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 Proton Savvy LYN Club V5, The survival skills

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post Mar 23 2014, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Mar 12 2014, 10:28 PM)
7:20am, reach Jalan Ipoh Bt4, waiting for nestum open shop at 9am, had a flat tyres 6:45am. No choice
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My Sime Astar 100 had done marvelous job, clocked atleast 30000km on my hand. Being hardcore punished, long journey, rough riding in construction site, eating nails many times, also travelling at totally flat this morning.
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It's May 2011 tyres, I have no idea how far previous owner travelled with these tyres, but as at September 2012, it left about 60% thread, and now its running below the thread marker. Bye Astar.
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So, I was recommended with these new babies
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Funny thread
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The moment I got in the car, start the engine, ready to reverse out. As soon as I release my clutch pedal, engine stall. These tyres has so much of grip, it bite the floor so eagerly to the extend I can feel the car need extra power to move forward. Have stalled my engine 5 times in total in 1 day from standstill to movement. Despite having such slim width at 165, it bites the road much harder than my 185 tyres. I know it's improper to compare an old AD01 old technology tyres, but indeed the price for this cheap and cheerful performance tyre yield much better grip then previously I've used 195/50R14 Yoko Advan AD01. Along the way, the beginning 30~50kms I'm trying to adjust myself to the new rubbers. The noise level is as crappy as my old Astar, road noise kinda loud. The noise resonating inside the cabin as if I'm riding in a faulty bearing army truck. Tyre pressure set at 260lb(hot temperature in the afternoon). It's much bumpier than my HiFly HF201.

After some distance of travel, surprisingly the road noise gone. I no longer hearing sand/stones hitting my mudguard anymore. Road feedback become extremely realistic. I can feel every single detail feedback from the tyre via my steering wheel. The heavy feeling still intact, but I kinda got used to it. I find these tyres need faster speed to perform better. On an average of 80kph travelling speed, steering feedback is kinda numb as it almost feedback every single thing on the ground, probably ran over an ant also can be felt. However, above 100kph road noise will be automatically reduced to minimal, as close to not hearing at all! For the 1st time I heard my exhaust pipe humming in the car. From Selayang to Rawang, I've been maintaining between 120 ~140kph along the stretch of high speed curves, notice the tyre side walls are very rigid. There aren't too much extra radial movement cause by reshaping of the tyre wall, other than physically suspension movement.

I parked the car, went meet client, my palms are sweating and my heart is pumping, eagerly wanted to hold on my steering wheel again. I know it's not a proper racing tyres. I've driven slicks, they're different and 1 wouldn't wanted to have slick tyre on a street car. I can't express the kinda joy I'm having right now. Even now I'm typing this paragraph, I can still feel the grip, the confidence, and the insane feedback from the steering wheel. Call it placebo, but I love that feeling. What left for me to worry now is the wet traction. As soon as the dry season pass, I will be giving my wet test review. I believe, reliability will take time/distance to tell. So, that part will be later. As soon as I finishes the tyre, I'll be giving another review again.
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davidke20, do share how's the tread life of the Achilles ATR K-Sport. I am also running them with 165/50-R15 but only on special occasions and not as daily driver.
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post Apr 7 2014, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Apr 4 2014, 04:53 PM)
FLX spring, RM49.50/pc in Plotong. Esoba, got alot geh, compatible with younger brother BLM/FLX
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davidke20, do you have any experience using the flx spring? the flx spring is going to be 50~80% stiffer that the standard savvy spring. I'm using a BLM rear spring only and it has 11mm wire diameter compared to 10mm and sits about 1cm higher
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post Apr 7 2014, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Apr 7 2014, 09:51 PM)
My GaGa BLM is using the FLX spling, hence the BLM spling goes into my Shawie. Frankly, I think I rike the softer spling coz ayam not so marj into lowering/harsh ride person. Handling wise, I have 3MAX Anti Roll Bar at the back from Mahihi, 16mm is sufficient for my kind of appetite. Front currently running on ATR K-Sport from nestum, rear running on HiFly HF201, FC is freaking awesome running on average 15km/litre. Dry grip is like heaven! Cut konar like slice a water melon. However, trade off is wet grip rike shiete. Can't drive more than 80kph on rainny days, or the car will GLIDE yawn.gif

Basically the car planted on the ground, very little bodyroll. Both rear wheels remain all time upright, hence tyre to surface contact improved a lot. Plobrem is, as and when tyre traction all used up, the car will spiral into irrecoverable spin. Had that twice while testing my cornering limit. doh.gif No more testing whistling.gif
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i also have a set of atr k-sports but only run during track/special events. i refuse to run anti roll bars because it's too twitchy for me in the rainy weather. that's just a personal preference and nothing against 3max or anti roll bars cause I have had good experiences with 3max and anti roll bars in the past.

i'll have to tear my brake system apart again to troubleshoot due to spongy and poor brake feel again. i think it's the master cylinder or proportioning valve acting up.

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post Apr 7 2014, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Apr 7 2014, 10:35 PM)
Twitchy at the back is because of the way we drive I'd say. I know it because every car before I upgrade from stock or install anti roll bar will have no trouble and quite safe, until the post upgrade event, I tend to spun atleast once each car cause I don't know my limit until I hit the limit whistling.gif Sometimes I had it twice doh.gif After I stopped testing for limit, no more twitching anymore laugh.gif But it's ok, as you said it's personal preference. So, what's your preference regarding the springs and abs set? I have not plan for anything other than stock or swaps from other made/model. For such a light weight car, I really don't want to have more bump steer/roll steer, considering the ATR K Sport is much thinner tyres and running on soft springs.

My next move, probably gonna inject 75W90 LSD oil into the front abs hmm.gif May not consider to change spring at all though, considering my daily ride has many uneven terrain hmm.gif
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agreed with you on everything. i'm holding back from anything major right now as the car is my daily driver today. i'm planning to convert the car to a rally car cause i work in construction line and often travel to rural areas.

hotbits has always been in my mindset as it's affordable and proves itself to be one of the better valving response. but of course, we'll probably either need to work really close with their r&d or test a few setups before settling down as for rough road terrains, driver's confidence is everything.
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post May 14 2014, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ May 14 2014, 11:21 PM)
Actually, I was about to curse Mahihi jor. Indeed, old cars like Shawie shouldn't plonk ARB geh mad.gif Mahgai ever since I had that piece of metal under my carriage, tyre edge started to go round. Then front suspension start to have sound, now become loosen. The worst nightmare, trailing arm bushing also start to make noise ady. Even my daughter sits at the back, when going through bump also can hear the arm hitting the mounting ady doh.gif

Am now looking for rubber master. I'm not sure whether I understand NOX correctly, as I wanted to replace bushing, not adding a stopper.
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hahahahaha, price to pay for more oversteering in the rear tongue.gif i think david means is he wants solid pu bushing on the rear torsion beam mounting, near where the fuel tank sits.

sell me the rear arb for cheap cheap brows.gif

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post May 15 2014, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ May 15 2014, 05:50 AM)
brows.gif and haokam jiu understand me so well brows.gif jiu wang cheap ar? Can. I sell 500 icon_idea.gif Mahihi, poison time whistling.gif
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i'll make you the pu bushings if you offer me a good price smile.gif

or u can buy/gather a few orders for a cheaper overall price. more than glad to lathe the first one out for you myself rclxms.gif
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post May 15 2014, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ May 15 2014, 09:51 PM)
Name me a price for minimal costing and minimum order quantity. I'm going to put this up as the hottest cake ever around PL1BT2 and PL1BT3 platform! brows.gif
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Ok, i'll find out the material price and ID/ODs of bushing. nod.gif

Mind you, fyi the original bushing is only RM20 a piece.
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post May 25 2014, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(MiloIce3in1 @ May 24 2014, 02:45 AM)
dedua tayar ke satu aje?

i just found out my left side front tyre not centre. before, i used 175/55/15, it doesnt appear too much. after changed it to 175/65/14, can see the tyre is a bit too closer to the wall/body.

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sure something that hold it dah bengkok.. adeehh.. tak tau lagi berapa kos kerugian harus ditanggung,mungkin kah front lower arm? apa kah itu?(gugel sat..)
ok.. kompom.. ni la kot yg dah jahanam..

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agaknye la... need sifu to confirmkan.
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davidke20, that no looks like savvy control arm

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post Jun 17 2014, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(NOX @ Jun 14 2014, 06:42 AM)
what belt can use till 100k bro?

better change at 80k la.. those guarantee for a mere rm350 belt doesnt sound reasonable to me..

you drive 80k, you let the engine running without drive how long? so to be exact, something 80k drive, 20k let it running idle..

my car previous owner change at 100k.. i change it at 60k.. better rm350 then rm2000.. for a mere 3 year, rm350 is not much..

*your case can be lesson to others.

davidke20 yesterday i went to nestum place to change shoe for my other car.. wow.. such a nice guy.. planning to go again for sawie shoes pulak.. might grab 165/65/14 archilles to try or yoko blue..
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NOX boss, which shop got sell you 165/65R14 achilles? which model too? i'm in desperate need for new tyres cry.gif
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post Jul 2 2014, 06:12 PM

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davidke20 NOX What does the Kirolsan Chip do? Throttle map?
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post Jul 3 2014, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jul 2 2014, 10:01 PM)
No it doesn't. However, it kacau the intake volume reading from the maps, so your ECU thought angin kencang, cipat kasi more petrol whistling.gif More or less like this. It's not so simple by adding capacity, I believe inside on some simple calculation module that will alter the reading ACCORDING to intake volume so your car doesn't spray asap hitam too much or consume too much petrol on a daily basis unless u go WOT.

As for toto lispons... u guys plis wait don't go spend money on rubbish toto kontoler kinda idiotic crap whistling.gif I ngam² finished tuning my GaGa, now time to migrate to Shawie to start some home work whistling.gif Tentatively, no time to do yet. But yesterday just resigned, now waiting for boss to give me big letter to stay home do nothing, so later I'll have plenty of time to explore icon_idea.gif
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oh ok thanks. may want to explore more or know more about it. anybody from Kirolsan can feel free to market / poison me! brows.gif
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post Jul 5 2014, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(NOX @ Jul 3 2014, 10:45 PM)
come join tomorrow tt. u might get a chance to feel the chip inside my car.
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cannot join titties because want try oversteer and see how difficult to diy timing belt.
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post Jul 8 2014, 05:16 PM

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david, how do you measure speaker size? hmm.gif

i've completely gutted the interior my car so i can measure for you quickly. free four savvy speakers if you want them too rclxms.gif
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post Jul 8 2014, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(NOX @ Jul 7 2014, 03:15 PM)
the key is STAR key. susah oo.
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ini seribu dalih. tapi memang lebih susah dari kereta jepun biasa.
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post Jul 12 2014, 12:02 AM

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davidke20 Please get these out of my hands. It's been rotting under the shade. Still works when I took them out.

I stay in Kota Kemuning and willing to take a teh tarik for it. I'm either always working or outstation working so pm me if you want it.
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post Jul 26 2014, 09:41 PM

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Sifus, has anyone adjusted the OEM headlamp height and side-to-side? It lacks an adjuster knob from my experience in Hondas.

I find Savvy's headlamp too high and wide that it's annoying others on the road. When I turn on my high-beam, it shines the moon instead of the road.
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post Jul 31 2014, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jul 31 2014, 07:29 AM)
Have updated preferred workshop listing on 1st page. Kindly drop by, have a look and contribute more information to further detail it, so we can have easy reference in future.
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Nais, I just noticed you using the 5 blade 13" JRD proton liimmss rclxm9.gif
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post Aug 2 2014, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Aug 1 2014, 09:36 AM)
Korek! Took from Plotong wigra 1.6 1st Gen 1994 edition. 1 of the bestest strength rim ever produced by JRD. Extremely lasak, oni plobrem is the bugger looked fugly to the Max! Btw, in Penang now weren't able to collect the speakers from u yet. Probably next week.
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I actually wanted to run the same setup as you rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
Your tyre size on your Savvy is 175/70R13?
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post Aug 23 2014, 01:50 PM

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Fresh rubber for you sirs?
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Aug 23 2014, 02:33 PM)
drool.gif Why? U wan sponsor niu tayar for me ar drool.gif
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