Mr Steve.

Sorry for stupid question. Did you trust me and UW ? ... in short, both me and UW don't recommend you to read that article... nor to trust it... nor to buy their opinion...

but trust me on this. legal and relationship perspective. I already put in post 2588...

A very classic arminianism article

I need to apologize to you and the rest of the Christians in here for the long rebuttal between myself and mr jul.

This is an old rivalry matter.

The thing is, If every Christians is like you, asking my opinion why I believe in such and such and even if you don't accept my explanation, and the conversation stops there, I'm totally fine with that because I believe every Christians is entitled to their own opinion.

After all this Christian Fellowship thread is suppose to be based like that. I wished there are more Christians like yourself, we have a lot more peaceful fellowship.

Eh? You are not sure of what it is ? 

You know John Wesley? Perhaps the clearest and boldest proponent of the Arminian view is John Wesley. An ardent foe of Calvinism, Wesley split with George Whitefield mainly over the issue of predestination.

Concerning the perseverance of the saints, Wesley asserts:

If a believer make shipwreck of the faith, he is no longer
a child of God. And then he may go to hell, yea, and certainly will, if he continues in unbelief….He who is a child
of God to-day, may be a child of the devil to-morrow.
(Wesley 297-298)

The founder of this view, Jacob Arminius is notable for his gentle approach even to controversy. Concerning the perseverance of the saints, he says honestly,

Though I here openly and ingenuously affirm, I never
taught that a true believer can either totally or finally fall
away from the faith, and perish; yet I will not conceal,
that there are passages of Scripture which seem to me to
wear this aspect; and those answers to them which I have
been permitted to see, are not of such a kind as to
approve themselves on all points to my understanding.
On the other hand, certain passages are produced for the
contrary doctrine [of unconditional perseverance] which
are worthy of much consideration.

Most Hollywood Christian movie isn't accurately biblical based.

I think it's only the Passion of Christ, Mel Gibson, that's the closest.

Witnessing is more in tuned with people.

Movie can only do so much depending on it's content.

i tot hollywood only for money ? ... GOD is not dead movie was good and now planning for GOD is not dead 2 ...

Bible Devotions with UW

The GIFT of NO CONDEMNATION from Christ
Our Lord Jesus was teaching at the Temple Courts in the book of John 8.
You can say Sunday Service is in session in Church.

And the teachers of the law and the Pharisees rudely brought in a woman caught in adultery. They force her to stand before a crowd.
And Try to Trap Jesus by bringing up THE LAW so that they could crucify both Jesus and the Woman by accusation for Trial.

And mind you, the Law of God is valid, it was written and given by God.
Deuteronomy 22:21 (NIV) - she shall be brought to the door of her father's house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. She has done an outrageous thing in Israel by being promiscuous while still in her father's house. You must purge the evil from among you.

I feel this is where most conventional Churches are at today.
They want you to feel condemn or remorseful then repent before God and they use scripture to enforce that you are sinful all the time. They want you to FEEL CONDEMN!

Did you know when Christ Jesus stoop down and wrote on the ground twice with his finger (John 8:6 & John 8:8) [The Stone tablets was given twice, Moses broke it the first time  ], He was symbolically telling them, IT WAS HE (Jesus) who gave the Law. It is as IF Jesus was hinting; YOU PRESUME TO TELL ME ABOUT THE LAW? I AM THE ONE WHO GAVE YOU THE LAW.

And Jesus said "Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her". One by one they all left, unable to throw that stone. Did you know on that DAY.

IF the Pharisees and Teachers, COULD, they WOULD HAVE thrown the stones on that fateful day, YET they could Not. Who do you think on that day qualify to throw the Stone? Answer is Jesus Christ. Why? Because He is the one who is without Sin. Our Lord Jesus could have thrown the Stone BUT WOULD NOT! This is our God, dear Friends! HE WOULD NOT!

The Church WANTS you to feel condemn and remorseful before repenting but Jesus gave that woman the GIFT OF NO CONDEMNATION FIRST before asking her to repent.

He said in verse 10: 10 “Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?” 11“No one, sir,” she said. “Then neither do I condemn you,”Jesus declared. “Go now and leave your life of sin.”

God wants you to know, He Loves you and is NOT Angry at you. When you come to Him He will NEVER Condemn you. SOME people might and they do! But Ignore them Dear Friends, They know nothing about scripture, only Jealousy and Spitefulness towards believers of God because they have been hurt somewhere in their life and NOW they take it out on others.

Hurt Christians Hurt others. Loved Christians Love Others. And Loved Christians are Christians who KNOW they are not condemned and is loved by God (Romans 8:1)

IF you have been far away from God, our Heavenly Father, I invite you to come to Him exactly as you are. It's NEVER too late. Come to Him and receive his Grace of NO CONDEMNATION, Receive His LOVE and I promise you as promised in the scripture, HIS GRACE AND HIS LOVE will empower you to sin no more!

God Bless.

I tend to get scared easily.
But God is stronger. There are no symbols and God made these gems in the first place.
Takkan the Devil is stronger? I believe that prayer is enough to cleanse it.

About my friend, he's doing okayish but his hemoglobin still dropping for some strange reason. They just give him meds to heal all the small interior bruises in his body.

They've already done the transfusion but doctors still have no dang clue what is going on. UH, tahu lah.

Yeah if they still going to muck around, he'll transfer to Assunta tomorrow.

They're obsidian. Part research, part facination. These volcanic glass form eye-like inclusions. Under a bright light, it looks like a glimpse of a galaxy in space. There are different hues to it too. The bracelet has green and purple inclusions.

They're smaller versions of a similar piece.
No intention of buying it for luck and sorts.

How is it going guys ?? Sorry to appear from no where and i hope i can get a bible verse for my tuition center ... Can anyone gives any idea ? Thanks !

The evil spirit can give you enlightenment that this stone is nothing. Nobody bigger than Christ. Which is true. 1 + 1 = 2. oso true.
Why evil do this ? cuz evil wants to distract you from something else.

Well, it's only a hobby... how do we know when a hobby turns into not hobby anymore ?

What something else ? I don't know all of them, but allow me to share what i got in my heart. It's called idolatry.

idolatry spirit that corrupts your heart. Your heart matters, and it's not about Christ and HIS awesome name. It's your heart.

Check you heart attitude... bring to HS.

Simple test: If I purchase your stone with fair price, and i tell you upfront that i will burn the stone cuz GOD told me so... how your heart reacts ? Is it okay if i burn your stone after purchasing with fair price ? do you feel like there is a strong screaming inside your heart telling don't bother about fair price ? It's a n alarm...

if that alarm sounds, check with HS.