Please share your view.....thanks in advance

normal Mazda 3? or Mazda 3 MPS?

190K German luxury B segment Vs 139K Japanese Normal C segment.

How about BMW 320i or KIA K5 which one ?

you should compare between bmw 118i vs golf mk7 vs volvo v40 t4. Mazda 3 not in the league

if you really want me to choose.
i will go for mazda 3 for better price and better looking
the bmw 1 series is more exp and doesnt even look nice.

Mazda 3 is a good car. Decent looks and decent power in the 2.0 SkyActiv.

But it is nowhere near the 118i in terms of performance/handling/luxury. The only thing that could be argued is the exterior design which could be subjective.

Seriously, this is one of the worst comparison ever to pop up in FnF for a long time.

TS, are you trolling here?

The 118i is a great car to drive, rear wheel drive and 0-100 in 7.2 sec...

OMG... compare with Mazda MPS lar.. not vanilla Mazda 3.. 118i is 1.6 Turbo.. vs 2.0 NA..

Turbo+BMW = FAST LUXURY ..

Mazda 3 ?

None coz:
BMW 118i is just too damn ugly to buy, especially at that price. The only good thing about it is RWD.
Mazda 3 hatch is not too bad but also not my cup of tea in terms of styling, maybe if got the sedan version I'll like it better.
If really have to pick one though, just get Mazda 3 coz it's much cheaper and not as ugly.

Beauty is subjective...I kinda like the 1 series look...

Same with Glau
I quite like the 118i look, especially the M 1 series....that one is a hothatch killer...
it faster than a VW Gti in one of the century sprint of hothatches I've watched some months ago....the M1 was the quickest of the bunch...
And the X1 also quite good looking...Well, at first the 1series not pretty but it does grow on you especially when it has the power to boot n the blinding brand image haha

Bmw 1 series is ugly. Better buy A200/A250 or maybe Lexus CT200h if u want Japanese DNA.

How much is 118i anyway? I don't like topic that ask us to compare but dont state price lol

A200/250 is around 180-220K ya
CT200h 180K
I'd prefer the (8sec?) Merz A200 (budget) over Lexus solely on performance alone.

I believe the 118i is quite fast but havent seen the specs.

But naw that u brought it up...A200 vs 118i would be fun & interesting. the sub 7sec
A250 sport is the high end abit depending what is the 118i price

UPDATE #1:
I just checked
118i is 170hp, RM190K, 7.2sec
The A200 is 154hp - RM200K , 8.3sec
A250 205hp - RM240K 6.6sec

I've always fancied the Merz A250...but for 240K and prolly abit too stiff for daily drive...so the bimmer, 70K cheaper yet the 1.8L twin scroll is pretty quick...and likely to be much much forgiving for daily drive...the 118i will certainly appeal more to me . The design is abit exotic that may not suit everyone's taste, as said, it looks exotic...Wondering how much is the more powerful 118i variant? And perhaps M-sport? hehe

UPDATE #2:

The bimmer sport comes only in the 125i variant 2.0L, sport (239K) or Msport (254K) - 218HP doing 6.2sec meaning it's quicker than A250 Sport...Very nice

Conclusion, 190K 118i is good enough for budget, rides in the city/highway much better than A2xx

Forget about the Mazda 3 which is from another planet rofl...My 2005 City can outrun the mazda 3...



This post has been edited by wayfeel: Feb 28 2014, 01:10 AM

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Plus, there's an exciting flagship M135i petrol model, which reaches 0-62mph in just 4.9 seconds when paired with the slick eight-speed automatic gearbox.

All 1 Series models corner without much body roll and show impressive rear-drive agility, while the ride is more comfortable than the equivalent Audi A3 and Mercedes A-Class. No matter which BMW 1 Series you choose, you're guaranteed a comfortable ride and impressive agility, meaning you don't need to opt for the top specification to truly enjoy yourself.

Personally it isn't a fair comparison because of the price point. As others have pointed out, the price different is quite significant.

If you were purely comparing these two cars only, I would definitely choose the BMW 118i over the Mazda. Although I like the Mazda's looks a lot more but the BMW 1 Series does grow on you and changing the bodykit to the M-Sport bodykit and then adding in the additional M-Performance bits, it will look a little bit more bearable.

The price of the M135i here is ridiculous. For what you pay for it, I would rather get a Porsche.

exactly. It is priced very competitively in the UK, but for god knows why it jumped to the ceiling here.
M135i is a great car, but nowhere near the legendary Cayman/Boxster.

I assume the M1 series you mentioned is the M135i. (confusing name, neither a true M, but not an ordinary 1 series )

And of course it is faster, different league altogether (huge price gap as well). Should be compared to the likes of A45 AMG.

the previous 118i design better in my eyes. Oh wai, we can always wait for the next generation/model....but design aside, I didnt expect this 1s bimmer to be so well well-packaged ,packing 170HP doing friggin' 7.2sec is absolutely admirable and only at a fraction of 320i new car price...yet the 0-100 is same, if not better. IINM, my friend 2010/11 E92 Coupe 190/200Hp only 7.6sec(?) Makes it affordable yet totally not compromising on practicality, performance and build quality

Bimmer can look good in hothatch/wagon at some times. I've read in some parts of the world, myb Us or Uk, the bimmer wagon/hothatch is very desirable...
And mudah price has dropped to even sub 80K.

So is it true as the reviews says the 1s maintenance is as cheap as maintaining a VW Golf? (not gti) and how much is maintaining a VW Golf anyway? lol

Here M135i how much? Net rarely have M135i price
but Porsche/Cayman how much? 500-1M? but its simply a different segment/class car but the 135i is simply slapped with a M in front and suddenly the century sprint is -2.2second Rofl....

Ya definitely not the 'ordinary' 1s thats why its so good...1series is a brilliant cover-up, it treasds almost to a M3 supercar territory!!...damn rodent rage the road ...but it always goes back to pricing in which I've no idea because most of us is not rich



This post has been edited by wayfeel: Feb 28 2014, 10:13 AM

still not sure if TS meant the MPS or normal version.

Even if it was MPS3, the FWD has a bad torque steer tho with a LSD, it's not a RWD Bimmer and doesnt ride like the comfort of a 118i, no doubt cheaper by a RM15-20K, but higher roadtaz

The few good points of MPS3 over 118i other than price is that it is not afraid to look badass (the wicked hood scoop and oversized spoiler), japanese reliability and low maintenance, and it is 5.6sec car, very very quick...this alone is a value for money performance car and can be well considered, at 170K you get a mtfkr that is nurburgring tuned car with mazda service and warranty is a steal leh...Evo/Subby is 300K new. It's a wildest dream (affordable) performance car

One is more performance oriented with alot more above average comfort and feel like luxury stuff thrown in. Another is a perfectly packaged daily drive with a serious brand name.



This post has been edited by wayfeel: Feb 28 2014, 10:29 AM

MPS has oversized spoiler?





A bit only lah. Not the surfboard ah beng style.

Yes, a daily driver with 4 doors plus a 3 paddle car to boot for those who want it.

M135i Recond 2013 source
A 2012 Boxster would cost very near.

At the price of the BMW 1 Series 118i. I would rather go for the Volvo V40 T5 or pay a bit more and get the Volkswagen Golf GTI.

170hp and doing 7.2sec is really nothing to shout about.

If you are comparing to the E92 coupe, then at that exact same price of the 1 Series 118i, you can get a decent E92 335i which has 300hp.

I can't say with all honesty that the 1 series has a combination of practicality and performance at all especially when the 118i does not have the M-Sport setup. Suspension is soft on that car and at high speeds you will feel it bouncing on the highway. The F30 non M-Sport 320i, 320d, 328i and 335i all face this.

All this talk about RWD is pure bullshit unless you tell me you drive your RWD with traction control turned off all the time and push your car to the edge. Otherwise with traction control on, it doesn't feel very much different from driving a normal FWD car.

At the price can get a nice 2009 Cayman with PDK as well. At least that would be a nice keeper

But the M135i car is a fugly car and it doesn't beat the 1M in terms of looks man. I really wish to own a 1M but the damn car and its low production run costs RM430kRM430k!

Hmm my car is RWD without having traction control and sometimes I do push it. Of course nobody drives like crazy all the time every single day lor, coz it's public roads and we still want to live! Just feels nice to have a car where the front won't wash wide when you corner on the gas.

Ya I tot about gti too but solely for the gb concern...I think 190k is an ok for a 118i for peace of mind n stronger branding since the 3s is nearing 300K...n not really fancy volvo. I believe E92 (in 2013) is about 190K recon, some still deem is used unit, 7.2s is by no means blistering fast, but for normal road, it is much more than enough, also considering the NEW gti (220k) is 6.5s and FD2R (200K) about 7s....7.2s is REALLY ok for me since it is no performance car like the gti which was built with fast in mind, unlike the 118i ,it is a wagon so all in all , 190k for a new bimmer with 7s performance, I do call that respectable and a good choice. I believe the M sport is mostly aesthetic cosmetic and ofcourse has performance advantages for the extra 30k? and the sub 7s E92, essentially a recon. and throw in recon, you can have more varied choices


This post has been edited by wayfeel: Mar 1 2014, 12:27 AM

Seem like they are pricing it around the M3 price? thats why so exorbitant. perhaps with the intention of being a sleeper car perhaps....coz it look only a wagon. Fundamentally, it's a niche market compare to sedan. I dont know much about boxster. If I did, I'm sure its difficult to choose as well

Exactly.

I feel that I more n more lazy driving nowadays...I cruise at moderate speed only 100kmph and max 140 and much less aggressive driving of late.
Partly, many friends of friends died lately, road accident...seriously.
I almost met with a serious accident too yesday for speeding...close close shave, an inch and I might not be here oredy...I was reckless....So, drive a fast car also...drive slow slow now...no point. life is not THAT short to me, but fragile and can be unexpectably end, that I really admit...

Pls la, u want to buy 1 series, get the 125i, if not dont buy!

The 1 series is really tiny inside. Plus the seats are very small. Uncomfortable for long journey.

And the interior is crazy cheapo for a car that exp. bmw quality is going down the drain!

Lastly, the looks of this bmw is ugly as hell.

Seriously no feel of better on power steering?

+1

The GTI outperforms even the 125i M-Sport, what more compared to a soft 118i non M-Sport. Performance is not just measured in a 0-100 comparison.

But since you like just look at paper spec sheets, an E92 335i does the century sprint in only 5.0s.

The M-Sport package is A LOT more than just cosmetic. A lot of changes which includes the suspension setup, steering wheel, seats, it is definitely worth the extra RM30k.

In my opinion, the 118i at that price is not the best car you can get. But that is my own personal preference.

Different styles of driving for FWD and RWD, adjust where appropriate lol.

+1

Partly cuz it's a 2013 car . 400k and below M3s are mostly 2011 and older , occasionally 2012 , depending on specs . If u compare it with a 2013 M3 , u can see the difference in pricing .

the 118i is good if you are going for a used unit. Its seriously under demand and its a good car (provided space is not an issue). A new unit i wouldn't bother to look at it though.