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 v9.0 The OFFICIAL 3G/5G Honda City 2011 thread, The new City, where to next?

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post Mar 10 2021, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(cempedaklife @ Mar 10 2021, 04:29 PM)
if I were to do it, I better get the parts myself from genuine part dealers.
usually outside aircon service workshop only provide OEM.
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Depends on aircond foreman..

Mine normally will have OEM and original (normally Denso / Sanden etc).

He will ask which you prefer to use and he will use it. Of course, original parts are more expensive.
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post Mar 29 2021, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(cempedaklife @ Mar 29 2021, 05:21 PM)
so I googled and went to a nearby aircon specialist that looks professional.
feel good as when I drive over at 3pm even though its getting hot, the aircon was very cool (cooler than usual but maybe whole morning raining).

asked to service and don't feel much issue except when its 12pm noon and aircon wont feel as strong.
the main foreman say "ok..but we usually do a round of check first coz if got issue, servicing it don't really solve any issues".

i was okay with it.
so they did check and based on the machine. they are able to to recover only 26x (not sure what unit of measurement) of gas. foreman said from spec our city should have 480.
that is like almost half gas gone  shakehead.gif

he gave me two options.
rm300 to service (that's including replacing the dryer receiver, thanks Thrust for educating me  laugh.gif )
or
rm100, replace with new gas up to 480 after they have recovered the old gas, and add UV dye to check where is the leak.

decided to go for rm100.

he said from checks cant really know if there is leak or from where. and for our model, usually its the cooling coil but he cant confirm unless to do the UV dye.
i did ask the price of cooling coil replacement he said its about rm1.8k all ori parts plus labor, plus the services.

let's see how it goes for now. but 26x out of 480 recovered really a bit shocking.

from record, I last replaced the magnetic clutch 2 years ago on April.
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Actually, your remaining gas of around 260 grams (I assume it's in gram) is slightly low but not severely low. The below refrigerant specification for TMO / Fit are in between 370g - 420g actually).

According to Scotty Kilmer, he said it is normal when there's slight leakage of refrigerant throughout the years as there will be some small amount of gas sippage from the compressor as they are not 100% sealed.

As long as you don't lose all the gas within a month or 2, it is perfectly normal.

I previously changed my cooling coil. It doen't cost RM1.8k to change it.. I opt for the APM cooling coil which cost RM500.. If original Denso, it will cost around RM700. Miscellaneous charges was RM200 (replace gas and aircond oil and also the expansion valve so in total, my cooling coil replacement cost around RM700+.

Air Conditioning
Refrigerant type HFC-134a (R-134a)
Charge quantity 13.1-14.8 oz
(370-420 g)
Lubricant type SP-10
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post Mar 29 2021, 06:16 PM

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QUOTE(cempedaklife @ Mar 29 2021, 06:10 PM)
always good to hear from you!
yeah. some online review said this shop is expensive but many was giving good review too. it didn't plan to do anything major there. just asking for a reference.
the reason why I choose this shop is coz they have proper machine to extract gas, and more up to date tools.

i am now thinking to get a UV torchlight to check closely if there is any leakage.
lets see how. like you said over time it may reduce and the car is 9 years already.

if i have to topup gas every 2 years. its not that bad as a "fix".
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I believe your aircond is working fine.. Don't waste money to troubleshoot already. Normally, if cooling coil is leaking, you will smell a weird odour inside the cabin when you first start your car. The odour is like plasticky smell which is actually the aircond gas. If no smell means your cooling coil is fine.

After you top up your gas, any improvement in cooling performance? My car aircond is not so cold in hot afternoon too. :-(
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post Mar 30 2021, 04:31 AM

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QUOTE(babygrand123 @ Mar 29 2021, 11:40 PM)
Hi TMO Members , i have a question here our gearbox got any gear filter ???? Please advice & thanks
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You can replace the atf filter which is located underneath the airfilter housing.

The filter inside the gearbox cannot be change unless you drop the gearbox and dismantle it for rebuilt.
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post Mar 30 2021, 07:45 AM

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QUOTE(cempedaklife @ Mar 30 2021, 07:12 AM)
Yesterday was not a good test day as i fixed at about 4pm and it was raining the whole morning. Lets see the next few days.

Having said that, when the dial is on 1, don't feel much diff. But when i put on 2, can feel alot diff. Much cooler.
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Ya.. the City aircond blower dial 1 don't blow out a lot of air.. you need to use dial 2 or 3 at least to feel the aircond.

I suppose the blower motor is a bit weak since the car is old already.
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post Apr 1 2021, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(cempedaklife @ Mar 31 2021, 07:41 AM)
To those who followed me on my previous gearbox issue. Guess what.

I went to jyunsei honda genuine stockist to purchase atf oil and the packaging i received looks the same where a shopee seller said is fake and the same packagin that i bought which has issue. Lol.

Since its jyunsei, though i bought from them for the first time, im going to trust them.

Btw, they are selling engine oil filter for rm25. Quite pricey. I thought its around rm15?
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Original Honda oil filter cost around that price (~RM25).

Those selling around RM15 are fake grade A filter.
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post Apr 3 2021, 08:32 AM

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QUOTE(cempedaklife @ Apr 3 2021, 07:57 AM)
Well. My rm5 free shipping uv light from shopee arrived yesterday.

Im no expect but i checked the engine bay. Trace the line as much as possible and check the engine bay in general, the only thing reflecting back light is the white clips that they use to tied cables all around the bay.

This is after 4 days after the topup gas and uv dye. So far, good news.

I did think if my light is okay and try it on money notes but unfortunately the last time i play with uv light on notes may have been 20 years ago with the older notd design.

I was expecting to see a very visible governor figure with uv light but apparently not. But i do see the monetary value and some lines after i shine the uv light. Maybe notes design different nowadays. Make me realize nowadays no cashier or shop bothered with uv lights anymore nowadays.
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To be honest, I don't think your AC has any leakage since the pomen can still extract gas out from the AC system.

Normally when there's a leak, the gas will be emptied even before you know it and the compressor with stop working due to low refrigerant.

Just enjoy the car and repair only when it stops to work. biggrin.gif
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post Apr 11 2021, 08:38 AM

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QUOTE(CP88 @ Apr 10 2021, 02:55 PM)
Hello sifu,

Do you guys drain your coolant or just top up on to it?

Thanks.
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My practice is to top up with distilled water when the reservoir tank is low.

I will drain the coolant once every 3 - 4 years since coolant will eventually lose its effectiveness in preventing rust due to heat cycles. Drain and refill coolant only takes about 3 and a half bottle of Honda Type 2 coolant which cost around RM25 a bottle.

So far my coolant is still blueish and not a single rust in the radiator.

However, I think my top radiator fiber casing is going to KO soon.. Got yellowish colour already which shows sign of wear from the heat cycles.
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post Apr 20 2021, 07:45 PM

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QUOTE(coo|dude @ Apr 20 2021, 12:31 PM)
anyone replaces the rubber seal part of the window areas? What are the cost?
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Are you referring to the door outer moulding?

I've changed the rear 2 door moulding before. Using Honda original but I don't recommend using the original moulding.. It's expensive at around RM120 a piece.

Suggest you to get the OEM one as below that comes in a set of 4.

https://shopee.com.my/619-%E2%96%B2HONDA-CI...6950.9028732768
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post Apr 20 2021, 10:01 PM

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QUOTE(coo|dude @ Apr 20 2021, 08:32 PM)
Is it easy to replace?
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Yes. Quite easy. I believe youtube has videos on how to replace door moulding for honda.
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post Apr 21 2021, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(90Boyz @ Apr 21 2021, 05:41 PM)
what's your mileage on the ATF when changing ?
mine close to 20k soon will replacing it together with normal engine oil change .
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Good practice is to replace the ATF every 20k kilometer.
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post Apr 22 2021, 07:25 AM

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QUOTE(90Boyz @ Apr 21 2021, 06:03 PM)
Mine bought from Shopee but not Honda ATF
im using fully synth ATF from Penrite, so no issue just only wish to change it due to near 20k mileage
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I think Penrite ATF should be ok since they said it has also the same compatibility as ATF-Z1.


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post Apr 22 2021, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(90Boyz @ Apr 22 2021, 10:34 AM)
The one i use is about Rm200 for 4L  blink.gif
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TMO gearbox requires only 2.8 litres of ATF fluid.

Normally pomen will just pour in 3 bottles which is equivalent to 3 litres.
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post Apr 22 2021, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(babygrand123 @ Apr 22 2021, 12:34 PM)
My TMO gear oil change always done in Honda SC but the weird thing is the services advisor never ask me to change gear filter b4 ???

Wondering why since 2013 till now ???
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TMO actually have 2 ATF filters. One is located internally inside the gearbox. this one cannot be replaced unless you drop and dismantle the gearbox.

The 2nd ATF filter is an external filter located underneath the airbox. This filter can be easily replace. However, SC doesn't replace them because it was not part of Honda's schedule maintenance.
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post Apr 22 2021, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(babygrand123 @ Apr 22 2021, 01:49 PM)
Oh but how come ah ? Honda want us to replace gearbox after 200K ? purposely ??? doh.gif
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I have no idea.. Probably Honda's design on their 4& 5 speeder gearbox are like that. These gearboxes do not have oil sump. It came in 1 solid piece.

I know their CVT gearbox, you can replace the internal filter because there is an oil sump. Remove the oil sump and you can access the filter.

Rest assured on the TMO gearbox reliability. It is much more reliable that their CVT counterpart. I've seen TMO gearboxes lasted more than 500k kilometer and is still running.

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post Apr 22 2021, 06:52 PM

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QUOTE(pikafaded @ Apr 22 2021, 06:37 PM)
Hi, I want to ask whether it will be harmful to the car engine if I replace the engine oil once in 10 months? Because I could not drive up to 10,000 km within 6 months. Thanks
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No problem.. I practice that also.. I usually clocked in around 5,000 km to 6,000km every 10 months.

Normally, people will say to change every once a year if you can't get 10,000km but replacing it every 10 months is more on the prudent and safe side.

SC recommendation to replace every 6 months is overkill in my opinion.
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post Apr 22 2021, 07:14 PM

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QUOTE(pikafaded @ Apr 22 2021, 06:54 PM)
So, if I don't drive much. Engine oil replacement every 10 months and ATF replacement once a year is still fine right?
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Yes.. No issue..

Your oil replacement interval is even better than me..

I replace my engine oil every 10 months but ATF, I will stick to mileage @ 20,000km for replacement regardless of time interval. This is because, there aren't any combustion byproduct inside the ATF thus contaminant is very minimal and less toxic as compared to engine oil.
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post Apr 22 2021, 09:10 PM

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QUOTE(cempedaklife @ Apr 22 2021, 09:01 PM)
Btw what engine oil and where you all get it from?
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syntium 3000 5W30.. Always buy from Paulhew Shopee online.
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post Apr 22 2021, 09:37 PM

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QUOTE(cempedaklife @ Apr 22 2021, 09:22 PM)
Currently on 5w30 shell helix hx8 from giant. But it is SL spec instead of SN. This is my last bottle in my inventory.

Previously one 5w30 molygen liqui moly from paul hew as well.
Seems he is trustable then. Next I'll get back from him perhaps.

Previous previous one also hx8 but change earlier.

Most of the time prior to this was still on honda oil.
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SL specification is really old.. it is even older than the SM specification which is the SM grade is also quite sacre now.

Better use back SN grade oil lor.
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post Apr 28 2021, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(pikafaded @ Apr 28 2021, 01:24 PM)
Anyone knows if there is any Honda workshop with good workmanship and reasonable price? Location: around Bandar Sunway. Thanks
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You are looking to perform what sort of service?

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