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 BE CAREFUL: Landed Properties With Stata Title, You can face high maintenance fee later!

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post Apr 5 2014, 11:03 AM

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Whether owned by developer or staff, its money invested. No one will want to do something that can jeopardize their own investment.

Though I agree with u about the possibility of manipulation. Just need to attend all JMB meeting and make noise lah. Ok wan....dun worry.
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post Apr 5 2014, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(maodi @ Apr 5 2014, 10:19 AM)
Don't buy landed with strata title if can't afford pay for maintenance. It is your decision. Once decision had made, then don't complaint MUCH here and there. No one force you buy.
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Yes, this is my point. Becareful when choosing a property! If not careful, you may suffer later by deceitful developers. rclxms.gif


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post Apr 5 2014, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(UnderTheSun @ Apr 5 2014, 11:04 AM)
Yes, this is my point. Becareful when choosing a property! If not careful, you may suffer later by deceitful developers. rclxms.gif
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But why only landed with strata title face this issue? condo no issue? shocking.gif
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post Apr 5 2014, 11:12 AM

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Strata title landed is the trends for the future.

If that is your worry, perhaps u can only go for the individual title landed. That is the only way to go!
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post Apr 5 2014, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(bcpbeancounter @ Apr 5 2014, 11:08 AM)
But why only landed with strata title face this issue? condo no issue?  shocking.gif
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Same advice. Careful when choosing one. Keep an eye of the developer. Last time, condos have lots of issues. For landed, you will have more rights owning an individual title than owning strata title. But if choose the one with strata title, becareful. nod.gif

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post Apr 5 2014, 11:26 AM

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I agree with this bro.
If paying extra bucks but can rent and sell at a better price then why not?
I dun even mind to pay 1K+ on maintenance fee if there are plenty of nice landscape at living area.

QUOTE(Martinis @ Apr 5 2014, 09:26 AM)
First of all, the reason why many JMB face shortages of funds are because of people like you. Always skeptical that JMB gasak money lah, increase fees lah. Please la, I welcome all increases in management fees. In fact, I worry they do not increase enough. Few hundred extra is nothing compared to the headache of less well maintained properties because of shortage of funds. High fees = well maintained properties = easy to sell, easy to rent = high market value of your properties! Don't fret over small money.
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post Apr 5 2014, 11:29 AM

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Ya me too. My bigger worry would be irrationally stingy neighbours and not so much the fee itself tongue.gif
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post Apr 5 2014, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(UnderTheSun @ Apr 5 2014, 10:49 AM)
Developers are divided into two: incompetent and competent. Among the competent developers, there are sincere ones and cunning ones.

Horizon Hills in Nusajaya is developed by a sincere developer. They only charge between RM100 to RM150 for security and maintenance. Clubhouse is optional with an additional fee of RM100. Golf membership is also optional. Yet the landscape beautiful, neat and well-maintained. The property value is superb.

We need to pay adequate maintenance and security fee, not too low and not too high. Paying too high for maintenance and security fee reflects inefficient spending of community money.

Strata Title Act (Act 757) requires the participation of developer even after the property has been delivered. The owners are not at liberty to choose maintenance contractors which offer best value for money. This is a flaw of the Act. The Act was drafted by mainly consulting the developers, not owners of properties.
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Horizon Hill strata or individual?
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post Apr 5 2014, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(UnderTheSun @ Apr 5 2014, 11:19 AM)
Same advice. Careful when choosing one. Keep an eye of the developer. Last time, condos have lots of issues. For landed, you will have more rights owning an individual title than owning strata title. But if choose the one with strata title, becareful.  nod.gif
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I think you could confuse what is the difference btw individual title landed and strata title landed.

Are u one of the EcoBotanic buyer?

My advise is, buy any property with indv or strata title, we also need to becareful. For most types, I much prefer stratified landed compare to individual title due to DMC and proper security. If u have no confident of the developer capability, facilities, t&c, dmc ..., just skip.
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QUOTE(twincharger07 @ Apr 5 2014, 11:36 AM)
Horizon Hill strata or individual?
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Boss. Individual title.

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post Apr 5 2014, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(UnderTheSun @ Apr 5 2014, 10:49 AM)
Developers are divided into two: incompetent and competent. Among the competent developers, there are sincere ones and cunning ones.

Horizon Hills in Nusajaya is developed by a sincere developer. They only charge between RM100 to RM150 for security and maintenance. Clubhouse is optional with an additional fee of RM100. Golf membership is also optional. Yet the landscape beautiful, neat and well-maintained. The property value is superb.

We need to pay adequate maintenance and security fee, not too low and not too high. Paying too high for maintenance and security fee reflects inefficient spending of community money.

Strata Title Act (Act 757) requires the participation of developer even after the property has been delivered. The owners are not at liberty to choose maintenance contractors which offer best value for money. This is a flaw of the Act. The Act was drafted by mainly consulting the developers, not owners of properties.
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i think i can see where this thread is heading to... whistling.gif
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post Apr 5 2014, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Apr 5 2014, 11:47 AM)
Boss. Individual title.
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Thanks Chris kor.. I oso skeptical when he/she compare it with Horizon Hill..

@UnderTheSun, y compare Horizon Hill with this Ecobotanic as the title are different? And saying HH charge lower is more sincere is totally nonsense since they are individual at the 1st place..
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Despite being gated and guarded, Horizon Hills offers individual title. They also have anti-climb fences and security cameras. The value is much higher than EcoBotanic.

Buying landed strata title does not mean you will have a higher value than landed individual title. Paying higher maintenance fee does not mean you will have a greater value than paying moderate maintenance fee.
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QUOTE(babana @ Apr 5 2014, 11:49 AM)
i think i can see where this thread is heading to... whistling.gif
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I give you one LIKE..
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post Apr 5 2014, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(UnderTheSun @ Apr 5 2014, 11:53 AM)
Despite being gated and guarded, Horizon Hills offers individual title. They also have anti-climb fences and security cameras. The value is much higher than EcoBotanic.

Buying landed strata title does not mean you will have a higher value than landed individual title. Paying higher maintenance fee does not mean you will have a greater value than paying moderate maintenance fee.
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HH is called F&G .. not full G&G.. Security makes a big difference...

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post Apr 5 2014, 11:56 AM

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If you wanna know where this thread is heading to, read the topic again smile.gif
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QUOTE(UnderTheSun @ Apr 5 2014, 11:53 AM)
Despite being gated and guarded, Horizon Hills offers individual title. They also have anti-climb fences and security cameras. The value is much higher than EcoBotanic.

Buying landed strata title does not mean you will have a higher value than landed individual title. Paying higher maintenance fee does not mean you will have a greater value than paying moderate maintenance fee.
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ummm...boss, the reason why landed strata came about was to make the living environment more organised and systematic in the neighbourhood. i definitely wouldnt wanna live next to a neighbour which decides to paint his house green and install huge cast iron grilles or do something atrocious in which i cant do anything about.

in terms of value...well, i dont see props in dpc being sold at a lower price compared to say spk or bu, do u? wink.gif
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QUOTE(twincharger07 @ Apr 5 2014, 11:55 AM)
HH is called F&G .. not full G&G.. Security makes a big difference...
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HH is called G&G Neighbourhood while EcoBotanic is called G&G Community. Both charge maintenance and security fee. You can compare which one has reasonable charges given the security and maintenance it offers.

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This thread will eventually be called the top ten reasons why HH is the best tongue.gif
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happy to pay more money and is HOPING more bonus...paying is confirm but bonus is not confirm...how ridiculous to think like that?

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