Is ok in some points. When you live here a couple of months you know what i am trying to say. The citizens will tell you the same thing.

patient my friend. Everyone also think of joining a big mnc. haiz.  I also wanna join a bigger MNC. Just keep on ungrading your skill.

y the emphasis on MNC or SME?
working at SME has its advantage over MNC
it isn't always gloomy working in SME

Sorry... Bo bian one lo...

Fresh grad in M'sia... Consider you have to buy a car, rent a room, pay petrol, pay toll, makan, little extra entertainment, repay PTPTN. Give you salary 3k for the first year... Take home around 2.6k...

RM2600 - RM700 (car loan) - RM500 (room) - RM300 (petrol) - RM100 (toll) - RM450 (15/day x 30 - sure over one) - RM150 (extra) - RM330 (Full PTPTN loan for Private) = RM70

Haven't consider data plan, haven't consider car maintenance, haven't consider hair cut, dynamo, body wash, shampoo...

So let say I save RM70 a month... First year in the industry I get to save er... RM840.

Even if you say buy cheaper car, cut another RM300 off the car loan...

RM70 + 300 - RM50 (phone) - RM100 (grocery/health care etc) = RM220.

One year save RM2660...
That's easily the amount a fresh grad can save in SG (converted to MYR) each month.

Haven't take inflation into account lagi... Every year price of things keep going up... Petrol, sugar, then indirectly food, transport, etc etc all rise... How to keep up?

Unless work in hometown, everything depends on family, drive family car, eat at home, sleep at home, suka suka ask daddy mummy help pay this pay that else with that kind of pay really not much savings in the first few years.

So if you want to buy/invest in a RM400k house in M'sia. Downpayment say 10% = RM40k. How long do you need to save to get that amount if you work in M'sia? 5 to 7 years? It takes probably 1 to 2 years in SG.

My idea of coming to work at SG is at least to get the first 1/2 (0.5) bucket of gold ( one bucket normally defined as 100k mah) for better life when I come back to M'sia. At least can begin more easily, no need depend too much on family. Also gain some experience, make the resume nicer a bit. Coz work in SG, the pace of work is quite fast... Everyone going like fast forwarding and also their regulation/management while doing work is quite a lot better. Ppl will want you when you're back to M'sia. *I think * Just whether you want to earn MYR back in M'sia or continue earn SGD in Singapore.

Wa... Slightly less than direct convert? So you're getting like 5.5 to 6k pay in M'sia for fresh?

Imagine you earning $4000 at second or third year, how much pay cut can you take if you decided to come back to Msia? Would you happy with RM5000 by that time?  Going back to Msia is always difficult. Quite impossible at least for me 

Wow... What company so dang good??? Good for you to find a company like that.

Cramp in MRT... Still ok la... KL sometimes also similarly cramp. Most of the time I take bus instead. Bus to my work place always double decker always got seat... Except just now... Not sure why like canceled few trips then the next bus come, all packed inside... Isolated case

Small shared room? You can just take one whole room la... Your pay can easily afford one whole room.

Underpaid... Most company in M'sia underpay even more considering the prices of everything in M'sia keep going up.

I think my job can give me enough experience covering not just what I major in. So shouldn't be a concern for me. Future undertaking also no need worry if I get to handle tasks given here well. Just too bad the time I come in a bit wrong... Everything already started, project cycle already running, they can't let me take over since I'm still fresh. Just stand at side, listen listen listen and try to learn how they do work.





Will back one... Just don't know how soon only.
You don't say say will back... You JB ppl, most high possibility won't back one is JB ppl d. Stay so close every week want back also no problem one where will feel like moving back to M'sia. Buy another house and settle down in JB possible la. Travel everyday. Or just go back stay 2 nights every week.

SG not really so packed also la... At least I still get a place to sit when I want to eat, got toilet to use, got place let me walk, got place let me sleep. No problem d

Stress... Depends on ppl la. Some ppl take stress very well... Some (especially girls) *I said some, not saying all girls, don't perasan* can't handle stress well. One of my sis's friend work in SG 2 or 3 months only beh tahan quit. As still within half year, have to pay heavy tax to gov. Another relative also can't handle stress, everyday say stress when working, in Penang, not SG lagi... Depends la... Some girls in my course also can't handle stress well. So panic when something happen...

Wow, thats low for a engineering grad. What engineering degree holding job are you in if your working 12 hour shifts?

The last time i used to work that was when i was a welding inspector on contract in singapore. At least the pay wasnt so bad at 500SGD daily rate.

Thats nothing if your working in korea for the big clients in ship/rig fabrication. You can make as much more than 500SGD a day, around 2.5 times that amount in USD but then again compared to singapore, the responsibility and work load is more, alot more.

There is a demand for the job overseas, but since the work environment requires you to go outside and it aint a desk job, it might not be appealing to the younger generation.

I dont speak korean either. Well i am learning the language but i am not required to since i have a korean QM (Quality Manager) assigned for me who also acts as a translator since he needs to communicate with me in english and to convey my instructions to the other korean staff who may not be well versed in english.

A previous colleague of mine whom i am good friends with informed me that there was an open position available. The rest as they say, is history.

Just focus with your current one first. If developed well enough, you might not even need to go abroad. Can stay in this rojak country more

Although in my honest opinion, Singapore is even more rojak. It's a super rojak. Especially when you work in construction. Really rojak!

haha... Not big project la... Small sesame company only. But in small company good to get experiences la. Everything also must know

Sometimes big company... All too specific d. Constraint by the company itself. You do just your part. Done your part, get ready for next project. The cycle keeps going on and on... Only in a small company you have to handle everything you can think of

Anyway... Still just a stepping stone. Gain enough experience then it's time to cabut.

If your still young, the money will come, no worries about that, the issue is what does it take to get to that position. But what alot of singaporean employers like to complain and is partially true is that alot of people now use singapore as a "launch pad" for their foray into "international markets".

What experience i gained in singapore was the stepping stone i needed to branch out, first as a contract staff for local market (singapore), then overseas projects.

Not to say that projects within singapore arent lucrative, but more often than not the singapore HQ will underpay you even if your a professional due to being asian in an asian environment. Except of course korea and japan for some odd reason.

Btw, i dont work for a korean company which would most likely require me to learn korean.

I am not sure about the similar environment since i find it different than singapore or malaysia.

Haha. Me and my wife are working in KL. I have been offered by Singapore Big 4. Of course I want my wife to stay with me, and she can transfer to another hospital in JB.

Money wise, yes, we might need to spend little bit more money for such arrangement, but I think it is worthy to stay together.

she will be taking public transport. say if she would like to clear the border by 7:30, what time she need to arrive at woodland?

understand that it woupd be cheaper to stay in jb. but as an auditor, the working hours is crazy. sometimes u leave office at 3am and back to office at 8:30am. It will be too tired for me to jam at the border..

Her pay will be better if work in Singapore, but with more stress. She is quite satisfied to work in msia government hospital, with 25 days leave + unwritten benefits, clock in and out on time, months of paid maternity leave, and can get unpaid maternity leave up to 5 years. Mana boleh cari kerja ni? haha.