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 [OFFICIAL]Rig Suggestion Q&A Thread V5!

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SUSTheHitman47
post Mar 23 2014, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Mar 22 2014, 11:17 PM)
LOL!
In LYP?I've no idea.You can ask the people who have went there before,i haven't.. sweat.gif
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where u buy your stuff from minecrafter?.
mykchin8
post Mar 23 2014, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(kdr31 @ Mar 23 2014, 11:05 PM)
i'm not sure. the difference are the mobo and case. it could be higher, it could be cheaper. i think the cheapest mitx case is CM elite 120. im not sure the price tho. i dont usually look at the price.
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Generally, for the same level of performance, the smaller form factor build will be slightly more expensive, due to the motherboard, and casing. For example, an iTX motherboard will generally be more expensive than an equivalent mATX motherboard, and nice iTX cases are slightly more expensive than mATX cases as well. Also, the iTX build will normally be more difficult to cool, and this will need more careful selection of components to maintain the same level of performance and/or reliability.

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post Mar 23 2014, 11:54 PM

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how to change to YCbCr444?

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post Mar 23 2014, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(mykchin8 @ Mar 23 2014, 11:27 PM)
Generally, for the same level of performance, the smaller form factor build will be slightly more expensive, due to the motherboard, and casing.  For example, an iTX motherboard will generally be more expensive than an equivalent mATX motherboard, and nice iTX cases are slightly more expensive than mATX cases as well.  Also, the iTX build will normally be more difficult to cool, and this will need more careful selection of components to maintain the same level of performance and/or reliability.
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I know. from what i see, most of the mitx build is pricier than matx build. it also offer less expandability than matx and atx board. small system doesn't mean small budget
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post Mar 24 2014, 06:49 AM

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QUOTE(Cable707 @ Mar 23 2014, 08:28 PM)
Here's some good PSU :

FSP Hexa 500W PSU RM149
Gigabyte Powerock 500W RM170
Antec Strictly VP-550P RM199
FSP Raider 550W/650W RM225/259
Seasonic S12 II 620W RM299
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The above all is non modular PSU right ?

if I wan choose a modular or semi modular PSU power supply also around 550w - 650w which one should I choose ?

Do you guys take the 80 plus platnium, gold, silver, bronze into consideration?

Btw all pro stfu use fully modular/modular/semi-modular/non mudular PSU?

Sorry keep asking question but I am new to building these kinda gigs
Zgames
post Mar 24 2014, 07:22 AM

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QUOTE(kelv1983 @ Mar 24 2014, 06:49 AM)
The above all is non modular PSU right ?

if I wan choose a modular or semi modular PSU power supply also around 550w - 650w which one should I choose ?

Do you guys take the 80 plus platnium, gold, silver, bronze into consideration?

Btw all pro stfu use fully modular/modular/semi-modular/non mudular PSU?

Sorry keep asking question but I am new to building these kinda gigs
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Semi Modular and Full Modular are expensive imo. Just stick with the normal Non Modular PSU. To me Full Modular or Semi Modular only to increase the airflow of your casing and space saving in ITX build and also easier psu removal. But there is a disadvantages in those as well such as the cable if failure to one of the cable can cause damage to the psu. 80+ Efficiency is dependable. To me bronze is enough actually. Unless you're doing an AMD Build with 4xTitan might want to get a 1000w 80+ Gold biggrin.gif

Read here > https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2620035

It got more explanation. And lastly if you're new to these kinda gigs just go with a non modular PSU, easier to handle cause you don't need to know what cable goes where and you put the wrong cable yada yada etc etc~
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post Mar 24 2014, 08:26 AM

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QUOTE(Zgames @ Mar 24 2014, 07:22 AM)
Semi Modular and Full Modular are expensive imo. Just stick with the normal Non Modular PSU. To me Full Modular or Semi Modular only to increase the airflow of your casing and space saving in ITX build and also easier psu removal. But there is a disadvantages in those as well such as the cable if failure to one of the cable can cause damage to the psu. 80+ Efficiency is dependable. To me bronze is enough actually. Unless you're doing an AMD Build with 4xTitan might want to get a 1000w 80+ Gold biggrin.gif

Read here > https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2620035

It got more explanation. And lastly if you're new to these kinda gigs just go with a non modular PSU, easier to handle cause you don't need to know what cable goes where and you put the wrong cable yada yada etc etc~
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Thanks for the explanation
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post Mar 24 2014, 08:40 AM

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[Budget]
RM2500-3000
[Purpose]
Dota 2
Movie
[Hardwares that will be re-use]
cooler master 550w
[Monitor resolution]
suggest..not including in budget
[Games & softwares that use frequently]
dota 2
torrent
[Personal preferences]
best for buck..atlease dont need to upgrade for 2 years
dont do OC and quite system
[Location]
KL
tq

This post has been edited by elanessar: Mar 24 2014, 08:43 AM
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post Mar 24 2014, 08:51 AM

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QUOTE(TheHitman47 @ Mar 23 2014, 11:26 PM)
where u buy your stuff from minecrafter?.
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I haven't bought my rig yet,supposed to get it at the end of this month,but due to Family matter,gonna get it in May or June instead. wink.gif


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post Mar 24 2014, 08:56 AM

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QUOTE(aeonsakura @ Mar 23 2014, 11:54 PM)
how to change to YCbCr444?
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Go to the Nvidia Control Panel, then under "Display", look for "Adjust desktop color settings", then look for "Digital color format", and select "YCbCr444".

If your drivers do not have this setting, then there are three possibilities I know of:

1. You do not have the correct monitor driver installed, or
2. Your display does not support the YCbCR444 mode, or
3. You are not connected using HDMI between graphics card and the display

All the later versions of Nvidia graphics card support the YCbCr444 format, unless your Nvidia card is from more than 5 years ago.
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post Mar 24 2014, 09:02 AM

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QUOTE(elanessar @ Mar 24 2014, 08:40 AM)
[Budget]
RM2500-3000
[Purpose]
Dota 2
Movie
[Hardwares that will be re-use]
cooler master 550w
[Monitor resolution]
suggest..not including in budget
[Games & softwares that use frequently]
dota 2
torrent
[Personal preferences]
best for buck..atlease dont need to upgrade for 2 years
dont do OC and quite system
[Location]
KL
tq
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Proc - i5-4440 RM 579
Mobo - Asrock B85M Pro 4 RM 279
GPU - Gainward GTX 760 RM 799
PSU - Seasonic S12 II 620 RM 299
HD - WD Blue 1TB RM 189
RAM - 8 GB RAM Value RAM RM 239
Casing - Bitfenix Shadow RM 229
Monitor - ??? out of my specialty.

Without monitor RM 2,613
All prices are from Viewnet. Except GPU and Casing from Idealtech.
Edit Forgot your Monitor doh.gif

This post has been edited by Zgames: Mar 24 2014, 09:07 AM
elanessar
post Mar 24 2014, 09:18 AM

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QUOTE(Zgames @ Mar 24 2014, 09:02 AM)
Proc - i5-4440 RM 579
Mobo - Asrock B85M Pro 4 RM 279
GPU - Gainward GTX 760 RM 799
PSU - Seasonic S12 II 620 RM 299
HD - WD Blue 1TB RM 189
RAM - 8 GB RAM Value RAM RM 239
Casing - Bitfenix Shadow RM 229
Monitor - ??? out of my specialty.

Without monitor RM 2,613
All prices are from Viewnet. Except GPU and Casing from Idealtech.
Edit Forgot your Monitor doh.gif
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so my psu cm 550w not advice to reuse?
if i opt for i5 4670k will it be a waste?
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post Mar 24 2014, 09:19 AM

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Hi, I'm planning to build a cpu for my parents use for video streaming and some simple office work.
I have some old stuff but not sure which to use back. I would like to have some recommendation on this. My budget is as low as possible since it's for some simple work biggrin.gif

Processor :AMD Phenom II X720 BE / Intel e7400 core 2 duo
Mobo: MA770T-UD3P
GC : -
RAM : -
CASING: Thermaltake Commander ms-i
hdd : -
PSU : -
ROM: -


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QUOTE(kelv1983 @ Mar 24 2014, 06:49 AM)
The above all is non modular PSU right ?

if I wan choose a modular or semi modular PSU power supply also around 550w - 650w which one should I choose ?

Do you guys take the 80 plus platnium, gold, silver, bronze into consideration?

Btw all pro stfu use fully modular/modular/semi-modular/non mudular PSU?

Sorry keep asking question but I am new to building these kinda gigs
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kelv1983, here are my inputs to your questions:

1. If you stick with Seasonic brand, you would be in good shape. Buy a good Seasonic PSU, and you will be able to re-use it again, and again

2. Yes, I do take into account the 80+ ratings. Not because of efficiency alone (it doesn't make too much of a difference in terms of power consumption between silver and gold, for example, unless you are running your PC full load 24/7), but because:
- Circuit design and components of silver, gold, and platinum PSUs have much better performance as well as quality.
- Gold and Platinum PSUs normally are quieter because they run cooler, and do not have to use the fan as much.
- Platinum is overkill, as it costs to much in my opinion for the difference between gold and platinum.

3. Yes, I use and prefer to recommend only semi-modular, or modular PSUs. This is because:
- Semi-modular and modular PSUs are of the higher grade PSUs from a certain manufacturer, example, it is hard to find non-modular gold or platinum PSU
- Semi-modular and modular PSUs allow you to use only the cables you need, so cable management is easier, and air flow is better, especially if you want to build a smaller PC in the future and re-use the PSU

In summary, a Seasonic gold modular PSU is one the better investments to make, especially if you use your rig for gaming. I have been using gold Seasonic PSUs since the first X-series came out.

However, in the end, when you have narrowed down the PSU selection to what you would like to get, search around the internet for the electrical and noise measurements, and hopefully an understanding of the PSU circuit design, and confirm that the PSU is good, before buying.

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post Mar 24 2014, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(elanessar @ Mar 24 2014, 09:18 AM)
so my psu cm 550w not advice to reuse?
if i opt for i5 4670k will it be a waste?
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You're not in oc-ing right? The 4670k is a waste if you're not OC-ing. CM 550w what series? The 1st line of GX not that good. The seasonic that I recommended has more juice and enough to get your system going.
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QUOTE(Zgames @ Mar 24 2014, 09:24 AM)
You're not in oc-ing right? The 4670k is a waste if you're not OC-ing. CM 550w what series? The 1st line of GX not that good. The seasonic that I recommended has more juice and enough to get your system going.
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hehe..sorry it's been 7 years didnt build any rig..thanks mate for ur recommendation
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QUOTE(elanessar @ Mar 24 2014, 09:30 AM)
hehe..sorry it's been 7 years didnt build any rig..thanks mate for ur recommendation
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Aye, it's ok lad biggrin.gif
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post Mar 24 2014, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(Zgames @ Mar 24 2014, 09:38 AM)
Aye, it's ok lad biggrin.gif
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if using 4670 mobo need to change?
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QUOTE(elanessar @ Mar 24 2014, 09:51 AM)
if using 4670 mobo need to change?
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No need they both use the LGA 1150 socket. IMO i5-4440 is enough already. If you're hardcore in game why not invest more into gpu. Most games don't use up to 2 cores. Till recently big games like BF4 with big open world utilize more core afaik hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Zgames @ Mar 24 2014, 10:11 AM)
No need they both use the LGA 1150 socket. IMO i5-4440 is enough already. If you're hardcore in game why not invest more into gpu. Most games don't use up to 2 cores. Till recently big games like BF4 with big open world utilize more core afaik hmm.gif
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understood...any recommendation on cpu or proc cooling?n FSP raider 650w is ok?

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