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 Sony XPERIA™ Z1, Official Thread V7, 4.4.4 Rolling out for Xperia Z1!!!

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post Apr 1 2014, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(y_owez @ Apr 1 2014, 09:16 AM)
but i find xperia's camera is just disappointing?somehow it's just not as focus/sharp as what Im used to and the reason why I got the phone is for the camera. I;ve turned of the soft skin and most of the time i use manual touch focus. but I couldn't be shaking that badly every single time. and image stabiliser is on and most photos are static such as food.
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Because of low shutter speed. You need to discover the best settings for the camera. Don't expect oh I pick this mode, then it will do. It requires some amount of exposure triangle knowledge.

For example, Firework mode will let the shutter speed to go 1 second to create light trail. Night portrait mode allows the shutter speed to be as slow as 1/5 seconds to keep the ISO low. Low shutter speed is prone to cause handshake. Auto mode extends the ISO range to 6400 in order to get higher shutter speed and thus handshake is reduced. Or eventually, set to Manual mode without any scene. Then you can manually tune down the ISO to keep the image low noise with the increment of chance of picture getting shake. Sony didn't overly denoise the image (which is pretty much found in other phones like iphone during low light). Aggressive denoise will cause lost in details and watercolour effect. So Sony left some headroom for post-processing - either you like the current state or denoise it by yourself.

For the focus/sharp issue, there is a limitation on the minimum focus range, bu Z1 is quite close in term of that. Did you set the resolution to 8MP? 8MP will give you an illusion of the image is "sharp". Any picture sample on that? Therefore, just trial and error. You can find pretty much discussions on such matter via Google. icon_rolleyes.gif

This post has been edited by kingkingyyk: Apr 1 2014, 09:41 AM
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post Apr 1 2014, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(Gemc666 @ Apr 1 2014, 07:16 AM)
the earpiece sound is a bug, some people said it fixed after a factory reset, others say that they flash the TFT, and some others say a repair in sony PCC will fix it, try those methods (being the easy one the factory reset)
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yeah... all sort of suggestion to fix it is flying around. but not a single solution that will work for everyone.
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post Apr 1 2014, 09:45 AM

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phone crashes alot after 4.4 update....
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post Apr 1 2014, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(y_owez @ Apr 1 2014, 09:16 AM)
Hi all,

I swap from Iphone 5 to xperia z1 recently.
android 4.3

but i find xperia's camera is just disappointing?somehow it's just not as focus/sharp as what Im used to and the reason why I got the phone is for the camera. I;ve turned of the soft skin and most of the time i use manual touch focus. but I couldn't be shaking that badly every single time. and image stabiliser is on and most photos are static such as food.

and the front camera is just terrible. lots of noise?

any solution to this guys/gals? thankS!
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z1 camera is really quite different from all other camera phone out there. you'll need to play around with the settings in order to get the best pic.

i'm no pro in photograohy, but here's what i set in my camera settings for your reference:
1) do not use superior auto mode. u'll get better pic using manual mode but u may set all settings in auto (ISO, white balance,...)
2) i use 8mp because of the over sampling. i found that it's sharper than the full 20mp pic and the file size is still manageable. use 20mp unless u need the extra mp to crop the pic
3) never use image stabiliser. the pic will be damn grainy
4) turn on HDR if u r taking static object or scene with strong backlight

hope this helps
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post Apr 1 2014, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(y_owez @ Apr 1 2014, 09:16 AM)
Hi all,

I swap from Iphone 5 to xperia z1 recently.
android 4.3

but i find xperia's camera is just disappointing?somehow it's just not as focus/sharp as what Im used to and the reason why I got the phone is for the camera. I;ve turned of the soft skin and most of the time i use manual touch focus. but I couldn't be shaking that badly every single time. and image stabiliser is on and most photos are static such as food.

and the front camera is just terrible. lots of noise?

any solution to this guys/gals? thankS!
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any sample to show?
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post Apr 1 2014, 10:28 AM

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Hello everyone, just trying out this phone from note 3. Got it 2nd hand so far pretty satisfied with the phone. The signal on this phone in my work area is always on H+ instead of big fat E or G on the samsung so thats always good. A bit of screen yellow but I dont really mind. Mine is still on android 4.3 and so far no crashes and unbecoming behaviour from this phone, so I am not updating it. I dont use the camera too much so dont have any comments . Looking to geT a decent case for it and I like the element case quite a lot ,anyone got any idea where to get it here or must order online from the site?



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QUOTE(kahyeec @ Apr 1 2014, 10:28 AM)
Hello everyone, just trying out this phone from note 3. Got it 2nd hand so far pretty satisfied with the phone. The signal on this phone in my work area is always on H+ instead of big fat E or G on the samsung so thats always good. A bit of screen yellow but I dont really mind. Mine is still on android 4.3 and so far no crashes and unbecoming behaviour from this phone, so I am not updating it. I dont use the camera too much so dont have any comments . Looking to geT a decent case for it and I like the element case quite a lot ,anyone got any idea where to get it here or must order online from the site?
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yellow screen can be adjusted via the white balance setting. just increase the blue to your likings
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post Apr 1 2014, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(kingkingyyk @ Apr 1 2014, 09:29 AM)
Because of low shutter speed. You need to discover the best settings for the camera. Don't expect oh I pick this mode, then it will do. It requires some amount of exposure triangle knowledge.

For example, Firework mode will let the shutter speed to go 1 second to create light trail. Night portrait mode allows the shutter speed to be as slow as 1/5 seconds to keep the ISO low. Low shutter speed is prone to cause handshake. Auto mode extends the ISO range to 6400 in order to get higher shutter speed and thus handshake is reduced. Or eventually, set to Manual mode without any scene. Then you can manually tune down the ISO to keep the image low noise with the increment of chance of picture getting shake. Sony didn't overly denoise the image (which is pretty much found in other phones like iphone during low light). Aggressive denoise will cause lost in details and watercolour effect.  So Sony left some headroom for post-processing - either you like the current state or denoise it by yourself.

For the focus/sharp issue, there is a limitation on the minimum focus range, bu Z1 is quite close in term of that. Did you set the resolution to 8MP? 8MP will give you an illusion of the image is "sharp". Any picture sample on that? Therefore, just trial and error. You can find pretty much discussions on such matter via Google. icon_rolleyes.gif
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wow thanks for this!! notworthy.gif yes usually i use manual mode but 20mp. i will try out the 8mp with different modes.
but for the front camera? it's very grainy yeh? in low light ?

QUOTE(ckchan @ Apr 1 2014, 09:50 AM)
z1 camera is really quite different from all other camera phone out there. you'll need to play around with the settings in order to get the best pic.

i'm no pro in photograohy, but here's what i set in my camera settings for your reference:
1) do not use superior auto mode. u'll get better pic using manual mode but u may set all settings in auto (ISO, white balance,...)
2) i use 8mp because of the over sampling. i found that it's sharper than the full 20mp pic and the file size is still manageable. use 20mp unless u need the extra mp to crop the pic
3) never use image stabiliser. the pic will be damn grainy
4) turn on HDR if u r taking static object or scene with strong backlight

hope this helps
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thanks! i will try these!!



QUOTE(jloi @ Apr 1 2014, 09:52 AM)
any sample to show?
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I'll do some trial and error with the suggestions above first smile.gif

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You can try the Camera Zoom FX app as well.
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QUOTE(ckchan @ Apr 1 2014, 10:34 AM)
yellow screen can be adjusted via the white balance setting. just increase the blue to your likings
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Yay .thank you ! Already adjusted.

This post has been edited by kahyeec: Apr 1 2014, 02:47 PM
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post Apr 1 2014, 12:27 PM

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kinda weird, last night got update from pc companion,
never bother the version, im just accept bla bla bla.. file quite big
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now my phone back to normal hmm.gif
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post Apr 1 2014, 10:30 PM

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Anyone sent their phone in for warranty? Any issues? How long is the process?
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Hi guys!
its been 4months i own this Z1..
Last week tried to take a shot in swimming pool...(all slots have been checked close appropriately)
Rinse with clean water after taking picture...
Didnt check the phone after that...
At night... tried to snap another picture and found out that there's "wap air" inside the lens and my volume down button is not functioning...

But as of today...volume down button works back...the moist in the lens i tried to heat it under the hot suns and it goes away already... i wanted to send back to the Service Centre to fix this problem...

need advice on anyone in here tried this before??
and how long does it takes to repair?

The shots i took.
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post Apr 2 2014, 01:20 AM

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Crap... After using kk for more than a week. Today finally encounter the sound bug! Ringtone coming out from the earpiece.

I don't remember installing any new app or changing any settings. It just happen today out of sudden.

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post Apr 2 2014, 01:24 AM

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QUOTE(ckchan @ Apr 2 2014, 01:20 AM)
Crap... After using kk for more than a week. Today finally encounter the sound bug! Ringtone coming out from the earpiece.

I don't remember installing any new app or changing any settings. It just happen today out of sudden.
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Mine only vibrate for 2 days already. no sound at all when receive call. I not sure when the problem started because I at oversea and not receive any call while roaming.
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QUOTE(nordingh @ Apr 2 2014, 01:24 AM)
Mine only vibrate for 2 days already. no sound at all when receive call. I not sure when the problem started because I at oversea and not receive any call while roaming.
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Did you check if there's any sound coming from the earpiece?

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one of sony's staff acknowledges this sound bug and said the coming update will fix this issue

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I just got information that this issue will be fixed in the next software update.


http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-Z1-Z1...p/610429/page/2

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wow. a month never check back so many issues.

wanted to post and ask if anyone has any issues with sound recording?
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QUOTE(@r3|4^2 @ Apr 2 2014, 11:48 AM)
oh wah. nice.. tempting to change.. brows.gif
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QUOTE(Street Force @ Apr 1 2014, 11:21 PM)
Hi guys!
its been 4months i own this Z1..
Last week tried to take a shot in swimming pool...(all slots have been checked close appropriately)
Rinse with clean water after taking picture...
Didnt check the phone after that...
At night... tried to snap another picture and found out that there's "wap air" inside the lens and my volume down button is not functioning...

But as of today...volume down button works back...the moist in the lens i tried to heat it under the hot suns and it goes away already... i wanted to send back to the Service Centre to fix this problem...

need advice on anyone in here tried this before??
and how long does it takes to repair?

The shots i took.
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not really a problem, it might be just water slip thru ur flaps.. hold the flaps tightly or maybe find some case that can cover them lor..

mine gets even more worst than ur's previously (u can check back my posts) and after that brought to waterworld whole day.. no leakage at all.. rclxms.gif

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