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 Crusader V1, The unbending champions of Faith & Law

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HeartRoxas
post May 14 2014, 11:31 AM

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Falling sword with cam's rebuttal is a ton of nuke fun.

Fire crusader with FotH - Heaven's Tempest, bombardment and superheated is fun.

Holy crusader, fotf + hallowed(holy%) or lidless(holy%, aspd, rcr) or hellskull(cdr, 10%dmg). Full set akkhan's Shotgun build = 0 builder easy game.

Lightning can seriously consider FS as their main nuke now.
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post May 14 2014, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(Vorador @ May 14 2014, 11:32 AM)
u know what... I just swtiched from fire build to holy build  doh.gif  (am wearing cindercoat now)

so... reroll all holy dmg back to fire?  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  But the damage is slightly lower than shattering throw, and I need the healing from holy damage.  hmm.gif  (Holy Cause passive) I sacrificed a lot of my Vit for Crit hit chance and +% Holy dmg.
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If you are still going to use BS, then shattering throw is still arguably the better rune.

Combust can only bounce 1 target and cannot bounce back, it only has a chance to cause more damage.

Let's say there is 4-5 mobs, combust clears is faster.

10+ mobs? Shattering throw still uncontested.

Full set akkhan's defeats the purpose of Gyrfalcon's as well. I tried a 0 builder BS build with Akkhan's and it's basically a 2handed Gyrfalcon's.

I'd stick to holy if I were you. No matter how viable Fire build is now, I still think holy wins hands down.

This post has been edited by HeartRoxas: May 14 2014, 11:42 AM
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post May 14 2014, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(Vorador @ May 14 2014, 11:43 AM)
hm... issit because Akkhan set give no bonus/ help to BS build?

My cindercoat still there and still looking for a chest which can help my BS build  sad.gif
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No, I was saying, with full Akkhan's you don't even need Gyr's because your wrath regen faster than you spend as long as AC is active. And still benefit from passives like wrathful too.

Only thing gyr's still has is prolly ASPD and a bit more CD (with fervor). But with movement speed reduction reduced, and AC reworked (much better wrath regen), I cannot see 1hander contesting 2hander at all.

QUOTE(gh0sty @ May 14 2014, 01:15 PM)
Is it necessary for weapons to have holy damage? Since the new passive "holy cause" now does not need the wep to be holy dmg to enjoy that 10% dmg buff... And I've done some searching that ... Whatever elemental dmg on your wep will be converted to the type of elemental your skill is... I hope I've made the right choice enchanting the Vit on my gyrfalcon to attack speed rather than arcane dmg to holy... It came with a natural socket...

Any ideas??
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No worries. Holy cause buffs all dmg now. I rerolled my fotf to holy dmg but after patch last night the first thing I do is try to get higher dmg, disregarding what element I get.
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post May 14 2014, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(Vorador @ May 14 2014, 01:37 PM)
haha ok, unfortunately, getting full set of akkhan is a big challenge...  rclxub.gif
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Kadala, Cache. It's MUCH easier than before where the whole loot table is random and when a green boot drops you get a BT and not knowing when is the next green you'll see. With kadala, you will get it. Perhaps even more BT in between but you are only getting BOOTS leg from her until you see an akkhan. Good luck.

QUOTE(gh0sty @ May 14 2014, 01:43 PM)
Thanks for confirming... Now I don't look like an idiot not enchant arcane dmg to holy dmg hahaha ...

Hmmm with all these new changes, I might consider going back to 2hd , like you've said, 1hd now cannot compete with 2hd.... Sigh... Just when I was about to enjoy spamming BShield...
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1H is not utterly useless I think, I was just saying you can still get 0 wrath cost (regen back) with a 2hander while throwing shields and get much higher dmg in the cost of lower ASPD. Which is why Fervor is there, the only thing 1Hand has in advantage now is ASPD, so fervor gives you ASPD AND CDR. They can compete with 2hander with a very different play style. I didn't test enough to know yet but I'll get my 1hander builds starting tonight.


Sidenote : BoP is still good. And there is a different type of BoP build now with falling sword and such. Basically you need to use all your skills then activate akarat's then use all your skills again. Then start spender-ing and rinse and repeat.
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QUOTE(mikelanding @ May 14 2014, 07:08 PM)
Bro,
You just found a bug. Keep it low. smile.gif
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QUOTE(FrostLance @ May 14 2014, 07:20 PM)
no all bounces should do max dmg. if its a bug then it breaking shattering throw
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QUOTE(gh0sty @ May 14 2014, 08:04 PM)
That means you will need jekangbord to do this (for the additional bounces)

Nice find biggrin.gif
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Not a bug.

1. Original BS only bounces on 1 target and will not bounce back.

2. Shattering throw does not have the bounce but rather, is split into 3 BUT has the tendency to bounce back.




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post May 18 2014, 07:49 PM

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ May 17 2014, 10:12 AM)
er.... LPH and IAS is a fixed stat in RoRG, no matter how you reroll you can never get chc, chd, cdr, str. Yours is good enough.

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post May 19 2014, 04:12 PM

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All pro crusaders... rclxms.gif
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post May 19 2014, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(gh0sty @ May 19 2014, 05:33 PM)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/CrankyM...2/hero/44554685

Ingame stats
DPS : 625k
HP : 530k
AR : 1200-1400
Toughness : 12-13mil
Block chance : 47%
Crowd control Reduction : 68%

Plans for my crusader (Blessed Shield Build)
- getting a countess Julia's cameo (arcane laser immunity)
- replacing my hellcat belt to BT belt once I get an ice climber (want to maintain set bonus of ground effect immunity)
- replacing my justice lantern to something that gives far better dps once I get ice climbers (reason for not swapping now is due to the 46% crowd control)

Any replacement suggestions for my Asheara's gloves and shoulders?
Was thinking of Akkhan gloves and shoulders for that additional 500 str but if it drops my Vit and toughness alot... Will have to reconsider something else... With RoRG, I'm enjoying that 100AR + 20%life from Asheara's bonus...

Open to suggestions...
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Go to bread and butter aughild's, BT, Cain. If you want the BT full set then disregard cain, Aughild's is pretty much a requirement. 15% e dmg reduce is better than 100AR + 20%life.

QUOTE(fe3doe @ May 19 2014, 05:38 PM)
Waa everyone showing ther cruu.. biggrin.gif here's mine

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/FE3DOE-6358/hero/43743255

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/FE3DOE-6358/hero/44374536

Owh wait.. Monk is my main.. But blizzz.. Haishh
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Hang in there fellow monk, you're still the best one to group with.
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QUOTE(moodswingfella @ May 19 2014, 06:01 PM)
hey guys im new to sader. i come from brobarian camp. decide to roll sader cuz i got tons of STR items in my stash, so i think perhaps i can utilize them and fit to new sader. (temporary gear b4 i got akhan of cuz)

so umm, planning to go for holy build later. any advise for me?

edit : so we used to leap to win with barb, how bout sader? blessed shield to win?
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Current meta, shotgun to win.
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post May 19 2014, 07:10 PM

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If you ever tasted T6 of any class, you know what's gear dependant is.

Crusader was VERY VERY gear dependant even at mid levels. But that's pre-2.0.4. We're more.. balanced now.

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QUOTE(moodswingfella @ May 19 2014, 07:16 PM)
maybe dont play all class, but i can say barb is gear dependant too. been playing barb for 300 +hours, so far MoTE is the best that can do T6 solo and group play comfortably. hell blizzard even nerf our leap build, to gain a smooth flow resource is now an issue for barb, but still MoTE is the way to go, just need to tweak the build a bit.

Also heard after the patch, sader are more balanced has a diversity build to play with. Unlike barb, MoTE are still fav from among all build which reluctantly force us to play and collect fire leap items.
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Not really.

Here's the thing, let me run you down real quick.

2.0.4 mashieldgun and AC + BOP was the end game shit. They can clear whatever shit u shat on them. I was running shotgun and did pretty well as well. Hell I thought that was crusader's salvation then.

2.0.5 nerf to mashieldgun, nerf to AC + BOP (make it totally not viable, over nerf imo). Buff shotgun back to previous damage.

That is like 2 main builds, 1 sub-par to that sub-par become main and that 2 becomes sub-par.

They can't just have a balance between those builds for example, minor nerf to rally and mashieldgun, but buff shotgun, fire, lightning, 30% reduction.

Fire is fun though, something I used to say "Fire is fun on T1/2 but that's that" doesn't work like that anymore. In fact I'm running a fire mashildgun build, when I'm lazy to manage wrath. It's not bad.


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post May 23 2014, 03:26 PM

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Why choose. When you can hotswap?

Harrington is better because of the defensive options that came with it.
Str, Vit, AR, Life% and a proper tile set like battlefields of eternity nets you a constant 1xx% dmg increase yet able to survive difficult mob types.

Swap TWH when RG spawns.

If you met a tileset that has almost no clickables, then use TWH. Simple isn't it?


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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ May 24 2014, 04:12 AM)
best wh i seen is with

str, vit, attack speed, and chc.
For a shotgun build, it's possible you can try roll out as for life% or attack speed, though i wouldn't dare do that unless i had a spare, in case i wanted to go falcon shield blessing build.
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Only retards will roll ias out of TWH. If I need defensive, I go harrington's. Tile set is the deciding factor, not the build.

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