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 Crusader V1, The unbending champions of Faith & Law

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post Apr 25 2014, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(stevenryl86 @ Apr 25 2014, 03:56 PM)
Paper dps = crap

On paper dps I only have 300k, I'm holy build with Fist of the heaven skills + Darklight flair. 

Critical 2.5-3mil Condemn critical for 9-10mil.

Cooldown reduction 38%, 20% Holy dmg.

I always run T2 in party.

There is no tank in Diablo, kill fast + run when danger on that spot.
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cool story u have there bru. no tank monks can go cry themselves or just delete the class from game.

indeed paper dps mean nothing. Pretty sure everyone has past this point.

I'm on 82% holy, my eDPS is 1.4m, to elite is 1.6m. Sheet dps is 800k only.

Using Skycutter. Blessed shield Crits One shield throw 7-9m. To elite 12-16m. 2 shields out per second, bounce 9 mobs + shattering throw.

http://jleight.com/d3ps/

Use this to calculate.


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post Apr 28 2014, 11:48 AM

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Since release people have been saying CDR + ele dmg is the way to go for crus. Now people are believing it. Before that all still stacking "Aspd" and go "Trifecta". Lel.

3* T6 builds so far that works really well but very gear dependent.

1. CDR Condemn Build AC with Akkhan.
2. ASPD build with Gyrfalcon's Foote + Jekangbord.
Edit : 3. Commander build, CDR Akkhan with Baleful Remnant and shield bash.

I've got 5 akkhan set pieces and a RoRG just need a freaking BoP to make shits possible.

Or just a gyrfalcon's.

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QUOTE(Vorador @ Apr 28 2014, 01:30 PM)
It's painful to be an under-gear Crusader...

While many of you crusader player there are owning all the high end gears for you to play different builds, many are still struggling as a low-end crusader (like mine) who don't have any good weapon to spam out skill.

I'm currently wielding a 2H weapon and using heavenly strength. What's happen was sometime I happen to got a right full of FAST RUNNING BAST**D. Like those ghost, sand wasp, small spider and so. And many of these fast running monster are good at running away from you, and come back doing guerrilla attack while you're swarmed by other elites...

Today I'm so 'lucky' to kena 2 groups of elites: 1 Group of champion sand wasp and 1 Yellow elite of  Ghost. Both are "FAST, EXTRA HEALTH", one of them got nightmarish while another got jail. It's one of the most frustrating fight I ever encountered since playing D3... darn all of them easily out run my slow ass Crusader and runaway whenever I hit them once... it took me close to 20 minutes to clear them...

well I still hoping for a Gryfalcon... wanna go take revenge on all these jokers!!!
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And people are looking down on a 1Hander saying there's not enough damage. Neglecting the Aspd and the movespeed.

I run with a Skycutter. A 1handed +holy weapon. I rape better than my 2Hander due to Ele dmg, more hits per sec, and runs faster, and I don't use long CD skills for burst. Of course, it isn't end game, but from lagging behind my team in T2, to carrying them in T3, with just one weapon change and build change. Feelsgoodmang.jpg

Everyone was under-geared at some point. Heck I can't even get one of the three "great weapons" of the crusader. Under-geared crusader is really painful because this class is too gear dependent. Which is no longer an issue after playing for long but I hate it when luck plays huge part in making you "geared".

QUOTE(KruteX @ Apr 28 2014, 04:28 PM)
Is it a good combination jekang + BoP with Arkhan set? If using full set bonus arkhan set. (Assuming royal ring is equipped) do we still need reaper wrath?
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Safe to say as long as you use blessed shield as a spender, Jekang is the best shield.

When using BoP you'll mainly want to focus CDR. Blessed shield should be a "Downtime" skill where all your skills will be on CD. The idea is to get to 0 CD eventually though so by then you can prolly change a different skill.

Only if you have less than say... 5-10 seconds downtime, then you can take away wraps. If not, it's still BiS.

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QUOTE(KruteX @ Apr 28 2014, 11:01 PM)
today i completed arkhan full set bonus (5 piece + royal ring) and i did tested BoP, but i think currently the build is still not viable to me due to : im low lvl paragon. just P170, if i want to go for cdr, i will lose my cd which boost the dmg.

and my royal ring have quite bad roll... hmm i think i need to farm GG royal ring as well.
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Grats on 5 set! I just got a FotF drop as well. Currently enjoying God's shotgun.

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Apr 30 2014, 09:17 AM)
well i was trying to believe crusader can get a similar result like my d2 zealadin paladin. gave up on that till they make that viable (which i seriously doubt). even galileo said go out and try for yourself before you make assumption >->; how else to learn.

how does aspd work with gyrfalcon ? i understand it's not cdr based, but i don't recall it being aspd either doh.gif
for the condemn build, i also use blessed shield with jaekobong. reaper wraps regens my resource back.
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Because faster shield throws.

Last I see my shields are hitting 7-9m on white and 12-16m on elites. Throwing at 1.8 shields per second. Imagine if I can make it throw 2 shields per second? Pretty darn good.

As long as it's spender focused, ASPD is always good, except well, shield bash..... which I'm pretty sure it's an animation bug.

I'm now on FotF god's shotgun build, and ASPD still helps a lot because once law of valor - unstoppable force is activated, I use 50% lesser wrath in 5 seconds, so I need to make sure to ditch out the most within that time frame. Attack speed helps with that.

CDR however, helps that the cooldown of the law comes in quicker so that you're ready for next elite pack. It really depends on your style then but ASPD does help. I took a different approach, which is RCR + ASPD. Which means with Law activated, I can spam HF-FoH for around 10 times before my wrath goes dry. And all my QWER (1234) slots are wrath generation and not burst.

QUOTE(vonzipper @ Apr 30 2014, 10:55 AM)
Sifus,

Which stats should I give up for socket?
Thanks!  icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif

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Definitely RCR to socket. With this weapon you want to use condemn builds and all condemn builds are CDR based. This weapon always roll CDR anyway.

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QUOTE(KruteX @ May 1 2014, 02:53 AM)
I think BS build won`t be nerfed. As it has it own weakness such as inefficient against single target such as high torment rift boss. Plus, having a jekang and glyfacon wont be magic door for you to survive and  kill eficiently in higher torment as well. You still need other set item which focusing on increase aspd, and dmg to elite. Plus a good royal ring.
Last but not least you still need high torment lvl where your paragon aspd, cc and cd at high level.

So i conclude that this build wont be nerf as it take a lot of effort and time to achieve this state.

Just my 2 cents. Please correct me if im wrong. smile.gif
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You are right, please enjoy the video below. Made by the same person that cleared rifts with ONLY blessed shield skill. When ppl call it nerf/OP, he made this video.




QUOTE(vonzipper @ May 1 2014, 10:41 AM)
Done..!! icon_rolleyes.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
Second BoP.... bad roll also.. reroll vitality for socket?
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Vit to socket yes. And I'm yet to get one BoP, what the hell...
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QUOTE(deathTh3Cannon @ May 2 2014, 11:35 AM)
Whoops.
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???? Sup?
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Mortal Drama is at a much higher drop rate than other flails though. Data says so, my experience says so.

BoP and Gyr's still eluded me last weekend. If they don't push 2.0.4 out this Tuesday, can take a rest from D3 ad.

http://diablo.incgamers.com/blog/comments/...-rates-revealed
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QUOTE(jimchan @ May 5 2014, 10:17 AM)
2.0.4 is out and live already ma.. No meh?

Source: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/blog/13532431/p...w-live-4-8-2014
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Ah sorry derped, I meant 2.0.5.
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QUOTE(deathTh3Cannon @ May 5 2014, 11:11 AM)
somehow i feel without Gyr, jekang is useless.. when you throw the shield at fast speed, your resource drain like water.. sigh
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I disagree. With Jekang, blessed shield - scattering throw, from the most useless spender to the best spender. I was on a skycutter holy blessed shield build. No gyr's. 7-8m dmg to whites, 12-14m to elites. around 80% up-time because I used provoke and shield glare and LoV - unstoppable force. My biggest problem is of course, single target. Because even with Gyr's that's an issue but without, I've got no mobs to "Gain" my wrath. And no globes as well (wraps).

Then I found fate of the fell. I go shotgun. Still find it slot to clear white mobs, so I went 2 spender build. up-time 50% because of 2 spender, but I can kill single/mobs faster than other members in the party.

6 bounce jekang with a good stat, blessed shield is still the best spender/cost ratio. At least much better than sweep attack.

Then only one spender that can fair against it is Divine Well.

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QUOTE(Vorador @ May 5 2014, 11:33 AM)
Agreed, that's why falcon is my top priority biggrin.gif
I got inviolable faith yesterday with horrible stat (no main stat nor any of trifecta at all!)

And this is the second legendary flail for me since ROS release till now  doh.gif
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How much do you play per day? I thought I'm already unlucky enough around 400 hours in my crus and still not see the last 2 build defining flail/2h Sword.

QUOTE(faheem @ May 5 2014, 11:45 AM)
haha your situation just like mine.

this my build for Bombar + BS withour Gyr

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/faheem-1459/hero/44721947

this build is good on party T3-T5. but single target  hmm.gif
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Bombardment is used with high cdr, so I wouldn't bother what spender I use.

I use HF - FoH because I got FotF, which makes my single target dmg around 100m all crits on elite, point blank range. That solves the single target problem the build have, while white mobs are just 1-2 blessed shield throw and they'll bounce them to death.
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QUOTE(Vorador @ May 5 2014, 11:54 AM)
oh , for me around 2 hours per day.

Recently I sacrifice a bit of dps for another glove (Gladiator something one, rain gold) which gives me 8% CDR. Although it's little bit I feels like I can spam horsey more often  whistling.gif
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My sub (testing) crusader is on 54% cdr. Imagine... huehuehuehuehue

That glove sucks though, might as well use some CC/CD/CDR gloves. If you can find.

2 Hours a day, can't blame the slow gearing up. You'll get there.

QUOTE(jimchan @ May 5 2014, 11:56 AM)
OMG 10% cric chance, I roll alot of time only manage to get 8% cry.gif
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2% really isn't going to be much.
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QUOTE(faheem @ May 5 2014, 12:11 PM)
bro can share your bnet id? wanna test your build  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(deathTh3Cannon @ May 5 2014, 12:21 PM)
Can share your bnet ID ?
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Sorry was a bit caught up at work. Here's my ID. The male's the main, female is... well, leg dump/testing/forthelel build.

Edit : Not recommended to test my female build as she's T1 at best, very weak. I just wanna enjoy fast horsey so that I can T1 cache bags faster than my male.

Main's build also not recommended. I run with a group which is why I run like this. 2 Spender for a wrath starved class, big no no. But is it fun, you bet it is.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Xyreon-6190/hero/44156441

QUOTE(mikelanding @ May 5 2014, 01:15 PM)
My cruz now also got around 53%+ cdr. Only 2 akkhan pieces. It make my CD skill like Iron skin, Bowman, Condemn, Provoke, Judgement very low downtime. If with akkhan champion active, damn.. Almost godlike mode. But my build had 1 major flaw, the CC and CD is very low. I had to use Judgement Resolved to make up the low CC.

Was trying T6 with 2 WD, 1cruz yesterday night. Damn. Clearing trash and elite like T2-3. But did die few times when got 2 packs elite/champion.
1 of WD acted as health globe generator. With Reaper Wrap, Wrath is not an issue for me to keep shooting BS. 2 cruz used Judgement Resolved so we alway do CC dmg.

Cruz in party mode can act as tank and support. We got our Law, Judgement buff for all party members. BUT, we still lose to Monk as support since they have more constant buff than us.  sad.gif
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Stronk-nye T6. I don't dare to T6. Hp kena chip away too fast. Will only go when I get my last piece akkhan's.

That's solo though. WD prolly make any T6 easier.

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QUOTE(stevenryl86 @ May 5 2014, 08:26 PM)
If I'm a noob in a game well I don't mind though.

Do you want a more diversified build rather than 1 build to kill them all?
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Nah, that don't define what a noob is.

Not acknowledging that there are other builds out there that can T6
and be mad at one build thinking it's so easily obtainable, is.

There's a video showing how useless that build is without the proper setup and paragon levels. Cookie cutter? 1 build that kills them all? Sorry man, that's how diablo works right now, but not one no, we have more than a few builds that clear T6, BS being one of it. What wiz has? Vyr's archon/Wand of Woh. WD? Starmetal Kukri vodoo pet. Barb? ww WW ww WW ww WW ww WW, hota WW. ww WW. hota.

Your point? Or you're just simply butt mad at how efficient people are doing their runs? If it's that case, though, really, this game doesn't need audiences like you.

Appreciate the opinion (without testing) though.

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QUOTE(KruteX @ May 7 2014, 02:11 PM)
This arkhan condemn build may only viable if ur paragon level is high enough so that u can stack good amount of cdr.. cc and cd.. thats why it is end game build. sad.gif
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If no Plevel, give up on aughild's and do crimson belt + pants/boots. The rest akkhan's. Still okay.
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QUOTE(Vorador @ May 8 2014, 01:27 AM)
been 1 whole week doing few rounds of rift, got up to 400++ BS then spent it on Kadala...

I have no idea how am I going to get falcon... sad.gif
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QUOTE(olman @ May 8 2014, 01:58 AM)
I have spent around 3k shards on her, i know how u feel mon.
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We should form a club. Sigh~

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QUOTE(Vorador @ May 8 2014, 11:15 AM)
lol I thought your cruddy quite powerful?  flex.gif  Anyway going to buy a new mouse later, play better tonight lol ~
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Not at all.... T4-T5 at best, shits not dropping for me... Time to quit...
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QUOTE(jimchan @ May 11 2014, 09:39 PM)
Hi guys,

Just got my SoJ and reroll the stats.

Based on your personal experience should I keep the CHD or reroll for Holy Skills?

Need some advise. Thanks in advance!

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Oh my god what was the element % that you rolled it away?

Holy % man, the only ring that can roll element so you don't want to give it up. Should've rolled the aspd away to CHD/CDR/CHC but if your element was cold/fire/lightning then I understand why you'd roll it away.

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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ May 13 2014, 05:28 AM)
R.I.P BoP. Working as intended by Blizz. Now only procs 2. No more multiple kaboomsss
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Shit's never procced more than twice. Blizzard did nothing. Just bad tooltip.
And this is 3 weeks old news.
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6 set is used as a wrath preserver than a CD based build now.

That Rally nerf was uncalled for.

But on the bright side, those weapons that I do currently own, are seeing huge buffs.

Time to go back to shotgun I guess.

Also, welcome back my 2 second horse and no movement speed penalty and 30 second CD laws!

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