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elea88
post Apr 21 2014, 09:04 AM

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QUOTE(Hapeng @ Apr 21 2014, 08:51 AM)
well actually u put Maxis on the table, anyone can find a better performing company to compare, so yea we can accept your decision that you think Nestle is expensive and not worth it. lets leave it at that.

my decision to buy nestle is because it is the market leader in its segment/industry.
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Yeah... and MILO is in every household.. biggest market for MILO now is the Foreign Workers...
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QUOTE(Hapeng @ Apr 21 2014, 08:51 AM)
well actually u put Maxis on the table, anyone can find a better performing company to compare, so yea we can accept your decision that you think Nestle is expensive and not worth it. lets leave it at that.

my decision to buy nestle is because it is the market leader in its segment/industry.
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And it will (almost) never die. Maggi, Nescafe, Milo, Nestum, these 4 brands alone is a good reason to buy. tongue.gif

U can have Power Root, Ah Huat etc etc etc coming up, but no one can replace Nescafe.

With about 10% growth, this year u have DY 3.5%, next year 3.8%, next next year 4.2%, and so on. What's not to like? wink.gif

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Apr 21 2014, 09:04 AM)
Yeah... and MILO is in every household.. biggest market for MILO now is the Foreign Workers...
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U no longer drink Milo? blink.gif

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post Apr 21 2014, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(Hapeng @ Apr 21 2014, 08:51 AM)

my decision to buy nestle is because it is the market leader in its segment/industry.
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Reflecting on my rookie investing mindset ....

Yes, Nestle is an attractive company to invest in, good fundamental, etc.

But at the moment, it is too expensive, not just the actual price but the high PE etc.

Current price is well above its intrinsic value (yes, different ways to calculate intrinsic value and which one is reliable?) .

My view is, even with market leaders or good solid fundamental companies, don't get in if the price is not right. Nestle has been in my watch list for at least 3 years now. With its high price now, the upside is less promising than some other companies.

My 2 cents.
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QUOTE(plumberly @ Apr 21 2014, 09:35 AM)
Reflecting on my rookie investing mindset ....

Yes, Nestle is an attractive company to invest in, good fundamental, etc.

But at the moment, it is too expensive, not just the actual price but the high PE etc.

Current price is well above its intrinsic value (yes, different ways to calculate intrinsic value and which one is reliable?) .

My view is, even with market leaders or good solid fundamental companies, don't get in if the price is not right. Nestle has been in my watch list for at least 3 years now. With its high price now, the upside is less promising than some other companies.

My 2 cents.
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Yes, I agree with u in a sense, current entry price is not attractive.

But, if u were to hold for long-term, the fundamentals will eventually catch up.

What if it never drops? U will miss the boat forever (well, u already missed for 3 years).

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post Apr 21 2014, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 21 2014, 09:40 AM)
Yes, I agree with u in a sense, current entry price is not attractive.

But, if u were to hold for long-term, the fundamentals will eventually catch up.

What if it never drops? U will miss the boat forever (well, u already missed for 3 years).
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Ha ha. I knew it that someone would be replying saying that I have missed 3 years of Nestle return.

In return, there are some companies doing better than Nestle though not as well known as Nestle (with different company fundamental).

My take is, if the price does not drop to my "wish" price, then Nestle will be more than happy not to have my name in their shareholder list! Ha.

Cheerio.

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Apr 21 2014, 09:47 AM)
Ha ha. I knew it that someone would replying saying that I have missed 3 years of Nestle return.

In return, there are some companies doing better than Nestle though not as well known as Nestle (with different company fundamental).

My take is, if the price does not drop to my "wish" price, then Nestle will be more than happy not to have my name in their shareholder list! Ha.

Cheerio.
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And the fact that u see its long term trend, even in a market crash it does not correct much. Pretty safe to treat it as a "bond substitute" to reduce my stock portfolio volatility.

Okay, I rest my case. wink.gif
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post Apr 21 2014, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 20 2014, 04:44 PM)
Expensive or not is relative.

If u can buy 100 lots of a penny stock, u CAN buy Nestle.

Nestle is currently trading at P/E 30 with dividend yield of 3%+, IF management were to do a stock split, yes it will improve liquidity, but it won't change the fundamentals one bit - you want people to goreng Nestle til it trades at P/E 50 times with DY 2%??? shakehead.gif doh.gif
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 21 2014, 09:22 AM)
And it will (almost) never die. Maggi, Nescafe, Milo, Nestum, these 4 brands alone is a good reason to buy. tongue.gif

U can have Power Root, Ah Huat etc etc etc coming up, but no one can replace Nescafe.

With about 10% growth, this year u have DY 3.5%, next year 3.8%, next next year 4.2%, and so on. What's not to like? wink.gif
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If we use unker gark's formula...
growth 10%; DY 3.5%
then PE should be 13.5 or less.
Given that Nestle is ultra defensive, I would relax the PE requirement...
Let's say PE = 20 wink.gif

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post Apr 21 2014, 12:01 PM

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Resilient consumer spending boosts Nestle's 1Q revenue

http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/business-ne...1q-revenue.html
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post Apr 21 2014, 03:30 PM

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did anyone heard that if the water problem still go on for next month in KV, Nestle would incur rm15mil loss daily & there's would be staff retrenchment hmm.gif
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So many "Bill Ackman" pulling down Nestle laugh.gif doh.gif
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post Apr 25 2014, 09:48 AM

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Nestle to increase Milo’s price by 5% to 7%
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post Apr 25 2014, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(river.sand @ Apr 25 2014, 09:48 AM)
rclxms.gif don't think will affect consumers.
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post Apr 25 2014, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Apr 21 2014, 09:47 AM)
Ha ha. I knew it that someone would be replying saying that I have missed 3 years of Nestle return.

In return, there are some companies doing better than Nestle though not as well known as Nestle (with different company fundamental).

My take is, if the price does not drop to my "wish" price, then Nestle will be more than happy not to have my name in their shareholder list! Ha.

Cheerio.
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Not just 3 years return which is minor compare to the capital gains...3 years ago Nestle was at RM45 and now RM68.50... 15% annual compound rate of increase.

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post Apr 25 2014, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(river.sand @ Apr 25 2014, 09:48 AM)
WTF vmad.gif mad.gif cry.gif


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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Apr 25 2014, 02:50 PM)
WTF  vmad.gif  mad.gif  cry.gif
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buy the shares, get 5-7% growth? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 25 2014, 02:53 PM)
buy the shares, get 5-7% growth? tongue.gif
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haha... and to offset the price increment u pay to drink milo at mamak.. hahah tongue.gif

btw, i too think that the price is too expensive to enter. like buying 1 lot of nestle share = 3 lots of shares from other company.
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 25 2014, 02:53 PM)
buy the shares, get 5-7% growth? tongue.gif
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Price already near 5y high, should hv bough when price around rm45 cry.gif
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Apr 25 2014, 03:05 PM)
Price already near 5y high, should hv bough when price around rm45 cry.gif
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I dumped already, moving the money elsewhere. Total gain (price + divvy) of 9%++ in less than 1 year.
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 25 2014, 03:06 PM)
I dumped already, moving the money elsewhere. Total gain (price + divvy) of 9%++ in less than 1 year.
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Good for you bro rclxms.gif notworthy.gif

Anyway look on the bright side, I "indirectly own" Nestle by various Amanah Saham Scheme that I invested icon_idea.gif

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