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 BE CAREFUL: Landed Properties With Stata Title, You can face high maintenance fee later!

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TSUnderTheSun
post Apr 5 2014, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(babana @ Apr 5 2014, 12:01 PM)
ummm...boss, the reason why landed strata came about was to make the living environment more organised and systematic in the neighbourhood. i definitely wouldnt wanna live next to a neighbour which decides to paint his house green and install huge cast iron grilles or do something atrocious in which i cant do anything about.

in terms of value...well, i dont see props in dpc being sold at a lower price compared to say spk or bu, do u?  wink.gif
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Yeah. What I am saying is buying landed strata does not guarantee a higher value than buying landed individual. And vice versa. We have to do research before buying. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Apr 5 2014, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ Apr 5 2014, 10:21 AM)
Boss I dun think the insiders wanna pay high maintenance fee if they r holding or living in. My current full GNG onli charge 0.20 psf. Reasonable or too high har???
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I believe many of you are smart people. Let's relook at the situation. Under Strata Title Act, they have to maintain corridors, facilities, etc. They do not maintain whatever inside your house. But why are they charging based on per square foot (psf) of your house? By right, they should charge based on per square foot (psf) of total corridors, facility areas, etc. And divide it equally. Those are common facilities.

So, I would say 0.20 psf is an unreasonable method of calculation. We are so used to it that we fail to see a sensible method of calculation. smile.gif

Maybe you could voice it out during the JMB meeting.

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post Apr 5 2014, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(UnderTheSun @ Apr 5 2014, 12:20 PM)
I believe many of you are smart people. Let's relook at the situation. Under Strata Title Act, they have to maintain corridors, facilities, etc. They do not maintain whatever inside your house. But why are they charging based on per square foot (psf) of your house? By right, they should charge based on per square foot (psf) of total corridors, facility areas, etc. And divide it equally. Those are common facilities.

So, I would say 0.20 psf is an unreasonable method of calculation. We are so used to it that we fail to see a sensible method of calculation.  smile.gif

Maybe you could voice it out during the JMB meeting.
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errrrr, how come u think like that? if u own 1200sqft house and your neighbor's house is 2200 sqft and share same facilities, do u mind u pay same amount with your neighbor? later either one will tak puas hati...rclxub.gif
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post Apr 5 2014, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(potenza10 @ Apr 5 2014, 12:29 PM)
errrrr, how come u think like that? if u own 1200sqft house and your neighbor's house is 2200 sqft and share same facilities, do u mind u pay same amount with your neighbor?  later either one will tak puas hati...rclxub.gif
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They are maintaining the common access and facilities. Nothing to do with whatever inside your house. Whether you have large or small living room, they do not go inside your house and mop the floor.
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post Apr 5 2014, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(UnderTheSun @ Apr 5 2014, 12:40 PM)
They are maintaining the common access and facilities. Nothing to do with whatever inside your house. Whether you have large or small living room, they do not go inside your house and mop the floor.
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in other words poor people should pay the same tax rate as rich people blink.gif
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post Apr 5 2014, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(UnderTheSun @ Apr 5 2014, 12:03 PM)
HH is called G&G Neighbourhood while EcoBotanic is called G&G Community. Both charge maintenance and security fee. You can compare which one has reasonable charges given the security and maintenance it offers.
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I totally disagree... strata title is fully enforce by law, outsiders are restricted to enter..

Individual title is not fully enforce by any strata act.. outsiders by law is allow to enter without permission.. boom gate is merely for security checking..

Strata housing area can be organized on security restrictions and indivudual, no..
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post Apr 5 2014, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(MiLKTea @ Apr 5 2014, 12:41 PM)
in other words poor people should pay the same tax rate as rich people  blink.gif
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Not sure about tax. But 0.20 psf for strata maintenance fee is an unreasonable calculation to me.
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post Apr 5 2014, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(UnderTheSun @ Apr 5 2014, 12:40 PM)
They are maintaining the common access and facilities. Nothing to do with whatever inside your house. Whether you have large or small living room, they do not go inside your house and mop the floor.
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do you come accross any strata title prop charge maintenance base on door, not sqf?
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post Apr 5 2014, 12:51 PM

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QUOTE(UnderTheSun @ Apr 5 2014, 12:40 PM)
They are maintaining the common access and facilities. Nothing to do with whatever inside your house. Whether you have large or small living room, they do not go inside your house and mop the floor.
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I think u dont understand how it works at all..
Larger units charge with higher maintenance fee with the assumption bigger units have more ppl staying in thus more headcount to use the common facilities per unit.. u may argue small unit can hav more ppl or large unit only 1 person, but that is the closest assumption u can get..
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post Apr 5 2014, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(bcpbeancounter @ Apr 5 2014, 12:47 PM)
do you come accross any strata title prop charge maintenance base on door, not sqf?
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Not so far. Like I said, we are so used to it that we fail to apply a sensible calculation method.
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post Apr 5 2014, 12:56 PM

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QUOTE(twincharger07 @ Apr 5 2014, 12:51 PM)
I think u dont understand how it works at all..
Larger units charge with higher maintenance fee with the assumption bigger units have more ppl staying in thus more headcount to use the common facilities per unit.. u may argue small unit can hav more ppl or large unit only 1 person, but that is the closest assumption u can get..
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Then, you expect the more person in the house, the higher household income it has? How about a family with 3 to 4 children? Do the children have an income?

Surely, maintenance has nothing to do with your living room or bedroom space.

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post Apr 5 2014, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(twincharger07 @ Apr 5 2014, 12:51 PM)
I think u dont understand how it works at all..
Larger units charge with higher maintenance fee with the assumption bigger units have more ppl staying in thus more headcount to use the common facilities per unit.. u may argue small unit can hav more ppl or large unit only 1 person, but that is the closest assumption u can get..
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just about what i am going to say!!!

larger unit = more people = use facilities more = pay more

although it may not necessarily be true that larger units = more people but that's how it works...

i live in condo and i only use the lift...seldom use swimming pool, gym, never use sauna, badminton court, playground etc....am I entitled to cheaper maintenance fee?


TS...are you one of those owners with larger units but refused to pay more than owners with smaller units??
Haiyo, if like that buy smaller unit loh, problem settled...
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post Apr 5 2014, 12:58 PM

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QUOTE(twincharger07 @ Apr 5 2014, 12:51 PM)
I think u dont understand how it works at all..
Larger units charge with higher maintenance fee with the assumption bigger units have more ppl staying in thus more headcount to use the common facilities per unit.. u may argue small unit can hav more ppl or large unit only 1 person, but that is the closest assumption u can get..
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His logic doesnt make sense at all... tongue.gif
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post Apr 5 2014, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(MiLKTea @ Apr 5 2014, 12:57 PM)
just about what i am going to say!!!

larger unit = more people = use facilities more = pay more

although it may not necessarily be true that larger units = more people but that's how it works...

i live in condo and i only use the lift...seldom use swimming pool, gym, never use sauna, badminton court, playground etc....am I entitled to cheaper maintenance fee?
TS...are you one of those owners with larger units but refused to pay more than owners with smaller units??
Haiyo, if like that buy smaller unit loh, problem settled...
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Yeah. Club facilities should be optional and not included in the maintenance fee.

Your method of calculation is based on assumption. Hence, subject to argument. But everyone has his own opinion.

The purpose of this thread is to caution potential buyers on landed properties that come with strata title. No harm for potential buyers to consider. Unless a person is from the related company or is a sales agent or has vested interest in the sale of such properties, he or she shall not feel threatened. whistling.gif

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post Apr 5 2014, 01:17 PM

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I think the obvious answer is dun buy strata prop. Prob solved.

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post Apr 5 2014, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ Apr 5 2014, 01:17 PM)
I think the obvious answer is dun buy strata prop. Prob solved.
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Some individual titled properties also need to pay maintenance. They don't follow strata laws but sign a deed of mutual covenant or DMC

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post Apr 5 2014, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(UnderTheSun @ Apr 5 2014, 12:56 PM)
Then, you expect the more person in the house, the higher household income it has? How about a family with 3 to 4 children? Do the children have an income?

Surely, maintenance has nothing to do with your living room or bedroom space.
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Gosh.. what does it do with income..
You still dont get the point after so many ppl gav u thesame explanation. Nvm.. at least the rest are at the same tune with me...
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QUOTE(UnderTheSun @ Apr 5 2014, 01:10 PM)
Yeah. Club facilities should be optional and not included in the maintenance fee.

Your method of calculation is based on assumption. Hence, subject to argument. But everyone has his own opinion.

The purpose of this thread is to caution potential buyers on landed properties that come with strata title. No harm for potential buyers to consider. Unless a person is from the related company or is a sales agent or has vested interest in the sale of such properties, he or she shall not feel threatened.  whistling.gif
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Still don't get wat kind of caution u r giving
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post Apr 5 2014, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Apr 5 2014, 01:37 PM)
Some individual titled properties also need to pay maintenance. They don't follow strata laws but sign a deed of mutual covenant or DMC
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Then no choice. Wat bout kampung houses. Sure no such headache. laugh.gif
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post Apr 5 2014, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Apr 5 2014, 01:37 PM)
Some individual titled properties also need to pay maintenance. They don't follow strata laws but sign a deed of mutual covenant or DMC
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If signed the DMC but still dun want to pay. How ??

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