could never remember a full song before. Secular or not, sure cannot recall the full thing.

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post Aug 9 2014, 02:53 PM

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I think they're from the Mun Ni cult
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post Aug 11 2014, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(pehkay @ Aug 11 2014, 08:26 AM)
Monday .... ah ... Praise the Lord for Monday!!! tongue.gif
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New eweek new opportunities? laugh.gif
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post Aug 13 2014, 12:58 AM

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Haih I see this debate also tak mau pergi church liao
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post Aug 13 2014, 04:28 PM

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I don't go church to meet people either (probably the other extreme) but I still feel uncomfortable. It's like Christians cannot be trusted. My dad and bro kena backstabbed the most in church.
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post Aug 13 2014, 07:01 PM

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QUOTE(De_Luffy @ Aug 13 2014, 06:32 PM)
i have a controversial question to all christian friends here

What do you think of Israel today?
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Controversial. Not everything they do is right, not everything they do is wrong either.

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