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post Mar 18 2014, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Mar 18 2014, 02:17 PM)
Last Friday went Genting, frightening thing happen when i reach 1st World Hotel there, that road is down hill with speed bump, so i just hit brake, press clucth and down shift from 3rd to 2nd gear, suddenly i saw the battery indicator blinking and then i loss power steering. f***, the engine stall in N condition. But luckily that time is down huill, so i quickly re-start engine and release clutch and the car go. Short while i reach 2nd speed bump and do the same thing, engine stalled again...and this time no matter how i start the engine just won't alive.

With loss of power steering and brake booster, i steer and brake so hard to stop the car and make a turn into road side empty space. I was hopeless, then i turn OFF everything. After that i restart the car, wuekeeeeeeee for around 40s finally the car came alive. It exactly same condition when i change battery last time.

WTF...i can't brain anything but only can think engine cylinder is overflow by injected fuel during up hill until the spark plug is getting wet. I remember when i go up at the final stage, couple of times i change from 3rd to 2nd gear too slow due to 1st time drive there and underestimate the inclination of the slope. Then maybe the unburn fuel is too much and can't escape from exhaust quickly, hence the spark plug is floaded by fuel and stall my engine.
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Battery voltage?

Flooded the engine? Unlikely, as there is always combustion going on. It will only flood IF you put the car to START, then turn the car off. Do that a few times, the engine will flood, as there is no combustion to burn the excess fuel. As long as your engine is on, its almost impossible for your engine to be flooded with petrol. Remember, 3 items are needed for a combustion, air, fuel and spark.
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post Mar 18 2014, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Mar 18 2014, 02:17 PM)
Last Friday went Genting, frightening thing happen when i reach 1st World Hotel there, that road is down hill with speed bump, so i just hit brake, press clucth and down shift from 3rd to 2nd gear, suddenly i saw the battery indicator blinking and then i loss power steering. f***, the engine stall in N condition. But luckily that time is down huill, so i quickly re-start engine and release clutch and the car go. Short while i reach 2nd speed bump and do the same thing, engine stalled again...and this time no matter how i start the engine just won't alive.

With loss of power steering and brake booster, i steer and brake so hard to stop the car and make a turn into road side empty space. I was hopeless, then i turn OFF everything. After that i restart the car, wuekeeeeeeee for around 40s finally the car came alive. It exactly same condition when i change battery last time.

WTF...i can't brain anything but only can think engine cylinder is overflow by injected fuel during up hill until the spark plug is getting wet. I remember when i go up at the final stage, couple of times i change from 3rd to 2nd gear too slow due to 1st time drive there and underestimate the inclination of the slope. Then maybe the unburn fuel is too much and can't escape from exhaust quickly due to slow engine speed, hence the spark plug is floaded by fuel and stall my engine.
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wah dangerous oh... izzit ur alternator malfunction? since battery indicator lit up?
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post Mar 18 2014, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Mar 18 2014, 02:22 PM)
Battery voltage?

Flooded the engine? Unlikely, as there is always combustion going on. It will only flood IF you put the car to START, then turn the car off. Do that a few times, the engine will flood, as there is no combustion to burn the excess fuel. As long as your engine is on, its almost impossible for your engine to be flooded with petrol. Remember, 3 items are needed for a combustion, air, fuel and spark.
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The battery is new la, just slightly over a year. I have no sign of crank problem since i changed battery last year.

I'm not sure what's the actual problem, imagine up hill the engine speed is slow, you press hard on accelerator on wrong gear, car not going further, but the fuel is keep injected based on your input, so alot of fuel is unburnt (too rich), but it can't escape quickly through the exhaust due to engine speed is slow, so it fload the spark plug lo...The car is stall in N gear with clutch pressing, not because of i engage/release clutch like those newbie.

Or my engine suffer altitude sickness?? laugh.gif

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QUOTE(r3apers @ Mar 18 2014, 02:24 PM)
wah dangerous oh... izzit ur alternator malfunction? since battery indicator lit up?
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Battery indicator will lit up when the engine stalled/engine not started.

I can feel the engine is jerking then stall. That time i still pressing clutch.

Alternator malfunction? No sign of it as i always keep track with it since my VS got voltage indicator on that. Voltage will never <14.2 when engine running.
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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Mar 18 2014, 02:30 PM)
The battery is new la, just slightly over a year. I have no sign of crank problem since i changed battery last year.

I'm not sure what's the actual problem, imagine up hill the engine speed is slow, you press hard on accelerator on wrong gear, car not going further, but the fuel is keep injected based on your input, so alot of fuel is unburnt (too rich), but it can't escape quickly through the exhaust due to engine speed is slow, so it fload the spark plug lo...The car is stall in N gear with clutch pressing, not because of i engage/release clutch like those newbie.

Or my engine suffer altitude sickness?? laugh.gif
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As long as the engine is running, fuel will be burnt. Correct me if I'm wrong, davidke20

But your problem only happened when you are going down hill, kan?
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Mar 18 2014, 02:36 PM)
As long as the engine is running, fuel will be burnt. Correct me if I'm wrong, davidke20

But your problem only happened when you are going down hill, kan?
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Yup, that one is the very 1st down hill after the tough up hill. That's why i guess that shit happen.

From what i know, fuel will unburnt and escape from exhaust (What we called too rich) and then the O2 sensor at the exhaust magnifold will feedback and instruct ECU to reduce fuel injection rate, but it has limited degree of correction.

Since then no problem at all, even i went down from Genting on Sunday.

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post Mar 18 2014, 02:44 PM

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Coolwkc, uncle Lim don't want you to leave...
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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Mar 18 2014, 02:35 PM)
Battery indicator will lit up when the engine stalled/engine not started.

I can feel the engine is jerking then stall. That time i still pressing clutch.

Alternator malfunction? No sign of it as i always keep track with it since my VS got voltage indicator on that. Voltage will never <14.2 when engine running.
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ur problem might be like below~~!! whistling.gif whistling.gif

QUOTE(TitanRev @ Mar 18 2014, 02:44 PM)
Coolwkc, uncle Lim don't want you to leave...
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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Mar 18 2014, 02:44 PM)
Coolwkc, uncle Lim don't want you to leave...
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F...i donate 100 bucks to Uncle Lim... sad.gif

In before perjudian adalah haram di sisi agama Islam...
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Mar 18 2014, 09:18 AM)
this could be my next car. What do you guys think? I do get a bigger boot than what the BLM offers, as well as better interior space to ferry people biggrin.gif
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i don't see it happening with you and an almera.

the equation does not add up.
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QUOTE(r3apers @ Mar 18 2014, 02:45 PM)
ur problem might be like below~~!!  whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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Next time dun want to drive any PROTON go Genting anymore...unexpected shit can always happen in PROTON car... yawn.gif whistling.gif

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Mar 18 2014, 02:48 PM)
Next time dun want to drive any PROTON go Genting anymore...shit can happen in PROTON car... yawn.gif  whistling.gif
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i still havent drive my car up b4...lolx... last went genting is last 2 year with my ex-fish... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Mar 18 2014, 02:46 PM)
F...i donate 100 bucks to Uncle Lim... sad.gif

In before perjudian adalah haram di sisi agama Islam...
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Uncle lim likes to troll with 1st timer to Genting..hahaha

Or

Uncle Lim thinks your donation not enough....hahahaha
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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Mar 18 2014, 02:48 PM)
Next time dun want to drive any PROTON go Genting anymore...unexpected shit can always happen in PROTON car... yawn.gif  whistling.gif
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Hahaha maybe is paranormal things.....maybe you kena EMP like itu Keju disable the jaeger...tongue.gif
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QUOTE(r3apers @ Mar 18 2014, 02:49 PM)
i still havent drive my car up b4...lolx... last went genting is last 2 year with my ex-fish...  laugh.gif
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Before i went Genting, my wife keep asking me my car OK mou...i was so confident to tell her sure no problem ma, i take care very much (Except 2 months never wash), only 4 years+ bla bla bla... flex.gif I only worry the brake pad and clutch, but not expecting shit happen related to engine. doh.gif When i crank the car, she is so scare you know... laugh.gif
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post Mar 18 2014, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Mar 18 2014, 02:46 PM)

In before perjudian adalah haram di sisi agama Islam...
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You muslim meh. inb4 Abdullah coolkwc whistling.gif

QUOTE(coolkwc @ Mar 18 2014, 02:48 PM)
Next time dun want to drive any PROTON go Genting anymore...unexpected shit can always happen in PROTON car... yawn.gif  whistling.gif
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My ex-FLX naik Genting like a bawse whistling.gif My Fiesta naik genting kena potong by Myvi 1.3 cry.gif

Last time I drove my Iswaga up Genting, go up got burnt clutch smell, go down got burnt brake pad smell laugh.gif
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QUOTE(dares @ Mar 18 2014, 02:57 PM)
You muslim meh. inb4 Abdullah coolkwc whistling.gif
My ex-FLX naik Genting like a bawse whistling.gif My Fiesta naik genting kena potong by Myvi 1.3  cry.gif

Last time I drove my Iswaga up Genting, go up got burnt clutch smell, go down got burnt brake pad smell  laugh.gif
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u kereta baru masa itu rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif
btw, is time for you to change car lo...
what is ur new aim?
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QUOTE(nickzkuso @ Mar 18 2014, 02:59 PM)
u kereta baru masa itu  rolleyes.gif  rolleyes.gif
btw, is time for you to change car lo...
what is ur new aim?
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Only if it comes with the camouflage stickers flex.gif

EDIT: holyshit dat A pillar ohmy.gif

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Mar 18 2014, 02:56 PM)
Before i went Genting, my wife keep asking me my car OK mou...i was so confident to tell her sure no problem ma, i take care very much (Except 2 months never wash), only 4 years+ bla bla bla... flex.gif  I only worry the brake pad and clutch, but not expecting shit happen related to engine. doh.gif When i crank the car, she is so scare you know... laugh.gif
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haha, normal for wimmez... even my wife also same.. like the biba always ask can drive wan or not... dont wan any trouble later... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Mar 18 2014, 02:48 PM)
Next time dun want to drive any PROTON go Genting anymore...unexpected shit can always happen in PROTON car... yawn.gif  whistling.gif
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ya no shit, unker lim flipped my car around for a hefty bill laugh.gif

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