Even if it was MPS3, the FWD has a bad torque steer tho with a LSD, it's not a RWD Bimmer and doesnt ride like the comfort of a 118i, no doubt cheaper by a RM15-20K, but higher roadtaz

The few good points of MPS3 over 118i other than price is that it is not afraid to look badass (the wicked hood scoop and oversized spoiler), japanese reliability and low maintenance, and it is 5.6sec car, very very quick...this alone is a value for money performance car and can be well considered, at 170K you get a mtfkr that is nurburgring tuned car with mazda service and warranty is a steal leh...Evo/Subby is 300K new. It's a wildest dream (affordable) performance car

One is more performance oriented with alot more above average comfort and feel like luxury stuff thrown in. Another is a perfectly packaged daily drive with a serious brand name.



This post has been edited by wayfeel: Feb 28 2014, 10:29 AM

MPS has oversized spoiler?





A bit only lah. Not the surfboard ah beng style.

Yes, a daily driver with 4 doors plus a 3 paddle car to boot for those who want it.

M135i Recond 2013 source
A 2012 Boxster would cost very near.

At the price of the BMW 1 Series 118i. I would rather go for the Volvo V40 T5 or pay a bit more and get the Volkswagen Golf GTI.

170hp and doing 7.2sec is really nothing to shout about.

If you are comparing to the E92 coupe, then at that exact same price of the 1 Series 118i, you can get a decent E92 335i which has 300hp.

I can't say with all honesty that the 1 series has a combination of practicality and performance at all especially when the 118i does not have the M-Sport setup. Suspension is soft on that car and at high speeds you will feel it bouncing on the highway. The F30 non M-Sport 320i, 320d, 328i and 335i all face this.

All this talk about RWD is pure bullshit unless you tell me you drive your RWD with traction control turned off all the time and push your car to the edge. Otherwise with traction control on, it doesn't feel very much different from driving a normal FWD car.

At the price can get a nice 2009 Cayman with PDK as well. At least that would be a nice keeper

But the M135i car is a fugly car and it doesn't beat the 1M in terms of looks man. I really wish to own a 1M but the damn car and its low production run costs RM430kRM430k!

Hmm my car is RWD without having traction control and sometimes I do push it. Of course nobody drives like crazy all the time every single day lor, coz it's public roads and we still want to live! Just feels nice to have a car where the front won't wash wide when you corner on the gas.

Ya I tot about gti too but solely for the gb concern...I think 190k is an ok for a 118i for peace of mind n stronger branding since the 3s is nearing 300K...n not really fancy volvo. I believe E92 (in 2013) is about 190K recon, some still deem is used unit, 7.2s is by no means blistering fast, but for normal road, it is much more than enough, also considering the NEW gti (220k) is 6.5s and FD2R (200K) about 7s....7.2s is REALLY ok for me since it is no performance car like the gti which was built with fast in mind, unlike the 118i ,it is a wagon so all in all , 190k for a new bimmer with 7s performance, I do call that respectable and a good choice. I believe the M sport is mostly aesthetic cosmetic and ofcourse has performance advantages for the extra 30k? and the sub 7s E92, essentially a recon. and throw in recon, you can have more varied choices


This post has been edited by wayfeel: Mar 1 2014, 12:27 AM

Seem like they are pricing it around the M3 price? thats why so exorbitant. perhaps with the intention of being a sleeper car perhaps....coz it look only a wagon. Fundamentally, it's a niche market compare to sedan. I dont know much about boxster. If I did, I'm sure its difficult to choose as well

Exactly.

I feel that I more n more lazy driving nowadays...I cruise at moderate speed only 100kmph and max 140 and much less aggressive driving of late.
Partly, many friends of friends died lately, road accident...seriously.
I almost met with a serious accident too yesday for speeding...close close shave, an inch and I might not be here oredy...I was reckless....So, drive a fast car also...drive slow slow now...no point. life is not THAT short to me, but fragile and can be unexpectably end, that I really admit...

Pls la, u want to buy 1 series, get the 125i, if not dont buy!

The 1 series is really tiny inside. Plus the seats are very small. Uncomfortable for long journey.

And the interior is crazy cheapo for a car that exp. bmw quality is going down the drain!

Lastly, the looks of this bmw is ugly as hell.

Seriously no feel of better on power steering?

+1

The GTI outperforms even the 125i M-Sport, what more compared to a soft 118i non M-Sport. Performance is not just measured in a 0-100 comparison.

But since you like just look at paper spec sheets, an E92 335i does the century sprint in only 5.0s.

The M-Sport package is A LOT more than just cosmetic. A lot of changes which includes the suspension setup, steering wheel, seats, it is definitely worth the extra RM30k.

In my opinion, the 118i at that price is not the best car you can get. But that is my own personal preference.

Different styles of driving for FWD and RWD, adjust where appropriate lol.

+1

Partly cuz it's a 2013 car . 400k and below M3s are mostly 2011 and older , occasionally 2012 , depending on specs . If u compare it with a 2013 M3 , u can see the difference in pricing .

the 118i is good if you are going for a used unit. Its seriously under demand and its a good car (provided space is not an issue). A new unit i wouldn't bother to look at it though.