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post Apr 16 2014, 10:09 PM, updated 9y ago

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I think most people don't make rm200 a day by working their asses off their full time employment, well most people except /k tards 20k/month average.

All you need to do is make rm200 a day 30 days you get rm6k a month. rm200 in today's standard is pretty much rm50 10 years ago. Groceries at Cold Storage for 1 week already more than rm200, chocolate la, yoghurt la, honey, ice-cream etc.

I did a simple calculation, i see many jobs can easily generate rm200 income a day.

Taxi say rm10 per trip per 20 minutes, you just need to run 20 trips which is 400 minutes (6.7hours) to generate rm200, you just need to keep picking up passengers and don't try to charge rm30 for 5km trip and spend 1 hour on lunch & breaks. Taking gas, maintenance & license fees into account, one can still easily take home rm4k per month.

Nasi Lemak seller, rm2 per pack, just need to sell 100 packs a day to make rm200. put in kuih muih 50cent per piece, normal day rm200 a day shouldn't be too difficult and only need to wake up early to prefer and sell in the morning. Just need a roadside stall & small car.

Burger Stall, rm5 per burger, just need to sell 40 burgers a night to hit rm200. no need much preparation.

Unlicensed KL to KLIA private car. Charge rm50 per trip to KLIA, and if lucky get passenger rm30 from KLIA back to KL, 1 day just need to pick up 4 passengers rm200 kaotim, no need pay tax, just toll fee & petrol & maintenance, if you convert to NGV even cheaper. Can get touch & go discount somemore.

Home Cleaner, charge rm150 per month (car wash already charge rm50 per month 1 week wash 3 times) for 1 house clean once a week, need to clean 40 houses per month, 6 houses a day, 1.5 hours per house to mop floor, clean toilet, dust off tables, OK not as lucrative as the others but if lazy clean 3 houses a day can still get 3k no need pay tax.

Prostitute in Orchard Road, SGD100 per session, just need 2 session a night to make SGD200, hotel cost $SGD150 per night at Hotel 81 + condom + checkup every 3 months, if you become high class escort can charge even more per hour. It's legal and you don't pay tax.

These are just a few examples how people can make a decent living. You don't need a Graduate certificate or be professional certified to do so. It's not like asking you to be a lawyer and sell a sign paper for 3k or do operation for 5k. All these job are barely affected by bad economy like Properties/Market Shares/Insurance.

So I don't see why so many people here opening thread about how hard it is to live in KL, how hard it is just get a job that pays for rm200.

I say if you have an abled body & willing to work, you can easily make a decent living. Sure it won't be good enough to buy a Ferrari or Bangalow but at least you will survive better.

Lee Kuan Yew is right all the while. There is no Poor people, only Lazy people.



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post Apr 16 2014, 10:12 PM

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wall of text.

didn't read lel
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post Apr 16 2014, 10:12 PM

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most think they are worth that or above

but their bosses think otherwise
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post Apr 16 2014, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(advocado @ Apr 16 2014, 10:09 PM)
I did a simple calculation, i see many  jobs can easily generate rm200 income a day.

Nasi Lemak seller, rm2 per pack, just need to sell 100 packs a day to make rm200. put in kuih muih 50cent per piece, normal day rm200 a day shouldn't be too difficult and only need to wake up early to prefer and sell in the morning. Just need a roadside stall & small car.

Burger Stall, rm5 per burger, just need to sell 40 burgers a night to hit rm200. no need much preparation.
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Kosnya mana?

Burger curi ka? senang2 jual rm5 untung rm5


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post Apr 16 2014, 10:13 PM

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taking cost into account at most ma cost the burger guy rm2k a month? still have 4k take home.

QUOTE(bone_me @ Apr 16 2014, 10:12 PM)
Kosnya mana?

Burger curi ka? senang2 jual rm5 untung rm5
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QUOTE(bone_me @ Apr 16 2014, 10:12 PM)
Kosnya mana?

Burger curi ka? senang2 jual rm5 untung rm5
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post Apr 16 2014, 10:18 PM

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How about tuition teacher?
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post Apr 16 2014, 10:20 PM

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Lol. No need air leteik?

raw material? Wall of bull shit.

population?

total revenue?

confirm untung? No loss?

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post Apr 16 2014, 10:21 PM

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Bullshit is always easier than action. No cost ar? No need depends crowd and situation? When bad luck comes, u think can sell so many burger or nasi lemak? i can see you got no experience la. I earn more than rm200 per day, hardwork always come first then smart comes second but i think your idea is whole bullshit.

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Apr 16 2014, 10:20 PM)
Lol. No need air leteik?

raw material? Wall of bull shit.

population?

total revenue?

confirm untung? No loss?

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post Apr 16 2014, 10:26 PM

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tuition u can teach? 1 to 1 or 1 to 5? how much you charge? can guarantee pass? you got insider information on what question will come out?

QUOTE(everest @ Apr 16 2014, 10:18 PM)
How about tuition teacher?
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post Apr 16 2014, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(IluvProton @ Apr 16 2014, 10:12 PM)
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post Apr 16 2014, 10:28 PM

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u cannot read or what? i didn't say cost meh? i say earn rm200 a day, i also said got cost, but cost how much? still take home anytime more than ur typical /k opis salary 2k a month la.

u take rm2k salary no need cost la?

u walk to work ah? u drink opis water use opis utility, eat free left over rice ah? if u calculate in ur cost u lagi rugi. Coz u pay tax.


QUOTE(Cloud9Nos3 @ Apr 16 2014, 10:21 PM)
Bullshit is always easier than action. No cost ar? No need depends crowd and situation? When bad luck comes, u think can sell so many burger or nasi lemak? i can see you got no experience la. I earn more than rm200 per day, hardwork always come first then smart comes second but i think your idea is whole bullshit.
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bro orchard towers also dont have SGD 100, geylang maybe got la.. but lel quality
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post Apr 16 2014, 10:31 PM

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i already down played their profit per sales, thus burger stall need to sell 40 burgers a night to rake rm200, they sell 20 burgers still 3k a month, still better than many of you non 20k /k members.

prostitute is pretty much guranteed since Singapore many tourist if you no face/body problem 1 night can easily take up 3-4 customers, if lucky someone pao you whole night, $500 a night easy pansy. no need pay tax. can enjoice somemore.

QUOTE(Cloud9Nos3 @ Apr 16 2014, 10:21 PM)
Bullshit is always easier than action. No cost ar? No need depends crowd and situation? When bad luck comes, u think can sell so many burger or nasi lemak? i can see you got no experience la. I earn more than rm200 per day, hardwork always come first then smart comes second but i think your idea is whole bullshit.
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Even you extract Nitrogen from our air, you need lots of those equipments to separate those different compositions.

Even thou, Nitrogen is free and it is abundant.
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post Apr 16 2014, 10:32 PM

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i write actual figures later people say i exaggerate plox.

they think their full time employment salary they earned is gooding.

i don't even need to say those people who work by clicking their mouses lo. rm200 a day is like 5 minutes work. but the risk is there.


QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Apr 16 2014, 10:31 PM)
bro orchard towers also dont have SGD 100, geylang maybe got la.. but lel quality
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QUOTE(advocado @ Apr 16 2014, 10:09 PM)
I think most people don't make rm200 a day by working their asses off their full time employment, well most people except /k tards 20k/month average.

All you need to do is make rm200 a day 30 days you get rm6k a month. rm200 in today's standard is pretty much rm50 10 years ago. Groceries at Cold Storage for 1 week already more than rm200, chocolate la, yoghurt la, honey, ice-cream etc.

I did a simple calculation, i see many  jobs can easily generate rm200 income a day.

Taxi say rm10 per trip per 20 minutes, you just need to run 20 trips which is 400 minutes (6.7hours) to generate rm200, you just need to keep picking up passengers and don't try to charge rm30 for 5km trip and spend 1 hour on lunch & breaks. Taking gas, maintenance & license fees into account, one can still easily take home rm4k per month.

Nasi Lemak seller, rm2 per pack, just need to sell 100 packs a day to make rm200. put in kuih muih 50cent per piece, normal day rm200 a day shouldn't be too difficult and only need to wake up early to prefer and sell in the morning. Just need a roadside stall & small car.

Burger Stall, rm5 per burger, just need to sell 40 burgers a night to hit rm200. no need much preparation.

Unlicensed KL to KLIA private car. Charge rm50 per trip to KLIA, and if lucky get passenger rm30 from KLIA back to KL, 1 day just need to pick up 4 passengers rm200 kaotim, no need pay tax, just toll fee & petrol & maintenance, if you convert to NGV even cheaper. Can get touch & go discount somemore.

Home Cleaner, charge rm150 per month (car wash already charge rm50 per month 1 week wash 3 times) for 1 house clean once a week, need to clean 40 houses per month, 6 houses a day, 1.5 hours per house to mop floor, clean toilet, dust off tables, OK not as lucrative as the others but if lazy clean 3 houses a day can still get 3k no need pay tax.

Prostitute in Orchard Road, SGD100 per session, just need 2 session a night to make SGD200, hotel cost $SGD150 per night at Hotel 81 + condom + checkup every 3 months, if you become high class escort can charge even more per hour. It's legal and you don't pay tax.

These are just a few examples how people can make a decent living. You don't need a Graduate certificate or be professional certified to do so. It's not like asking you to be a lawyer and sell a sign paper for 3k or do operation for 5k. All these job are barely affected by bad economy like Properties/Market Shares/Insurance.

So I don't see why so many people here opening thread about how hard it is to live in KL, how hard it is just get a job that pays for rm200.

I say if you have an abled body & willing to work, you can easily make a decent living. Sure it won't be good enough to buy a Ferrari or Bangalow but at least you will survive better.

Lee Kuan Yew is right all the while. There is no Poor people, only Lazy people.
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post Apr 16 2014, 10:33 PM

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Same as converting toilet water into drinkable water, even though water is widely available.


QUOTE(((Xa))0102 @ Apr 16 2014, 10:31 PM)
Even you extract Nitrogen from our air, you need lots of those equipments to separate those different compositions.

Even thou, Nitrogen is free and it is abundant.
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post Apr 16 2014, 10:34 PM

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lelele the above mentioned is much more practical than you asking for rm4k salary in your interview lel...



QUOTE(Tongny @ Apr 16 2014, 10:33 PM)
Tok kok sing song. Please be practical la!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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QUOTE(advocado @ Apr 16 2014, 10:31 PM)
i already down played their profit per sales, thus burger stall need to sell 40 burgers a night to rake rm200, they sell 20 burgers still 3k a month, still better than many of you non 20k /k members.

prostitute is pretty much guranteed since Singapore many tourist if you no face/body problem 1 night can easily take up 3-4 customers, if lucky someone pao you whole night, $500 a night easy pansy. no need pay tax. can enjoice somemore.
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Prostitution is harommmmm............
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post Apr 16 2014, 10:36 PM

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nope, coz i lazy. i'm not complaining anyway.

but i see many people complain cannot even get rm2.5k salary so i try to give them some enlightenment.

but i guess some folks rather take up a professional job and earn peanuts rather than work hard & get their hands dirty & earn more.

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chocolate la, yoghurt la, honey, ice-cream etc are luxury items not necessities.
if u eat white rice with one egg u can save millions.

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post Apr 16 2014, 10:38 PM

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same as Iphone 5, Samsung S4, Google Glass. those cost even much more.

if just use Nokia brick phones, u can save billions.

QUOTE(Freeloader @ Apr 16 2014, 10:36 PM)
chocolate la, yoghurt la, honey, ice-cream etc are luxury items not necessities.
if u eat white rice with one egg u can save millions.
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QUOTE(advocado @ Apr 16 2014, 10:38 PM)
same as Iphone 5, Samsung S4, Google Glass. those cost even much more.

if just use Nokia brick phones, u can save billions.
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QUOTE(advocado @ Apr 16 2014, 10:09 PM)
I think most people don't make rm200 a day by working their asses off their full time employment, well most people except /k tards 20k/month average.

All you need to do is make rm200 a day 30 days you get rm6k a month. rm200 in today's standard is pretty much rm50 10 years ago. Groceries at Cold Storage for 1 week already more than rm200, chocolate la, yoghurt la, honey, ice-cream etc.

I did a simple calculation, i see many  jobs can easily generate rm200 income a day.

Taxi say rm10 per trip per 20 minutes, you just need to run 20 trips which is 400 minutes (6.7hours) to generate rm200, you just need to keep picking up passengers and don't try to charge rm30 for 5km trip and spend 1 hour on lunch & breaks. Taking gas, maintenance & license fees into account, one can still easily take home rm4k per month.

Nasi Lemak seller, rm2 per pack, just need to sell 100 packs a day to make rm200. put in kuih muih 50cent per piece, normal day rm200 a day shouldn't be too difficult and only need to wake up early to prefer and sell in the morning. Just need a roadside stall & small car.

Burger Stall, rm5 per burger, just need to sell 40 burgers a night to hit rm200. no need much preparation.

Unlicensed KL to KLIA private car. Charge rm50 per trip to KLIA, and if lucky get passenger rm30 from KLIA back to KL, 1 day just need to pick up 4 passengers rm200 kaotim, no need pay tax, just toll fee & petrol & maintenance, if you convert to NGV even cheaper. Can get touch & go discount somemore.

Home Cleaner, charge rm150 per month (car wash already charge rm50 per month 1 week wash 3 times) for 1 house clean once a week, need to clean 40 houses per month, 6 houses a day, 1.5 hours per house to mop floor, clean toilet, dust off tables, OK not as lucrative as the others but if lazy clean 3 houses a day can still get 3k no need pay tax.

Prostitute in Orchard Road, SGD100 per session, just need 2 session a night to make SGD200, hotel cost $SGD150 per night at Hotel 81 + condom + checkup every 3 months, if you become high class escort can charge even more per hour. It's legal and you don't pay tax.

These are just a few examples how people can make a decent living. You don't need a Graduate certificate or be professional certified to do so. It's not like asking you to be a lawyer and sell a sign paper for 3k or do operation for 5k. All these job are barely affected by bad economy like Properties/Market Shares/Insurance.

So I don't see why so many people here opening thread about how hard it is to live in KL, how hard it is just get a job that pays for rm200.

I say if you have an abled body & willing to work, you can easily make a decent living. Sure it won't be good enough to buy a Ferrari or Bangalow but at least you will survive better.

Lee Kuan Yew is right all the while. There is no Poor people, only Lazy people.
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just some corrections so that you are more aware.. KLIA taxis.. the airport limo? the taxi drivers would need to pay the company rm140 EVERY DAMN day.. not inclusive of fuel and tool. So do your math whether it could be that easy. same goes to the red cab.. they would need to pay rm80 to the cronies every damn day.

Prostitute 2 sessions a day? sad but it isn't true most of them are merely working for cartels which we are not aware of. There is no Poor people, only Lazy people. Again I disagree. there are too many ppl which actually need our helps and deserves our help. There are so much unfortunate ppl out there.
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post Apr 16 2014, 10:49 PM

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boy you really need to go back school and relearn how to comprehend simple english.

"Unlicensed KL to KLIA private car.", does it sound like ur KLIA taxis?

So let's talk about KLIA taxis then, even if you take rm140 per day into account for the airport limos, you just need to make 1 back/forth to cover the rm140 (rm70 per way), then do another 2 back & forth which means 3 trips per day to rack rm200, NGV & maintenance doesn't cost that much. Note KLIA limos can easily get KLIA-KL customers and they charge higher than unlicensed Private cars.

Prostitutes, hello, did i mention Orchard road? Do you know prostitution cartels is illegal in Singapore, but prostitution itself is not a crime? There's many independent prostitutes who don't need to pay cartels & government tax. $200 a day is sup sup water.



QUOTE(kidmad @ Apr 16 2014, 10:43 PM)
just some corrections so that you are more aware.. KLIA taxis.. the airport limo? the taxi drivers would need to pay the company rm140 EVERY DAMN day.. not inclusive of fuel and tool. So do your math whether it could be that easy. same goes to the red cab.. they would need to pay rm80 to the cronies every damn day.

Prostitute 2 sessions a day? sad but it isn't true most of them are merely working for cartels which we are not aware of. There is no Poor people, only Lazy people. Again I disagree. there are too many ppl which actually need our helps and deserves our help. There are so much unfortunate ppl out there.
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also before i wrote There is no poor people sentence, i did mention about if you have an abled body & willing to work hard in the paragraph before that didn't i?

QUOTE(kidmad @ Apr 16 2014, 10:43 PM)
just some corrections so that you are more aware.. KLIA taxis.. the airport limo? the taxi drivers would need to pay the company rm140 EVERY DAMN day.. not inclusive of fuel and tool. So do your math whether it could be that easy. same goes to the red cab.. they would need to pay rm80 to the cronies every damn day.

Prostitute 2 sessions a day? sad but it isn't true most of them are merely working for cartels which we are not aware of. There is no Poor people, only Lazy people. Again I disagree. there are too many ppl which actually need our helps and deserves our help. There are so much unfortunate ppl out there.
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Some jobs make RM1.2k/day.
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QUOTE(advocado @ Apr 16 2014, 10:49 PM)
boy you really need to go back school and relearn how to comprehend simple english.

"Unlicensed KL to KLIA private car.", does it sound like ur KLIA taxis?

So let's talk about KLIA taxis then, even if you take rm140 per day into account for the airport limos, you just need to make 1 back/forth to cover the rm140 (rm70 per way), then do another 2 back & forth which means 3 trips per day to rack rm200, NGV & maintenance doesn't cost that much. Note KLIA limos can easily get KLIA-KL customers and they charge higher than unlicensed Private cars.

Prostitutes, hello, did i mention Orchard road? Do you know prostitution cartels is illegal in Singapore, but prostitution itself is not a crime? There's many independent prostitutes who don't need to pay cartels & government tax. $200 a day is sup sup water.
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I LOL if it's as simple as what you said why does the cabbies who fetches me to KLIA has to take more night shifts? why do they need to work for approx 16 hours a day? Think again. it was not as simple as what you think. You've not been there don't assume their life could be that simple. just because your bosses sits in the office faces his lappie 8 hours a day.. that doesn't mean his working. It's the same theory. wink.gif

Cartels is illegal in Singapore? oh yes it is.. but the amount of hookers who do not comply with the screening for herpes and aids are equally as much. Continue your assumption if you really do think working hard alone is suffice. Good Luck.
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only to Muslims & Christians/Catholics. Which is just 50% of world population.

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Prostitution is harommmmm............
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sure seems that way

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the kind of job average /k can take up? don't think so.

QUOTE(Jackie-Cham @ Apr 16 2014, 10:54 PM)
Some jobs make RM1.2k/day.
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i stopped at taxi. as if rm200 is gross. no need pay gas, pay maintanence, toll, tyre, etc?
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the kind of job average /k can take up? don't think so.
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Personally I think those technical skills are more profitable nowadays than like degrees and shit. You can easily set up your own business and get a lot of work from that. The problem is I suck at anything hands on. I tend to destroy anything I touch/try to fix :/
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how much does it cost to undergo HIV test? you need test every month? so it cost $200 per test? you earn $200 a night.

if you say they pay rm140 a day, why do they need to make so many trips? they have to finance their Mercedes E-Class is it? Even you use Petrol the petrol cost won't cost so much, and your car maintenance would be rm120 for normal maintenance & rm300 for bigger maintenance & maybe rm1.5k for yearly big big maintenance. so did you ask how much they make by working 16 hours a day?

and yes i know many /k can testify their bosses sitting in their office lappie for 8 hours and not doing anything.

well, you just continue earning your money, you earned it. Retire at 55. Then can play around with your grandkids & die a happy man.


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I LOL if it's as simple as what you said why does the cabbies who fetches me to KLIA has to take more night shifts? why do they need to work for approx 16 hours a day? Think again. it was not as simple as what you think. You've not been there don't assume their life could be that simple. just because your bosses sits in the office faces his lappie 8 hours a day.. that doesn't mean his working. It's the same theory.  wink.gif

Cartels is illegal in Singapore? oh yes it is.. but the amount of hookers who do not comply with the screening for herpes and aids are equally as much. Continue your assumption if you really do think working hard alone is suffice. Good Luck.
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is your salary take home? so it cost nothing to go to work, fill ur tummy up etc?

Of course rm200 a day is gross, did i say it's take home? Didn't i mention about gas, license fee & maintenance? Can't you read?


QUOTE(Michaelbyz23 @ Apr 16 2014, 10:58 PM)
i stopped at taxi. as if rm200 is gross. no need pay gas, pay maintanence, toll, tyre, etc?
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care to share what kind of work any /k take take up that gives rm1.2k/day?


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Fully agree with TS. However, I was thinking along the line of RM100 oer day.
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lulz lu tak suka lu keluar dari u seluar.

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if only target rm100 a day is sup sup water, work 4-5 hours can liao.

QUOTE(Mikken @ Apr 16 2014, 11:05 PM)
Fully agree with TS. However, I was thinking along the line of RM100 oer day.
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how much does it cost to undergo HIV test? you need test every month? so it cost $200 per test? you earn $200 a night.

if you say they pay rm140 a day, why do they need to make so many trips? they have to finance their Mercedes E-Class is it? Even you use Petrol the petrol cost won't cost so much, and your car maintenance would be rm120 for normal maintenance & rm300 for bigger maintenance & maybe rm1.5k for yearly big big maintenance. so did you ask how much they make by working 16 hours a day?

and yes i know many /k can testify their bosses sitting in their office lappie for 8 hours and not doing anything.

well, you just continue earning your money, you earned it. Retire at 55. Then can play around with your grandkids & die a happy man.
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perhaps you will have a different paradigm when you start managing ppl but I guess your not and that's why you could only come up with such assumption.

It doesn't cost much but again most likely they are not going to do it? why? you gotta ask them first hand.

paying rm140 is part of it. fuel consumption, toll, running cost, tyre, rim, alignment, samans.. the list goes on. I can't comment much on the other profession as I do not know much about it but having the cabbies fetching me to klia occasionally from setia alam > klia and back and forth.. it cost me around rm150 for trips before 6am. less than rm100 for normal trips. you really think that's much money? Do you know how many cabs do they have? what's their waiting time before they could get the next customer? u really think there are so many ppl like me who would arrange cab for 2 way trip? You may continue with your assumption but working approx 16 hours a day does not sound as easy like what you've mentioned.
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Must be something shady if you have to be so secretive.

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I only make RM 80/day. Haih.
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if only target rm100 a day is sup sup water, work 4-5 hours can liao.
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Dont agree with you on that though. Unless you found a job/biznes which is really "Blue Ocean". Business is real tough out there and you have discounted the intense competition. You have to think that not everyone is that smart.
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you must be a manager seeing how you frequent KLIA, maybe you are one of those managers that actually do work.

going back to KLIA taxi, how much would it cost for a salesman to run his car, it's probably about the same, maybe 2-3 times more, but how much can that be? and please don't take saman into the discussion.

you do the maths, how long would it take for a taxi to get a customer in KLIA? 1 hour maybe? how many trips does he need to make to make rm200 a day? 3 trips? apart from the rm140 a day, how much does the NGV & Maintenance cost? rm3k a month??? they are using Wajas, not some brand new Mercedes E-Class. you make it sound like Waja runs more expensive than a Perdana as BN claims it to be. A KLIA taxi driver once told me, after fetching me at really early morning, he will go to sleep during daytime and work during evenings/night time, that doesn't sound like 16 hours a day to me.


QUOTE(kidmad @ Apr 16 2014, 11:10 PM)
perhaps you will have a different paradigm when you start managing ppl but I guess your not and that's why you could only come up with such assumption.

It doesn't cost much but again most likely they are not going to do it? why? you gotta ask them first hand.

paying rm140 is part of it. fuel consumption, toll, running cost, tyre, rim, alignment, samans.. the list goes on. I can't comment much on the other profession as I do not know much about it but having the cabbies fetching me to klia occasionally from setia alam > klia and back and forth.. it cost me around rm150 for trips before 6am. less than rm100 for normal trips. you really think that's much money? Do you know how many cabs do they have? what's their waiting time before they could get the next customer? u really think there are so many ppl like me who would arrange cab for 2 way trip? You may continue with your assumption but working approx 16 hours a day does not sound as easy like what you've mentioned.
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that is about rm2k a month 24 working days right?

well as long as you are happy with it and can survive it's not that bad.



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this i disagree. some people have to take medicine for their illness which has the side effects of growing fat.

some people are born fat.

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also many maciks earn less than rm80 a day in their full time job, but they are smart to gather their links and do their small sales, usually perfumes, honey, handbags etc, can easily boost their monthly income by 1k-2k a month.

thats why you see many 38's in office.

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not as cheap as your farts.

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like many old people say, got hands got legs don't want to work, want to rob, steal & beg. many lazy people la.

QUOTE(nicole_4ever @ Apr 16 2014, 11:24 PM)
if it so easy

people still so desperate and go rob?
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doesn't feel like i'm going to war wo.

want to use keyboard warrior as a term also need to use on proper thread la. u just made urself look like a keyboard warrior.

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bro, i think u missed out some hidden cost. u need to factor in the cost of doing those jobs which i'm not sure of. but i get your message. as long as we have our arms n legs we can get by.
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what cost did i miss out?

bribing JPJ officer? give police free nasi lemak & burger? face some occasion "hit & run never pay" customers? if i list down every single cost and give you a proposal better? u pay me make proposal?


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bro, i think u missed out some hidden cost. u need to factor in the cost of doing those jobs which i'm not sure of. but i get your message. as long as we have our arms n legs we can get by.
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i bet u rm1000 the nasi lemak pacik & macik never read any books about entrepreneurship, blue ocean, rich dad poor dad types of books.

it's not like i propose you to create a facebook competitor or something not everyone can do.

but i get what you mean, some people just too thin faced to do these so called lower tier jobs they rather take peanuts doing office jobs & feel high class about them being middle class peasants paying full tax.


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what cost did i miss out?

bribing JPJ officer? give police free nasi lemak & burger? face some occasion "hit & run never pay" customers? if i list down every single cost and give you a proposal better? u pay me make proposal?
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like i said, i'm not sure. bro chilax a bit. dun hafto sound so sarcastic.
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it is not hard, you just need to work 24 hours to make 200 a day.
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well if 24hrs is what it takes for you, why not? smile.gif

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The hidden cost to reach your rm200 a day is because you spent and sometimes you need to spent. For those who have car is parking, we need to eat so food! breakfast, lunch and dinner hopefully you get to skip some. If isnt car then transportation. So solution? learn to save when you can get to save! (maggi mee setiap hari) joking.
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Unlicensed KL to KLIA private car. Charge rm50 per trip to KLIA, and if lucky get passenger rm30 from KLIA back to KL, 1 day just need to pick up 4 passengers rm200 kaotim, no need pay tax, just toll fee & petrol & maintenance, if you convert to NGV even cheaper. Can get touch & go discount somemore.

rm50 macam sikit sangat wor if you using petrol.. if NGV ok la..
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I think most people don't make rm200 a day by working their asses off their full time employment, well most people except /k tards 20k/month average.

All you need to do is make rm200 a day 30 days you get rm6k a month. rm200 in today's standard is pretty much rm50 10 years ago. Groceries at Cold Storage for 1 week already more than rm200, chocolate la, yoghurt la, honey, ice-cream etc.

I did a simple calculation, i see many  jobs can easily generate rm200 income a day.

Taxi say rm10 per trip per 20 minutes, you just need to run 20 trips which is 400 minutes (6.7hours) to generate rm200, you just need to keep picking up passengers and don't try to charge rm30 for 5km trip and spend 1 hour on lunch & breaks. Taking gas, maintenance & license fees into account, one can still easily take home rm4k per month.

Lee Kuan Yew is right all the while. There is no Poor people, only Lazy people.
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Your logic have too much false , all of it doesn't work except for the prostitution part.... I malas want bash you on all your logic, so just choose one of them, the 1st one.

Taxi.
You said run 400 minutes = 6.7 hours get RM 200.00 , minus taxi+permit rent a day about 40-50 ringgit , RM 10 ringgit for gas, Minus RM 5 (for Puspakom check and taxi maintenance/repair) ,
So clean cut earning is 140.00 /day if drove 6.7 hours a day but as human we need to eat. everyday spend 1 H 30 Min to eat/toilet break is fair right?

so 6.7 + 1.5 = 8.3 Hours .... and certainly the road doesn't belong to bapak taxi driver... congestion in KL is bad... say spend 3 and half hours in Jam ,

so 8.3 hours + 3.5 = 11.8 hours , and the time needed to wait for traffic light say 1 hour / day. Then
11.8 + 1 = 12.8 Hours..

the 12.8 hours doesn't including search/wait for customer = need to pick up one customer immediately after current one go down. say spend 20 min per trip to look for new customer is also fair right? (coz certainly in malysia / KL there is not just one taxi driver who are in the competition for customer and bare in mind not all malaysian take taxi when in average each household have at least 2 car)

so 20 trip (you said) x 20 minutes = 6.7 Hours , give discount = 6 hours

= 12.8 hours + 6 Hours = 18.8 hours , a day have 24 hours .Hence , left 5.2 Hours to sleep + bath and no TV time, No Yum Cha session with fren, No family time, No Sports time and repeat the same cycle for 30 days a month can earn RM 4200/month . Is these your idea of working hard? Hope the driver under such condition don't need to see doctor every now and then.

So the conclusion is work 18.8 Hours/ day and earn 140.00 ( earn approx. RM7.50/ hour ) ,and under the following circumstances...

No medical benefit, No KWSP , No Sosco , No paid sick leave , No paid annual leave

*** Form 4 or 5 student working part time can get minimum RM 3.50 / hour ...

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Lol. No need air leteik?

raw material? Wall of bull shit.

population?

total revenue?

confirm untung? No loss?

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so u unlicensed wanna charge same amount as licensed taxi? convert NGV rm3k je, half month income can settle, and you work like 4-5 hours a day. if you rajin u earn even much more.

QUOTE(pisces88 @ Apr 16 2014, 11:55 PM)
Unlicensed KL to KLIA private car. Charge rm50 per trip to KLIA, and if lucky get passenger rm30 from KLIA back to KL, 1 day just need to pick up 4 passengers rm200 kaotim, no need pay tax, just toll fee & petrol & maintenance, if you convert to NGV even cheaper. Can get touch & go discount somemore.

rm50 macam sikit sangat wor if you using petrol.. if NGV ok la..
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very hard leh RM200 per day...
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Idiot spotted, nasi lemak and burger drop from the sky for u to sell ????????? 100% profit ???

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I already down played the income per trip, your logic say taxi don't make money during traffic jam whereas in reality the meter jumps every 30-40 secs even when not moving. waiting for traffic light also can charge as long as you have passenger, if you return with empty taxi then sorry la.

if you rajin not waiting infront of KLCC asking for rm50 per trip picking up customers in less congested areas is much easier.

i don't know where you pluck the numbers out but the rm200 for 400 minutes is pretty downplayed already since i don't want people to say i over exaggerate.

"No medical benefit, No KWSP , No Sosco , No paid sick leave , No paid annual leave "

u think those alot ah? if alot many company bungkus liao. only the insurance part where it might come in handy, if you cheapskate happen not to have one yourself.

Bonus/Sosco at most adds 10-15% of your salary.


QUOTE(wanted111who @ Apr 17 2014, 12:56 AM)
Your logic have too much false , all of it doesn't work except for the prostitution part.... I malas want bash you on all your logic, so just choose one of them, the 1st one.

Taxi.
You said run 400 minutes = 6.7 hours get RM 200.00 , minus taxi+permit rent a day about 40-50 ringgit , RM 10 ringgit for gas, Minus RM 5 (for Puspakom check and taxi maintenance/repair) ,
So clean cut earning is 140.00 /day if drove 6.7 hours a day but as human we need to eat. everyday spend 1 H 30 Min to eat/toilet break is fair right?

so 6.7 + 1.5 = 8.3 Hours .... and certainly the road doesn't belong to bapak taxi driver... congestion in KL is bad... say spend 3 and half hours in Jam ,

so 8.3 hours + 3.5 = 11.8 hours , and the time needed to wait for traffic light say 1 hour / day. Then
11.8 + 1 = 12.8 Hours..

the 12.8 hours doesn't including search/wait for customer = need to pick up one customer immediately after current one go down. say spend 20 min per trip to look for new customer is also fair right? (coz certainly in malysia / KL there is not just one taxi driver who are in the competition for customer and bare in mind not all malaysian take taxi when in average each household have at least 2 car)

so 20 trip (you said) x 20 minutes = 6.7 Hours , give discount = 6 hours

= 12.8 hours + 6 Hours = 18.8 hours , a day have 24 hours .Hence , left 5.2 Hours to sleep + bath and no TV time, No Yum Cha session with fren, No family time, No Sports time and repeat the same cycle for 30 days a month can earn RM 4200/month . Is these your idea of working hard? Hope the driver under such condition don't need to see doctor every now and then.

So the conclusion is work 18.8 Hours/ day and earn 140.00 ( earn approx. RM7.50/ hour ) ,and under the following circumstances...

No medical benefit, No KWSP , No Sosco , No paid sick leave , No paid annual leave

*** Form 4 or 5 student working part time can get minimum RM 3.50 / hour ...
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lol did you even read before posting shit?

i bet you didn't, either that or you read but cannot understand english and have to rely on inaccurate executive summary. how you pass ur exam like that?


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Idiot spotted, nasi lemak and burger drop from the sky for u to sell ????????? 100% profit ???

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Nasi Lemak seller, rm2 per pack, just need to sell 100 packs a day to make rm200.

biggrin.gif sell at rm2 x 100 = "make" rm200 per day.. so much genius ts..

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shows u can't read. did i say take home? the stall rental mah rm300 per month, burger ma cost you 2k per month, at the end of the month you still have rm4k net income. i'm not sure if they need to spend 2k on burger stocks.

nasi lemak go figure the cost la 1kg rice how much? santan how much? chilli pedas how much? come back & tell me 1 packet of nasi lemak selling for rm2 need the cost of rm1, u songlap?


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Idiot spotted, nasi lemak and burger drop from the sky for u to sell ????????? 100% profit ???

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so i should use the term earn, then use another term gross revenue, then deduct their cost and come up with gross profit, deduct their manpower, tax, equipment & come up with a net profit?

when you say you make rm200 per day in everyday english, are you implying rm200 after tax & cost?

which part in my sentence did i make it sound like you don't need any cost to run all those, even Prostitue i included the cost of hotel & condoms.

with a rm6k revenue you can easily get rm4k net.

and for those house cleaners, pretty much the cost is getting from home to the Taman, since equipments etc are provided by owners. i see an indonesian couple when 1st arrive ride kapchai, now business expand they upgrade to kancil, i bet they make more money than many non-20k /kclub members here.

just need to be rajin.

of course there are folks like you whom make rm20k per day by just sitting in aircon room but not everyone can do that.


QUOTE(ar188 @ Apr 17 2014, 09:47 AM)
Nasi Lemak seller, rm2 per pack, just need to sell 100 packs a day to make rm200.

biggrin.gif  sell at rm2 x 100 = "make" rm200 per day.. so much genius ts..
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so i should use the term earn, then use another term gross revenue, then deduct their cost and come up with gross profit, deduct their manpower, tax, equipment & come up with a net profit?

when you say you make rm200 per day in everyday english, are you implying rm200 after tax & cost?

which part in my sentence did i make it sound like you don't need any cost to run all those, even Prostitue i included the cost of hotel & condoms.

with a rm6k revenue you can easily get rm4k net.

and for those house cleaners, pretty much the cost is getting from home to the Taman, since equipments etc are provided by owners. i see an indonesian couple when 1st arrive ride kapchai, now business expand they upgrade to kancil, i bet they make more money than many non-20k /kclub members here.

just need to be rajin.

of course there are folks like you whom make rm20k per day by just sitting in aircon room but not everyone can do that.
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make = gross profit lor.

if you say sell rm200 a day then revenue lor

p.s by the way.. i only 4-5k per month, and every day go out see customer wan.. biggrin.gif
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it's not like you don't have any cost taking a full time office employment.

i know many sales folks travel allowance can't even cover actual fuel cost and have to come out from own pocket.

also you pay tax which easily takes away 2-26% of your salary unless you really sub 5k per annum.

also you can assume u getting stucked 3 hours a day in traffic to & from office no cost at all.


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The hidden cost to reach your rm200 a day is because you spent and sometimes you need to spent. For those who have car is parking, we need to eat so food! breakfast, lunch and dinner hopefully you get to skip some. If isnt car then transportation. So solution? learn to save when you can get to save! (maggi mee setiap hari) joking.
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10.Earn on some commercial or business transaction; earn as salary or wages
"How much do you make a month in your new job?"




QUOTE(ar188 @ Apr 17 2014, 09:59 AM)
make = gross profit lor.

if you say sell rm200 a day then revenue lor

p.s by the way.. i only 4-5k per month, and every day go out see customer wan..  biggrin.gif
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rm200 really nothing nowadays, 1 session of happy hour, 1 meal in a decent restaurant easily cost more than rm200 already. and you finish it up in like 1-2 hours while you have to spend 10 hours earning it in your day job.



QUOTE(HoneyPink @ Apr 17 2014, 09:41 AM)
very hard leh RM200 per day...
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make:

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"How much do you make a month in your new job?"
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U asking people to do small business n calculate daily sales as 'make', and say make equal salary. Facepalm
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MLMer makes more then that a day, if not you dont go into MLM biggrin.gif
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It's easier to say then done..
It comes down to willing buyer and seller..
You can calculate all you want but if there's no willing buyer, how can u makes sales?

When inflation started to heat up, ppl tends to spend by differentiate between needs and wants.. What's is necessities and what's is desired..

This can drag for few weeks to few months, depending on how fast we adopt to cope with the inflation..

When this happens, what do you think will happen to the market and economy?

Lets not forget, inflation heat up while our income remain the sames, meaning purchasing power getting lower. So now, what will happen??

Also recent rm depreciation, will it affect the import and export, and how will it affect us??

In business, u can't be sure about how many sales u make.. It's fluctuating.
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i dunno la maybe you operate big company got accounting departments, when at the end of the day you see the pacik counting all the cash he made today and you ask him how much he made today, he say rm300 based on what he counted, do you think he will deduct all the cost and tell you i made rm189.05? common sense brah we not talking about sdn bhd here just small time business.

the definition says both money earned via commercial business & salary so i don't see why you want to "win" so much.


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U asking people to do small business n calculate  daily sales as 'make', and say make equal salary. Facepalm
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i dunno la maybe you operate big company got accounting departments, when at the end of the day you see the pacik counting all the cash he made today and you ask him how much he made today, he say rm300 based on what he counted, do you think he will deduct all the cost and tell you i made rm189.05? common sense brah we not talking about sdn bhd here just small time business.

the definition says both money earned via commercial business & salary so i don't see why you want to "win" so much.
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salary is already your take home pay la. what else to deduct?, so if you make 3k a month then 3k lor..perhaps less 11% for EPF. sell nasilemak get 200 in pocket = make 200? usually people will just say sold 200 today.. only u will say i make 200 today from 200 sales..
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bro, when your contract says your monthly salary is rm2.5k, is it take home? don't think so. that is before tax, EPF deduction unless the company so lazy they didn't deduct.

when people ask how much you make you go take out ur payslip and start calculating and tell them i make rm2305.55 per month?

i dunno which kampung you stay in la the pacik macik all sound like professional accountants. only a nasi lemak seller would answer another nasi lemak seller their sales in terms of packets. normal folks use $$$ as a basis.

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OK la u win.

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salary is already your take home pay la. what else to deduct?, so if you make 3k a month then 3k lor..perhaps less 11% for EPF. sell nasilemak get 200 in pocket  = make 200? usually people will just say sold 200 today.. only u will say i make 200 today from 200 sales..
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so u unlicensed wanna charge same amount as licensed taxi? convert NGV rm3k je, half month income can settle, and you work like 4-5 hours a day. if you rajin u earn even much more.
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then u waste another 2hrs per day lining up juz for refilling ur tank.

QUOTE(advocado @ Apr 17 2014, 09:45 AM)
I already down played the income per trip, your logic say taxi don't make money during traffic jam whereas in reality the meter jumps every 30-40 secs even when not moving. waiting for traffic light also can charge as long as you have passenger, if you return with empty taxi then sorry la.

if you rajin not waiting infront of KLCC asking for rm50 per trip picking up customers in less congested areas is much easier.

i don't know where you pluck the numbers out but the rm200 for 400 minutes is pretty downplayed already since i don't want people to say i over exaggerate.

"No medical benefit, No KWSP , No Sosco , No paid sick leave , No paid annual leave "

u think those alot ah? if alot many company bungkus liao. only the insurance part where it might come in handy, if you cheapskate happen not to have one yourself.

Bonus/Sosco at most adds 10-15% of your salary.
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tohkeh , klia taxi kira harga per trip ... not normal taxi.
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u be smart la go que up when everyone is there and waste ur 2 hrs lo.

next time dun campur klia taxi & normal taxi & discuss in same paragraph.

KLIA taxi if stuck in jam then sorry brah, say you got jammed in traffic for 3 hours, how much is the NGV cost? you charge rm80 per trip. Or how bout this, let's assume each KLIA-KL trip takes 3 hours one way (KL to JB taxi charge rm300), how many trips can you do in 10 hours & will you not able to make rm200 a day?

you make it sound like driving a taxi is a money losing business.


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then u waste another 2hrs per day lining up juz for refilling ur tank.
tohkeh , klia taxi kira harga per trip ... not normal taxi.
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40 burgers every night, what kind of burger is that?

weedburgers?
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Those that do business, Cater to high income group. Dont cater to masses

That day i asked a Driver for a hummer that double as a taxi how much he make in a saturday. He answer 1.5k lulz. Some rich fag wanna show off pay him 400 just to keep the engine running at zouk doh.gif
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only the unlicensed taxi is illegal.

prostitution in Singapore is legal. so is selling nasi lemak & flipping burgers.

don't insult other people's profession with your so called shallow moral of justice.


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What is TS trying to explain is very true after i saw all of his good reply despite being bashed by some /k .

Well the idea behind this whole story is that, there are opportunity out there for us to do it as a part/full time (even though its low level even hot biatch wont pandang), the question whether u able to do or not lies to you. (Willingness)

Yes i do agree not every example of jobs listed on TS tered is not going to work 100% in his term RM200/day, but you can make several tweaking on certain area of it to fit/meet ur needs and it does not have to be RM200/day. And i believe there is no exaggeration on his statements.

Start small first then later go big. Well i have heard also some taxi drivers can make more money than doing regular routine by having some regular customer every day some sort like DRIVER la. (Even as part time after work)

And yes nasi lemak+ kuih seller+burger does make more money than EXECUTIVE or MANAGER out there.

Prostitution no need to say, they really make money alot. I been to this private prostitution one b4 and heard their story. (THEY MAKE TON OF MONEY OUT OF PLEASURES,DAMN)

They say put your hardwork and smartness to it, u will achieved it dont say RM200/day , RM300/day also can.

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QUOTE(advocado @ Apr 17 2014, 10:37 AM)
u be smart la go que up when everyone is there and waste ur 2 hrs lo.

next time dun campur klia taxi & normal taxi & discuss in same paragraph.

KLIA taxi if stuck in jam then sorry brah, say you got jammed in traffic for 3 hours, how much is the NGV cost? you charge rm80 per trip. Or how bout this, let's assume each KLIA-KL trip takes 3 hours one way (KL to JB taxi charge rm300), how many trips can you do in 10 hours & will you not able to make rm200 a day?

you make it sound like driving a taxi is a money losing business.
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all the while u r toking bout klia taxi. din realise sejak bila pulak bcome normal taxi??? so u expect taxi driver go fill up gas at 3am??? how many station open 24hrs? and do u realise not all station provide ngv??

and i didnt say taxi is losing moneh , juz tht its not as easy as u say.

and ur theory is juz like wat those tok kok ppl oways tok. and i knew a few of them. oways say i plan to sell this sell tht , imagine kl few millions ppls , 50% buy from me , i untung rm1 oso enuf liao lo , then 1 yr i sap sap sui earn millions. at the end they stil working like a shiat and hoping to b rich suddenly. y?? bcoz they at last realised its not tht simple math can make u rich. n certainly not tht "its easy" attitude.

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dayum, /k/ would stoop so low and compare with prostitute.

ok la, prostitute can get at least 5 to 6k per month if she is around 18'yo~30'yo (below).

But if you think prostitute earns a lot, wait till you see the bapa ayam. laugh.gif
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Yes, if buat business, many businesses can earn u RM200 or more than RM200 a day, if the service/goods hv high demand, and constant demand..

real life situation, ull hv competitors.. if taxi only u drive, nasi lemak and burgr only u sell.. thn can become millionaire rolleyes.gif
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i mentioned about both KLIA Taxi & Normal Taxi in my 1st post. you can read right?

u passby a NGV station see not many people you mah spend 20 minutes que up la, u smart smart don't wait until no gas baru no choice 3 hours que also have to que up. 3 hours can drive to JB liao & pump NGV there.

i just say only, in the end depends on oneself, it can be easy it can be hard, but one thing for sure,

"There is no cure for laziness."




QUOTE(santaclaus @ Apr 17 2014, 10:43 AM)
all the while u r toking bout klia taxi. din realise sejak bila pulak bcome normal taxi??? so u expect taxi driver go fill up gas at 3am??? how many station open 24hrs? and do u realise not all station provide ngv?? 

and i didnt say taxi is losing moneh , juz tht its not as easy as u say.

and ur theory is juz like wat those tok kok ppl oways tok. and i knew a few of them. oways say i plan to sell this sell tht , imagine kl few millions ppls , 50% buy from me , i untung rm1 oso enuf liao lo , then 1 yr i sap sap sui earn millions. at the end they stil working like a shiat and hoping to b rich suddenly. y?? bcoz they at last realised its not tht simple math can make u rich. n certainly not tht "its easy" attitude.
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Bapa ayam illegal in Singapore.

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dayum, /k/ would stoop so low and compare with prostitute.

ok la, prostitute can get at least 5 to 6k per month if she is around 18'yo~30'yo (below).

But if you think prostitute earns a lot, wait till you see the bapa ayam. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(tiranz @ Apr 17 2014, 10:42 AM)
What is TS trying to explain is very true after i saw all of his good reply despite being bashed by some /k .

Well the idea behind this whole story is that, there are opportunity out there for us to do it as a part/full time (even though its low level even hot biatch wont pandang), the question whether u able to do or not lies to you. (Willingness)

Yes i do agree not every example of jobs listed on TS tered is not going to work 100% in his term RM200/day, but you can make several tweaking on certain area of it to fit/meet ur needs and it does not have to be RM200/day. And i believe there is no exaggeration on his statements.

Start small first then later go big. Well i have heard also some taxi drivers can make more money than doing regular routine by having some regular customer every day some sort like DRIVER la. (Even as part time after work)

And yes nasi lemak+ kuih seller+burger does make more money than EXECUTIVE or MANAGER out there.

Prostitution no need to say, they really make money alot. I been to this private prostitution one b4 and heard their story. (THEY MAKE TON OF MONEY OUT OF PLEASURES,DAMN)

They say put your hardwork and smartness to it, u will achieved it dont say RM200/day , RM300/day also can.

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I think no one disagree with the hardworking part dude. The only thing which we would like to highlight here was it wasn't as simple what he assume it to be. talking about 6.7 hours being a taxi driver bringing home that amount of income. talking about prostitute having 2 clients a day can kau tim.. His day dreaming with his assumption.

QUOTE(santaclaus @ Apr 17 2014, 10:43 AM)
all the while u r toking bout klia taxi. din realise sejak bila pulak bcome normal taxi??? so u expect taxi driver go fill up gas at 3am??? how many station open 24hrs? and do u realise not all station provide ngv?? 

and i didnt say taxi is losing moneh , juz tht its not as easy as u say.

and ur theory is juz like wat those tok kok ppl oways tok. and i knew a few of them. oways say i plan to sell this sell tht , imagine kl few millions ppls , 50% buy from me , i untung rm1 oso enuf liao lo , then 1 yr i sap sap sui earn millions. at the end they stil working like a shiat and hoping to b rich suddenly. y?? bcoz they at last realised its not tht simple math can make u rich. n certainly not tht "its easy" attitude.
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ignore the fellow. he assume those hardcore labor intensive jobs as easy. You know where his heading the moment he touches the topic of prostitution. talking about sleeping with 2 clients a day and talking as if all the money made on the day goes directly into the pocket without any set backs.
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well i certainly don't see a row of nasi lemak stalls or a row of burger stalls.

u think normal pacik & macik is like ur Old Town Ipoh or Starbucks CEO meh? got tons of money just wanna burn some to start a war with each other purposely open a shop next to each other.

Pacik & Macik knows if they open stalls side by side, they hurt each other only, only consumers benefit. They just want cari rezeki not win a competition.

The closest stalls i see is still 100 meters away and facing different sides of the road.



QUOTE(Ericz @ Apr 17 2014, 10:53 AM)
Yes, if buat business, many businesses can earn u RM200 or more than RM200 a day, if the service/goods hv high demand, and constant demand..

real life situation, ull hv competitors.. if taxi only u drive, nasi lemak and burgr only u sell.. thn can become millionaire  rolleyes.gif
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I agree with ts, chicken rice selling one plate about 5 ringgit one day easily over 200 ringgit. Gross, confirm they don't just sell 40 packs/ plate of chicken rice.
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so prostitutes need to have how many clients to make rm200 a day?

u smart smart dun prostitute in Malaysia la 1 session BBJ rm50? u risk being arrested or even worse.

Singapore is open for prostitution, you just need to undergo periodic medical checkup. Like someone said, $100 a session even Geylang might not able to find such deal.

Everyone has their talent, and not every job works on them. But if you have talent, the money is there for you. If you don't have talent, work harder lo.

U know JB taxi earn how much for 1 trip? 25minutes drive can make rm40 liao. Yes they don't follow meter, or their meter is tweaked, but you saying rm200 is alot and cennot be achieved in 6 hours. They make so much money they can afford to wait at shopping center and wait for big fishes & spend the rest of the day in Coffee shops.

But to many rm200 a day is astronomical. Cannot blame them la. Never seen big money.



QUOTE(kidmad @ Apr 17 2014, 10:55 AM)
I think no one disagree with the hardworking part dude. The only thing which we would like to highlight here was it wasn't as simple what he assume it to be. talking about 6.7 hours being a taxi driver bringing home that amount of income. talking about prostitute having 2 clients a day can kau tim.. His day dreaming with his assumption.
ignore the fellow. he assume those hardcore labor intensive jobs as easy. You know where his heading the moment he touches the topic of prostitution. talking about sleeping with 2 clients a day and talking as if all the money made on the day goes directly into the pocket without any set backs.
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QUOTE(advocado @ Apr 16 2014, 10:09 PM)
I think most people don't make rm200 a day by working their asses off their full time employment, well most people except /k tards 20k/month average.

All you need to do is make rm200 a day 30 days you get rm6k a month. rm200 in today's standard is pretty much rm50 10 years ago. Groceries at Cold Storage for 1 week already more than rm200, chocolate la, yoghurt la, honey, ice-cream etc.

I did a simple calculation, i see many  jobs can easily generate rm200 income a day.

Taxi say rm10 per trip per 20 minutes, you just need to run 20 trips which is 400 minutes (6.7hours) to generate rm200, you just need to keep picking up passengers and don't try to charge rm30 for 5km trip and spend 1 hour on lunch & breaks. Taking gas, maintenance & license fees into account, one can still easily take home rm4k per month.

Nasi Lemak seller, rm2 per pack, just need to sell 100 packs a day to make rm200. put in kuih muih 50cent per piece, normal day rm200 a day shouldn't be too difficult and only need to wake up early to prefer and sell in the morning. Just need a roadside stall & small car.

Burger Stall, rm5 per burger, just need to sell 40 burgers a night to hit rm200. no need much preparation.

Unlicensed KL to KLIA private car. Charge rm50 per trip to KLIA, and if lucky get passenger rm30 from KLIA back to KL, 1 day just need to pick up 4 passengers rm200 kaotim, no need pay tax, just toll fee & petrol & maintenance, if you convert to NGV even cheaper. Can get touch & go discount somemore.

Home Cleaner, charge rm150 per month (car wash already charge rm50 per month 1 week wash 3 times) for 1 house clean once a week, need to clean 40 houses per month, 6 houses a day, 1.5 hours per house to mop floor, clean toilet, dust off tables, OK not as lucrative as the others but if lazy clean 3 houses a day can still get 3k no need pay tax.

Prostitute in Orchard Road, SGD100 per session, just need 2 session a night to make SGD200, hotel cost $SGD150 per night at Hotel 81 + condom + checkup every 3 months, if you become high class escort can charge even more per hour. It's legal and you don't pay tax.

These are just a few examples how people can make a decent living. You don't need a Graduate certificate or be professional certified to do so. It's not like asking you to be a lawyer and sell a sign paper for 3k or do operation for 5k. All these job are barely affected by bad economy like Properties/Market Shares/Insurance.

So I don't see why so many people here opening thread about how hard it is to live in KL, how hard it is just get a job that pays for rm200.

I say if you have an abled body & willing to work, you can easily make a decent living. Sure it won't be good enough to buy a Ferrari or Bangalow but at least you will survive better.

Lee Kuan Yew is right all the while. There is no Poor people, only Lazy people.
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Life it's not simple as that. Even if u r hardworking, labour intensive works that u list will not work in long term.

I prefer my job now as accountant even if I am not billionaires, & still I get >$200 per day.
After all, all account job done by clerks, opis boy etc. I just check & sign document plus give instruction/ opinion. That's all.
No need get up too early everyday & still had time layan lowyat..

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QUOTE(advocado @ Apr 17 2014, 10:58 AM)
well i certainly don't see a row of nasi lemak stalls or a row of burger stalls.

u think normal pacik & macik is like ur Old Town Ipoh or Starbucks CEO meh? got tons of money just wanna burn some to start a war with each other purposely open a shop next to each other.

Pacik & Macik knows if they open stalls side by side, they hurt each other only, only consumers benefit. They just want cari rezeki not win a competition.

The closest stalls i see is still 100 meters away and facing different sides of the road.
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yup not next to each other ofcus ~
anyway still depends on individual lar, cara dorng buat biznes.. if nasi lemak sedap, price ok, strategic location, sure untung..

for some businesses, fate does come into play.

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not everyone has an accounting degree, not everyone can be an accounting manager, if you already get >$200 per day there is no need to be here unless you would like to give others sound advises.



QUOTE(khusyairi @ Apr 17 2014, 11:08 AM)
Life it's not simple as that. Even if u r hardworking, labour intensive works that u list will not work in long term.

I prefer my job now as accountant even if I am not billionaires, & still I get >$200 per day.
After all, all account job done by clerks, opis boy etc. I just check & sign document plus give instruction/ opinion. That's all.
No need get up too early everyday & still had time layan lowyat..
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not easy to make good nasi lemak, but if you willing to learn & don't mind waking up early to prepare, it's not a problem.

most people will probably shrug it off saying I mana tau masak? well those people are better off sticking with their own line of work.


QUOTE(Ericz @ Apr 17 2014, 11:11 AM)
yup not next to each other ofcus ~
anyway still depends on individual lar, cara dorng buat biznes.. if nasi lemak sedap, price ok, strategic location, sure untung..

for some businesses, fate does come into play.

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Lmao.. base cost of nasi lemak is maybe around RM1.00-RM1.50. Sell at RM2.5 only make RM1.5 per pack. If you sell higher, nobody will buy. Then you have to pay for lesen perniagaan or duit kopi (if illegal spot), even worse. Want to make RM200 a day also susah.

inb4 TS curi all his ingredients.

True story: People who sit in office with RM2500 a month make more than makcik who sell nasi lemak.

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u songlap ah? rm1.50 to make 1 pack of nasi lemak. U think Madam Kwan restaurant? I tell u i buy Nasi Lemak 90cents only, rm2.5 get Chicken rendang already.


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Lmao.. base cost of nasi lemak is maybe around RM1.00-RM1.50. Sell at RM2.5 only make RM1.5 per pack. If you sell higher, nobody will buy. Then you have to pay for lesen perniagaan or duit kopi (if illegal spot), even worse. Want to make RM200 a day also susah.

inb4 TS curi all his ingredients.
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QUOTE(jerm57 @ Apr 17 2014, 11:20 AM)
Lmao.. base cost of nasi lemak is maybe around RM1.00-RM1.50. Sell at RM2.5 only make RM1.5 per pack. If you sell higher, nobody will buy. Then you have to pay for lesen perniagaan or duit kopi (if illegal spot), even worse. Want to make RM200 a day also susah.

inb4 TS curi all his ingredients.

True story: People who sit in office with RM2500 a month make more than makcik who sell nasi lemak.
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not everyone has an accounting degree, not everyone can be an accounting manager, if you already get >$200 per day there is no need to be here unless you would like to give others sound advises.
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My advise dont look for labour intensive job. It will effect yr health and quality of life. Can only do that labour intensive job only for short term, in case no capital.
Search knowledge as much possible to be professional. If u cant, please try to be owner of business or the person hire someone. Dont sell burger, but be owner of burger stalls franchise; & dont be prostitude plz.

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QUOTE(khusyairi @ Apr 17 2014, 11:08 AM)
Life it's not simple as that. Even if u r hardworking, labour intensive works that u list will not work in long term.

I prefer my job now as accountant even if I am not billionaires, & still I get >$200 per day.
After all, all account job done by clerks, opis boy etc. I just check & sign document plus give instruction/ opinion. That's all.
No need get up too early everyday & still had time layan lowyat..
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Gud for you buddy. Juz dont brag about your job here bro, wrong place.  shakehead.gif
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No my point is dont look for labour intensive job as TS mention.
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No my point is dont look for labour intensive job as TS mention.
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QUOTE(tiranz @ Apr 17 2014, 11:38 AM)
Not everyone can be account manager or other high end job. If there is no option in ur life, u have to do hard labour to earn as much as u can to survive.

Rocky Balboa: The world ain't all sunshine and rainbows. It is a very mean and nasty place It will beat you to your knees and keep you there permanently if you let it. You, me or nobody is going to hit as hard as life. But it ain't about how hard you're hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward, how much can you take and keep moving forward. That's how winning is done!
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Everybody had been given options at their own will by god in their life. That's why we must hardworking in no matter what we do.
But hardworking vs hard labour (intensive labour job) is two different thing. while hardworking is good, hard labour not that very well.
Intensive labour job can only do for short term & not a way to survive bcoz as we know health is not there everytime.
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QUOTE(advocado @ Apr 17 2014, 09:45 AM)
I already down played the income per trip, your logic say taxi don't make money during traffic jam whereas in reality the meter jumps every 30-40 secs even when not moving. waiting for traffic light also can charge as long as you have passenger, if you return with empty taxi then sorry la.

if you rajin not waiting infront of KLCC asking for rm50 per trip picking up customers in less congested areas is much easier.

i don't know where you pluck the numbers out but the rm200 for 400 minutes is pretty downplayed already since i don't want people to say i over exaggerate.

"No medical benefit, No KWSP , No Sosco , No paid sick leave , No paid annual leave "

u think those alot ah? if alot many company bungkus liao. only the insurance part where it might come in handy, if you cheapskate happen not to have one yourself.

Bonus/Sosco at most adds 10-15% of your salary.
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You keep saying you downplayed the earning, I also downplay the actual cost.
How much the taxi driver can earn in 20 min trip then if you keep saying downplay the earning.
I also downplayed the interval time from one customer to the next one as well, in real life,it might take more than 20 minutes to get a new customer after another. If I use 35 minutes or more , 24 hours in a day will be insufficient.

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QUOTE(khusyairi @ Apr 17 2014, 11:51 AM)
Everybody had been given options at their own will by god in their life. That's why we must hardworking in no matter what we do.
But hardworking vs hard labour (intensive labour job) is two different thing. while hardworking is good, hard labour not that very well.
Intensive labour job can only do for short term & not a way to survive bcoz as we know health is not there everytime.
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True that. I were saying if no option what will you do... Assume people who earning less than they could afford to live, if there are no option they will find these kind of jobs listed on TS tered.

Some ppl meant to do hard labour while others sit on their couch.


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You keep saying you downplayed the earning, I also downplay the actual cost.
How much the taxi driver can earn in 20 min trip then if you keep saying downplay the earning.
I also downplayed the interval time from one customer to the next one as well,  in real life,it might take more than 20 minutes to get a new customer after another. If I use 35 minutes or more , 24 hours in a day will be insufficient.

The question about epf/ Sosco is not about money. It is about social security when you're unable to work one day. Just like insurance,

And yes,  my paid annual leave and paid sick leave is really alot,. Just paid annual leave alone have 1 month, you want to give me 1 month free salary? If so come out yum cha,I show you my salary slip, you bank in money to my account ( if you said it isn't much)

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True that. I were saying if no option what will you do... Assume people who earning less than they could afford to live, if there are no option they will find these kind of jobs listed on TS tered.

Some ppl meant to do hard labour while others sit on their couch.
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I dont know what is yr religion but there is no such thing no option in Islam & Christian.
Every people got choice & can change. Dont be lazy to change & try to a better person (no matter spiritual or work), and of course god will help you.
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do you know desk jockey has higher health risk by simply sitting on their chairs for prolonged period of time during their lifespan?

and thanks for the advise, but the world doesn't work that way. everybody can flip a burger but not everyone can setup a franchise, and not all franchise is a success.

i don't see a problem for being a prostitute, it's their life, as long as they chose it sober. it's still a living.


QUOTE(khusyairi @ Apr 17 2014, 11:27 AM)
My advise dont look for labour intensive job. It will effect yr health and quality of life. Can only do that labour intensive job only for short term, in case no capital.
Search knowledge as much possible to be professional. If u cant, please try to be owner of business or the person hire someone. Dont sell burger, but be owner of burger stalls franchise; & dont be prostitude plz.
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why quoting urself lol. fine you win continue ur desk jockey job and be happy & grateful about it.

if you see some sense in my posting good on you, if you see the flaws in it and use it to improve your life, congratulations to you. i don't get a medal if someone gains success out of reading my post you know.

i'm sure there are taxi drivers who couldn't even pick up a single passenger for 3 hours, coz they asking rm30 from KLCC to K-avenue.

QUOTE(wanted111who @ Apr 17 2014, 11:58 AM)
You keep saying you downplayed the earning, I also downplay the actual cost.
How much the taxi driver can earn in 20 min trip then if you keep saying downplay the earning.
I also downplayed the interval time from one customer to the next one as well,  in real life,it might take more than 20 minutes to get a new customer after another. If I use 35 minutes or more , 24 hours in a day will be insufficient.
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hey i might consider hiring your accounting service in the future. may i know your going rate? but i don't think i'm willing to pay you rm200 per hour wo so be prepared.

QUOTE(khusyairi @ Apr 17 2014, 12:11 PM)
I dont know what is yr religion but there is no such thing no option in Islam & Christian.
Every people got choice & can change. Dont be lazy to change & try to a better person (no matter spiritual or work), and of course god will help you.
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why quoting urself lol. fine you win continue ur desk jockey job and be happy & grateful about it.

if you see some sense in my posting good on you, if you see the flaws in it and use it to improve your life, congratulations to you. i don't get a medal if someone gains success out of reading my post you know.

i'm sure there are taxi drivers who couldn't even pick up a single passenger for 3 hours, coz they asking rm30 from KLCC to K-avenue.
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i think u're on weed on all your arguments.. LEL.
you are not only generalizing every single thing on earth, you also think that your opinions are 100% superior and absolutely perfect and achievable and successful and good and flawless yadayada. u need to know whats real and whats not.
maybe some coffee can snap u back to reality?
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why would anyone wanna give you 1 month salary? even if it's rm2500, i doubt anyone would. who are you? what benefits do i get by giving you your rm2500 salary? do you donate money to the poor & needly urself? How bout blind society? They could do alot of help with your so called "high salary". Are you willing to spend 1 week out of your 1 month annual leave to help out old folks in the old folks home?

based on your attitude, i doubt so.


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do you know desk jockey has higher health risk by simply sitting on their chairs for prolonged period of time during their lifespan?

and thanks for the advise, but the world doesn't work that way. everybody can flip a burger but not everyone can setup a franchise, and not all franchise is a success.

i don't see a problem for being a prostitute, it's their life, as long as they chose it sober. it's still a living.
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Who told u to be a desk jockey? U must balance work & social life. Take care health & make sure had good rest.
Being in intensive labour work line, it will make it harder for u to get a better & quality life.

Not everybody can flip burger also. Franchise owner just an example. If cant be franchise owner, u can try be middle men who business provide service for burgers stock, bun etc. If cant be middle men business, u can be advertisors for burger business such as banner, tv commercial etc.
As long that it's not intensive labour work, u will be fine for long term.
Everybody got their own talent or expertise if he really search & want for it.

Being a prostitute, robbers, sell drug to for a living is not a real option life. Matlamat tidak akan menghalalkan cara.
We must change to a better life.

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didnt know so easy to get RM 200 per day, thanks TS, will quit my job and sell nasi lemak.
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QUOTE(khusyairi @ Apr 17 2014, 12:11 PM)
I dont know what is yr religion but there is no such thing no option in Islam & Christian.
Every people got choice & can change. Dont be lazy to change & try to a better person (no matter spiritual or work), and of course god will help you.
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Everybody mentality and thinking is different...
What u thought that would work, doesn't mean they thought about it too...
Some ppl can learn better some couldn't. U just have to accept the fact that ppl are not all equal.
Everyone is doing what they think that is best in their situation...
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Everybody mentality and thinking is different...
What u thought that would work, doesn't mean they thought about it too...
Some ppl can learn better some couldn't. U just have to accept the fact that ppl are not all equal.
Everyone is doing what they think that is best in their situation...
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Didnt I also agree that ppl not equal? Everybody got their own talent & expertise.

"Dan bahawa sesungguhnya tidak ada balasan bagi seseorang itu melainkan balasan apa yang diusahakan". (al-Najm: 39)

"Dan sesungguhnya Kami telah menetapkan kamu (dan memberi kuasa) di bumi dan Kami jadikan untuk kamu padanya (berbagai-bagai jalan) penghidupan." (al-A'raf: 168)

Mean that there are a lot a way to find income. Everyone is doing what they think that is best in their situation. But the same time, we should try to better & better.
Can be taxi driver, burger boy & other intensive labour job as long it halal & legal by any laws but if u had do that make sure it's for short term. Try to be better in future & plan for long term work.

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QUOTE(khusyairi @ Apr 17 2014, 12:11 PM)
I dont know what is yr religion but there is no such thing no option in Islam & Christian.
Every people got choice & can change. Dont be lazy to change & try to a better person (no matter spiritual or work), and of course god will help you.
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OMG why you raised religion matter here bro. Im not like saying if there is no option in life go suicide. Juz alternative type of job.
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OMG why you raised religion matter here bro. Im not like saying if there is no option in life go suicide. Juz alternative type of job.
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If there is alternative mean there is an option la. No such thing of no option.
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Kesian ts, only use calculator and never try it in real life.

Lol

OK, train your kids to.be hawker then.


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Didnt I also agree that ppl not equal? Everybody got their own talent & expertise.

"Dan bahawa sesungguhnya tidak ada balasan bagi seseorang itu melainkan balasan apa yang diusahakan". (al-Najm: 39)

"Dan sesungguhnya Kami telah menetapkan kamu (dan memberi kuasa) di bumi dan Kami jadikan untuk kamu padanya (berbagai-bagai jalan) penghidupan." (al-A'raf: 168)

Mean that there are a lot a way to find income. Everyone is doing what they think that is best in their situation. But the same time, we should try to better & better.
Can be taxi driver, burger boy & other intensive labour job as long it halal & legal by any laws but if u had do that make sure it's for short term. Try to be better in future & plan for long term work.
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Nothing is right or wrong and nothing will stay short term or long term, it changes every time like spinning wheel. Its not totally up to us to decide or remain in same state every time.

U also must remember in this world there is alternative for everything we do whether its hard labor or not. (Willingness will bring u far)

matlamat tidak semestinya harus berpandukan cara yang halal > Matlamat tidak akan menghalalkan cara (Nothing is bloody right or wrong in this world)
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lol, take over wan tan mee stall also need 5k at least ler, average cost of food is 50% of selling price (value operators is about 60%)
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If there is alternative mean there is an option la. No such thing of no option.
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I was saying if there is no option to do high end job with high end pay then better do low end job (hard labor) with reasonable amount of pay to survive.

Come on again im not saying someone to suicide.


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Nothing is right or wrong and nothing will stay short term or long term, it changes every time like spinning wheel. Its not totally up to us to decide or remain in same state every time.

U also must remember in this world there is alternative for everything we do whether its hard labor or not. (Willingness will bring u far)

matlamat tidak semestinya harus berpandukan cara yang halal > Matlamat tidak akan menghalalkan cara (Nothing is bloody right or wrong in this world)
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Naturally as human being we must identify which is right and wrong. If not we will make no different than animal. If not why we make laws.

Matlamat= nak cari rezeki
Cara= Jadi prostitute
Tp cara salah dari segi peraturan negara. Salah dari segi moral masyarakat. So xguna juga.
Itulah dimaksudkan "Matlamat tidak akan menghalalkan cara"

Alangkah lebih indah & lebih baik jika dapat capai matlamat dengan cara halal atau betul tidak kira dari segi undang-undang dan penerimaan masyarakat.

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u 200 per hour right?  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(advocado @ Apr 16 2014, 10:09 PM)
Prostitute in Orchard Road, SGD100 per session, just need 2 session a night to make SGD200, hotel cost $SGD150 per night at Hotel 81 + condom + checkup every 3 months, if you become high class escort can charge even more per hour. It's legal and you don't pay tax.

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want to pee also need to pay.. u think all those job/work dont need money to begin? burger stall how much cost? wanna sell nasi lemak how much cost? u think nasi lemak go sell by itself?
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QUOTE(advocado @ Apr 16 2014, 10:09 PM)
Prostitute in Orchard Road, SGD100 per session, just need 2 session a night to make SGD200, hotel cost $SGD150 per night at Hotel 81 + condom + checkup every 3 months, if you become high class escort can charge even more per hour. It's legal and you don't pay tax.
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You forgot to mention photoshoot modelling. For girls that want easy money but don't want to get banged (yet)

SGD 100-150 / hour for lingerie shoot
SGD 200-250 / hour for nude shoot

sometimes can top up for piap piap, sometimes its included

quality at least better and can get souvenir photos too brows.gif

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QUOTE(khusyairi @ Apr 17 2014, 02:03 PM)
Naturally as human being we must identify which is right and wrong. If not we will make no different than animal. If not why we make laws.

Matlamat= nak cari rezeki
Cara= Jadi prostitute
Tp cara salah dari segi peraturan negara. Salah dari segi moral masyarakat. So xguna juga.
Itulah dimaksudkan  "Matlamat tidak akan menghalalkan cara"
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So you were saying what the animals doing is so wrong and what we human doing so right. Well my buddy you absolutely 100% damn wrong.

I tell you again in this world there are no right or wrong, in the end result speaks louder than action. Human are easy to influence by anything because we are imperfect being.

Religion (older version of law) and Modern Law( To strengthen religion or act independently) is merely tool to control human being, created by those elites ages by ages.




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QUOTE(advocado @ Apr 16 2014, 10:09 PM)
Nasi Lemak seller, rm2 per pack, just need to sell 100 packs a day to make rm200. put in kuih muih 50cent per piece, normal day rm200 a day shouldn't be too difficult and only need to wake up early to prefer and sell in the morning. Just need a roadside stall & small car.

Burger Stall, rm5 per burger, just need to sell 40 burgers a night to hit rm200. no need much preparation.

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You forgot to mention photoshoot modelling. For girls that want easy money but don't want to get banged (yet)

SGD 100-150 / hour for lingerie shoot
SGD 200-250 / hour for nude shoot

sometimes can top up for piap piap, sometimes its included

quality at least better and can get souvenir photos too brows.gif
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So you were saying what the animals doing is so wrong and what we human doing so right. Well my buddy you absolutely 100% damn wrong.

I tell you again in this world there are no right or wrong, in the end result speaks louder than action. Human are easy to influence by anything because we are imperfect being.

Religion (older version of law) and Modern Law( To strengthen religion or act independently) is merely tool to control human being, created by those elites ages by ages.
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No, I didnt say animal so wrong, do I.
Naturally, animal can do whatever they want to do. They can their eat poops like rabbits, they also can mate with all kids like cow. It's not wrong bcoz they are animals
But we are different, we cant do that. we have laws, we have culture, we have morality so there is right & wrong for human being.
If we cant identify which is right or wrong as human being, we same like animals.

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What a load of shit. You stupid or what? Cost take from where? Your backside ah? Bills and tax mana?
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QUOTE(khusyairi @ Apr 17 2014, 02:26 PM)
No, I didnt say animal so wrong, do I.
Naturally, animal can do whatever they want to do. They can their eat poops like rabbits, they also can mate with all kids like cow. It's not wrong bcoz they are animals
But we are different, we cant do that. we have laws, we have culture, we have morality so there is right & wrong  for human being.
If we cant identify which is right or wrong as human being, we same like animals.
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We identify which is right or wrong because wanted to live in good condition due to own selfishness.

Instead of deviating too much on the topic, i was saying that there is nothing right or wrong in how we earn. If there are opportunity to earn out of it after considering whether u able to take risk or not, Why not? Juz go for it, even its hard labor.

Do you know in those age prostitution was one of the well known entertainment for kings and ministers even public and it is not wrong by any means. Until one day some one change those perception.

Who knows one day they say doing accounting job by human is wrong because of discrepancies they create, so we should let the so called computer AI or robot to do it. What u want to say? Of course u will not live that long to see it. rclxms.gif
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i don't see where you arguments are. you just another keyboard warrior whose only ability is to condemn instead of coming up with proper arguments.

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i think u're on weed on all your arguments.. LEL.
you are not only generalizing every single thing on earth, you also think that your opinions are 100% superior and absolutely perfect and achievable and successful and good and flawless yadayada. u need to know whats real and whats not.
maybe some coffee can snap u back to reality?
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not everyone is a muslim or christian, prostitutes doesn't always be illegal & criminals.

preach ur teaching elsewhere brother. maybe you can come up with a more enlightening thread?


QUOTE(khusyairi @ Apr 17 2014, 01:08 PM)
Who told u to be a desk jockey? U must balance work & social life. Take care health & make sure had good rest.
Being in intensive labour work line, it will make it harder for u to get a better & quality life.

Not everybody can flip burger also. Franchise owner just an example. If cant be franchise owner, u can try be middle men who business provide service for burgers stock, bun etc. If cant be middle men business, u can be advertisors for burger business such as banner, tv commercial etc.
As long that it's not intensive labour work, u will be fine for long term.
Everybody got their own talent or expertise if he really search & want for it.

Being a prostitute, robbers, sell drug to for a living is not a real option life. Matlamat tidak akan menghalalkan cara.
We must change to a better life.
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not really, ma IQ test only 100. i think not qualified to be top 70% in /k standard. but i like to think. got brains don't use waste la better make nata de coco out of it. have you tried life monkey brains? they open up the skull of a life monkey and give you a small spoon to scoope.

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i'm not here to impress, nor am i here to get a medal. you read you learn something good on you, you don't get anything sorry for wasting your time but your success has pretty much nothing to do with me anyway.

how bout u impress us instead of asking?

QUOTE(flyf @ Apr 17 2014, 01:56 PM)
Kesian ts, only use calculator and never try it in real life.

Lol

OK, train your kids to.be hawker then.
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better put some heart in it, if not just another failed nasi lemak seller who grew fat & obese due to having to eat all the nasi lemak coz cannot sell.

QUOTE(dlwk1988 @ Apr 17 2014, 01:11 PM)
didnt know so easy to get RM 200 per day, thanks TS, will quit my job and sell nasi lemak.
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so u unlicensed wanna charge same amount as licensed taxi? convert NGV rm3k je, half month income can settle, and you work like 4-5 hours a day. if you rajin u earn even much more.
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Do you know that NGV is very harmful to engine?
According to those taxi driver, many not going for NGV anymore as it cause the engine break down easily.
Normally will break down every 3 years. The money save from it not even enough to repair the engine.
And when change to NGV, no more warranty from the car manufacture.

You think Prostitute is a easy job? is not so easy to get 3 customer pernight plus they can't work everyday..... (period?)
You imagine your ******* been penetrate 30mins for 3 times perday for 30 days. See what will happen to you.
The more longer they work, the lower value they have, so they normally work for few years and retired. Cause no more value. or those SGD50 per shoot at geylang type.
Is not a easy money as well, they need to do a lot of thing like lick Axxhole and so on......

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then u preach don't do labour intensive work, so which low end job is not labour intensive lol.

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I was saying if there is no option to do high end job with high end pay then better do low end job (hard labor) with reasonable amount of pay to survive.

Come on again im not saying someone to suicide.
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Everybody's a prostitute to life. face it. maybe those 0.01% are exception.

You exchange your time & effort for your wage, same as a prostitute exchange her time & body for hers. In current society you call it a shame, and in many countries illegal, but then are you one of those folks that carry out banners in saying you should only work 4 days a week 7 hours a day because it's immoral to work more than those hours?



QUOTE(khusyairi @ Apr 17 2014, 02:03 PM)
Naturally as human being we must identify which is right and wrong. If not we will make no different than animal. If not why we make laws.

Matlamat= nak cari rezeki
Cara= Jadi prostitute
Tp cara salah dari segi peraturan negara. Salah dari segi moral masyarakat. So xguna juga.
Itulah dimaksudkan  "Matlamat tidak akan menghalalkan cara"

Alangkah lebih indah & lebih baik jika dapat capai matlamat dengan cara halal atau betul tidak kira dari segi undang-undang dan penerimaan masyarakat.
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bodoh nye TS, revenue is not the same as disposable income.

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photoshoot model is different story, not everyone can do it. the standard requirement is higher.

prostitute as long as your price is gooding someone will layan.

QUOTE(lonelytraveller @ Apr 17 2014, 02:10 PM)
You forgot to mention photoshoot modelling. For girls that want easy money but don't want to get banged (yet)

SGD 100-150 / hour for lingerie shoot
SGD 200-250 / hour for nude shoot

sometimes can top up for piap piap, sometimes its included

quality at least better and can get souvenir photos too brows.gif
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depends on car model bro. not all cars are suitable. be smart do research 1st before choosing a car for NGV please... older cars benefit more on NGV due to lower compression. you don't buy those with vvti, vtec one la.

you sound very familiar with SG Prostitute industry. Ex-Prostitute or frequent patron?

QUOTE(angelgemini @ Apr 17 2014, 03:01 PM)
Do you know that NGV is very harmful to engine?
According to those taxi driver, many not going for NGV anymore as it cause the engine break down easily.
Normally will break down every 3 years. The money save from it not even enough to repair the engine.
And when change to NGV, no more warranty from the car manufacture.

You think Prostitute is a easy job? is not so easy to get 3 customer pernight plus they can't work everyday..... (period?)
You imagine your ******* been penetrate 30mins for 3 times perday for 30 days. See what will happen to you.
The more longer they work, the lower value they have, so they normally work for few years and retired. Cause no more value. or those SGD50 per shoot at geylang type.
Is not a easy money as well, they need to do a lot of thing like lick Axxhole and so on......
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you doing some MLM or Ponzi scheme? care to share some info?

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some guy was saying you need rm1.50 to make a pack of nasi lemak and sell it for rm1.90. but MAS will spend more on their nasi lemak kosong.

go Tesco you can figure out how much a pack of Ramli cost, minus 10% for bulk buy you can figure out the cost.

the road side stall i dunno maybe rental rm3k per month???



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u nid how much fund to prepare ingredients for burger and nasi lemak? that one no need kira? rugi la you doh.gif
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Everybody's a prostitute to life. face it. maybe those 0.01% are exception.

You exchange your time & effort for your wage, same as a prostitute exchange her time & body for hers. In current society you call it a shame, and in many countries illegal, but then are you one of those folks that carry out banners in saying you should only work 4 days a week 7 hours a day because it's immoral to work more than those hours?
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you can start by selling your shit to fertilizing company.

tax? what tax?

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What a load of shit. You stupid or what? Cost take from where? Your backside ah? Bills and tax mana?
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Aiyo, technically what TS posted is not wrong, even though a bit exaggerated...most people selling food, the profit margin is at least 100%, meaning if they sell something for RM2, the cost is only RM1 or less. So technically all of you arguing about cost, I really don't think that the cost is the main issue here.

Then again the real issue which makes it not as simple as TS says is...how can you sell such amounts/volume of your product? For a burger stall to sell 40 burgers in a day is not exactly easy as there's just too many burger stalls around, plus you also need to make sure your burger tastes good in order to compete with the other stalls.

The same applies for all the other examples given...its not just about working hard, its also about talent and how good you can make your prodcut, if your product is crap...how hard you work also no use la.
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which part is abit exaggeratedi correct it.

so you saying a packet of nasi lemak selling for rm1.00 cost 50cent to make? a packet of teh tarik will actually cost 80cents to make?

if you can sell 40 burgers you are doing well above average liao, 40 burgers 1 night is like selling 4 burgers in 1 hour. in my place there is only 1 burger stall within 300 meters radius. there's only 2-3 stalls around the whole area.

if you sell 20 burgers per night, you already making more money than average in /k. bear in mind it's rm5 per burger, no egg no extra cheese extra patty yo.

if you don't have talent you can always pump more heart into it. making burger is not rocket science. you don't need to win an award for people to continue buy from you.

but then again what's the attitude of average Malaysians?



QUOTE(scorptim @ Apr 17 2014, 03:14 PM)
Aiyo, technically what TS posted is not wrong, even though a bit exaggerated...most people selling food, the profit margin is at least 100%, meaning if they sell something for RM2, the cost is only RM1 or less. So technically all of you arguing about cost, I really don't think that the cost is the main issue here.

Then again the real issue which makes it not as simple as TS says is...how can you sell such amounts/volume of your product? For a burger stall to sell 40 burgers in a day is not exactly easy as there's just too many burger stalls around, plus you also need to make sure your burger tastes good in order to compete with the other stalls.

The same applies for all the other examples given...its not just about working hard, its also about talent and how good you can make your prodcut, if your product is crap...how hard you work also no use la.
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QUOTE(khusyairi @ Apr 17 2014, 02:26 PM)
No, I didnt say animal so wrong, do I.
Naturally, animal can do whatever they want to do. They can their eat poops like rabbits, they also can mate with all kids like cow. It's not wrong bcoz they are animals
But we are different, we cant do that. we have laws, we have culture, we have morality so there is right & wrong  for human being.
If we cant identify which is right or wrong as human being, we same like animals.
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See this shit buddy. Got one immediate example of human perception using so called laws of religion. In the end pipul the one making perception not animal. So u better wake up even though you wont. shakehead.gif

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which part is abit exaggeratedi correct it.

so you saying a packet of nasi lemak selling for rm1.00 cost 50cent to make? a packet of teh tarik will actually cost 80cents to make?

if you can sell 40 burgers you are doing well above average liao, 40 burgers 1 night is like selling 4 burgers in 1 hour. in my place there is only 1 burger stall within 300 meters radius. there's only 2-3 stalls around the whole area.

if you sell 20 burgers per night, you already making more money than average in /k. bear in mind it's rm5 per burger, no egg no extra cheese extra patty yo.

if you don't have talent you can always pump more heart into it. making burger is not rocket science. you don't need to win an award for people to continue buy from you.

but then again what's the attitude of average Malaysians?
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wah rm5 burger no egg no cheese ... patutla untung byk ... ts ur plac sure very high end pipul there eat burger mahal.

my place makcik rm5 get burger ayam + egg + cheese ...

if rm5 get burger kosong sial , i rather buy McD value meal ...
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depends which type of burger, the rm4xx one don't have eggs, cheese got, the soempos burger cost around rm5, add egg another rm1, add extra cheese forgot 70cent or what.

i never tried Ramli coz it's cheap man's burger. maybe Ramli cheaper.

and to be honest i rather eat roadside burger than McDonalds, their beef burger so dry can't even swallow without the coke.


QUOTE(santaclaus @ Apr 17 2014, 03:47 PM)
wah rm5 burger no egg no cheese ... patutla untung byk ... ts ur plac sure very high end pipul there eat burger mahal.

my place makcik rm5 get burger ayam + egg + cheese ...

if rm5 get burger kosong sial , i rather buy McD value meal ...
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depends on car model bro. not all cars are suitable. be smart do research 1st before choosing a car for NGV please... older cars benefit more on NGV due to lower compression. you don't buy those with vvti, vtec one la.

you sound very familiar with SG Prostitute industry. Ex-Prostitute or frequent patron?
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Most of malaysia taxi driver is driving Saga, and having this issue.
When saga have vvti or vtec????
Please research more first.

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which saga? Saga FLX has campro right? and the engine is high compression type. so you will need to detune the engine to reduce knocking when switching to NGV. most shops don't do engine tuning.


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Most of malaysia taxi driver is driving Saga, and having this issue.
When saga have vvti or vtec????
Please research more first.
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QUOTE(advocado @ Apr 17 2014, 03:22 PM)
which part is abit exaggeratedi correct it.

so you saying a packet of nasi lemak selling for rm1.00 cost 50cent to make? a packet of teh tarik will actually cost 80cents to make?

if you can sell 40 burgers you are doing well above average liao, 40 burgers 1 night is like selling 4 burgers in 1 hour. in my place there is only 1 burger stall within 300 meters radius. there's only 2-3 stalls around the whole area.

if you sell 20 burgers per night, you already making more money than average in /k. bear in mind it's rm5 per burger, no egg no extra cheese extra patty yo.

if you don't have talent you can always pump more heart into it. making burger is not rocket science. you don't need to win an award for people to continue buy from you.

but then again what's the attitude of average Malaysians?
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I said AT LEAST 100% profit margin, which means it could be more....things like teh tarik all profit margin would be around 500% easily, the cost most likely 20 to 30 cents only.

correct its 4 burgers in 1 hour, but you also know makan business la, its not rapid flow of customers whole day, certain hours of the day there would hardly be people buying burger from you. for the hours you did not sell anything, you need to accumulate your taregt to the next hour and so on. There is no guarantee you can sell 4 burgers an hour. Do you personally know people who sell burgers? why not try ask the abang yg selling burger how many burger he can sell in a day...40 is not as easy a target to achieve as you make it sound....if sell 20 burgers a day...lets assume rm2 is your cost per burger...the balance rm3x20 = rm60 per day = RM1800 per month (including weekends). Seriously, how many ppl work for rm1800 per month including weekends, if got they memang sohai la.

I believe that everyone needs to find things which they are suited to doing, something that they have at least some talent in. Of course you can pump more heart into it, but how far will heart alone take you? Especially when it involves cooking, talent is very important, people not gonna buy burger from you if the taste/quality is just about the same with what they are able to fix for themselves at home. It doesn't need to be great, but it needs to be good tasting at least to have a steady flow of customers.

On the bolded part, where the hell do you live that burger with no egg no extra cheese and patty to be RM5???? i think if just burger biasa with single patty maximum also RM4 in most places....seriously you sell burger biasa rm5...then really don't expect much people to buy it unless the taste is FEET LICKING GOOD.
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i don't need so much money brah, at least not for my self.

i'm just a keyboard warrior. am happy with my job. but i see people talking about sad getting 2k salary i though i share some views.

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depends which burger they have rm3,4,5. egg is never standard, extra cheese, extra patty all add abit but at most rm2.

burger stalls sell at night coz night time only mamak & 7-11 open, some old town & mcD. if you open near cyber cafe 1 hour 4 burger should not be a problem.

also burger stalls rely on their own special sauce to make a difference.

sadly most people don't know where they excel, or what their talent is, ever sadder thing is many don't even get to know themselves.

QUOTE(scorptim @ Apr 17 2014, 04:31 PM)
I said AT LEAST 100% profit margin, which means it could be more....things like teh tarik all profit margin would be around 500% easily, the cost most likely 20 to 30 cents only.

correct its 4 burgers in 1 hour, but you also know makan business la, its not rapid flow of customers whole day, certain hours of the day there would hardly be people buying burger from you. for the hours you did not sell anything, you need to accumulate your taregt to the next hour and so on. There is no guarantee you can sell 4 burgers an hour. Do you personally know people who sell burgers? why not try ask the abang yg selling burger how many burger he can sell in a day...40 is not as easy a target to achieve as you make it sound....if sell 20 burgers a day...lets assume rm2 is your cost per burger...the balance rm3x20 = rm60 per day = RM1800 per month (including weekends). Seriously, how many ppl work for rm1800 per month including weekends, if got they memang sohai la.

I believe that everyone needs to find things which they are suited to doing, something that they have at least some talent in. Of course you can pump more heart into it, but how far will heart alone take you? Especially when it involves cooking, talent is very important, people not gonna buy burger from you if the taste/quality is just about the same with what they are able to fix for themselves at home. It doesn't need to be great, but it needs to be good tasting at least to have a steady flow of customers.

On the bolded part, where the hell do you live that burger with no egg no extra cheese and patty to be RM5???? i think if just burger biasa with single patty maximum also RM4 in most places....seriously you sell burger biasa rm5...then really don't expect much people to buy it unless the taste is FEET LICKING GOOD.
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i don't need so much money brah, at least not for my self.

i'm just a keyboard warrior. am happy with my job. but i see people talking about sad getting 2k salary i though i share some views.
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acterly your concept is correct that people just need to do something that is just not run of the mill text book solution, if they want to earn more.. but I;m assuming you should be getting over 6k at least by now right? biggrin.gif must apply what you preach ma tongue.gif
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QUOTE(advocado @ Apr 17 2014, 04:38 PM)
depends which burger they have rm3,4,5. egg is never standard, extra cheese, extra patty all add abit but at most rm2.

burger stalls sell at night coz night time only mamak & 7-11 open, some old town & mcD. if you open near cyber cafe 1 hour 4 burger should not be a problem.

also burger stalls rely on their own special sauce to make a difference.

sadly most people don't know where they excel, or what their talent is, ever sadder thing is many don't even get to know themselves.
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Oh ok. Luckily not all RM5. haha.

Open near cyber cafe usually have to deal/kamcing with the cc owner and need to have lobang, some places even need to pay money to majlis perbandaran and kaki pau..but I get your point, location is definitely important.

I would say that the bolded part is the main problem, if everyone know what their talent is and concentrate on it then they will excel for sure regardless where or how they do it, but in all I do agree with you that its not hard (not super easy either, but definitely not hard) to make more than 2k if you're not picky =)
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depends which burger they have rm3,4,5. egg is never standard, extra cheese, extra patty all add abit but at most rm2.

burger stalls sell at night coz night time only mamak & 7-11 open, some old town & mcD. if you open near cyber cafe 1 hour 4 burger should not be a problem.

also burger stalls rely on their own special sauce to make a difference.

sadly most people don't know where they excel, or what their talent is, ever sadder thing is many don't even get to know themselves.
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Ts, there's a few reasons for ppl to suffer in poverty.

Opportunity, family reason, personality etc etc.

The points u raised were valid, though Not as simple as it sounds

Anyway, hope your thread will inspire some out there that are lost, and find their path in life

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which saga? Saga FLX has campro right? and the engine is high compression type. so you will need to detune the engine to reduce knocking when switching to NGV. most shops don't do engine tuning.
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wow. my saga got campro de? nvm i go see got or not

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Ts spent whole afternoon in /k

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no i don't. i'm sub 2k /k klub member.

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acterly your concept is correct that people just need to do something that is just not run of the mill text book solution, if they want  to earn more.. but I;m assuming you should be getting over 6k at least by now right?  biggrin.gif must apply what you preach ma tongue.gif
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stop after 1st sentence,
easy nia, u dun work ur ass, u sell ur ass to other man, and they pay u
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TS offered such a simplified of the reality side of life. Every things is presumed to be smooth sailing. Hahaha....Get ready to be knocked down by the unpredictabilities outside the realm of your control...be it weather, legalities, competition, traffic, unfriendly humans, cost, cash, family, your own passion.

Thanks for the ideas.
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Convert to NGV still need to tune to balance between optimal settings between Petrol & NGV.

Surely Petrol & NGV still have difference right in terms of combustion properties? I assume you know abit about petrol coz it's out of my scope.

What damages the engine is mainly unwanted knocking.



tats why i'm not sure saga got what. IAFM also don't get? anyway NGV need tuning to reduce damage. lose abit power but still save more than petrol + engine repair. Or was it something about NGV is dry air so not lub

QUOTE(IluvProton @ Apr 17 2014, 05:46 PM)
wow. my saga got campro de? nvm i go see got or not
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QUOTE(advocado @ Apr 17 2014, 06:21 PM)
no i don't. i'm sub 2k /k klub member.

There is this sayin':

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sub 2k.. LOL.. sub 2k per day? brows.gif drool.gif
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i just paid rm9.50 for a Double Cheese set add large two days ago, the burger is horrible, the cheese already dried up become solid, the patties are so dry...

roadside burger make on the spot still hot when eat.

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well if open burger stall & close stall, you lose like rm3k?

you buy new house you risk even more brah when developer decides to cabut, you end up continue financing your loan, dunno now got new protection law liao?

that is why you see many folks make enough money, suka suka open stall, suka suka rehat, coz the capital is that low and profit is good that they can afford to.

try doing the same thing when you open a restaurant in a shop, see u close business or not if you close shop 1 week.



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TS offered such a simplified of the reality side of life. Every things is presumed to be smooth sailing. Hahaha....Get ready to be knocked down by the unpredictabilities outside the realm of your control...be it weather, legalities, competition, traffic, unfriendly humans, cost, cash, family, your own passion.

Thanks for the ideas.
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per month la of course.

QUOTE(ar188 @ Apr 17 2014, 06:23 PM)
sub 2k.. LOL.. sub 2k per day?  brows.gif  drool.gif
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1 way only not many people wanna do it unless they run KL-KLIA for a living, i pick u up rm50 then have to wait half an hour to get a passenger back, don't have time for that.

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if anyone willing to pick me up from Cheras, go LCCT/KLIA for RM50, feel free to PM..
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if german car, can charge double?  laugh.gif
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1 way only not many people wanna do it unless they run KL-KLIA for a living, i pick u up rm50 then have to wait half an hour to get a passenger back, don't have time for that.
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correct. which was why earlier i said RM50 too low lu sweat.gif but if NGV i think can consider do it la..
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For those unlicensed KLIA private limos, they do it for a living, they don't mind waiting half an hour to get a passenger, for me i'm just too lazy.

Licensed taxi charge rm80 to KLIA, i mention rm50 to be safe, you can do rm70 or rm80 if you drive a better car.

QUOTE(pisces88 @ Apr 17 2014, 07:51 PM)
cannot, TS say cannot charge like normal taxi, because you no taxi license  biggrin.gif
correct. which was why earlier i said RM50 too low lu sweat.gif but if NGV i think can consider do it la..
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say only, say what also can la...... why not u try it out and then post
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u bonus 40k.  icon_idea.gif  icon_idea.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif
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if german car, can charge double?  laugh.gif
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my saga + hensem unker ahmad can or not?

QUOTE(Amy09 @ Apr 17 2014, 03:02 PM)
say only, say what also can la...... why not u try it out and then post
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alot fresh ppl nowaday complaint not enough money.
k. let me tell u the freshy complaint....

his salary in ipoh are 2.2k no allowance and etc. office admin job only. basically just filter those acc due and pass to salesman to do collection.
1st 2 months only get iphone5s. then the 4th month change kancil to new vavi then go dining at those min RM 60-100 per person.
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never direct complaint to me since he not direct under me but i go belanja them, go out they say not enough. so i did ask how they spend. really like bos. doh.gif
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QUOTE(IluvProton @ Apr 17 2014, 08:10 PM)
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my saga + hensem unker ahmad can or not?
alot fresh ppl nowaday complaint not enough money.
k. let me tell u the freshy complaint....

his salary in ipoh are 2.2k no allowance and etc. office admin job only. basically just filter those acc due and pass to salesman to do collection.
1st 2 months only get iphone5s. then the 4th month change kancil to new vavi then go dining at those min RM 60-100 per person.
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never direct complaint to me since he not direct under me but i go belanja them, go out they say not enough. so i did ask how they spend. really like bos.  doh.gif
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i cannot tahan when ppl buy vavi, they bought the most expensive one

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like rm4xk.
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i cannot tahan when ppl buy vavi, they bought the most expensive one

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like rm4xk.
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they wan sit in my frend vios / city
that day i go out they come in grabing starbucks laugh.gif while i tapau ipoh kopi / leung sui
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m... they dun sit in my saga  tongue.gif
they wan sit in my frend vios / city
that day i go out they come in grabing starbucks  laugh.gif while i tapau ipoh kopi / leung sui
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ini cheapskate cinapek, bought merc keep at home one    laugh.gif
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sudah jual. i pakai saga nia. biggrin.gif me is poorfag icon_idea.gif
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mana ada

sudah jual. i pakai saga nia. biggrin.gif me is poorfag  icon_idea.gif
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apek bought merc, cannot afford maintenance, sold merc.
inbe4 bankrupt because of car loan


dont be like him

now afford kopi peng only



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apek bought merc, cannot afford maintenance, sold merc.
inbe4 bankrupt because of car loan
dont be like him

now afford kopi peng only
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ya lo. even new staff pakai vios / city jor
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ya lo. even new staff pakai vios / city jor
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increment for them no need already  brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif
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TS said, if jual RM2 x 100 pek = RM200 sales, means total pure profits of RM200.
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QUOTE(advocado @ Apr 16 2014, 10:28 PM)
u cannot read or what? i didn't say cost meh? i say earn rm200 a day, i also said got cost, but cost how much? still take home anytime more than ur typical /k opis salary 2k a month la.

u take rm2k salary no need cost la?

u walk to work ah? u drink opis water use opis utility, eat free left over rice ah? if u calculate in ur cost u lagi rugi. Coz u pay tax.
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bro u sound so pro, hw much u earn a month then?
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sub 2k.

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bro u sound so pro, hw much u earn a month then?
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QUOTE(advocado @ Apr 16 2014, 10:13 PM)
taking cost into account at most ma cost the burger guy rm2k a month? still have 4k take home.
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First you talk about RM200/day and RM6k/month and now you talk about RM4k/mo?
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1 month la!

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Another wall of talk cock sing song by a 2"..boi..the real world is not as easy.u r number is just math..
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yea make rm200 a day, deduct all the cost, still make gross profit rm4k. still better than most /k

u salary rm6k after tax & epf deduction left how much?


QUOTE(winkiedilwy @ Apr 17 2014, 09:57 PM)
First you talk about RM200/day and RM6k/month and now you talk about RM4k/mo?
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1 month la!
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well the same math that calculated the last known location of MH370.

QUOTE(hZa23 @ Apr 17 2014, 10:00 PM)
Another wall of talk cock sing song by a 2"..boi..the real world is not as easy.u r number is just math..
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1 month 2k want bukak tered  shakehead.gif
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for reworks also need workmanship + electric + and etc. laugh.gif

like awning bar drool.gif RM 2 per bar workmanship if i can get la. brows.gif
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i never say net profit.

i say make rm200, AR88 insist when i say make rm200 means net profit, already shown him dictionary definition of "Make" - 11.Earn on some commercial or business transaction; earn as salary or wages "How much do you make a month in your new job?"

he insist when you tell people how much salary you make per month it's the number after tax & EPF deduction, and when nasi lemak pacik macik tell you how much they make today they actually tell you the net profit after deducting all their cost.

i dun wan argue anymore let him win lo. coz he successful person fart also smells nice right?

seriously who would tell another person his salary after deducting all the tax & EPF, maybe accountants or mathematicians?


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if PURE profits .... wheres the good purchase? even my workshop
for reworks also need workmanship + electric + and etc.  laugh.gif

like awning bar  drool.gif  RM 2 per bar workmanship if i can get la.  brows.gif
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QUOTE(advocado @ Apr 17 2014, 01:02 PM)
why would anyone wanna give you 1 month salary? even if it's rm2500, i doubt anyone would. who are you? what benefits do i get by giving you your rm2500 salary? do you donate money to the poor & needly urself? How bout blind society? They could do alot of help with your so called "high salary". Are you willing to spend 1 week out of your 1 month annual leave to help out old folks in the old folks home?

based on your attitude, i doubt so.
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Lol, i thought u said i am cheapskate? epf, sosco, paid leave , paid sick leave also want count... and it doesn't earn me a lot of money... well since if you said it isn't a big money then you give me, i dun mind be a cheapskate if you bank in money to me... otherwise if you don't and can't bank in 1 month salary to me, dun insult me / anyone by saying they are cheapskate got it? because if i am cheapskate by counting those epf, sosco, paid leave and paid sick leave then you are cheapskate as well because like you mention, it is money and you will not give me (even though you felt it is peanut), and nobody will give me.

Don't take me wrong, i don't like take free money from anyone and i am capable of earning more than enough for myself and i am proud of it. I certainly wouldn't want your money for nothing. just bare in mind, the next time when you're saying someone cheapskate , think about yourself 1st. I hate it when people insult another person action/ideoogy when themselves do the same thing / think the same way.

Chinese saying ''got mouth said other, no mouth said ownself''

Finally my friend, you have no right to judge my attitude, don't act highly and put yourself as a saint.. i know what i have done and doesn't need you to be my judged, and even if i'm donating or helping other , i don't need to tell anyone, it is within my own conscious and i don't need to tell the entire world .right?
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QUOTE(advocado @ Apr 17 2014, 05:19 PM)
i never say net profit.

i say make rm200, AR88 insist when i say make rm200 means net profit, already shown him dictionary definition of "Make" - 11.Earn on some commercial or business transaction; earn as salary or wages "How much do you make a month in your new job?"

he insist when you tell people how much salary you make per month it's the number after tax & EPF deduction, and when nasi lemak pacik macik tell you how much they make today they actually tell you the net profit after deducting all their cost.

i dun wan argue anymore let him win lo. coz he successful person fart also smells nice right?

seriously who would tell another person his salary after deducting all the tax & EPF, maybe accountants or mathematicians?
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lolz !!!! this win so much

make RM 200 per day not hard. but consistant earning is hard.
eg, selling rose during v day. you can also earn 2k per day or more. but rest of day u need to think urself
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100 packet of nasi lemak might be too many, but how many packets of nasi lemak can a full rice tong pack? coz all i know the nasi lemak stall nearby always sell out after 9.30am. Then they also sell beehon & mee. Chicken Rendang & Sotong. and kuih & kari pap. So just 1 morning probably make more than rm200. Their profit margin probably more than 200%, but then some people claim cost of a rm1.90 nasi lemak is actually rm1.50 and only 50cent profit. i dunno maybe he ex-MAS employee. songlap all the timun.

But they don't work on weekends. coz they don't need to.


QUOTE(IluvProton @ Apr 17 2014, 10:22 PM)
lolz !!!! this win so much

make RM 200 per day not hard. but consistant earning is hard.
eg, selling rose during v day. you can also earn 2k per day or more. but rest of day u need to think urself
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didn't bother reading the whole sentence but i never say you cheapskate. are you imagining things seriously? when i say paid sick leave also want count? you talking to your imaginative friend?

and in short no i won't give you your one month salary rm2.5k, dun say rm2.5k, rm10 i also won't give. why should i? do you simply open ur butthole for other men, coz butthole is free ma, only shit comes out, you should gladly accept when someone offers to get it.

your attitude is already written in your post. maybe you are proud about your self, but that doesn't mean others need to feel proud about you.


QUOTE(wanted111who @ Apr 17 2014, 10:20 PM)
Lol, i thought u said i am cheapskate? epf, sosco, paid leave , paid sick leave also want count... and it doesn't earn me a lot of money... well since if you said it isn't a big money then you give me, i dun mind be a cheapskate if you bank in money to me... otherwise if you don't and can't bank in 1 month salary to me, dun insult me / anyone by saying they are cheapskate got it? because if i am cheapskate by counting those epf, sosco, paid leave and paid sick leave then you are cheapskate as well because like you mention, it is money and you will not give me (even though you felt it is peanut), and nobody will give me.

Don't take me wrong, i don't like take free money from anyone and i am capable of earning more than enough for myself and i am proud of it. I certainly wouldn't want your money for nothing. just bare in mind, the next time when you're saying someone cheapskate , think about yourself 1st. I hate it when people insult another person action/ideoogy when themselves do the same thing / think the same way.

Chinese saying ''got mouth said other, no mouth said ownself''

Finally my friend, you have no right to judge my attitude, don't act highly and put yourself as a saint..  i know what i have done and doesn't need you to be my judged, and even if i'm donating or helping other , i don't need to tell anyone, it is within my own conscious and i don't need to tell the entire world .right?
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100 packet of nasi lemak might be too many, but how many packets of nasi lemak can a full rice tong pack? coz all i know the nasi lemak stall nearby always sell out after 9.30am. Then they also sell beehon & mee. Chicken Rendang & Sotong. and kuih & kari pap. So just 1 morning probably make more than rm200. Their profit margin probably more than 200%, but then some people claim cost of a rm1.90 nasi lemak is actually rm1.50 and only 50cent profit. i dunno maybe he ex-MAS employee. songlap all the timun.

But they don't work on weekends. coz they don't need to.
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nasi lemak cost? lel ~ cost is around 50cent if rm 1.50 selling.

anyway, earning 2-4k usually not hard. you imagine those selling sirap at pasar malam? they able to sell during night 4hrs only around 100-200pack. profit margin around 1 ringgit per bag. day time maybe you need to work like regular job 9-5pm. weekly you do part time sell sirap like 3 time per week ? so ?

not really impossible but tiring. only your will is strong enough or not? cost setting up pasar malam stall? if you got car big enough to fit 6 foot table. all less than 300 ringgit. should try it. no harm
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i say already there is no poor people only lazy people.

i don't know how much a 10kg packet of rice & santan cost la, timun, ikan bilis, belacan, egg should cost few cents only. but if 1 nasi lemak cost 50cent it's abit high. i would imagine the chicken rendang would have lower profit margin because the cost for chicken is actually higher, unless Madam Kwan.

i don't know air sirap cost, but teh tarik ice 1 pack can easily sell rm 1.60, the cost i don't think more than few cents since they use those big big tea bags, water for 1 packet is probably 1cent, ice 1 big bag few ringgit only so 5 icecubes maybe another 10cent? Plastic bag actually cost the most, maybe 15cent?

in the end nasi lemak burger just an example, i never say no cost involve, but people go office no need cost? 3 hours jam no cost? petrol, LRT, bus no cost? find house near KL/PJ pay more rent no need cost? how many people actually lucky enough to walk to work? people assume because they take salary, no cost included. Remember you pay full tax on your salary while business people can play around with their numbers and small time business no need auditor.



QUOTE(IluvProton @ Apr 17 2014, 10:34 PM)
nasi lemak cost? lel ~ cost is around 50cent if rm 1.50 selling.

anyway, earning 2-4k usually not hard. you imagine those selling sirap at pasar malam? they able to sell during night 4hrs only around 100-200pack. profit margin around 1 ringgit per bag. day time maybe you need to work like regular job 9-5pm. weekly you do part time sell sirap like 3 time per week ? so ?

not really impossible but tiring. only your will is strong enough or not? cost setting up pasar malam stall? if you got car big enough to fit 6 foot table. all less than 300 ringgit. should try it. no harm
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QUOTE(advocado @ Apr 17 2014, 05:43 PM)
i say already there is no poor people only lazy people.

i don't know how much a 10kg packet of rice & santan cost la, timun, ikan bilis, belacan, egg should cost few cents only. but if 1 nasi lemak cost 50cent it's abit high. i would imagine the chicken rendang would have lower profit margin because the cost for chicken is actually higher, unless Madam Kwan.

i don't know air sirap cost, but teh tarik ice 1 pack can easily sell rm 1.60, the cost i don't think more than few cents since they use those big big tea bags, water for 1 packet is probably 1cent, ice 1 big bag few ringgit only so 5 icecubes maybe another 10cent? Plastic bag actually cost the most, maybe 15cent?

in the end nasi lemak burger just an example, i never say no cost involve, but people go office no need cost? 3 hours jam no cost? petrol, LRT, bus no cost? find house near KL/PJ pay more rent no need cost? how many people actually lucky enough to walk to work? people assume because they take salary, no cost included. Remember you pay full tax on your salary while business people can play around with their numbers and small time business no need auditor.
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didn't bother reading the whole sentence but i never say you cheapskate. are you imagining things seriously? when i say paid sick leave also want count? you talking to your imaginative friend?

and in short no i won't give you your one month salary rm2.5k, dun say rm2.5k, rm10 i also won't give. why should i? do you simply open ur butthole for other men, coz butthole is free ma, only shit comes out, you should gladly accept when someone offers to get it.

your attitude is already written in your post. maybe you are proud about your self, but that doesn't mean others need to feel proud about you.
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I think i need to return you quote back to you , i found it at page 5 , posted by you today at around 9.46 am

QUOTE(advocado @ Apr 17 2014, 09:46 AM)
lol did you even read before posting shit?

i bet you didn't, either that or you read but cannot understand english and have to rely on inaccurate executive summary. how you pass ur exam like that?
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I felt very nice when one advise bitting back its own master , read my article before comment please.

Edited - i clearly stated on my previous comment, i don't need your money, not even a single cent... got it? and yes you did said I am cheapskate.. go read back your previous post... god damn it.. ITS YOUR OWN POST!!!!.DON'T FORGET YOUR OWN POST PLEASE.

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still need to pura pura la main wayang, file tax monthly income rm300 small business mah not earn much one. i sell 1 packet nasi lemak rm1.50, cost already rm1.30 i make 20cents per pack only la bang.

sometimes those chinese makan shop business like full house all day then file tax rm1000 per month. the tax man see also shake head, sit there and count how many customers, in the end have to give kopi lol.


QUOTE(IluvProton @ Apr 17 2014, 10:46 PM)
this i agree

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can quote me 1st i dun wan search back, if i did write cheapskate and implying it on you i might take it back.

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I think i need to return you quote back to you , i found it at page 5 , posted by you today at around 9.46 am
I felt very nice when one advise bitting back its own master , read my article before comment please.
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your attitude is already written in your post. maybe you are proud about your self, but that doesn't mean others need to feel proud about you.
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and these sentence also i want to return it back to you savvy? read your own post and it clearly shows the writer are very proud of his half conscious theory, everybody else opinion is wrong, and only his is correct.
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can quote me 1st i dun wan search back, if i did write cheapskate and implying it on you i might take it back.
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well you are feeling proud about yourself am i wrong? i don't mean proud in terms of "sombong" you can see that right? i just said other people don't need to feel proud about you. they still have the freedom to feel proud of you if they feel like it, but when one tells others he's proud about himself, what purpose does it make? In hope other people understand the person is proud about himself, and maybe should also feel proud for him?


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and these sentence also i want to return it back to you savvy? read your own post and it clearly shows the writer are very proud of his half conscious theory, everybody else opinion is wrong, and only his is correct.
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make RM200 in a day isnt that hard
many one shot work can exceed that price

make RM200 everyday is the challenge here
if to make 6k a month means RM200 everyday to you, that also means you have to work your ass off including saturday and sunday.

if you also need to rest, and dating, and enjoy family time, one month can consider only got 22days max (minus 4x sat and sun) you nearly have to generate an income of RM300 every working day

that is only counted for "per day", 24hours, if you still need a healthy sleep and comfortably rested lifestyle, and insist on 8 hours job daily, you have to come out a method to earn RM300 in 8 hours a day.


PS: approximately RM40 per hour.... $12.50 USD per hour job LOL

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No you have to quote me 1st then i will decide about that. right now whatever i type still stands.

QUOTE(wanted111who @ Apr 17 2014, 10:55 PM)
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make RM200 in a day isnt that hard
many one shot work can exceed that price

make RM200 everyday is the challenge here
if to make 6k a month means RM200 everyday to you, that also means you have to work your ass off including saturday and sunday.

if you also need to rest, and dating, and enjoy family time, one month can consider only got 22days max (minus 4x sat and sun) you nearly have to generate an income of RM300 every working day

that is only counted for "per day", 24hours, if you still need a healthy sleep and comfortably rested lifestyle, and insist on 8 hours job daily, you have to come out a method to earn RM300 in 8 hours a day.
PS: approximately RM40 per hour.... $12.50 USD per hour job LOL
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that is why i don't use those "One Shot" type of work as example.

and yes by mathematics rm200 for 6k a months means 30 days of work, however you yourself can decide how many days of work you want to work per month.

rm200 is just a symbolic figure i'm sure you understand that right? it can be rm100, rm300, rm500 and still better than what most /k are making. Most folks here probably earn less than 3k a month.

also the examples i listed is based on 6-8 hours of work daily. stretch it abit you get standard 10 hours a day, but you can earn more than rm200 easily.

it's not like i propose you flip burgers from 10am to 6am and sleep for 4 hours.


QUOTE(9876789 @ Apr 17 2014, 10:59 PM)
make RM200 in a day isnt that hard
many one shot work can exceed that price

make RM200 everyday is the challenge here
if to make 6k a month means RM200 everyday to you, that also means you have to work your ass off including saturday and sunday.

if you also need to rest, and dating, and enjoy family time, one month can consider only got 22days max (minus 4x sat and sun) you nearly have to generate an income of RM300 every working day

that is only counted for "per day", 24hours, if you still need a healthy sleep and comfortably rested lifestyle, and insist on 8 hours job daily, you have to come out a method to earn RM300 in 8 hours a day.
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QUOTE(advocado @ Apr 17 2014, 06:03 PM)
that is why i don't use those "One Shot" type of work as example.

and yes by mathematics rm200 for 6k a months means 30 days of work, however you yourself can decide how many days of work you want to work per month.

rm200 is just a symbolic figure i'm sure you understand that right? it can be rm100, rm300, rm500 and still better than what most /k are making. Most folks here probably earn less than 3k a month.

also the examples i listed is based on 6-8 hours of work daily. stretch it abit you get standard 10 hours a day, but you can earn more than rm200 easily.

it's not like i propose you flip burgers from 10am to 6am and sleep for 4 hours.
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most think they are worth that or above

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well you know rm200 is pretty low for the examples, rm300-500 is not something impossible, those famous stalls probably can make rm1k per night. since people start being so calculative like i'm producing a financial report, i have to point out it's a symbolic number that can provide a decent lifestyle for typical malaysians.

4k-6k to most people are pretty good, unless you insist on buying a house inside KL.

Prostitutes in Geylang can earn more than $200 per night easily. But people will start saying is haram la, illegal la, a crime la.

For KLIA Licensed Taxis, you only need to do 3 round trips to make more than rm200 a day. 3 trips. that includes giving rm140 per day to the kronnies & NGV + Maintenance fees + tayar. Assuming 1 round trip takes 3 hours like you go Melaka-KL, you only need 10 hours a day. This already very worse case scenario liao.


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Bro, come over to my place here, Mahkota Cheras, the shoplots here full of kopitiams, whateever you want, you name it, you get it!

Every month change business owner, or other businessman take over the business and run it and the cycle goes on.

Why?

Because the market here is too saturated. Running your own business is very very risky. If you make it, you win. But if you dont, you burn.
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QUOTE(advocado @ Apr 17 2014, 11:03 PM)
that is why i don't use those "One Shot" type of work as example.

and yes by mathematics rm200 for 6k a months means 30 days of work, however you yourself can decide how many days of work you want to work per month.

rm200 is just a symbolic figure i'm sure you understand that right? it can be rm100, rm300, rm500 and still better than what most /k are making. Most folks here probably earn less than 3k a month.

also the examples i listed is based on 6-8 hours of work daily. stretch it abit you get standard 10 hours a day, but you can earn more than rm200 easily.

it's not like i propose you flip burgers from 10am to 6am and sleep for 4 hours.
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again kuat assumption. lol just because your making that low does not mean others are the same.. so many 24 year old peep only need to work 20 days a month taking home approx rm5k per month. no wonder you never improve hahaha. continue on with your own delusional assumptions.

consistently sitting in office makan gaji buta. >RM50 per hour.. happy sial.
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QUOTE(advocado @ Apr 17 2014, 06:14 PM)
well you know rm200 is pretty low for the examples, rm300-500 is not something impossible, those famous stalls probably can make rm1k per night. since people start being so calculative like i'm producing a financial report, i have to point out it's a symbolic number that can provide a decent lifestyle for typical malaysians.

4k-6k to most people are pretty good, unless you insist on buying a house inside KL.

Prostitutes in Geylang can earn more than $200 per night easily. But people will start saying is haram la, illegal la, a crime la.

For KLIA Licensed Taxis, you only need to do 3 round trips to make more than rm200 a day. 3 trips. that includes giving rm140 per day to the kronnies & NGV + Maintenance fees + tayar. Assuming 1 round trip takes 3 hours like you go Melaka-KL, you only need 10 hours a day. This already very worse case scenario liao.
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shoplots ke? very smart of you to invest 500k on it and close shop after 1 month lol.

QUOTE(Omochao @ Apr 17 2014, 11:15 PM)
Bro, come over to my place here, Mahkota Cheras, the shoplots here full of kopitiams, whateever you want, you name it, you get it!

Every month change business owner, or other businessman take over the business and run it and the cycle goes on.

Why?

Because the market here is too saturated. Running your own business is very very risky. If you make it, you win. But if you dont, you burn.
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shoplots ke? very smart of you to invest 500k on it and close shop after 1 month lol.
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sorry, didn't complete my sentence properly...there are lots of burger stalls here as well.

by the way, you meant to open burger stall till late in the morning?? or just doing day business??
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yea yea, then good on you and you have no reason to be here. not everybody is as fortunate as you or those many 24 year old peep. now keluar dari seluar lu.

QUOTE(kidmad @ Apr 17 2014, 11:17 PM)
again kuat assumption. lol just because your making that low does not mean others are the same.. so many 24 year old peep only need to work 20 days a month taking home approx rm5k per month. no wonder you never improve hahaha. continue on with your own delusional assumptions.

consistently sitting in office makan gaji buta. >RM50 per hour.. happy sial.
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u the 3rd or 4th person ask already.

i said sub 2k.

then you will ask, 2k per day ah.

then i will answer, 2k per month la.

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TS forgets 1 thing...

Making rm200 a day is easy..making rm200 aday EVERYDAY is the tough part. No matter what weather, your health,public holidays, seasons, etc...making rm200 everyday consistently is the tough part
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u the 3rd or 4th person ask already.

i said sub 2k.

then you will ask, 2k per day ah.

then i will answer, 2k per month la.
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so you currently the lowest income among your comment? u comfort of it?
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yea yea, then good on you and you have no reason to be here. not everybody is as fortunate as you or those many 24 year old peep. now keluar dari seluar lu.
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you do not need luck to land a better job. what difference i can see from the freshie's in my company as compared to you is that.. they don't simply make half ass assumption without proper study/findings and analysis. if you were to be hired.. i will be getting crappy report on my desk.
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burger stall is just an example like nasi lemak stall ok.

u be smart la, is the market saturated until every taman got 10 burger stalls and you have no choice but to be the 11th burger stall around the block?

just sayin there's alot of stuff people can do rather than take low paid salary if they are not happy with it, and the risk is not that high, you open a small stall, worse come to worse you lose rm3k?

or risk getting Syphilis.



QUOTE(Omochao @ Apr 17 2014, 11:21 PM)
sorry, didn't complete my sentence properly...there are lots of burger stalls here as well.

by the way, you meant to open burger stall till late in the morning?? or just doing day business??
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bro, i'm not the one suggesting you sell roses so you can make rm2k a day during valentines day and make rm50 during normal days.

there are things which will be effected heavily by economics, but still people need to eat, need to travel around, need to piap piap... sure they might eat less, travel less, piap less during bad times but they still need it.

but health is one thing. some employees gets paid by hour rate, no work = no pay, same thing right? and if you seriously ill, you can lose your job anyway.


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TS forgets 1 thing...

Making rm200 a day is easy..making rm200 aday EVERYDAY is the tough part. No matter what weather, your health,public holidays, seasons, etc...making rm200 everyday consistently is the tough part
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well i am happy with it, i don't see the need to work harder to earn more money, but many /k here are complaining. see how many post they complain about low pay, not enough money, cannot survive. just opening the thread so they can maybe think out of the box.

QUOTE(IluvProton @ Apr 17 2014, 11:24 PM)
lolz

so you currently the lowest income among your comment? u comfort of it?
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sorry i don't do reports.

QUOTE(kidmad @ Apr 17 2014, 11:25 PM)
you do not need luck to land a better job. what difference i can see from the freshie's in my company as compared to you is that.. they don't simply make half ass assumption without proper study/findings and analysis. if you were to be hired.. i will be getting crappy report on my desk.
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depends on people. MLM is a business modal that can make lots of money, but not everyone can make big money. so u have to find out what talents you possess and work from there.

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QUOTE(advocado @ Apr 17 2014, 06:29 PM)
well i am happy with it, i don't see the need to work harder to earn more money, but many /k here are complaining. see how many post they complain about low pay, not enough money, cannot survive. just opening the thread so they can maybe think out of the box.
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very good then you should carry it on.

i nvr comfort on my income. tend to find and earn more. guess i was greedy. i has jelly u
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If you want to climb the ladder, or even better, build your own ladder. Do you think the jobs you mentioned will provide adequate knowledge? Experience? Connections? Sometimes life is not just about finding the highest pay jobs. It's about building your own job. When I was in secondary I also made a decent amount of cash just by selling cases and accessories online. I thought of doing it full time before I entered college. But I don't think in the long term it can bring me to anywhere so i stopped and venture into other things.
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yea if you want to make it big time, the examples i've given definitely won't bring you there. this thread is for those not happy with their peanut salary and want to have a better life yet possess no special skills. with a 4-6k monthly income ones life can be greatly improved. there will always be people saying 20k/month is not enough.

if you want to make it big time, i suggest you learn from AR88. he's lyn best real life example, of course right after Mr. Se7en, owner of Malaysia's biggest online forum.

this thread is not suitable for you.


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If you want to climb the ladder, or even better, build your own ladder. Do you think the jobs you mentioned will provide adequate knowledge? Experience? Connections? Sometimes life is not just about finding the highest pay jobs. It's about building your own job. When I was in secondary I also made a decent amount of cash just by selling cases and accessories online. I thought of doing it full time before I entered college. But I don't think in the long term it can bring me to anywhere so i stopped and venture into other things.
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this thread here now is..

/k/ vs TS.

good job.
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then you need to ask yourself, how much is enough? do you really need that much? coz if you don't set a goal, you will just forever be chasing a shadow. you will spend your whole life chasing the money game, and when you're old, you realize you have so much money you don't know what to do with it, you just give it away to charity, not because you are a kind & generous person, but simply because you don't know what to do with those money. but then you took away so much from others whom could have actually used the money for their needs.

i say in Malaysia rm10million should be good enough.

for me 2k a month is good enough.



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very good then you should carry it on.

i nvr comfort on my income. tend to find and earn more. guess i was greedy. i has jelly u
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this is a good way to unite fellow Malaysians.

QUOTE(Omochao @ Apr 17 2014, 11:36 PM)
this thread here now is..

/k/ vs TS.

good job.
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QUOTE(advocado @ Apr 17 2014, 11:31 PM)
depends on people. MLM is a business modal that can make lots of money, but not everyone can make big money. so u have to find out what talents you possess and work from there.
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MLM is not a business. Its manipulating others to dump their money and get ready to kena sapu later down the road.

Talents is something that I dont have or maybe yet to be discovered.
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the fact is the majority of the losers here prefer the 9-5 job and live by the pay cheque.
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Burger stall is just an example, there's many other jobs that doesn't require you selling your food and still make rm200 without the need for a degree or special skills.

Don't get so used to spoonfeeding that you want people to list you everything.


QUOTE(TheMasterDebater @ Apr 17 2014, 11:42 PM)
Why don't you go be rich selling burger instead of telling us your success idea?

The main worry about earning money via "Selling" is customer. Not cost, not working hours or anything else. So ask yourself this, CAN YOU GET CUSTOMERS?

How do you get customers? More importantly, HOW DO YOU MAINTAIN CUSTOMERS and GET A CONSISTENT AMOUNT OF CUSTOMERS EVERYDAY

1. Good Food? (Do you have what it takes?)
2. Marketing tools? (Do you have the knowledge and ability?)
3. Attitude and services? (Do you have the skill and behaviour?)
4. Should you pay special attention for heavy buyers? (pareto effect or reliance?)
5. Location (Do you have the intelligence and/or capital to operate in an easily accessible location?)
6. Off season (Do you know what to do or how to handle off season situation?)
7. Market trend (How does this affect you and what would you do to comply to it?)

The list GOES ON

You have a shallow way of thinking. YOU EXPECT A CERTAIN CONSISTENT AMOUNT OF SALES IS GUARANTEED BUT IN REALITY IT IS NOT!

What makes you think that same guy that bought the burger from you would come back and buy it EVERYDAY like you imagine or would even COME BACK AT ALL?

What makes you think people would just COME TO YOU if you have no goodwill, brand or even any sign of identity?

Not everyone has the capability to think out of the box and to succeed (You clearly don't since you did not anticipate any of these factors).

So at the end, IF YOU HAVE THE LUCK AND SKILL, you have won the rat race... if not... you will be another dreamer expecting to earn RM200 a day
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MLM is a business model, face the truth. Whether it's successful or not depends on the person running it. There's many successful MLM brands that focus on long term success instead of short term.

Also do understand, most of the business model in this world, works on the basis of MLM, like it or not, just instead of hiring individuals they hire people in groups and form the so called companies whom sell their products, and the higher level gets a slice of each sales.

Rejecting MLM as a business model is like rejecting every other business model.



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MLM is not a business. Its manipulating others to dump their money and get ready to kena sapu later down the road.

Talents is something that I dont have or maybe yet to be discovered.
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my talent is hide in room and play games  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(advocado @ Apr 18 2014, 09:28 AM)
MLM is a business model, face the truth. Whether it's successful or not depends on the person running it. There's many successful MLM brands that focus on long term success instead of short term.

Also do understand, most of the business model in this world, works on the basis of MLM, like it or not, just instead of hiring individuals they hire people in groups and form the so called companies whom sell their products, and the higher level gets a slice of each sales.

Rejecting MLM as a business model is like rejecting every other business model.
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Well, maybe I cant since I didn't face any truth in business lately. I'm not rejecting MLM but I dont see positive outcome from it. Rejecting is not the word; I choose not to venture into MLM. Thats all.
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you need to stop the spoonfeeding reliance.

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QUOTE(advocado @ Apr 16 2014, 11:17 PM)
that is about rm2k a month 24 working days right?

well as long as you are happy with it and can survive it's not that bad.
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QUOTE(advocado @ Apr 16 2014, 11:22 PM)
also many maciks earn less than rm80 a day in their full time job, but they are smart to gather their links and do their small sales, usually perfumes, honey, handbags etc, can easily boost their monthly income by 1k-2k a month.

thats why you see many 38's in office.
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Well, I am just sad because I can't even get the average salary for a fresh engineering graduate. I am not even talking about RM 3k. I am talking about 2.5k. I can't even get 2.5k ?

Even though I am not a money-minded person, I am just sad that I am not even good enough an AVERAGE fresh engineering salary. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(GunBlaDeR @ Apr 18 2014, 04:11 PM)
Well, I am just sad because I can't even get the average salary for a fresh engineering graduate. I am not even talking about RM 3k. I am talking about 2.5k. I can't even get 2.5k ?

Even though I am not a money-minded person, I am just sad that I am not even good enough an AVERAGE fresh engineering salary. sweat.gif
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dun worry, not just you alone having salary below average.
but the issue. will you willing to stay that low pay for longer time or you would strive for better pay?
although got some sacrifice to be make.
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dun worry, not just you alone having salary below average.
but the issue. will you willing to stay that low pay for longer time or you would strive for better pay?
although got some sacrifice to be make.
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bump for future reference.

hope is helpful by 2020.
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6k jual bontot pun boleh reach
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im selling tees, can earn rm100 - rm200 per day. sometimes rm400. depends.
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QUOTE(advocado @ Apr 16 2014, 10:09 PM)
I think most people don't make rm200 a day by working their asses off their full time employment, well most people except /k tards 20k/month average.

All you need to do is make rm200 a day 30 days you get rm6k a month. rm200 in today's standard is pretty much rm50 10 years ago. Groceries at Cold Storage for 1 week already more than rm200, chocolate la, yoghurt la, honey, ice-cream etc.

I did a simple calculation, i see many  jobs can easily generate rm200 income a day.

Taxi say rm10 per trip per 20 minutes, you just need to run 20 trips which is 400 minutes (6.7hours) to generate rm200, you just need to keep picking up passengers and don't try to charge rm30 for 5km trip and spend 1 hour on lunch & breaks. Taking gas, maintenance & license fees into account, one can still easily take home rm4k per month.

Nasi Lemak seller, rm2 per pack, just need to sell 100 packs a day to make rm200. put in kuih muih 50cent per piece, normal day rm200 a day shouldn't be too difficult and only need to wake up early to prefer and sell in the morning. Just need a roadside stall & small car.

Burger Stall, rm5 per burger, just need to sell 40 burgers a night to hit rm200. no need much preparation.

Unlicensed KL to KLIA private car. Charge rm50 per trip to KLIA, and if lucky get passenger rm30 from KLIA back to KL, 1 day just need to pick up 4 passengers rm200 kaotim, no need pay tax, just toll fee & petrol & maintenance, if you convert to NGV even cheaper. Can get touch & go discount somemore.

Home Cleaner, charge rm150 per month (car wash already charge rm50 per month 1 week wash 3 times) for 1 house clean once a week, need to clean 40 houses per month, 6 houses a day, 1.5 hours per house to mop floor, clean toilet, dust off tables, OK not as lucrative as the others but if lazy clean 3 houses a day can still get 3k no need pay tax.

Prostitute in Orchard Road, SGD100 per session, just need 2 session a night to make SGD200, hotel cost $SGD150 per night at Hotel 81 + condom + checkup every 3 months, if you become high class escort can charge even more per hour. It's legal and you don't pay tax.

These are just a few examples how people can make a decent living. You don't need a Graduate certificate or be professional certified to do so. It's not like asking you to be a lawyer and sell a sign paper for 3k or do operation for 5k. All these job are barely affected by bad economy like Properties/Market Shares/Insurance.

So I don't see why so many people here opening thread about how hard it is to live in KL, how hard it is just get a job that pays for rm200.

I say if you have an abled body & willing to work, you can easily make a decent living. Sure it won't be good enough to buy a Ferrari or Bangalow but at least you will survive better.

Lee Kuan Yew is right all the while. There is no Poor people, only Lazy people.
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This is like targeted at WhyAmISoPoor coz he only earn 5k...
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QUOTE(visualfoley @ Jul 19 2017, 09:10 PM)
im selling tees, can earn rm100 - rm200 per day. sometimes rm400. depends.
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wow, impressive. do you sell online, shops, stall or pasar malam/pagi or walk around?

wot kind of T you selling? branded, no name? China? Korea?

sell to local market only?

thing is for online the sizing can be an issue, u will face lots of return goods due to wrong sizing.
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Thanks for sharing advocado

Ignore the trolls as they're salty over their peanuts pay

I find it fairly easy to make RM200 per day in today's society

Heck, ssometimes it can be made in less than an hour

Yup, agree there is no poor people, only lazy people

I think gomen is to be blamed here because the poor people always rely on BR1M rather than find a way to exceed the income bracket

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Its not difficult and nobody said it was difficult. Only stewpid ppl like u assume its hard.

I make 500/day oso no kecoh.
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QUOTE(advocado @ Jul 19 2017, 09:14 PM)
wow, impressive. do you sell online, shops, stall or pasar malam/pagi or walk around?

wot kind of T you selling? branded, no name? China? Korea?

sell to local market only?

thing is for online the sizing can be an issue, u will face lots of return goods due to wrong sizing.
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bought material from jakel, hired tailor, sells for local market.

its asian size.

you can check in my instagram.com/leluckybymidesign

just depend on the fb ads.

thats it

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You cepat cepat balik Ecuador ...
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QUOTE(ysc @ Apr 16 2014, 10:23 PM)
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This is a shit topic.
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from this fellow, what u expect ?
a month 30 day working n no cost with 100% profit.
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Thank you 😊 master.

If only I read this post 3 years ago...

You are da best man.
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this advocado again

last time he said he can sell burger cost below rm1


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6 k pipe dream
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QUOTE(visualfoley @ Jul 20 2017, 12:51 AM)
bought material from jakel, hired tailor, sells for local market.

its asian size.

you can check in my instagram.com/leluckybymidesign

just depend on the fb ads.

thats it
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but if hire tailor the cost goes up right?

how much ur cost per shirt & profit margin wo.

esp with Uniqlo coming out with rm19.90 shirts, competitive market.
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QUOTE(SonnyCooL @ Jul 20 2017, 01:24 AM)
from this fellow, what u expect ?
a month 30 day working n no cost with 100% profit.
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dude i really think u a poser based on your english comprehension skills i don't think you are capable of leading "projects" or films but lets not be personal.

i already laid out the rough estimation, anywhere i say NO COST in the 1st post???
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QUOTE(adj3 @ Jul 20 2017, 07:45 AM)
this advocado again

last time he said he can sell burger cost below rm1
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yes, and this thread was written like, Last Time? still valid for, This Time.
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from this fellow, what u expect ?
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My bro sell water outside primary sch ..sirap bandung , oren n air rose ..one day 500 cups no prob ..
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need to give headmaster kopi fee so won't kena halau or report?
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They niaga outside of sch compound dunno got kopi fee or not
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QUOTE(advocado @ Apr 16 2014, 10:09 PM)
I think most people don't make rm200 a day by working their asses off their full time employment, well most people except /k tards 20k/month average.

All you need to do is make rm200 a day 30 days you get rm6k a month. rm200 in today's standard is pretty much rm50 10 years ago. Groceries at Cold Storage for 1 week already more than rm200, chocolate la, yoghurt la, honey, ice-cream etc.

I did a simple calculation, i see many  jobs can easily generate rm200 income a day.

Taxi say rm10 per trip per 20 minutes, you just need to run 20 trips which is 400 minutes (6.7hours) to generate rm200, you just need to keep picking up passengers and don't try to charge rm30 for 5km trip and spend 1 hour on lunch & breaks. Taking gas, maintenance & license fees into account, one can still easily take home rm4k per month.

Nasi Lemak seller, rm2 per pack, just need to sell 100 packs a day to make rm200. put in kuih muih 50cent per piece, normal day rm200 a day shouldn't be too difficult and only need to wake up early to prefer and sell in the morning. Just need a roadside stall & small car.

Burger Stall, rm5 per burger, just need to sell 40 burgers a night to hit rm200. no need much preparation.

Unlicensed KL to KLIA private car. Charge rm50 per trip to KLIA, and if lucky get passenger rm30 from KLIA back to KL, 1 day just need to pick up 4 passengers rm200 kaotim, no need pay tax, just toll fee & petrol & maintenance, if you convert to NGV even cheaper. Can get touch & go discount somemore.

Home Cleaner, charge rm150 per month (car wash already charge rm50 per month 1 week wash 3 times) for 1 house clean once a week, need to clean 40 houses per month, 6 houses a day, 1.5 hours per house to mop floor, clean toilet, dust off tables, OK not as lucrative as the others but if lazy clean 3 houses a day can still get 3k no need pay tax.

Prostitute in Orchard Road, SGD100 per session, just need 2 session a night to make SGD200, hotel cost $SGD150 per night at Hotel 81 + condom + checkup every 3 months, if you become high class escort can charge even more per hour. It's legal and you don't pay tax.

These are just a few examples how people can make a decent living. You don't need a Graduate certificate or be professional certified to do so. It's not like asking you to be a lawyer and sell a sign paper for 3k or do operation for 5k. All these job are barely affected by bad economy like Properties/Market Shares/Insurance.

So I don't see why so many people here opening thread about how hard it is to live in KL, how hard it is just get a job that pays for rm200.

I say if you have an abled body & willing to work, you can easily make a decent living. Sure it won't be good enough to buy a Ferrari or Bangalow but at least you will survive better.

Lee Kuan Yew is right all the while. There is no Poor people, only Lazy people.
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Groceries at Cold Storage for 1 week already more than rm200, chocolate la, yoghurt la, honey, ice-cream etc.

Not even basic neccessity ....
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QUOTE(bone_me @ Apr 16 2014, 10:12 PM)
Kosnya mana?

Burger curi ka? senang2 jual rm5 untung rm5
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this. advocado tak reti berniaga



ouch ---- ini necro thread tahun 2014

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QUOTE(cicak.fakir @ Jul 20 2017, 09:18 AM)
this. advocado tak reti berniaga
ouch ---- ini necro thread tahun  2014
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but did i say net profit? i say make.

ur salary rm5k, no cost no tax?

u got buat biz b4 or not.

in 1st post i did mention cost, but you expect me to list out all the cost in every proposal like it's actually a proposal?

even you take home rm5k, your food, utilities, phone bills, petrol car installment house rental clothes groceries etc foc? so how deep in terms of cost should we go, should we go back 25 years ago and start counting the cost to raise you up?
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QUOTE(yeezai @ Jul 20 2017, 09:10 AM)
They niaga outside of sch compound dunno got kopi fee or not
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i think nearby also under their turf.

i know canteen perators usually you need to give ang pow one.

contractors also.
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QUOTE(Zoopdiidoo @ Jul 20 2017, 09:15 AM)
Groceries at Cold Storage for 1 week already more than rm200, chocolate la, yoghurt la, honey, ice-cream etc.

Not even basic neccessity ....
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keyword is Cold Storage.

and you buy those luxury non-essentials.

also since it's 1 week rm200, you make rm200 per day still can afford la.
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QUOTE(advocado @ Jul 20 2017, 09:41 AM)
but did i say net profit? i say make.

ur salary rm5k, no cost no tax?

u got buat biz b4 or not.

in 1st post i did mention cost, but you expect me to list out all the cost in every proposal like it's actually a proposal?

even you take home rm5k, your food, utilities, phone bills, petrol car installment house rental clothes groceries etc foc? so how deep in terms of cost should we go, should we go back 25 years ago and start counting the cost to raise you up?
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so if do bizz, those mention no need to pay isit?  doh.gif
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of course you need to pay. but when i say make rm200 do i mean net rm200?

i gave a brief statement on cost, they are quite low compared to a proper business.

you probably don't know F&B, their material cost is very low compared to their sales price. margin is like 50% for food, water, if home made, probably 300% or more. since i propose are road side stall or things doesn't involve a shop, you need to chuck up around rm3k for the stall as CAPEX. if you DIY the cost will be much lower.

bike & car i have to assume you already have, so you pay the petrol.

and if you need electricity you have to invest in a Diesel Generator, usually if you sell at night just for the lights.

CAPEX can be recovered within 3 months time. then after that is just Revenue minus OPEX. your price is lower than restaurants but margin is higher and risk are lower.

if flipping burger & nasi lemak not your taste, you can always drive or become GRO/escort. the time the article was written there was no Uber/Grab.

also now you can sell cupcakes like fabularis.
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200 nett or gross?
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200 nett or gross?
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QUOTE(ctys2012 @ Jul 20 2017, 10:24 AM)
200 nett or gross?
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ur salary is net or gross?

of course when say make is revenue la.

but also, depends, i proposed a list, there are biz that needs CAPEX & OPEX (burger & nasi lemak), and those that mainly OPEX (Taxi if you already have a car), and those with minimal cost (GRO/Prostitution/Escorts).

anyway many people don't even make rm6k a month, so revenue rm6k deducting some CAPEX & OPEX which aren't really high compared to proper business is still ok la.

i mean if you making 6k or more a month you don't really need to read this. but if you looking for extra income to cope with your needs it may help.

see right now many people doing Uber/Grab part time. and this article was written before Uber/Grab was introduced.
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doesnt matter...important is profit margin..
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Nothing beat gigolo in terms of profit margin ..skill + sperm foc
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gigolo your customer per day is limited to ur stamina.

prostitute pretty much how fast you can work on your customer.

that is why Gigolo usually cost more i think.
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Mate. You're barking up the wrong tree. The businesses you proposed can easily make RM200 per day. Minus cost and margin. 10% to 30% depending on what kind of business. But you have not factored in the fact that you might sell nothing or make nothing on certain days.

Take for example, your nasi lemak or your burger stall. You are looking at prepping 100 packs of nasi lemak or heating up your burger grill while waiting for your customer. If your sales is a meager 30% on that day, what becomes of your balance stock ? Your overhead cost ? The time and effort to go that spot on that day. You can argue "Find a good location la. Confirm make money !" But it doesn't work that way. Weather ? Nearby competition ? Licenses ? Enforcement disturbance ? Fall sick ? Car breakdown ? And don't forget, doing this kind of business requires a lot more effort than just "Go and sell". Cooking nasi lemak for 6AM sales requires you to wake up at least 4 hours beforehand to cook all the necessary dishes. Burger stall might be a little easier, but the hours are also shit. Midnight shifts. This applies to all the different businesses you listed.

That is why some people prefer the 9 - 5 job. Steady income. No need to worry about sales. Just do what is required. And it is not hard labour. Just sit in front of a computer unless you're the kind of staff that go on site.

You are right though. As long as you're hardworking, even without a cert, you can still be comfortable. But don't give the wrong idea to the general public that just starting your own business, RM200 per day is not very hard. It is. So to each their own. Some still prefer a desk job. While some like to open at pasar malam.
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Can easily make 200

Same time can easily loss more than 200

Deswai die die must have protek
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QUOTE(AttilaTheHun @ Jul 20 2017, 10:39 AM)
Mate. You're barking up the wrong tree. The businesses you proposed can easily make RM200 per day. Minus cost and margin. 10% to 30% depending on what kind of business. But you have not factored in the fact that you might sell nothing or make nothing on certain days.

Take for example, your nasi lemak or your burger stall. You are looking at prepping 100 packs of nasi lemak or heating up your burger grill while waiting for your customer. If your sales is a meager 30% on that day, what becomes of your balance stock ? Your overhead cost ? The time and effort to go that spot on that day. You can argue "Find a good location la. Confirm make money !" But it doesn't work that way. Weather ? Nearby competition ? Licenses ? Enforcement disturbance ? Fall sick ? Car breakdown ? And don't forget, doing this kind of business requires a lot more effort than just "Go and sell". Cooking nasi lemak for 6AM sales requires you to wake up at least 4 hours beforehand to cook all the necessary dishes. Burger stall might be a little easier, but the hours are also shit. Midnight shifts. This applies to all the different businesses you listed.

That is why some people prefer the 9 - 5 job. Steady income. No need to worry about sales. Just do what is required. And it is not hard labour. Just sit in front of a computer unless you're the kind of staff that go on site.

You are right though. As long as you're hardworking, even without a cert, you can still be comfortable. But don't give the wrong idea to the general public that just starting your own business, RM200 per day is not very hard. It is. So to each their own. Some still prefer a desk job. While some like to open at pasar malam.
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do i really need to write another FAQ about things to consider when starting a business?

take nasi lemak for example, you don't outright make 100 packs of nasi lemak from day 1 right? you have an estimate, maybe 1st week just trial run, make 30 packs, see can see or not, 30 pack i don't think difficult, unless it's raining cats & dogs. if can sell ok la, make more, if cannot, then need to consider relocation or review your products? we aren't talking about luxury food like premium kopi, we talking about nasi lemak where any passer by might just buy 1 and eat. unless ur reputation is really that bad.

same for burger, except burger stock can keep longer, so you 1st day bring out 20 patties lo and sell. if cannot sell at least you can eat up a few of them. for burgers usually night time, so you need to invest in a diesel generator lo.

margin 10-30% is really low bro for F&B. if you sell air margin easily 300%, unless nobody buys at all. and of course after taking in to excess into account, your margin is still high, just your actual profit might not be much due to low pricing so you need to sell volume.

but rm200 income per day, to be honest, is not a dream figure. and should allow a normal person to survive around KL, not luxury, but you will survive even with a small family.
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QUOTE(memekfalui @ Jul 20 2017, 10:43 AM)
Can easily make 200

Same time can easily loss more than 200

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depends bro, i don't think the cost of your nasi lemak would be rm200 per day. unless you use Japanese rice & premium eggs etc.
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apa kebodohan ni? u sell nasi lemak rm2 x 100 pack u earn 200? ur nasi lemak come from where? MAGIC a? no nid modal? u bawak taxi no nid maintanance? no nid fuel? come from magic a? dah lah bodoh no wonder cant earn rm200 per day
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apa kebodohan ni? u sell nasi lemak rm2 x 100 pack u earn 200? ur nasi lemak come from where? MAGIC a? no nid modal? u bawak taxi no nid maintanance? no nid fuel? come from magic a? dah lah bodoh no wonder cant earn rm200 per day
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i like the way you assume make = net profit.

kudos to whatever accounting school you came out from.
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but if hire tailor the cost goes up right?

how much ur cost per shirt & profit margin wo.

esp with Uniqlo coming out with rm19.90 shirts, competitive market.
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u need to learn about the tshirt material. the one im using is interlock. not normal cotton like cotton on.

you can google about the interlock cotton.

plus its a customized tshirt.

you can google leluckybymidesign. its not a normal tees. aha smile.gif
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it's ok la, you just keep up the youtube and rm200/day not a problem.

hope you can get some endorsement from local gaming part suppliers too.
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u need to learn about the tshirt material. the one im using is interlock. not normal cotton like cotton on.

you can google about the interlock cotton.

plus its a customized tshirt.

you can google leluckybymidesign. its not a normal tees. aha  smile.gif
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ok. the hard part is getting a skilled tailor willing to work at minimum wage.

flizzardo wanna give this a try?
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QUOTE(visualfoley @ Jul 20 2017, 10:49 AM)
u need to learn about the tshirt material. the one im using is interlock. not normal cotton like cotton on.

you can google about the interlock cotton.

plus its a customized tshirt.

you can google leluckybymidesign. its not a normal tees. aha  smile.gif
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Got pic? Wan to see how is the texture
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i like the way you assume make = net profit.

kudos to whatever accounting school you came out from.
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All you need to do is make rm200 a day 30 days you get rm6k a month.


u say this? whatz the point if ur modal for nasi lemak cost rm1.50 if u sell at rm2 for 100 pack? u still earn shit bongok!! u better dun talk about maths, people sure wack kau u, u not juz gonna get fired, boss will sue u for being stupid than average human IQ and EQ

you are the one duno how to do business and spreading ur stupidity in ktard doh.gif
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no thanks

ive just started selling rm2 nasi lemak

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QUOTE(DigitalMop @ Jul 20 2017, 10:56 AM)
u say this? whatz the point if ur modal for nasi lemak cost rm1.50 if u sell at rm2 for 100 pack? u still earn shit bongok!! u better dun talk about maths, people sure wack kau u, u not juz gonna get fired, boss will sue u for being stupid than average human IQ and EQ

you are the one duno how to do business and spreading ur stupidity in ktard  doh.gif
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if ur cost is rm1.50 for 1 nasi lemak either you selling premium nasi lemak or something wrong.

dey, in my 1st thread, did i not mention about cost?

oh i didn't. at least on the burger paragraph. whistling.gif
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u need to learn about the tshirt material. the one im using is interlock. not normal cotton like cotton on.

you can google about the interlock cotton.

plus its a customized tshirt.

you can google leluckybymidesign. its not a normal tees. aha  smile.gif
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interlock cotton use in uniqlo and h&M shirt right?..im not mistaken..but cant verify it..its abit strechy

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open tered can earn money meh?

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no thanks

i ive just selling started nasi lemak for rm2
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no, i mean his custom made T-Shirts.

ur nasi lemak self made or buy from supplier?

also i notice many Shells in KL under reno, now they have deli2go, boost inside their shops. ur branches got?

i think not good idea, usually petrol station parking limited, and the food is more ang moh style, not cheap also. most of the places i go not many people buy.

compare to fastfood like McD.
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QUOTE(advocado @ Jul 20 2017, 10:45 AM)
do i really need to write another FAQ about things to consider when starting a business?

take nasi lemak for example, you don't outright make 100 packs of nasi lemak from day 1 right? you have an estimate, maybe 1st week just trial run, make 30 packs, see can see or not, 30 pack i don't think difficult, unless it's raining cats & dogs. if can sell ok la, make more, if cannot, then need to consider relocation or review your products? we aren't talking about luxury food like premium kopi, we talking about nasi lemak where any passer by might just buy 1 and eat. unless ur reputation is really that bad.

same for burger, except burger stock can keep longer, so you 1st day bring out 20 patties lo and sell. if cannot sell at least you can eat up a few of them. for burgers usually night time, so you need to invest in a diesel generator lo.

margin 10-30% is really low bro for F&B. if you sell air margin easily 300%, unless nobody buys at all. and of course after taking in to excess into account, your margin is still high, just your actual profit might not be much due to low pricing so you need to sell volume.

but rm200 income per day, to be honest, is not a dream figure. and should allow a normal person to survive around KL, not luxury, but you will survive even with a small family.
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The thing is, you are not providing a real picture for your figures. FAQ or not, if sales dip one week, go up the next. You still won't be making a comfortable income.

From your example, it is already flawed. You don't make 100 packs. How to make RM200 ? If you prep 30, that's only RM60 per day. Your example takes into consideration that your sales is 100%. What you make, you sell. If we want to be realistic, to make RM200 per day, we are looking at prepping 120 packs. Morning sell. Cannot finish. Sell afternoon different spot. Then balance pawn it off to some mamak or construction site.

Your burger example is also the same. 20 patties. Suddenly big order comes in. Not enough stock. RM100 loss for that day. Or worse. Bring 40 patties. Customer comes in droves. Cannot cook in time. Customer leave. You say hire another worker. That is also cost.

Who the heck buys water from a nasi lemak auntie or a burger stall ? At cost, maybe RM0.29 cents. Mark up to RM1.00. Sure you make good margin. But who will buy ? Nasi lemak cost itself is close to RM0.70 if big volume. Not considering wastage. Worse case scenario at 30% sales. You are making a LOSS. Don't even talk about margin.

You still haven't bring up the fact that this is actually hard work for roadside stall seller. Or the fact that some people prefer to sit in office. True RM200 can be made in this market. But don't make it seem so easy. If not, all of us would be doing 3 jobs. Morning nasi lemak. 9 - 5 job. Then at night pasar malam. Make 20k per month as per /k standard.
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The thing is, you are not providing a real picture for your figures. FAQ or not, if sales dip one week, go up the next. You still won't be making a comfortable income.

From your example, it is already flawed. You don't make 100 packs. How to make RM200 ? If you prep 30, that's only RM60 per day. Your example takes into consideration that your sales is 100%. What you make, you sell. If we want to be realistic, to make RM200 per day, we are looking at prepping 120 packs. Morning sell. Cannot finish. Sell afternoon different spot. Then balance pawn it off to some mamak or construction site.

Your burger example is also the same. 20 patties. Suddenly big order comes in. Not enough stock. RM100 loss for that day. Or worse. Bring 40 patties. Customer comes in droves. Cannot cook in time. Customer leave. You say hire another worker. That is also cost.

Who the heck buys water from a nasi lemak auntie or a burger stall ? At cost, maybe RM0.29 cents. Mark up to RM1.00. Sure you make good margin. But who will buy ? Nasi lemak cost itself is close to RM0.70 if big volume. Not considering wastage. Worse case scenario at 30% sales. You are making a LOSS. Don't even talk about margin.

You still haven't bring up the fact that this is actually hard work for roadside stall seller. Or the fact that some people prefer to sit in office. True RM200 can be made in this market. But don't make it seem so easy. If not, all of us would be doing 3 jobs. Morning nasi lemak. 9 - 5 job. Then at night pasar malam. Make 20k per month as per /k standard.
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you didn't get my point. i'm saying you have a trial run for the 1st week, trial run means it's just testing the water to get an idea on the market. you won't be making rm200 per day from day 1 obviously, and everyday surely there will have ups & downs, but you get a ballpark figure. you aren't running a departmental stall, everyone needs nasi lemak everyday, they don't wait until sales.

only thing that you might get affected is the weather, if heavy rain, biz will be bad, or can't do at all, but you can even out with other good days, also weekends & holidays you will have less income. when i say rm200, it can be rm180, or it can be rm500, depends on individual.

also obviously if it's on a weekend you will prepare less since from trial run you have figured out the customer flow.

i'm not asking you to sell unique things targeting niche market.

and the 20 patties is also an example of trial run, if someone wants big order, sorry sold out lo bos baru start next week full blast. difficult?

and when say water, must be plain water? nasi lemak cannot make sirap bandung or other things? remember bro, nasi lemak is sweet & spicy food, people want to drink esp cold drinks after that. you selling drinks is a plus.

it is hardwork, you expect to be easy? need to specify? hardwork ain't part of the cost bro. it's your own problem. unless you take into account career illness, like back pain for taxi drivers.
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ok. the hard part is getting a skilled tailor willing to work at minimum wage.

flizzardo wanna give this a try?
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i was thinking the same too.. but then i was like, i need to start now.. if not now.. when..

minimum m.o.q 150pcs per color. i start with black and white, just to play safe first. hahaha

i can recommend you a very good tailor.

go check their instagram.com/yosshisupply

they can do from tailoring to printing. the next thing im going to do.. pants. rclxm9.gif

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no, i mean his custom made T-Shirts.

ur nasi lemak self made or buy from supplier?

also i notice many Shells in KL under reno, now they have deli2go, boost inside their shops. ur branches got?

i think not good idea, usually petrol station parking limited, and the food is more ang moh style, not cheap also. most of the places i go not many people buy.

compare to fastfood like McD.
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nope

buy from supplier

customers mostly grab and go, they dont stay around, petrol stations can double park easy because parking right outside the store only

mine have deli2go and costa
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nope

buy from supplier

customers mostly grab and go, they dont stay around, petrol stations can double park easy because parking right outside the store only

mine have deli2go and costa
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so you run the deli2go & costa or just rent out the space for franchise to run? their business good meh? i think people still prefer McD.
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so you run the deli2go & costa or just rent out the space for franchise to run? their business good meh? i think people still prefer McD.
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i run myself

yes not as good as mcd obviously

it has become a staple food for the mass and chill out place for the young and hip
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i was thinking the same too.. but then i was like, i need to start now.. if not now.. when..

minimum m.o.q 150pcs per color. i start with black and white, just to play safe first. hahaha

i can recommend you a very good tailor.

go check their instagram.com/yosshisupply

they can do from tailoring to printing. the next thing im going to do.. pants.  rclxm9.gif
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IMO selling shirt online biggest risk is the size & fitting, alot of returns & exchange. if sell local can la, but Pos Laju rate not cheap also unless you got contract with them.

sell overseas cost even more on killer postage, return fee might as well they keep the wrong size shirt.

i'm thinking of scaled clothings, but it's more difficult to make 1/6 than 1/1. the profit margin is very high, and rarely the size goes wrong since you have dummies.

ur tailor is hand made or machine?
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i run myself

yes not as good as mcd obviously

it has become a staple food for the mass and chill out place for the young and hip
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so wot happens with the leftovers?

do you donate to orphanage or old folks home?
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so wot happens with the leftovers?

do you donate to orphanage or old folks home?
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usually we dont bake too many

but by night usually we will give out discounts so that there arent too many leftover. usually if they are leftover i'd buy them and eat myself or give away to staffs

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you didn't get my point. i'm saying you have a trial run for the 1st week, trial run means it's just testing the water to get an idea on the market. you won't be making rm200 per day from day 1 obviously, and everyday surely there will have ups & downs, but you get a ballpark figure. you aren't running a departmental stall, everyone needs nasi lemak everyday, they don't wait until sales.

only thing that you might get affected is the weather, if heavy rain, biz will be bad, or can't do at all, but you can even out with other good days, also weekends & holidays you will have less income. when i say rm200, it can be rm180, or it can be rm500, depends on individual.

also obviously if it's on a weekend you will prepare less since from trial run you have figured out the customer flow.

i'm not asking you to sell unique things targeting niche market.

and the 20 patties is also an example of trial run, if someone wants big order, sorry sold out lo bos baru start next week full blast. difficult?

and when say water, must be plain water? nasi lemak cannot make sirap bandung or other things? remember bro, nasi lemak is sweet & spicy food, people want to drink esp cold drinks after that. you selling drinks is a plus.

it is hardwork, you expect to be easy? need to specify? hardwork ain't part of the cost bro. it's your own problem. unless you take into account career illness, like back pain for taxi drivers.
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I know what a trial run is. The point is, you are not painting the whole picture. I'm pretty sure you're gonna say, "Do I need to specify ? This is /k. Go figure it out".

The fact of the matter is, to make RM200 per day, whatever business. Needs hard work. Be it a nasi lemak seller. Or burger stall. It's not sunshine all the way. Businesses come and go. And customers are fickle minded. I won't eat the same thing everyday. Neither will you.

Btw Mate. Your post says it all. "So DIFFICULT making RM200 a day meh?" You just contradicted yourself quite nicely there.

PS:- No one will buy water from a pack and go stall like nasi lemak or burger. 1. No sitting space. 2. Price. One bandung RM2. I might as well order another Banjo/Nasi lemak. 3. It just doesn't make sense.
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QUOTE(Flizzardo @ Jul 20 2017, 11:16 AM)
usually we dont bake too many

but by night usually we will give out discounts so that there arent too many leftover. usually if they are leftover i'd buy them and eat myself or give away to staffs
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doesn't make sense you actually Buy them.

coz you pay for it, and it registers as income, which is taxable, so it's double jeopardy. give to staff is common.

but then, you got few branches so you can't eat so many also.
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I know what a trial run is. The point is, you are not painting the whole picture. I'm pretty sure you're gonna say, "Do I need to specify ? This is /k. Go figure it out".

The fact of the matter is, to make RM200 per day, whatever business. Needs hard work. Be it a nasi lemak seller. Or burger stall. It's not sunshine all the way. Businesses come and go. And customers are fickle minded. I won't eat the same thing everyday. Neither will you.

Btw Mate. Your post says it all. "So DIFFICULT making RM200 a day meh?" You just contradicted yourself quite nicely there.

PS:- No one will buy water from a pack and go stall like nasi lemak or burger. 1. No sitting space. 2. Price. One bandung RM2. I might as well order another Banjo/Nasi lemak. 3. It just doesn't make sense.
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hi, i don't get what picture you want. i said trial run because you raised the question of selling 100 packs from day 1. most business does that even restaurants & factories. even cars.

i never say it's easy, did i? while some jobs are much easier if you willing to sacrifice your body. you will say there are job risks, sure, what job doesn't?

you'll be surprised how many Malaysians eat Nasi Lemak & Roti Canai on daily basis. unless there are too many nasi lemak stall at your area supply >>> demand. rarely i see more than 2 stalls within same area. coz not many people willing to do.

and why would i contradict myself? rm200 +- give or take. there is no business that gives you constant income each day. but you get an average. i'm sure rm200 average for nasi lemak vendors not that difficult. remember they don't just sell nasi lemak, you have add on rendang, sotong, some even sell babi hutan, end up 1 plate around rm4-5.

and why won't people buy drinks from nasi lemak, if they sell. and why must be rm2 for a bandung syrup? like i said the cost is at least 200-300% on drinks, they sell rm1 still make money, including the plastic bag & straws, people don't need to eat there lo, tapao nasi & drinks then go. you think very fun drive to point A for nasi, then drive to point B for drinks, then rush to work? or you say make milo at opis?

don't be so -ve bro.


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hi, i don't get what picture you want. i said trial run because you raised the question of selling 100 packs from day 1. most business does that even restaurants & factories. even cars.

i never say it's easy, did i? while some jobs are much easier if you willing to sacrifice your body. you will say there are job risks, sure, what job doesn't?

you'll be surprised how many Malaysians eat Nasi Lemak & Roti Canai on daily basis. unless there are too many nasi lemak stall at your area supply >>> demand. rarely i see more than 2 stalls within same area. coz not many people willing to do.

and why would i contradict myself? rm200 +- give or take. there is no business that gives you constant income each day. but you get an average. i'm sure rm200 average for nasi lemak vendors not that difficult. remember they don't just sell nasi lemak, you have add on rendang, sotong, some even sell babi hutan, end up 1 plate around rm4-5.

and why won't people buy drinks from nasi lemak, if they sell. and why must be rm2 for a bandung syrup? like i said the cost is at least 200-300% on drinks, they sell rm1 still make money, including the plastic bag & straws, people don't need to eat there lo, tapao nasi & drinks then go. you think very fun drive to point A for nasi, then drive to point B for drinks, then rush to work? or you say make milo at opis?

don't be so -ve bro.
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Wah lau. You doing fast reading is it ? My point wasn't referring to the trial run. The big picture I'm talking about is, saying every business to make RM200 per day just needs x amount of sales. You haven't factor in a lot of things. Like the things we are discussing now. When you get right down to it, there is more than meets the eye. No ? So quit generalizing.

And you'll be surprised how many stalls are there otw to work. I passby at least 4 per day. Of course everyone has a favorite stall. And can eat nasi lemak/roti everyday. But does it have to be your stall ?

What are you replying to mate. Your thread says "So DIFFICULT making RM200 a day meh?". Isn't it difficult ? Contradictory right ? Like I said, you prefer to sit at a desk comfortably 9-5, or slough your way at 3AM to prep the food alone to make that RM200.

Let's make a poll. Roadside stall. Who will buy drinks if there's no sitting area and you're looking for a grab and go food to eat in the office/home since you can't sit. How many times have you personally gone down to a stall to tar pau something quick and cheap and bought drinks together with it. We are not talking bazaar ramadhan here.

Negative ? This is a healthy chat la. Don't think too much bro. I'm just saying it isn't easy. And you've also confirmed that. So how ? Want to change your thread title ?
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Wah lau. You doing fast reading is it ? My point wasn't referring to the trial run. The big picture I'm talking about is, saying every business to make RM200 per day just needs x amount of sales. You haven't factor in a lot of things. Like the things we are discussing now. When you get right down to it, there is more than meets the eye. No ? So quit generalizing.

And you'll be surprised how many stalls are there otw to work. I passby at least 4 per day. Of course everyone has a favorite stall. And can eat nasi lemak/roti everyday. But does it have to be your stall ?

What are you replying to mate. Your thread says "So DIFFICULT making RM200 a day meh?". Isn't it difficult ? Contradictory right ? Like I said, you prefer to sit at a desk comfortably 9-5, or slough your way at 3AM to prep the food alone to make that RM200.

Let's make a poll. Roadside stall. Who will buy drinks if there's no sitting area and you're looking for a grab and go food to eat in the office/home since you can't sit. How many times have you personally gone down to a stall to tar pau something quick and cheap and bought drinks together with it. We are not talking bazaar ramadhan here.

Negative ? This is a healthy chat la. Don't think too much bro. I'm just saying it isn't easy. And you've also confirmed that. So how ? Want to change your thread title ?
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business go up & down, when i say rm200, it's not an upper limit, you can be making rm 300 or rm500 depending on individual, of course, if you bad attitude & spoilt nasi then better just don't even start. average rm200 per day is not a dream. you seems to be very fixated on the rm200 must be everyday rm200, cannot more or less.

yes you passby, doesn't mean they are right next to each other. and since you are so calculative, tell me those 4 stalls, how many meters are they away from each other exactly?

for me, if the stalls are good, today i eat this stall the next the other if i am used to nasi lemak everyday, so those stalls still get a constant flow.

like i said, so difficult meh rm200?

and why, must you sit down and drink when you buy a drink? you see those drink sellers on motor, they got table & chairs to let you sit down and drink? or do they just wrap the plastic and let you takeaway?
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My target is to get min RM1000 a day....sound merepek but actually can...and ive been doin that for a year naw...
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QUOTE(AttilaTheHun @ Jul 20 2017, 10:39 AM)
Mate. You're barking up the wrong tree. The businesses you proposed can easily make RM200 per day. Minus cost and margin. 10% to 30% depending on what kind of business. But you have not factored in the fact that you might sell nothing or make nothing on certain days.

Take for example, your nasi lemak or your burger stall. You are looking at prepping 100 packs of nasi lemak or heating up your burger grill while waiting for your customer. If your sales is a meager 30% on that day, what becomes of your balance stock ? Your overhead cost ? The time and effort to go that spot on that day. You can argue "Find a good location la. Confirm make money !" But it doesn't work that way. Weather ? Nearby competition ? Licenses ? Enforcement disturbance ? Fall sick ? Car breakdown ? And don't forget, doing this kind of business requires a lot more effort than just "Go and sell". Cooking nasi lemak for 6AM sales requires you to wake up at least 4 hours beforehand to cook all the necessary dishes. Burger stall might be a little easier, but the hours are also shit. Midnight shifts. This applies to all the different businesses you listed.

That is why some people prefer the 9 - 5 job. Steady income. No need to worry about sales. Just do what is required. And it is not hard labour. Just sit in front of a computer unless you're the kind of staff that go on site.

You are right though. As long as you're hardworking, even without a cert, you can still be comfortable. But don't give the wrong idea to the general public that just starting your own business, RM200 per day is not very hard. It is. So to each their own. Some still prefer a desk job. While some like to open at pasar malam.
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QUOTE(advocado @ Jul 20 2017, 11:45 AM)
business go up & down, when i say rm200, it's not an upper limit, you can be making rm 300 or rm500 depending on individual, of course, if you bad attitude & spoilt nasi then better just don't even start. average rm200 per day is not a dream. you seems to be very fixated on the rm200 must be everyday rm200, cannot more or less.

yes you passby, doesn't mean they are right next to each other. and since you are so calculative, tell me those 4 stalls, how many meters are they away from each other exactly?

for me, if the stalls are good, today i eat this stall the next the other if i am used to nasi lemak everyday, so those stalls still get a constant flow.

like i said, so difficult meh rm200?

and why, must you sit down and drink when you buy a drink? you see those drink sellers on motor, they got table & chairs to let you sit down and drink? or do they just wrap the plastic and let you takeaway?
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lol someone bump advocado sohai thread again for what
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You started with RM 200 and die die said easy. I use that as an example la. Now you ask me why I fixated. Dude ?

2 stalls are right next to each other. One otw to work. One at workplace. So how ? Today I feel like the first stall. Sold out ayam. I go the one next door. Tomorrow I like that kuah at my place. Harlow ? What calculative. You think your nasi lemak stall super popular 100 packs a day no problem. Start one la.

You just replied just now "Not easy". What's the exact word for that ? Laborious ? Demanding ? Tough ? No la. Not difficult.

You conveniently mention drink seller. They sell DRINKS and buns and paraphernalia that isn't a full meal. Why didn't ask them bring together nasi lemak and burger ?

If you wan't to start a debate, at least acknowledge certain facts when it is correct. Don't just argue for the sake of argument.



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how bout the cost of good sold? sell nasi lemak at 2, what is ur margin? end up tired only.
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dude i really think u a poser based on your english comprehension skills i don't think you are capable of leading "projects" or films but lets not be personal.

i already laid out the rough estimation, anywhere i say NO COST in the 1st post???
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QUOTE(AttilaTheHun @ Jul 20 2017, 12:00 PM)
You started with RM 200 and die die said easy. I use that as an example la. Now you ask me why I fixated. Dude ?

2 stalls are right next to each other. One otw to work. One at workplace. So how ? Today I feel like the first stall. Sold out ayam. I go the one next door. Tomorrow I like that kuah at my place. Harlow ? What calculative. You think your nasi lemak stall super popular 100 packs a day no problem. Start one la.

You just replied just now "Not easy". What's the exact word for that ? Laborious ? Demanding ? Tough ? No la. Not difficult.

You conveniently mention drink seller. They sell DRINKS and buns and paraphernalia that isn't a full meal. Why didn't ask them bring together nasi lemak and burger ?

If you wan't to start a debate, at least acknowledge certain facts when it is correct. Don't just argue for the sake of argument.
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o so now you want to play word games huh?

So difficult, it's the difficulty, it's not the how physically intensive it is, of course it's not easy, you think goyang kaki the nasi lemak gonna cook itself? if you willing to get your fat ass up, it's not difficult at all.

tell me which part of rm200/day is difficult? so far you only say difficult so tell me the difficult part. don't give lame excuse like hard labor this & that. people go to opis 9-5 have to walk to bus stop stand at bus stop stand on bus for another 1 hour then walk to lrt station then stand and wait and stand again in LRT to destination then walk again to office. that one easy?

i suspect you a nasi lemak seller yourself that is why you felt threatened when i revealed the truth.
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how bout the cost of good sold? sell nasi lemak at 2, what is ur margin? end up tired only.
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margin? based on the smart ass it's only 10%-30% for nasi lemak wo, so how?
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Buy from another seller and re-sell with rm5 markup
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QUOTE(advocado @ Jul 20 2017, 10:21 AM)
of course you need to pay. but when i say make rm200 do i mean net rm200?

i gave a brief statement on cost, they are quite low compared to a proper business.

you probably don't know F&B, their material cost is very low compared to their sales price. margin is like 50% for food, water, if home made, probably 300% or more. since i propose are road side stall or things doesn't involve a shop, you need to chuck up around rm3k for the stall as CAPEX. if you DIY the cost will be much lower.

bike & car i have to assume you already have, so you pay the petrol.

and if you need electricity you have to invest in a Diesel Generator, usually if you sell at night just for the lights.

CAPEX can be recovered within 3 months time. then after that is just Revenue minus OPEX. your price is lower than restaurants but margin is higher and risk are lower.

if flipping burger & nasi lemak not your taste, you can always drive or become GRO/escort. the time the article was written there was no Uber/Grab.

also now you can sell cupcakes like fabularis.
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true profit can be as high as 300% but the work force needed is super high ...
i.e i make my own buttermilk .. to make it per batch will take around 2 days (depending on the temperature) then you gotta pour it in a tainted glass jar and sterilize it..
also to make it worth my time i need to make around 30kg of buttermilk twice every week ..
planning on selling my homemade buttermilk .. so I might need to increase the volume i made..
I'm pretty sure people think flipping burger / jual nasi lemak = low class low pay jig .. but on average they make around 3-6k per month (SALARY)
and theres 1 guy around my area selling nasi lemak drives an 2016 Estima ... tell me how many of you can afford to buy Estima?

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Genius ni..
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Shell station already buy from supplier and sell at rm2 la. thing is your margin will be less as you are going tru supplier and your sales price will be high.

if really based on some smart guy claim nasi lemak margin is 10-30%, then Shell margin would be at most 5-10%. might as well just sell newspaper.

guys need to wake up F&B margin is higher than you think it is. drinks even higher.
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QUOTE(Flizzardo @ Jul 20 2017, 11:16 AM)
usually we dont bake too many

but by night usually we will give out discounts so that there arent too many leftover. usually if they are leftover i'd buy them and eat myself or give away to staffs
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hmmm... interesting ...
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cause with all da pastries I'm you use buttermilk flex.gif
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QUOTE(fabularis @ Jul 20 2017, 01:39 PM)
true profit can be as high as 300% but the work force needed is super high ...
i.e i make my own buttermilk .. to make it per batch will take around 2 days (depending on the temperature) then you gotta pour it in a tainted glass jar and sterilize it..
also to make it worth my time i need to make around 30kg of buttermilk twice every week ..
planning on selling my homemade buttermilk .. so I might need to increase the volume i made..
I'm pretty sure people think flipping burger / jual nasi lemak = low class low pay jig .. but on average they make around 3-6k per month (SALARY)
and theres 1 guy around my area selling nasi lemak drives an 2016 Estima ... tell me how many of you can afford to buy Estima?
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the thing is ur item is niche & not easy to make compare to nasi lemak & burger, and quality difference is bigger for them, 1 day more oily, next day less oily, people still ok with it, coz it's cheap & everyday you eat. as long not turn sour or bad then people don't mind. the sambal already cover all the problem.

no doubt they have to wake up early to prepare if they sell breakfast, but they can rest the rest of the day.

burger stalls usually part time night time, so no need wake up early, but have to stay up late, still got lots of spare time.

and remember 300% is for those shops with high OPEX to cover, for small stalls the OPEX & risk are lower, they are allowed lower margin to be attractive but still margin easily 50-150%. if you think it really cost so much to make 1 packet of nasi lemak i think you are doing it wrong.

kuih muih & drinks cost even less as you produce in big bulk and cost is really little unless you use exotic materials.

for F&B, if you don't need to pay high rent & wage, i think material cost is really negligible, that is why so many kaka macik selling. but as they get old and new people not willing to work with blood & sweat, you don't see that many nowadays.

it's not difficult, but you have to be willing to work, as i already stated in the 1st post. i don't get why people can't even bother read the whole 1st post and yet they made so many post asking answers already given in the 1st post.

btw wots your target margin for them cupcakes? i guess should be higher since demand not as high as nasi lemak and cost is higher for them materials.
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i vote BN not because i support BN, but it's something that needs to be done for the sake of the country & it's people.

anway, today we can already see my writings are precise, just look at the amount of people working part time as Uber/Grab.

in another 2-3 years, we will see Nasi Lemak stalls & burger stalls mushrooming, when many SME starts to close down and people start to lose their jobs, but by then you'll be rushing with the hoards, difficult to build customer loyalties by then, and also takes time to refine your products.

anyway people here seems to only interested in chasing tails in circles so i guess let's just continue with our 9-5 lives and check back when your company closes down.
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QUOTE(advocado @ Jul 20 2017, 01:46 PM)
the thing is ur item is niche & not easy to make compare to nasi lemak & burger, and quality difference is bigger for them, 1 day more oily, next day less oily, people still ok with it, coz it's cheap & everyday you eat. as long not turn sour or bad then people don't mind. the sambal already cover all the problem.

no doubt they have to wake up early to prepare if they sell breakfast, but they can rest the rest of the day.

burger stalls usually part time night time, so no need wake up early, but have to stay up late, still got lots of spare time.

and remember 300% is for those shops with high OPEX to cover, for small stalls the OPEX & risk are lower, they are allowed lower margin to be attractive but still margin easily 50-150%. if you think it really cost so much to make 1 packet of nasi lemak i think you are doing it wrong.

kuih muih & drinks cost even less as you produce in big bulk and cost is really little unless you use exotic materials.

for F&B, if you don't need to pay high rent & wage, i think material cost is really negligible, that is why so many kaka macik selling. but as they get old and new people not willing to work with blood & sweat, you don't see that many nowadays.

it's not difficult, but you have to be willing to work, as i already stated in the 1st post. i don't get why people can't even bother read the whole 1st post and yet they made so many post asking answers already given in the 1st post.

btw wots your target margin for them cupcakes? i guess should be higher since demand not as high as nasi lemak and cost is higher for them materials.
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around 250%
though i am trying to sell raw materials like buttermilk ..
per litre cost around rm22 and if you buy bulk from supplier rm 15-17 ..and once open you need to use em within 2 weeks or it'll turn bad (and the ones they sell is 99% reduce fat buttermilk)..
as for me, planning to sell em at rm12-13 per litre can last a month after open and mine is full fat (fat = flavor in food)
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Boss cut your salary so he can earn extra rm200 a day
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how much you earn doesn't really matter... how much you still have after deducting all expenses is what matters.
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QUOTE(fabularis @ Jul 20 2017, 01:50 PM)
around 250%
though i am trying to sell raw materials like buttermilk ..
per litre cost around rm22 and if you buy bulk from supplier rm 15-17 ..and once open you need to use em within 2 weeks or it'll turn bad (and the ones they sell is 99% reduce fat buttermilk)..
as for me, planning to sell em at rm12-13 per litre can last a month after open and mine is full fat (fat = flavor in food)
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so u saying with fat it also acts like preservative (2 weeks vs 1 month)?
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Boss cut your salary so he can earn extra rm200 a day
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that would be at least rm4k a month...
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talk again when you calculate the cost
nasi lemak won't fall from sky for you to sell

even prostitute need cost to maintain
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how much you earn doesn't really matter... how much you still have after deducting all expenses is what matters.
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that is why i did not recommend any high CAPEX/OPEX for you folks.

Gigolo & Prostitute/escorts can offer higher ROI assume you taken all the safety measures to avoid medical fees.

Taxi/Private transport you can already see many people are doing right now lo, my recommendations was 3 years ago when there was no uber/grab.

Most people not willing because it's alot of blood & sweat, and also low cost, compared to Uber where you sit in aircon car drive around, people probably think you are fetching friend.

For Escorts, i'm sure there are a number of ladies doing it part time, maybe not prostitutes but escorts. good money. many ladies in advance countries are doing it as additional income.
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talk again when you calculate the cost
nasi lemak won't fall from sky for you to sell

even prostitute need cost to maintain
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i say you go reread the 1st post instead of asking about the same question already answered.

yes, nasi lemak won't fall from the sky, nor will they cook themselves while you sit on your fat ass.

if you don't appreciate, GTFO, come back in 2020 when your company shuts down.
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QUOTE(advocado @ Jul 20 2017, 11:21 AM)
doesn't make sense you actually Buy them.

coz you pay for it, and it registers as income, which is taxable, so it's double jeopardy. give to staff is common.

but then, you got few branches so you can't eat so many also.
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lol

what nonsense are you talking about, always talk right out of your ass lol

do you even know what double jeopardy is?

also clearly either you have never run a business, you think as an owner you just take products without paying ah? lol.

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hmmm... interesting ...
Flizz ..do you by any chance use buttermilk?  hmm.gif
cause with all da pastries I'm you use buttermilk  flex.gif
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QUOTE(advocado @ Jul 20 2017, 01:59 PM)
i say you go reread the 1st post instead of asking about the same question already answered.

yes, nasi lemak won't fall from the sky, nor will they cook themselves while you sit on your fat ass.

if you don't appreciate, GTFO, come back in 2020 when your company shuts down.
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gosh, even my ass sizes you also know, no wonder RM200/day is so easy for you
everything seems predictable in your wonderful world
come back in 2020 if you able to wake up from your dream
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and he's relishing on all the new fresh replies he is getting.
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QUOTE(Flizzardo @ Jul 20 2017, 02:12 PM)
lol

what nonsense are you talking about, always talk right out of your ass lol

do you even know what double jeopardy is?

also clearly either you have never run a business, you think as an owner you just take products without paying ah? lol.
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double jeopardy just a figure of word. i'm saying you get taxed unnecessarily by paying out of your own pocket & the same money from your pocket gets taxed.

but it's small amount for you i guess.

sometimes, you can actually create an account under expenditure. you know, like for company car petrol, belanja makan etc.

of course if you aren't the sole owner you cannot just simply take the roti without paying, but IMO that amount should go into another account rather than treat as normal tender.

those excess you can actually treat as like part of company benefit, which becomes expenditure.

just sayin, of course you know da best.
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QUOTE(skylee18 @ Jul 20 2017, 02:14 PM)
gosh, even my ass sizes you also know, no wonder RM200/day is so easy for you
everything seems predictable in your wonderful world
come back in 2020 if you able to wake up from your dream
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don't worry, 2020 just around the corner. you can check my other thread if you are interested.
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wall of text.

didn't read lel
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then just stop quoting and just use normal post. if you quote me, are you expecting a reply or wot?
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QUOTE(advocado @ Jul 20 2017, 02:17 PM)
double jeopardy just a figure of word. i'm saying you get taxed unnecessarily by paying out of your own pocket & the same money from your pocket gets taxed.

but it's small amount for you i guess.

sometimes, you can actually create an account under expenditure. you know, like for company car petrol, belanja makan etc.

of course if you aren't the sole owner you cannot just simply take the roti without paying, but IMO that amount should go into another account rather than treat as normal tender.

those excess you can actually treat as like part of company benefit, which becomes expenditure.

just sayin, of course you know da best.
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thats no even the correct way to use double jeopardy, it makes completely no sense

doesnt matter if you are a sole owner or not taking out item without paying will just cause deficit in closing and stock count and also encourage your staff to steal because it just make everything jumble up and untraceable


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QUOTE(Flizzardo @ Jul 20 2017, 02:22 PM)
thats no even the correct way to use double jeopardy, it makes completely no sense

doesnt matter if you are a sole owner or not taking out item without paying will just cause deficit in closing and stock count and also encourage your staff to steal because it just make everything jumble up and untraceable
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i dun think you need to educate him

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QUOTE(Flizzardo @ Jul 20 2017, 02:22 PM)
thats no even the correct way to use double jeopardy, it makes completely no sense

doesnt matter if you are a sole owner or not taking out item without paying will just cause deficit in closing and stock count and also encourage your staff to steal because it just make everything jumble up and untraceable
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that is why i say put it under operation cost. of course you have to set a good example, but those excess can be treated as part of employee benefit like late night snacks so even though in the end they cannot be sold they can be counted as part of expenditure.

by buying from your fully owned business it cost you more for that piece of roti that you just paid for. small item ok, but big item like petrol i'm sure you put it under company benefit/expenditure right?

or you actually pay for your own petrol?

if not fully own then better just pay, if not other shareholder may abuse it, even if you give them a company petrol card.
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post Jul 20 2017, 03:05 PM

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working as kuli, can pass or not?


previously in Myanmar, everyday wake up got ~RM425..
previously in Austria, everyday wake up got ~RM200..
currently in Bangalore, everyday wake up got ~RM250..

not yet add in salary..
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QUOTE(ReWeR @ Jul 20 2017, 02:25 PM)
i dun think you need to educate him
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haha why not
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QUOTE(advocado @ Jul 20 2017, 01:28 PM)
o so now you want to play word games huh?

So difficult, it's the difficulty, it's not the how physically intensive it is, of course it's not easy, you think goyang kaki the nasi lemak gonna cook itself? if you willing to get your fat ass up, it's not difficult at all.

tell me which part of rm200/day is difficult? so far you only say difficult so tell me the difficult part. don't give lame excuse like hard labor this & that. people go to opis 9-5 have to walk to bus stop stand at bus stop stand on bus for another 1 hour then walk to lrt station then stand and wait and stand again in LRT to destination then walk again to office. that one easy?

i suspect you a nasi lemak seller yourself that is why you felt threatened when i revealed the truth.
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No shit Sherlock. You have totally derailed off my points and not answered a single response I posted.

"i never say it's easy, did i? while some jobs are much easier if you willing to sacrifice your body. you will say there are job risks, sure, what job doesn't?" Your thread asks the question whether it is difficult or not. You answered your own question. Now you want to argue what difficulty you're referring to ? You might as well argue a 9 - 5 job requires tertiary education that is not required by nasi lemak seller. Hence it is 10x harder. Nasi lemak is easier.

When one can't win an argument, proceed to demean said person as fat and a nasi lemak seller.

Are you a 5 year old ? What nonsense are you spouting. Truth ? I guess the one feeling threatened here is none other than yourself. No wonder they say "Siapa bukak thread, dia butthurt." If you can't go into a healthy discussion, close the damn thread la. Look so damn pathetic.

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Sorry guys. Should have looked at the date the thread was started and why people stopped replying. Will stop feeding a retarded troll.
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QUOTE(AttilaTheHun @ Jul 20 2017, 03:12 PM)
Sorry guys. Should have looked at the date the thread was started and why people stopped replying. Will stop feeding a retarded troll.
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yup same here
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Jul 20 2017, 02:19 PM)
lucifah ini orang sudah pegi mana?
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Wah sudah lama hilang this lejen

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