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post Feb 9 2014, 12:53 PM, updated 12y ago

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Full name Liverpool Football Club
Nickname(s) The Reds
Founded 15 March 1892; 121 years ago
Ground Anfield
Capacity 45,522
Owner Fenway Sports Group
Principal Owner John W.Henry
Chairman Tom Werner
MD Ian Ayre
Manager Brendan Rodgers


Club Staffs :

Directors : John W. Henry, Tom Werner, Ian Ayre, David Ginsberg, Philip Nash, Michael Gordon
Club Secretary : Ian Silvester
Operations Director : Andrew Parkinson
Chief Groundsman : Terry Forsyth
Stadium Manager : Ged Poynton
Director of Communications: Susan Black
Chief Media Officer : Matthew Baxter
Head of Recruitment : Dave Fallows
Head of Analysis : Michael Edwards
Chief Scout : Barry Hunter

Coaching and Medical Staff
Manager : Brendan Rodgers
Assistant Manager : Colin Pascoe
First Team Coach : Mike Marsh
Goalkeeping Coach : John Achterberg
Performance Analyst : Glen Driscoll
Fitness and Conditioning Analyst : Ryland Morgans
Opposition Analyst : Chris Davies
Director of Player Development/Academy Manager : vacant
Head of Academy Coaching : vacant
U21's Manager : Alex Inglethorpe
First Team Doctor : Zaf Iqbal
Physiotherapist : Chris Morgan

Team of 2013/14

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Fixture for 2013/14
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post Feb 9 2014, 12:57 PM

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working on it bro...
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post Feb 9 2014, 12:57 PM

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Alright bro. In Para We Trust! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(hfi @ Feb 9 2014, 12:55 PM)
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post Feb 9 2014, 01:00 PM

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ye... hah.... new thread... now with thumbnail....
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got it done. thanks for the patience

and what a wonderful weekend
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Anyone has the clip of Suarez crashing his shot against the post last night?
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post Feb 9 2014, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(hfi @ Feb 9 2014, 12:31 PM)
Cissokho .. cult hero in the making ?
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He is getting better. Although I still think that he still lacks the cut to be first teamer...
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He is getting better. Although I still think that he still lacks the cut to be first teamer...
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Yeah I think we can do better than Cissokho but right now i'm pleased to see him getting the job done.

As for the pic, "Smell my breath" .. "No you smell my breath"
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How to download this to play on my fon as a MP4 clip ?



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sorry dillonyong couldnt create the thread. HAHAHAHA...

btw, I loved how Stevie G scolded Toure and he tried arguing back but in the end gave in and apologized.
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Posting at the first page ever!!! Love seeing the logo is back, feels like home again.
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How to download this to play on my fon as a MP4 clip  ?
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toure is shaky too as with cissokho. especially when on the ball. fingers cross no unwanted mistake will be done.
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QUOTE(ayam001 @ Feb 9 2014, 01:23 PM)
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QUOTE(digilife @ Feb 9 2014, 01:34 PM)
Only the .html file downloaded.
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I am using it downloading now. Finished downloaded and watching it now with my lunch. yam yam.

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Poor Wenger. Not funny to see anyone fall like that, the photographer is a moron for not even helping the guy out.
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Feb 9 2014, 01:10 PM)
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QUOTE(ayam001 @ Feb 9 2014, 01:23 PM)
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QUOTE(yeelong @ Feb 9 2014, 01:34 PM)
I am using it downloading now. Finished downloaded and watching it now with my lunch. yam yam.
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fuh. best giler menang besar against league leader.

untung adzlin shauki go anfield watch
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Liverpool Crowd even cheered when arteta scored the penalty ..ekeke


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Manchester City fan quits club to support Chelsea after draw with Norwich... haha...

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A Manchester City fan has become so frustrated with Manuel Pellegrini’s tactics in recent weeks – he has decided to go and support Chelsea.

City might be the Premier League’s top goalscorers, but they dropped points against Norwich this week, and failed to find the net in a grab 0-0 draw.

And it was all too much for supporter Brett Jackson, who took to Twitter to announce he was ending his support for the Citizens under Pellegrini’s management.

‘Officially a @chelseafc fan after the disgrace of a performance from @MCFC biggrin.gif #COYB,’ he tweeted.

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The supporter was upset with Manuel Pellegrini’s tactics (Picture: Twitter)
The fan had previously spent most of the City match slagging off the team’s performance before deciding to defect clubs.

And to seal the deal, Jackson even posted up a snap of him trying on the Chelsea away kit as he gets into the spirit of supporting the Blues.

Madness.

Not sure why, but his face really make me want to punch him lo... tongue.gif
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Manchester City fan quits club to support Chelsea after draw with Norwich... haha...

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A Manchester City fan has become so frustrated with Manuel Pellegrini’s tactics in recent weeks – he has decided to go and support Chelsea.

City might be the Premier League’s top goalscorers, but they dropped points against Norwich this week, and failed to find the net in a grab 0-0 draw.

And it was all too much for supporter Brett Jackson, who took to Twitter to announce he was ending his support for the Citizens under Pellegrini’s management.

‘Officially a @chelseafc fan after the disgrace of a performance from @MCFC biggrin.gif #COYB,’ he tweeted.

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The supporter was upset with Manuel Pellegrini’s tactics (Picture: Twitter)
The fan had previously spent most of the City match slagging off the team’s performance before deciding to defect clubs.

And to seal the deal, Jackson even posted up a snap of him trying on the Chelsea away kit as he gets into the spirit of supporting the Blues.

Madness.

Not sure why, but his face really make me want to punch him lo...  tongue.gif
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What a clown. He is not welcome to support Liverpool if we reach our summit one day. Pfftt..... never gonna be one of us. Thumbs down for Brett!
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i would like to friendly suggest we DONT post or repost about Arsene Wenger falling down.

its not respectful of the man. its just a slip. we all could or would or might fall down also.

thank you biggrin.gif
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i would like to friendly suggest we DONT post or repost about Arsene Wenger falling down.

its not respectful of the man. its just a slip. we all could or would or might fall down also.

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For the first time this season, I can proudly tell my mates that the victory against Arsenal is a great team effort; and not because of the individual brilliance of Suarez or Sturridge. Not sure if BR outwitted Arsene in the tactical battle, but we clearly won the battle in the middle of the park. We played with high tempo from the get go, the hallmark of the great Rafa's team in the past, if this was indeed BR's instruction to the team, then the manager deserve some credits for that.

About the hype on Sterling. No doubt the kid got lots of potential & pace and has been chipping in some important goals for team, but lest not we forget, most of the goals are tap ins and largely engineered by the other players. Not saying tap ins are no good but I have yet to see a goal created purely by his individual brilliance, worthy of such a degree of hype.

Lets dissect the goals scored by him yesterday. (Correct me if Im wrong , this is the first time in a match where Sterling managed to score 2 goals?)

First goal was an instinctive strike, another tap in. Could have let the ball pass and let Sturridge have it but his instincts told him to take the shot. Glad that went in. Sturridge would have tear him up to shreds if he missed out that one.

His second goal was a wee bit lucky; he got a clear shot on goal with only the keeper to beat,but his first attempt was weak and saved. Fortunately the ball rebounded back to his feet and he scored in the second attempt. What I felt he should have done in the first place is lay the ball to the unmarked Sturridge. That would have been the correct call.

Having said that, I hope the kid will continue to improve on skills, keep the scoring streak and make the correct crucial decisions on the field. He can outrun and dribble past defenders but hardly produce anything threatening at the end of his runs.

This is just the impetus we need to charge for top 4 spot and we need to SUSTAIN and BUILD on this form.


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QUOTE(alan_kong84 @ Feb 9 2014, 02:06 PM)
Manchester City fan quits club to support Chelsea after draw with Norwich... haha...

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A Manchester City fan has become so frustrated with Manuel Pellegrini’s tactics in recent weeks – he has decided to go and support Chelsea.

City might be the Premier League’s top goalscorers, but they dropped points against Norwich this week, and failed to find the net in a grab 0-0 draw.

And it was all too much for supporter Brett Jackson, who took to Twitter to announce he was ending his support for the Citizens under Pellegrini’s management.

‘Officially a @chelseafc fan after the disgrace of a performance from @MCFC biggrin.gif #COYB,’ he tweeted.

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The supporter was upset with Manuel Pellegrini’s tactics (Picture: Twitter)
The fan had previously spent most of the City match slagging off the team’s performance before deciding to defect clubs.

And to seal the deal, Jackson even posted up a snap of him trying on the Chelsea away kit as he gets into the spirit of supporting the Blues.

Madness.

Not sure why, but his face really make me want to punch him lo...  tongue.gif
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He looks similar to.....santi cazorla....

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can someone send me the full match link for yesterday game?
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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Feb 9 2014, 01:24 PM)
sorry dillonyong couldnt create the thread. HAHAHAHA...

btw, I loved how Stevie G scolded Toure and he tried arguing back but in the end gave in and apologized.
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I noticed that as well. In the end it just comes to show how much influence Gerrard wields at the club that even a season professional like Kolo Toure takes it in.
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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Feb 9 2014, 02:45 PM)
For the first time this season, I can proudly tell my mates that the victory against Arsenal is a great team effort; and not because of the individual brilliance of Suarez or Sturridge. Not sure if BR outwitted Arsene in the tactical battle, but we clearly won the battle in the middle of the park. We played with high tempo from the get go, the hallmark of the great Rafa's team in the past, if this was indeed BR's instruction to the team, then the manager deserve some credits for that.

About the hype on Sterling. No doubt the kid got lots of potential & pace and has been chipping in some important goals for team, but lest not we forget, most of the goals are tap ins and largely engineered by the other players. Not saying tap ins are no good but I have yet to see a goal created purely by his individual brilliance, worthy of such a degree of hype.

Lets dissect the goals scored by him yesterday. (Correct me if Im wrong , this is the first time in a match where Sterling managed to score 2 goals?)

First goal was an instinctive strike, another tap in. Could have let the ball pass and let Sturridge have it but his instincts told him to take the shot. Glad that went in. Sturridge would have tear him up to shreds if he missed out that one.

His second goal was a wee bit lucky; he got a clear shot on goal with only the keeper to beat,but his first attempt was weak and saved. Fortunately the ball rebounded back to his feet and he scored in the second attempt. What I felt he should have done in the first place is lay the ball to the unmarked Sturridge. That would have been the correct call.

Having said that, I hope the kid will continue to improve on skills, keep the scoring streak and make the correct crucial decisions on the field. He can outrun and dribble past defenders but hardly produce anything threatening at the end of his runs.

This is just the impetus we need to charge for top 4 spot and we need to SUSTAIN and BUILD on this  form.
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Glad you enjoyed that game. A lot of people did not see that coming and neither did I. It slapped me hard but in a good way haha. As for Sterling, yea he's a work in progress. But I have a good feeling about this one - there just so much in his game that you just don't normally expect from someone his age. I know tap ins aren't impressive in nature but i think it's a huge credit to him for being in the right place and at the right time to make those tap ins. You know who used to do that for us without ever being remarkable ? Maxi Rodriguez and to a certain extent Dirk Kuyt. They weren't exceptional players but you can count on them to be at the right place and at the right to score easy tap ins.

But as you said, he's got some way to go before becoming a complete package. And for me that in itself, makes him an exciting and promising prospect.
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One of the commentators made an interesting comment last night. After we had gone 5 up, a section of the Arsenal fans were still singing, prompting the commentator to commend them for their support rather than being travelling critics. I'd dare say our travelling Kop is cut from the same cloth.

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Feb 9 2014, 03:06 PM)
I noticed that as well. In the end it just comes to show how much influence Gerrard wields at the club that even a season professional like Kolo Toure takes it in.
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its good because it shows utmost respect to who's the team captain (especially it being Stevie at the time)
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QUOTE(Burningsunz @ Feb 9 2014, 03:05 PM)
can someone send me the full match link for yesterday game?
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Here's a good stream, I'm just finishing the first half. Excellent play in the first 20 minutes, the way we dismantled Arsenal reminds me of the Madrid match a few years ago:
http://fm.lfc.vn/liverpool-arsenal-full-match-w25/
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Feb 9 2014, 03:06 PM)
I noticed that as well. In the end it just comes to show how much influence Gerrard wields at the club that even a season professional like Kolo Toure takes it in.
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Looking at the incident, I kinda disagree with the captain and agree with Kolo. Kolo was in a very uncomfortable situation and yet G went on and pass back to him. He is obviously haunted by the poor pass that cost us 3 points last week and hence just choose to simply whack the ball away safely.

G should have played the pass forward himself instead of throwing a back pass that was dangerous.
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QUOTE(led_zep_freak @ Feb 9 2014, 03:13 PM)
Here's a good stream, I'm just finishing the first half. Excellent play in the first 20 minutes, the way we dismantled Arsenal reminds me of the Madrid match a few years ago:
http://fm.lfc.vn/liverpool-arsenal-full-match-w25/
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Good read this.

http://www.newindianexpress.com/sport/Just...ce#.UvbgBMsZ7qA

Rodgers still has his critics but look how far we've come under him so far. Criticised for lousy signings this season which only reinforces the fact that he's taken the same squad a step forward at least as other teams had reinforced during the summer transfer window.

Keep it up Brendan.
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Feb 9 2014, 03:14 PM)
Looking at the incident, I kinda disagree with the captain and agree with Kolo. Kolo was in a very uncomfortable situation and yet G went on and pass back to him. He is obviously haunted by the poor pass that cost us 3 points last week and hence just choose to simply whack the ball away safely.

G should have played the pass forward himself instead of throwing a back pass that was dangerous.
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Regardless of who was right and who was wrong, it's nice to see Kolo showing the club captain a lot of respect and getting on with it instead of arguing. The pair exchanged words later on and all was good.
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Feb 9 2014, 03:14 PM)
Looking at the incident, I kinda disagree with the captain and agree with Kolo. Kolo was in a very uncomfortable situation and yet G went on and pass back to him. He is obviously haunted by the poor pass that cost us 3 points last week and hence just choose to simply whack the ball away safely.

G should have played the pass forward himself instead of throwing a back pass that was dangerous.
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Yeah either way Gerrard kinda lost his cool a bit. I know Toure is capable for brainfart but no reason to blow your top and aggravate the situation. Toure is an experienced player, a quick reminder who suffice imo. I think Gerrard was just a little agitated after conceding the penalty.
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download fast...must have together with the drubbing of everton and spurs this season... lol
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Feb 9 2014, 03:20 PM)
Regardless of who was right and who was wrong, it's nice to see Kolo showing the club captain a lot of respect and getting on with it instead of arguing. The pair exchanged words later on and all was good.
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Yup. It was quality act from Kolo to show respect first irregardless of right or wrong. I shudder to think if that was Paolo Di Canio that G shouted at. It would have been "Bik Bak Bik Pak" in the dressing room afterwards. But of course, Paolo always fight first and then rub shoulder again later. tongue.gif

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Yeah either way Gerrard kinda lost his cool a bit. I know Toure is capable for brainfart but no reason to blow your top and aggravate the situation. Toure is an experienced player, a quick reminder who suffice imo. I think Gerrard was just a little agitated after conceding the penalty.
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QUOTE(hfi @ Feb 9 2014, 03:07 PM)
Glad you enjoyed that game. A lot of people did not see that coming and neither did I. It slapped me hard but in a good way haha. As for Sterling, yea he's a work in progress. But I have a good feeling about this one - there just so much in his game that you just don't normally expect from someone his age. I know tap ins aren't impressive in nature but i think it's a huge credit to him for being in the right place and at the right time to make those tap ins. You know who used to do that for us without ever being remarkable ? Maxi Rodriguez and to a certain extent Dirk Kuyt. They weren't exceptional players but you can count on them to be at the right place and at the right to score easy tap ins.

But as you said, he's got some way to go before becoming a complete package. And for me that in itself, makes him an exciting and promising prospect.
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Late in the game, there is another part where Sterling could have passed to Aspas/Hendo who would slot into empty net now that the GK rushed to Sterling... Another poor decision by Sterling...Cant blame him...He was after his hat trick after all. brows.gif
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Late in the game, there is another part where Sterling could have passed to Aspas/Hendo who would slot into empty net now that the GK rushed to Sterling... Another poor decision by Sterling...Cant blame him...He was after his hat trick after all.  brows.gif
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Yeah i remember that.Certainly his decision making in the box has to improve.

People are worried that suarez hasn't scored for a few games now.Actually that isnt an issue at all.In fact it is good because it shows liverpool are not over reliant on him.He did look like he wanted to cry when sturridge blew that chance.Lol
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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Feb 9 2014, 02:45 PM)
For the first time this season, I can proudly tell my mates that the victory against Arsenal is a great team effort; and not because of the individual brilliance of Suarez or Sturridge. Not sure if BR outwitted Arsene in the tactical battle, but we clearly won the battle in the middle of the park. We played with high tempo from the get go, the hallmark of the great Rafa's team in the past, if this was indeed BR's instruction to the team, then the manager deserve some credits for that.

About the hype on Sterling. No doubt the kid got lots of potential & pace and has been chipping in some important goals for team, but lest not we forget, most of the goals are tap ins and largely engineered by the other players. Not saying tap ins are no good but I have yet to see a goal created purely by his individual brilliance, worthy of such a degree of hype.

Lets dissect the goals scored by him yesterday. (Correct me if Im wrong , this is the first time in a match where Sterling managed to score 2 goals?)

First goal was an instinctive strike, another tap in. Could have let the ball pass and let Sturridge have it but his instincts told him to take the shot. Glad that went in. Sturridge would have tear him up to shreds if he missed out that one.

His second goal was a wee bit lucky; he got a clear shot on goal with only the keeper to beat,but his first attempt was weak and saved. Fortunately the ball rebounded back to his feet and he scored in the second attempt. What I felt he should have done in the first place is lay the ball to the unmarked Sturridge. That would have been the correct call.

Having said that, I hope the kid will continue to improve on skills, keep the scoring streak and make the correct crucial decisions on the field. He can outrun and dribble past defenders but hardly produce anything threatening at the end of his runs.

This is just the impetus we need to charge for top 4 spot and we need to SUSTAIN and BUILD on this  form.
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Agreed that but tap ins and predatory instinct is important too....like super pippo..
As for his play and decision making hopefully it will improve as he aged and thru match experience ....
The sheer pace and trickery is making defenders terrified and can't imagine if he up his game some more,... Hope he will cont to develop

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i beg to differ, we all know Sterling has alot to do to his finishing but that 1st goal was a great run. If you watch again he was all clear on the left even before Henderson release the ball to Suarez - I was thinking crap Hendo, wrong choice but credit to Suarez he made it all easy for Sterling taking the keeper out of the equation. Sterling would probably not score had Hendo pick him up first? tongue.gif

Surely the most enjoyable first 20 minutes of football i've watched since....a long time against the league leader. Arsenal have no clue what hit them and they are already out within 20 minutes.

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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Feb 9 2014, 02:45 PM)
For the first time this season, I can proudly tell my mates that the victory against Arsenal is a great team effort; and not because of the individual brilliance of Suarez or Sturridge. Not sure if BR outwitted Arsene in the tactical battle, but we clearly won the battle in the middle of the park. We played with high tempo from the get go, the hallmark of the great Rafa's team in the past, if this was indeed BR's instruction to the team, then the manager deserve some credits for that.

About the hype on Sterling. No doubt the kid got lots of potential & pace and has been chipping in some important goals for team, but lest not we forget, most of the goals are tap ins and largely engineered by the other players. Not saying tap ins are no good but I have yet to see a goal created purely by his individual brilliance, worthy of such a degree of hype.

Lets dissect the goals scored by him yesterday. (Correct me if Im wrong , this is the first time in a match where Sterling managed to score 2 goals?)

First goal was an instinctive strike, another tap in. Could have let the ball pass and let Sturridge have it but his instincts told him to take the shot. Glad that went in. Sturridge would have tear him up to shreds if he missed out that one.

His second goal was a wee bit lucky; he got a clear shot on goal with only the keeper to beat,but his first attempt was weak and saved. Fortunately the ball rebounded back to his feet and he scored in the second attempt. What I felt he should have done in the first place is lay the ball to the unmarked Sturridge. That would have been the correct call.

Having said that, I hope the kid will continue to improve on skills, keep the scoring streak and make the correct crucial decisions on the field. He can outrun and dribble past defenders but hardly produce anything threatening at the end of his runs.

This is just the impetus we need to charge for top 4 spot and we need to SUSTAIN and BUILD on this  form.
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A bit of correction on the first goal.

Sturridge may not able to reach coz the cross went pass him as sterling was on the outside end coming in. If u watch closely the ball would have reach sturrjdge first and I actually expect him to score. Instead credit should be given to sterling as he also dart into the penalty box and make sure there is an end product to Suarez cross. That's what I would expect my attacking wingers to do.

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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Feb 9 2014, 02:45 PM)
About the hype on Sterling. No doubt the kid got lots of potential & pace and has been chipping in some important goals for team, but lest not we forget, most of the goals are tap ins and largely engineered by the other players. Not saying tap ins are no good but I have yet to see a goal created purely by his individual brilliance, worthy of such a degree of hype.

Lets dissect the goals scored by him yesterday. (Correct me if Im wrong , this is the first time in a match where Sterling managed to score 2 goals?)

First goal was an instinctive strike, another tap in. Could have let the ball pass and let Sturridge have it but his instincts told him to take the shot. Glad that went in. Sturridge would have tear him up to shreds if he missed out that one.

His second goal was a wee bit lucky; he got a clear shot on goal with only the keeper to beat,but his first attempt was weak and saved. Fortunately the ball rebounded back to his feet and he scored in the second attempt. What I felt he should have done in the first place is lay the ball to the unmarked Sturridge. That would have been the correct call.

Having said that, I hope the kid will continue to improve on skills, keep the scoring streak and make the correct crucial decisions on the field. He can outrun and dribble past defenders but hardly produce anything threatening at the end of his runs.

This is just the impetus we need to charge for top 4 spot and we need to SUSTAIN and BUILD on this  form.
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He still have a lot to improve regarding his finishing. But in term of beating defenders/his marker... he is up there among the best in EPL. And watching his attempt to score late on the match, that was some scary speed he has accelerating easily pass defender.
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QUOTE(farisq @ Feb 9 2014, 05:42 PM)
He still have a lot to improve regarding his finishing. But in term of beating defenders/his marker... he is up there among the best in EPL. And watching his attempt to score late on the match, that was some scary speed he has accelerating easily pass defender.
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Yeah he has scary speed. Was watching the Chelsea game and salah speed also scary but his finishing was poor. Good thing our sterling got 2 yrs ahead of him and he can only further improve from here.
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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Feb 9 2014, 02:45 PM)
For the first time this season, I can proudly tell my mates that the victory against Arsenal is a great team effort; and not because of the individual brilliance of Suarez or Sturridge. Not sure if BR outwitted Arsene in the tactical battle, but we clearly won the battle in the middle of the park. We played with high tempo from the get go, the hallmark of the great Rafa's team in the past, if this was indeed BR's instruction to the team, then the manager deserve some credits for that.

About the hype on Sterling. No doubt the kid got lots of potential & pace and has been chipping in some important goals for team, but lest not we forget, most of the goals are tap ins and largely engineered by the other players. Not saying tap ins are no good but I have yet to see a goal created purely by his individual brilliance, worthy of such a degree of hype.

Lets dissect the goals scored by him yesterday. (Correct me if Im wrong , this is the first time in a match where Sterling managed to score 2 goals?)

First goal was an instinctive strike, another tap in. Could have let the ball pass and let Sturridge have it but his instincts told him to take the shot. Glad that went in. Sturridge would have tear him up to shreds if he missed out that one.

His second goal was a wee bit lucky; he got a clear shot on goal with only the keeper to beat,but his first attempt was weak and saved. Fortunately the ball rebounded back to his feet and he scored in the second attempt. What I felt he should have done in the first place is lay the ball to the unmarked Sturridge. That would have been the correct call.

Having said that, I hope the kid will continue to improve on skills, keep the scoring streak and make the correct crucial decisions on the field. He can outrun and dribble past defenders but hardly produce anything threatening at the end of his runs.

This is just the impetus we need to charge for top 4 spot and we need to SUSTAIN and BUILD on this  form.
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If players are making tap in, it means the team is performing good.
I wouldn't worry with players making tap in every match.

Team should always score through simple shooting/tap in, not rely on screaming goal, or rely on nutmeg 3-4 players then only score.
Because it is hard to do so and as well as consistently doing it, and not many players around the world can do it as well.

If Sterling scored goals by individual brilliance, then he is a world class player that worth at least 40~50million, that Barca/RM may interested in him as well.

His movement to avoid being offside indeed has improved. Stay behind defender, anticipated ball being released, then using pace to run in front of defender.
Good team/player has a lot of this kind of movement, same with Sturridge goal.

Yes, shooting skill still rather need plenty of improvement, as the first attempt of his second goal is rather poor, but credit still given on having a quick reaction on rebound using the left foot (instead of right foot, as many players may turn to the right foot, that with split second, defender, GK can cover ground.

So far, the merit is his pace did terrorise the opponent defender, as well as good in tracking back helping defence at times.
Remember he is just new to EPL, not a established world class players (or yet), can't expect he to do like Suarez, Bale type of shooting/goals.
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Watching the match again, they were showing a stat that we loss 12 points in games where we had the lead (worse in EPL?) if we had only sustain half of them we would be on top.
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Watching the match again, they were showing a stat that we loss 12 points in games where we had the lead (worse in EPL?) if we had only sustain half of them we would be on top.
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Because the team doesn't know how to keep a clean sheet, if this area is improved, then Liv may be good for title contender, which current is not.

I had said many time, Liv is not a title contender, due to
1. inability to keep clean sheet, team on top generally always good at defence.

2. blowing hot and cold from match to match aka consistency of performance still need to improve. You need some straight win across like 7~8 win in 10 matches like that in order to stay in pace on top.
See how fast Liv losing the first spot prior before Christmas when on top, then come to Jan at 4th with large points gap from top, just because losing 2 matches and draw a few.

3. Tactically superiority issue. Many time, the team/manager being outmuscled by better/superiority of opponent manager/team.
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The problem with promising youngsters is injury. Yes they are playing fine, full of energy, bursting pace but once they hit an injury, it's 50 50 from there. They will be told by the doc to slow down to avoid another potential injury. Which is why we see most senior player kinda control their playing style . This is when football IQ plays a major part in their development.
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Can't wait to watch compilation of Coutinho performance. One of the best for me. The third goal by Sturridge is resulted from Coutinho brilliance alone. Starting from intercepting pass from their midfield, which is credit to him coz he has been doing tracking and closing opponent through out the game. Then bringing the ball from deep, looking for movement by Sturridge and then release that perfectly weighted pass.

Players like coutinho need only one or two passes like that to a forward who can finish, and the game is won.
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Anyone has the clip of Suarez crashing his shot against the post last night?
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QUOTE(farisq @ Feb 9 2014, 07:47 PM)
Can't wait to watch compilation of Coutinho performance. One of the best for me. The third goal by Sturridge is resulted from Coutinho brilliance alone. Starting from intercepting pass from their midfield, which is credit to him coz he has been doing tracking and closing opponent through out the game. Then bringing the ball from deep, looking for movement by Sturridge and then release that perfectly weighted pass.

Players like coutinho need only one or two passes like that to a forward who can finish, and the game is won.
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Agreed. Coutinho never gave space to wilshere and was always pressing. MOTM for me.
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And i believe his team mate acknowledge that, look at how Sturridge credit Coutinho during the celebration. Joy to watch such bond between players wub.gif
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QUOTE(e30 @ Feb 9 2014, 08:03 PM)
Agreed. Coutinho never gave space to wilshere and was always pressing. MOTM for me.
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I vote Sterling. He did abit more. His acceleration around the field for 90 mins plus two goals, that's it. The kiddo deserves it. Couts have won some before. Let Raheem enjoy 1. biggrin.gif

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My fellow Kopites. Are you ready to curse Spurs and Everton to a draw? biggrin.gif

I am all up and ready. Let's see if today is gonna be my day again. biggrin.gif
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A draw would be nice for both Spurs and Everton. The mancs will win tonight, Fulham are in relegation form and will collapse at first sign of pressure.
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Come on. You guys want Moyes to be sacked? I want MU to win and Moyes stay in the job! Ah Moy Ah Moy Ah Moy!!! thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Feb 9 2014, 09:06 PM)
My fellow Kopites. Are you ready to curse Spurs and Everton to a draw? biggrin.gif

I am all up and ready. Let's see if today is gonna be my day again. biggrin.gif
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As long as Everton don't win it's ok.

As for Manu, as usual lose forever.
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Come on. You guys want Moyes to be sacked? I want MU to win and Moyes stay in the job! Ah Moy Ah Moy Ah Moy!!! thumbup.gif
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sacked and replaced by? moyes has a 6-yr contract...
if he aims to replicate souness, then he'll be there for at least 2 more seasons...
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sacked and replaced by? moyes has a 6-yr contract...
if he aims to replicate souness, then he'll be there for at least 2 more seasons...
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A draw would be nice for both Spurs and Everton. The mancs will win tonight, Fulham are in relegation form and will collapse at first sign of pressure.
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Those fighting to leave relegation is much more scary than those in mid table..They play every game like their last, if MU can do a good counter attack and make use of the chances and score then they will win, else Fulham is going all out.
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By the way Spurs and Everton is playing now, somebody ought to be badly injured. Tackles flying all over. Rough like rugby. thumbup.gif
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Anyone got a decent stream ?
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Use this
http://www.wiziwig.tv/

It has both, decent and indecent steam! LOL biggrin.gif
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we still have spurs home, so i support any results with everton dropping points. of course, draw will be the best result. mu will win and i hope they win. at least can release some pressure off moyes whistling.gif
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let them lose so that only chelsea fans happy for this week. at least until wednesday.
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Come on Everton? =)
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Injury time Baines freekick equaliser!
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Still okay. biggrin.gif
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Only 1 shot on target and a very important 3 points
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Everton have to go to stamford bridge next week.
I am quite sure they will lose steam.

I am worried about spurs though.They still are in contention despite 0 goal difference lol.
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Yeah Spurs are really good at grinding out results this season. Their away form is interestingly better than their home record and also arguably the best away record in the league right now.

We are only 3 points and 33 goal difference ahead of them! What is this madnesssss?! Will be interesting when they come visit Anfield.
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I prefer Everton to best out Chelsea and get a win.
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it's ok result..

let everton suffer the toothless front without lukaku... 2 or 3 non winning games can knock out 'em from top4 chaser...

m.u look far far away.. if fulham can take a point and it will be a bonus..

spurs may struggle against big side.. vantonghen return has fix their weakness. only hope rite now adebayor to injured
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Feb 9 2014, 11:37 PM)
As long as Moyes dont get sack. Ah Moy!....boom boom... Ah Moy! boom boom.... Ah Moy! biggrin.gif

Draw sounds good. Let me try to curse. tongue.gif
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it's better you tried to curse when Ars vs ManU ..
a draw will be give big psikological impact to both team

for Arsenal : they will become more and more pressure without getting maximum point against top team

for Manu : deluded fan will continue their delusional with "berdiri tegang dibelakang moyes" ethic
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Disgraceful by fulham manager.Fielding a weakened team to do his old team a favour,
Hopefully SAS destroy them by 5 or 6 goals on thursday.
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QUOTE(skeleton202 @ Feb 9 2014, 11:47 PM)
it's better you tried to curse when Ars vs ManU ..
a draw will be give big psikological impact to both team

for Arsenal : they will become more and more pressure without getting maximum point against top team

for Manu : deluded fan will continue their delusional with "berdiri tegang dibelakang moyes" ethic
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I got time to curse today's match only. Next match, no time. Gotta support our team bro biggrin.gif
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Woah, in Old Trafford? A mountain too high I am afraid. Even for my curse tongue.gif

Nevertheless, let's try biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(skeleton202 @ Feb 9 2014, 11:31 PM)
it's ok result..

let everton suffer the toothless front without lukaku... 2 or 3 non winning games can knock out 'em from top4 chaser...

m.u look far far away.. if fulham can take a point and it will be a bonus..

spurs may struggle against big side.. vantonghen return has fix their weakness. only hope rite now adebayor to injured
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Okay. SAF is sitting next to Sir Bobby Charlton. The last time they sat together, it was all headshake and facepalm. tongue.gif

Can the curse happen? LOL biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Rotuham @ Feb 9 2014, 11:50 PM)
Disgraceful by fulham manager.Fielding a weakened team to do his old team a favour,
Hopefully SAS destroy them by 5 or 6 goals on thursday.
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Is this a conspiracy? Resting players against United then fielding a full strength side against us.
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The curse happens biggrin.gif
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70 mins to go
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What a goal Sidwell.... rclxm9.gif
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any streaming

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Wow Kieran Richardson!
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So far a lot of Liverpool old boys are scoring. Here's to Riise and another of his rockets at Old Trafford!!!
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easily 2-0 .. more on sympathy
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Should have been 2 for Fulham biggrin.gif
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Half time now. Damn. I was soooo sleepy before Sidwell scores. Now I can't sleep. Eagerly waiting for the result..
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based on this match.. m.u will likely to score.. a draw is good result
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I am still watching bro. So let's see tongue.gif
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more and more i see de gea plays feel like he's blunder keeper.. just not sure why people keep saying he's solid keeper...

there's no point making a world class save but concede a retard goal
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QUOTE(skeleton202 @ Feb 10 2014, 12:55 AM)
more and more i see de gea plays feel like he's blunder keeper.. just not sure why people keep saying he's solid keeper...

there's no point making a world class save but concede a retard goal
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I wouldn't blame the keeper there when Vidic chose to charge forward for no reason leaving that space open, Evra not coming across to cover for Vidic when Evra was the only defender who can see Sidwell's run and the midfielders not tracking Sidwell's run.

Fun fact: 46 crosses in the 1st half.
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Mr Bent is in! Wooo hoooo!!! biggrin.gif
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Wow. Darren Bent is on.
Just wow. sweat.gif
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holtby, mitroglu, darren bent..

oh mai gawd.. we are gonna raped by fulham this thursday
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LOL, MU thread all raging now tongue.gif Watching the match to support Riise and cant recall MU so many crosses.

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lol.. look like stekelenberg using 90min +50% defend buff
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ok januzaj in. MU 5 FUL 1
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QUOTE(hifzil @ Feb 10 2014, 01:19 AM)
ok januzaj in. MU 5 FUL 1
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Correction

Januzaj 10 (crosses) - Fulham 1 (cross)
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young is very good lah.. most source are coming from him...
why fan said he's average is no brainer.. oh wai
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must be nerve wrecking to watch for fulham fans
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Januzaj looks the only quality player in united.
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LOL finally RVP scored. That phone call seems to be working after all tongue.gif
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like i said... habislah,, manu to top4
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shit. 2 goals. sad.gif
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moyes not even celebrate lol

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now he celebrate lol

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LOL - Manu to reach top 4 in failed crosses tongue.gif
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My curse almost work. Almost. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Feb 10 2014, 01:39 AM)
My curse almost work. Almost. biggrin.gif
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1 person against 60k plus at OT not enough tongue.gif Lasted for a good 80 mins though smile.gif
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I wanted to see some face rub tongue.gif
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if fulham decide to rest their best player on thurs, i got no sympathy for them. they deserved to lose like this
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Feb 10 2014, 01:40 AM)
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LOL don't worry. still got more chance for Amoy to break records

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i have no idea why fulham keep allowing united player play in the box.. if they doing this against us, i can see another 23-0 goal galore this thursday
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WTF ! Fulham coach smiling away at the result. Ini memang makan duit ni.

This is what happened at OT today.

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DARREN BENT!!!! I Love you
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HOLY WELL \! Dillon your wish came through!!!
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WOOT
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QUOTE(terryfu @ Feb 10 2014, 01:52 AM)
HOLY WELL \! Dillon your wish came through!!!
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Now tell me, who is the greatest Bomoh in Lowyat? tongue.gif
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apa salah m.u..

gk blunder save again
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fergie face haha
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did u see Mata's face?
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Hahaha, I did predict MU to score 2 goals tongue.gif
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Oi only a draw! We should be expecting more from the greatest! FOCUS!
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john barnes was smilling devillishly...woot....
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apa ni dillon.,.. ur curse only work for 70min  mad.gif
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Bro, Janji Ditepati thumbup.gif LOL LOL LOL. I really LMAO when Bent scored biggrin.gif
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did u see Mata's face?
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was tabbed here to post "HAHAHAHA" didnt see it lol
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was tabbed here to post "HAHAHAHA" didnt see it lol
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Just imagine a "WTF have I done face" tongue.gif
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o wait did they just played against a side at the bottom of the table at home?

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Bro, Janji Ditepati thumbup.gif LOL LOL LOL. I really LMAO when Bent scored biggrin.gif
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hahaha good one for making my perfect weekend... tomorrow surely can talk about football whole day thumbup.gif
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o wait did they just played against a side at the bottom of the table at home?

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i guess that the best home performance so far? brows.gif
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Wow, at 1.55am and I shouted like a Monkey. GOsh. Hopes nobody will scold me tomorrow biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(hifzil @ Feb 10 2014, 01:59 AM)
i guess that the best home performance so far?  brows.gif
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oo they actually have a league for number of crosses?

we should have one for number of times a team hit the post tongue.gif
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see moyes reaction to carrick goal....like winning CL already... trolololol
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if m.u wanna play crosser, they should buy player like lukaku or benteke.. these will help 'em alot with giving other space..


inb4 ini bukan tered m.u
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QUOTE(bearbear @ Feb 10 2014, 02:02 AM)
oo they actually have a league for number of crosses?

we should have one for number of times a team hit the post tongue.gif
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There is. We are no. 1 in hitting the post. 19 times already (5 times more than the next team).

LOL I just checked MU is the no. 1 crosses per game at average of 29. This will just add it further.

Site : Whoscored.com
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My cursing form is on a roll. Who's next, boys? WHo you want?
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Chelsea, Everton, Man City & arsenal pls.
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MU - AS : I foresee a draw. Whatdya say?
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QUOTE(aiyish @ Feb 10 2014, 02:06 AM)
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I want united to win at emirates now.
I doubt united will consistent enough to get 4th with less and less games to go.
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QUOTE(terryfu @ Feb 10 2014, 02:06 AM)
MU - AS : I foresee a draw. Whatdya say?
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Cant watch that match at all. Liverpool is playing also. biggrin.gif
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Back to Liverpool

According to Whoscored.com, we have the highest average rating (7.18) ahead of MCity and Arsenal

Other no. 1s include :

17 goals from set piece (excluding penalties)
4 penalties scored (tied at no. 1)
6 goals from counterattack (who says we are just a possession based team LOL)
Most tackles per game (at home) - overall we are 2nd behind Crystal palace of all teams LOL
Highest Shots on target per game
Highest dribbles per game (everton is 2nd wow!)

Courtesy of http://www.whoscored.com/Regions/252/Tourn...eague-2013-2014

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GUYS! Quote of the week: (Read)

"They're 1-0 down, against a team that isn't even set up to score." - Gary Neville

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As much as I dislike him as a player, Gary Neville is a great pundit.

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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Feb 10 2014, 02:15 AM)
GUYS! Quote of the week: (Read)

"They're 1-0 down, against a team that isn't even set up to score." - Gary Neville

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LOL.
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81 crosses. Just wow.
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QUOTE(Cloud0890 @ Feb 10 2014, 02:16 AM)
As much as I dislike him as a player, Gary Neville is a great pundit.

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Apparently they just broke the record last set by Liverpool.

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Apparently they just broke the record last set by Liverpool.

and here for the Mata reaction
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Maybe he's thinking that he should have pushed for a Liverpool move LOL.

Moyes doesn't look so sad during interview LOL.
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Maybe he's thinking that he should have pushed for a Liverpool move LOL.

Moyes doesn't look so sad during interview LOL.
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Goodnight my fellow Kopites. Bomoh gotta sleep after butting in to curse MU. So tired now. Exhausted but happy. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(skeleton202 @ Feb 10 2014, 02:26 AM)
NewC vs Spurs...
spurs only 3pts behind us.. shuld kill our chaser faster to avoid pressure
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On contrary, I would like the competitors stay closely to us until the end of last 3 games. It's to pressure up our squad for not losing out any games in order to stay in the Top 4.
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Great stats fact I read somewhere I forgot.. according to our first half result we could have been top of the table with 1pt ahead..

This give Liverpool to look at our second half performance a good look and improve. We needed to kill the game in the second half
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QUOTE(kevafk @ Feb 10 2014, 02:30 AM)
Great stats fact I read somewhere I forgot.. according to our first half result we could have been top of the table with 1pt ahead..

This give Liverpool to look at our second half performance a good look and improve. We needed to kill the game in the second half
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It was. Someone mentioned that here earlier. That was before the Gunners game. Now we are 4 points ahead tongue.gif
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QUOTE(jimbet1337 @ Feb 9 2014, 08:02 PM)
This could have been goal of the season.. the technique is unbelievable
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QUOTE(terryfu @ Feb 10 2014, 02:33 AM)
It was. Someone mentioned that here earlier. That was before the Gunners game. Now we are 4 points ahead tongue.gif
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Now that we know Amoy tactics

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Let's get our tall defenders ready to head them away tongue.gif
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Good morning. What better way to start it with a Priceless Picture (cue Mastercard puns).

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Check out all the funny puns LOL : http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/jokes-fl...s-old-trafford/

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this gif makes me feel sorry for Moyes, you can tell how relieve he was when that goal gave them a 2-1 lead. the pressure must be unbearable.
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Wow. That reaction is priceless.
Its like after getting his fist ever trophy.
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Sportsmail can reveal Sterling’s rise to prominence has coincided with an intricate weight-training regime designed to bolster his slight 5ft 6in frame.

Sterling, who has one England cap, has also banned himself from going out during the three days before a match.

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Wow not sure if this's true. If yes, big credit to Sterling for being discipline and putting effort to improve himself.
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Feb 10 2014, 08:53 AM)
Wow not sure if this's true. If yes, big credit to Sterling for being discipline and putting effort to improve himself.
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And a cross cross there,
Here a cross, there a cross,
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what a game...20 minutes 4 goals.. we gave them a lesson.
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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Feb 10 2014, 08:23 AM)
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this gif makes me feel sorry for Moyes, you can tell how relieve he was when that goal gave them a 2-1 lead. the pressure must be unbearable.
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Yeah I genuinely felt sorry for him when that goal went in. I wasn't expecting it at all

Then again:
1) They were very sloppy at the back. You don't give space and possession away when you're only 1 goal up.
2) They were easy to defend against. They had like 70 to 80 crosses delivered in the match but only one resulted in a goal. Even if Mata, RVP and Rooney, they lack that creativity in the final 3rd. Then again, they did enough to win the game if not for point 1).

At the moment, I'm not too concerned with United's results, Spurs' matters more.
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love the commentary that day.

3-0 "SAS = Skrtel & Sterling"
4-0 "How many do you want?" "were not even lunch time yet" "Sturridge & Suarez, the other bloke still haven't score"
5-0 "start your car now"

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QUOTE(ccseong @ Feb 10 2014, 10:07 AM)
love the commentary that day.

3-0 "SAS = Skrtel & Sterling"
4-0 "How many do you want?" "were not even lunch time yet" "Sturridge & Suarez, the other bloke still haven't score"
5-0 "start your car now"
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There was another at 3 or 4 nil. "Arsenal are still on the bus".
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QUOTE(ccseong @ Feb 10 2014, 10:07 AM)
love the commentary that day.

3-0 "SAS = Skrtel & Sterling"
4-0 "How many do you want?" "were not even lunch time yet" "Sturridge & Suarez, the other bloke still haven't score"
5-0 "start your car now"
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arsene wenger shud just tell his team to pack up and get in the bus in the half time.

at least they just lose 3-0 tongue.gif
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QUOTE(ccseong @ Feb 10 2014, 10:07 AM)
love the commentary that day.

3-0 "SAS = Skrtel & Sterling"
4-0 "How many do you want?" "were not even lunch time yet" "Sturridge & Suarez, the other bloke still haven't score"
5-0 "start your car now"
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I particularly like the bolded one, how many you want.

QUOTE(Duke Red @ Feb 10 2014, 10:12 AM)
There was another at 3 or 4 nil. "Arsenal are still on the bus".
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This is best described what had happened.

So next time, early kick off for home match preferred, let opponent team still on the bus. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(joekruger @ Feb 10 2014, 02:04 AM)
see moyes reaction to carrick goal....like winning CL already... trolololol
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this gif makes me feel sorry for Moyes, you can tell how relieve he was when that goal gave them a 2-1 lead. the pressure must be unbearable.
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When I watch it live yesterday, his reaction really made me laugh so hard, but after a Bent equaliser, I felt sorry for Moyes...

Notice that when RVP scored, he didn't celebrate, I guess he is thinking "phew...at least I didn't lose.".. then when Carrick scored, he went like "TAKE THIS IN YOUR FACE WHOEVER DOUBTED ME! HELL YEAHHH I AM INDEED THE CHOSEN ONE! FU*CCKKK YEAA!" laugh.gif
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Flano, Skrtel, Coutinho and Sterling on team of the week of soccernet.com

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Centre midfield: We could have picked any of Liverpool’s midfielders, but our panel plumped for Philippe Coutinho. In an attacking display of the utmost quality, the Brazilian playmaker executed some of the finest passes seen on this or any other Premier League weekend. His through ball for Daniel Sturridge’s goal was so beautiful I almost wanted to ask it out for a steak. Finding pockets of space all over the pitch, Coutinho was at his probing best, and Arsenal simply had no answer.
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I really hope we can meet Man Utd at Anfield now.. we will trash them more than everton and arsenal....
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QUOTE(Max_07s @ Feb 10 2014, 10:25 AM)
I really hope we can meet Man Utd at Anfield now.. we will trash them more than everton and arsenal....
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seriously? its not shocking to see man utd fan coming out with this type of statement but a fellow kopite? sad.gif
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Brilliant read.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/...-champions.html
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QUOTE(Max_07s @ Feb 10 2014, 10:25 AM)
I really hope we can meet Man Utd at Anfield now.. we will trash them more than everton and arsenal....
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No need. We can do at Old Trafford. We'll show them how to pass the ball on that nice pitch of theirs instead of just crossing.
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QUOTE(wadefak @ Feb 10 2014, 02:33 AM)
seriously? its not shocking to see man utd fan coming out with this type of statement but a fellow kopite? sad.gif
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whats wrong with that? I hope we can get big win just like man city won against them 6-1... but a win 1-0 at OT also enough for me.

but with their condition right now, I really hope can meet them at Anfield..
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Why talk so much cock about a wounded team?

Remember last time when they were top of the table and we are languishing in 7-8 and we still beat them?

It can happen to us too.
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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Feb 10 2014, 02:42 AM)
Why talk so much cock about a wounded team?

Remember last time when they were top of the table and we are languishing in 7-8 and we still beat them?

It can happen to us too.
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yeah it happen. they might transform to super saiyan mode when against us.
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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Feb 10 2014, 10:42 AM)
Why talk so much cock about a wounded team?

Remember last time when they were top of the table and we are languishing in 7-8 and we still beat them?

It can happen to us too.
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Exactly. Why talk so much about them? Or any other team that are behind at the moment for that matter. Right now we're in 4th. Win our games and other results won't matter.
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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Feb 10 2014, 10:42 AM)
Why talk so much cock about a wounded team?

Remember last time when they were top of the table and we are languishing in 7-8 and we still beat them?

It can happen to us too.
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QUOTE(8sg9ft @ Feb 10 2014, 10:49 AM)
Exactly. Why talk so much about them? Or any other team that are behind at the moment for that matter. Right now we're in 4th. Win our games and other results won't matter.
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Because it's too funny not to mention Moyes celebrated like manU won CL when the 2nd goal went in...

I remember when we beat them in the past season when we were 7th or 8th...they said we celebrated our victory like we just won Champion League...

Look now who's talking... Karma bites, I tell you laugh.gif brows.gif
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QUOTE(Max_07s @ Feb 10 2014, 10:38 AM)
whats wrong with that? I hope we can get big win just like man city won against them 6-1... but a win 1-0 at OT also enough for me.

but with their condition right now, I really hope can meet them at Anfield..
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Feb 10 2014, 10:51 AM)
Because it's too funny not to mention Moyes celebrated like manU won CL when the 2nd goal went in...

I remember when we beat them in the past season when we were 7th or 8th...they said we celebrated our victory like we just won Champion League...

Look now who's talking... Karma bites, I tell you  laugh.gif  brows.gif
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but i kesian moyes liao.
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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Feb 10 2014, 10:52 AM)
but i kesian moyes liao.
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I have a soft spot for him (so I hope he dont get sacked brows.gif rolleyes.gif tongue.gif ) but heck, he is the manu manager...
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QUOTE(chenwfng @ Feb 10 2014, 10:51 AM)
Don't gloat and be overconfident like the glory hunters use to. We're better than that.
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In David Moyes, to say that he's under severe pressure is an understatement. Anyone taking the reigns of a team which has garnered his much success under one of the games greatest managers would be having sleepless nights. Moyes inherited a squad that was still reliant on old warhorses like Paul Scholes, Ryan Giggs, and Rio Ferdinand. Didn't help that another season pro in Vidic was crocked. Ultimately, the next generation of players in Cleverly, Fellaini and Phil Jones have not filled their shoes. Could do with a bit of reinforcing. Fitting Fellaini into the squad has been like fitting a square peg into a round hole. It is a transition period and Moyes is on a 6 year contract so I suspect the board will give him at least another season. Some will point to the fact that Moyes inherited a title winning squad but in fact, he also inherited an ageing one.
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Fergie attending every single match is not helping either.
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I also kesian Moyes. SAF's presence at just about every game at OT is not helping one bit. It just cranks up the pressure on Moyes. Lol
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Perhaps we will hear Carragher going

"It is not David Moyes that made them lose their perch, it was SAF when he left" smile.gif

Can't help with the MU bashing. That's what 15 yrs of hurt will do.

That said I'm feeling the same excitement with the current LFC team vs the previous false dawns.

1. During the GH / PT era with Owen, Fowler, SH x2, Stevie G, and the best defense, etc
2. During the RB era with the best midfield in the world, Torres & JC, etc.
3. During the RE era with Fowler, Macca, Redknapp, Ince, etc.

This will be my 4th dawn and my expectations are still tempered. The difference this time I notice is that BR is willing to change and adapt his tactics unlike previous regimes. We have gone from possession-based, to 3-5-2 structure, and now counter-attacking style. RE was too attacking, GH was too defensive and RB was too Stevie to Torres approach (plus 101 rotations). BR to me looks to be the real deal and I can see a few shades of Mourinho in him minus the arrogance.
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lets watch the game again biggrin.gif
http://livefootballvideo.com/fullmatch/eng...pool-vs-arsenal
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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Feb 10 2014, 10:42 AM)
Why talk so much cock about a wounded team?

Remember last time when they were top of the table and we are languishing in 7-8 and we still beat them?

It can happen to us too.
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yeah it happen. they might transform to super saiyan mode when against us.
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QUOTE(8sg9ft @ Feb 10 2014, 10:49 AM)
Exactly. Why talk so much about them? Or any other team that are behind at the moment for that matter. Right now we're in 4th. Win our games and other results won't matter.
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Feb 10 2014, 10:51 AM)
Because it's too funny not to mention Moyes celebrated like manU won CL when the 2nd goal went in...

I remember when we beat them in the past season when we were 7th or 8th...they said we celebrated our victory like we just won Champion League...

Look now who's talking... Karma bites, I tell you  laugh.gif  brows.gif
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QUOTE(chenwfng @ Feb 10 2014, 10:51 AM)
Don't gloat and be overconfident like the glory hunters use to. We're better than that.
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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Feb 10 2014, 10:52 AM)
but i kesian moyes liao.
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guys, they now at middle of the table..so they not come here to taunt us like they did before....wait till they at the top back...they will repeat the same thing again....
let enjoy what we have here... discussing/praising/critics our team... rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(normeck @ Feb 10 2014, 11:32 AM)
guys, they now at middle of the table..so they not come here to taunt us like they did before....wait till they at the top back...they will repeat the same thing again....
let enjoy what we have here... discussing/praising/critics our team...  rclxms.gif
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discussing/praising/critics our team is ok, just don't go over their thread and start trolling.
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QUOTE(jacckl @ Feb 10 2014, 11:39 AM)
discussing/praising/critics our team is ok, just don't go over their thread and start trolling.
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but for now, i can safely say that we'll enjoy our troll-less thread until the next match comes tongue.gif
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QUOTE(lerijiso @ Feb 10 2014, 10:59 AM)
Fergie attending every single match is not helping either.
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Indeed. When Shankly resigned, he would still visit Melwood and players would still call him, "boss", undermining the authority of Bob Paisley. It was a tough call but the board had to tell Shankly to stay away and as much as the great man had done for the club, it was probably the right decision. That still couldn't keep him away though as he was spotted at the Kop End as the team were playing and fans around the stadium started chanting his name. He was quoted as saying it was where he felt he belonged. RIP Shanks. Fergie needs to watch from afar at least for the time being until the transition period is over.

QUOTE(terryfu @ Feb 10 2014, 11:05 AM)
The difference this time I notice is that BR is willing to change and adapt his tactics unlike previous regimes. We have gone from possession-based, to 3-5-2 structure, and now counter-attacking style. RE was too attacking, GH was too defensive and RB was too Stevie to Torres approach (plus 101 rotations). BR to me looks to be the real deal and I can see a few shades of Mourinho in him minus the arrogance.
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You're right to say that Rodgers isn't arrogant but he does exude confidence. I like listening to his interviews because based on how he conducts himself alone, you couldn't tell that he is a relatively inexperienced manager. The great Arthur Ashe was once quoted as saying, "the key to confidence is preparation", and you get a sense that Rodgers is always prepared for any questions that come his way. He's also a pretty witty guy as evident from his jibe at Fergie's comment that Gerrard is not a top, top player. Rodgers, in an interview described Gerrard as being a "top, top, top, top, top player" with a wry smile on his face.

Here are some Brendan Rodgers quotes I like :-

“You train dogs, I like to educate players.”

“I will leave no stone unturned in my quest – and that quest will be relentless.”

“I believe a young player will run through a barbed wire fence for you. An older player looks for a hole in the fence.”

“The problem with being a manager is it’s like trying to build an aircraft while it is flying.”

”We play with 11 men, other teams play with 10 men and a goalkeeper.”

In terms of football tactics, we sometimes need to appreciate that despite being a relatively young manager, Rodgers has been exposed to football all around Europe. Like you've quite rightly pointed out, he has been making adjustments and changes to the squad, formation and tactics when necessary. Converting Gerrard to a deeper role was something I wanted to see happen early in the season because it is a big plus for us to have a good distributor from the back and Lucas is limited in this department. His first game in that position was a disaster but playing in a new role can take a bit of adapting to. Aside from the penalty he gave away against Arsenal he was brilliant.

He has proven to be a good coach in my opinion. Not only is Gerrard looking rejuvenated, the likes of Sterling, Flanagan, Coutinho and Sturridge are flourishing despite struggling early in their careers at some point. Last season he brought the best out of Enrique who suffered a dip in form and Downing. I stood by him when we were struggling last season because I could see the positives he was bringing to the team and I stand by him now (of course it's easier this season). I've never said this even about Rafa Benitez but I do believe Rodgers is the man to steer us towards the holy grail. I don't like talking up managers but I really do have great admiration for the man after initial doubts when he was first unveiled.
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Can't believe Fulham managed a point at OT. I hope the mancs will be just as generous when we visit them. I fully expected them to beat Fulham comfortably - who are dead last on the table. This is the reigning champions and being reduced to just crossing and hoping for the best. Nearly a cross for every minute is a damning statistic.

But at least Moyes has the courtesy to explain this bizarre result.



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Can't believe Fulham managed a point at OT. I hope the mancs will be just as generous when we visit them. I fully expected them to beat Fulham comfortably - who are dead last on the table. This is the reigning champions and being reduced to just crossing and hoping for the best. Nearly a cross for every minute is a damning statistic.

But at least Moyes has the courtesy to explain this bizarre result.

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A short trip down memory lane to Rodger's 1st interview. Let's see if he's lived up to what he had said. Summarised to focus on points I think are key:-

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How excited are you by the owners' plans and visions for the future?
I suppose I first of all want to mention Kenny Dalglish, who is an incredible man. He's obviously the best player in the history of this football club and he's someone who adored Liverpool. He has nursed the club through some horrific times and also brought a lot of joy to the supporters here both as a player and a manager. He is someone I want to pay a great respect to because he's a wonderful ambassador for this football club. But I'm a different tactician, a different man. The owners are very excited and looking forward, and obviously they wanted to bring someone in who could keep with the traditions of Liverpool Football Club, which is to play offensive and attacking football, and also someone to represent the values of the club off the field, and that's something I will defend for my life.

How would you describe your own football philosophy?
The philosophy is very much based on the attacking side of the game. People ask me that question and I always say it's about being offensive and creative, but also with tactical discipline. If you look at the Swansea team in the last couple of years they've been lauded for their offensive approach but defensively we've kept many clean sheets and we're up there with the top defensive records. That's the principles of this club. This is a club that's based on fast, attacking, offensive football. But I'll repeat - it's very important to have tactical discipline within that. Your philosophy and your principles will always be governed by the players. There is a fantastic squad here, some terrific players, but there is no doubt I'll need to make maybe two, three or four additions to try and get that flow - and it will take time to put that in place.

The style you had at Swansea - would you hope to deploy a similar one here at Liverpool or does that depend on the players?
The principles of your game depend on the players but certainly that's a vision that I would hopefully over the next few years (implement). It certainly won't happen in game one because there are different types of players here. But over time, that's the ideology - to play that way. One, it's my belief, and two, it's the belief of the supporters. They enjoy watching it, and that's one of the biggest attractions coming here. Liverpool supporters are very educated in the game. We were here with Swansea earlier in the season and their style of football got a round of applause at the end of the game. That doesn't happen very often at away grounds.

What does Liverpool Football Club mean to you personally?
This is an iconic football club. It's a club that's up there with the world's great. When you talk Liverpool Football Club you're talking Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern Munich, Inter Milan, AC Milan. It's an enormous club. The challenge and the motivation is for me to do the best I possibly can and I will always fight for my life for Liverpool, and that will be on and off the field.

Finally, what would your message to Liverpool supporters be?
I'd just like to say, I'm honoured and blessed to be your manager. All I can promise is I'll fight for my life for the club. My family will move to the area and we're really excited about moving to the city of Liverpool, getting to know the football club and the people of Liverpool. I will leave no stone unturned in my quest - and that quest will be relentless - to try and get Liverpool back on the map again as a successful football club.
Not doing that good defensively. We are joint 6th for best defensive record in the league. 10 away from Chelsea but only 4 away from the 2nd best defensive record in the league so it isn't that bad. We've only scored 5 goals less than City but 16 more than anyone else. This is impressive.

Brendan Rodgers FTW.

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Feb 10 2014, 11:45 AM)
Indeed. When Shankly resigned, he would still visit Melwood and players would still call him, "boss", undermining the authority of Bob Paisley. It was a tough call but the board had to tell Shankly to stay away and as much as the great man had done for the club, it was probably the right decision. That still couldn't keep him away though as he was spotted at the Kop End as the team were playing and fans around the stadium started chanting his name. He was quoted as saying it was where he felt he belonged. RIP Shanks. Fergie needs to watch from afar at least for the time being until the transition period is over.
You're right to say that Rodgers isn't arrogant but he does exude confidence. I like listening to his interviews because based on how he conducts himself alone, you couldn't tell that he is a relatively inexperienced manager. The great Arthur Ashe was once quoted as saying, "the key to confidence is preparation", and you get a sense that Rodgers is always prepared for any questions that come his way. He's also a pretty witty guy as evident from his jibe at Fergie's comment that Gerrard is not a top, top player. Rodgers, in an interview described Gerrard as being a "top, top, top, top, top player" with a wry smile on his face.

Here are some Brendan Rodgers quotes I like :-

“You train dogs, I like to educate players.”

“I will leave no stone unturned in my quest – and that quest will be relentless.”

“I believe a young player will run through a barbed wire fence for you. An older player looks for a hole in the fence.”

“The problem with being a manager is it’s like trying to build an aircraft while it is flying.”

”We play with 11 men, other teams play with 10 men and a goalkeeper.”

In terms of football tactics, we sometimes need to appreciate that despite being a relatively young manager, Rodgers has been exposed to football all around Europe. Like you've quite rightly pointed out, he has been making adjustments and changes to the squad, formation and tactics when necessary. Converting Gerrard to a deeper role was something I wanted to see happen early in the season because it is a big plus for us to have a good distributor from the back and Lucas is limited in this department. His first game in that position was a disaster but playing in a new role can take a bit of adapting to. Aside from the penalty he gave away against Arsenal he was brilliant.

He has proven to be a good coach in my opinion. Not only is Gerrard looking rejuvenated, the likes of Sterling, Flanagan, Coutinho and Sturridge are flourishing despite struggling early in their careers at some point. Last season he brought the best out of Enrique who suffered a dip in form and Downing. I stood by him when we were struggling last season because I could see the positives he was bringing to the team and I stand by him now (of course it's easier this season). I've never said this even about Rafa Benitez but I do believe Rodgers is the man to steer us towards the holy grail. I don't like talking up managers but I really do have great admiration for the man after initial doubts when he was first unveiled.
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You said it perfectly. The fact that he can improve on the careers of the younger players stands out. He even gave Caroll a chance but unfortunately Caroll / Downing / Cole chances to adapt but unfortunately they can adapt too well (plus probably FSG think they're too highly paid to sit on substitutes bench).

I can see he wants to implement his ideas but also should those not work, he will change it on a fly and not be too ego to maintain it (look at halftime vs Villa or even vs Arsenal at Emirates where he still try things if doesnt work out too well).

I for one can wait to see the Reds when more players / resources are available for him to manage. I'm hoping all the goodwill, press, media that is hyping him now will translate into players wanting to work under him. Helps that Mourinho also gave him thumbs up (despite the animosity between Reds & Blues recently though maybe its less now since it was more like Rafa vs Jose), coz if there's one aspect about Jose I grudgingly admire is that his players are steadfastly loyal to him.
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after all, we need to show this display again against lesser team. we are dull against lesser team before. sad.gif

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The fear factor of Anfield fortress is slowly back. Let the visiting team concede defeat even before entering the field. We used to have that.
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Oh man. I am suffering from fatigue now from cursing Everton and MU last night. Gotta catch my sleep early today so that I can wake up to curse Chelsea. tongue.gif

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Frankly the match against Arsenal is not something that I haven't witness b4, like the one against Spurs...or everton...But it is a spectacular collapse in part becos gooners are terribly off form...maybe they expect to win by being on the field with ozil..but as I said before, we are more than a match to them in terms of pace, and it is our pace that tore them into pieces. Their only outlet for pace is actually Ox-Chamberlain, and he is a mere passenger during the match, having been neautralize by the hard work of Sterling and cisoko...Overall a deserve win for a workman-like performance from Redmen...

Manage to catch a glimpse of the match between mu vs Fulham..and I must say, they play nowadays is a shocking cross, cross and cross....I mean there is nothing wrong with it, as its their trademark play, but at times it looks a bit too deliberate, its like pass to the flanks at all cost, for flankers to cross, and they don't even have a target man to begin with...shocking!!


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QUOTE(terryfu @ Feb 10 2014, 11:57 AM)
You said it perfectly. The fact that he can improve on the careers of the younger players stands out. He even gave Caroll a chance but unfortunately Caroll / Downing / Cole chances to adapt but unfortunately they can adapt too well (plus probably FSG think they're too highly paid to sit on substitutes bench).
If anything, players under Rodgers can never complain that they were never given an opportunity. I think we used our whole complement of players last season. Everyone got a chance. Suso for example, was a regular early in the season but was eventually benched after several average performances. Yes, I know people are talking up Suso and he's having a great time in Spain but I have to call it like I see it, and despite being a promising player, I feel he was only average when he was last in the first team.
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Was reading through some stats and according to Uber football facts our Martin Skrtel scored 4 goals from 9 shots!!!! Such wonderful conversion ratio.

FYI, Torres has the same amount of goals from 31 shots tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Feb 10 2014, 11:56 AM)
A short trip down memory lane to Rodger's 1st interview. Let's see if he's lived up to what he had said. Summarised to focus on points I think are key:-
Not doing that good defensively. We are joint 6th for best defensive record in the league. 10 away from Chelsea but only 4 away from the 2nd best defensive record in the league so it isn't that bad. We've only scored 5 goals less than City but 16 more than anyone else. This is impressive.

Brendan Rodgers FTW.
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Anyone watched his post-match interview that day? He was asked whether LFC were a tiny horse, medium horse or a big horse. BR just said "Oh, we're just a foal" biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Feb 10 2014, 12:07 PM)
Oh man. I am suffering from fatigue now from cursing Everton and MU last night. Gotta catch my sleep early today so that I can wake up to curse Chelsea. tongue.gif

Sorry IchiGhost. You are a good mate. But I am the Bomoh for Liverpool's cause. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Feb 10 2014, 11:45 AM)
Indeed. When Shankly resigned, he would still visit Melwood and players would still call him, "boss", undermining the authority of Bob Paisley. It was a tough call but the board had to tell Shankly to stay away and as much as the great man had done for the club, it was probably the right decision. That still couldn't keep him away though as he was spotted at the Kop End as the team were playing and fans around the stadium started chanting his name. He was quoted as saying it was where he felt he belonged. RIP Shanks. Fergie needs to watch from afar at least for the time being until the transition period is over.
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Absolutely spot on. One can only guess how much pressure is Moyes under right now, managing a team like Utd. It doesn't help his cause with Fergie hovering over his shoulder all the time. To add to the fact that most of the current crop of players he has are used to glory under Fergie.

They are exactly in the same spot as us the last few seasons. Yes, it's pitiful for them but remember how they treated us during those times. They never missed any chance to take a jab at us. It's karma I tell you. And for the same reason I won't bother giving sticks at em'. It's funny enough already watching all the glory hunters disappear one by one and their fans having an epic meltdown.

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QUOTE(bitebug @ Feb 10 2014, 01:19 PM)
Absolutely spot on. One can only guess how much pressure is Moyes under right now, managing a team like Utd. It doesn't help his cause with Fergie hovering over his shoulder all the time. To add to the fact that most of the current crop of players he has are used to glory under Fergie.

They are exactly in the same spot as us the last few seasons. Yes, it's pitiful for them but remember how they treated us during those times. They never missed any chance to take a jab at us. It's karma I tell you. And for the same reason I won't bother giving sticks at em'. It's funny enough already watching all the glory hunters disappear one by one and their fans having an epic meltdown.
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btw regarding Duke's earlier link about playing like champions, that's whats missing throughout the everton game. yes we did won it 4-0 but there weren't much talks about the performance unlike our latest triumph.
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QUOTE(bitebug @ Feb 10 2014, 01:19 PM)
Absolutely spot on. One can only guess how much pressure is Moyes under right now, managing a team like Utd. It doesn't help his cause with Fergie hovering over his shoulder all the time. To add to the fact that most of the current crop of players he has are used to glory under Fergie.

They are exactly in the same spot as us the last few seasons. Yes, it's pitiful for them but remember how they treated us during those times. They never missed any chance to take a jab at us. It's karma I tell you. And for the same reason I won't bother giving sticks at em'. It's funny enough already watching all the glory hunters disappear one by one and their fans having an epic meltdown.
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Anyway, enough of United. Although they are our rivals, I don't hope that they stay in thie predicament for long. The Premier League without a good Man Utd team isn't the Premier League.

Moving on, we're now going into our final third of the season and with 50 points amass, we're in good position to nab that coveted 4th spot. Here are the remaining fixtures:

Wed - 12 Fulham A
Sun - 23 Swansea H

March 2014
Sat - 1 Southampton A
Mon - 10 Sunderland H
Sun - 16 Man United A
Sat - 22 Cardiff A
Sun - 30 Tottenham H

April 2014
Sat - 5 West Ham A
Sat - 12 Man City H
Sat - 19 Norwich A
Sat - 26 Chelsea H

May 2014
Sat - 3 Crystal Palace A
Sun - 11 Newcastle H

Out of the 13 fixtures, 9 of them are 'winnable':
Fulham (A), Swansea (H), Southampton (A), Sunderland (H), Cardiff (A), West Ham (A), Norwich (A), Crystal Palace (A), Newcastle (H)

The ones I've underlined are potential banana skins. Another notable point is that there're only 3 home fixtures in these 9. Still, it shouldn't be unrealistic to expect us to win at least 6 of these games. In fact, I'd argue that if we want to prove our CL credentials, we need to be equally clinical away from home.

BR's final test of the season, if you will. It's do or die.

As for the 4 'tough' games:
Man Utd (A), Spurs (H), Man City (H), Chelsea (H)

Out of the 4, the Spurs game is the most critical as they are our direct contender for 4th spot (Sorry Red Devils, you missed the boat last night). They've done reasonably well under Tim Sherwood but he has yet to be subjected to the Europa League fixtures. The advantage is at our court and if there's one fixture that we must win, this is it.

I'm not banking on the Utd match for points because as far as these fixtures go, form goes out of the window. Still, we've broken some hoodoos (Stoke away, Spurs away, Arsenal home etc) so what's to say the same wouldn't happen at OT?

As for the City and Chelsea games, despite being at home, they will be tough fixtures considering it's the run-in to the league finale. I can't imagine Mourinho dropping points this late in the season and neither would City.

Just to wrap up, if we could get 7W 2D 4L, we will finish the season with 73pts, the same with 4th placed 2012/13 Arsenal and it would be a massive improvement on our last season. Things are currently looking up for us - we have the best front 4 we've had in decades all fully fit and on form, plus players like Allen, Agger, Sakho, Johnson and Enrique coming back in the following weeks. We are ready for the final hurdle.

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Here are Spurs and Everton's remaining 13 fixtures:
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Imo Everton's is tougher of the lot, having to face Chelsea, Arsenal, Utd and City.

Spurs' test will come in March, where they will meet Chelsea, Arsenal and us. Not in the list is their Europa fixture against Dnipro in end of Feb. If they do not falter after March (It's about bloody time their Tim Sherwood feel good factor wears off dammit!), they could potentially catch up with us in April & May.

All in all, it's still not a guarantee we would finish 4th and it will be an exciting end to this crazy season. Nevertheless in many ways, Liverpool has exceeded my pre-season expectations so far and the ball is still in our court.

It could go 2 ways now - it will either be the season we all remember for years to come, or it will be one of missed opportunities.
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Banter is part of football. It's part of the fun. Just keep it classy and don't go overboard with insults. And i think it's fair to say that we're not laughing at them but with them. Even some manc fans themselves find the whole situation hilariously bad biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(bitebug @ Feb 10 2014, 01:19 PM)
Absolutely spot on. One can only guess how much pressure is Moyes under right now, managing a team like Utd. It doesn't help his cause with Fergie hovering over his shoulder all the time. To add to the fact that most of the current crop of players he has are used to glory under Fergie.

They are exactly in the same spot as us the last few seasons. Yes, it's pitiful for them but remember how they treated us during those times. They never missed any chance to take a jab at us. It's karma I tell you. And for the same reason I won't bother giving sticks at em'. It's funny enough already watching all the glory hunters disappear one by one and their fans having an epic meltdown.
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I don't feel an ounce of pity for them for the reasons you've just stated. It's comical to see them up in arms and moaning about the abuse they've been receiving. Hey if you dish it out, you best make sure you can take it. To compound matters, they would not miss an opportunity to stick it to us in particular even if they weren't playing against us.

They should make Fergie buy his own ticket from now on.
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I think if by end March we are at least 9 points ahead of 5th place team, 4th is in our bag. I really can't see we get anymore complacent. The next 7 fixtures are when we should pull away before the Home matches against CFC & MC.
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QUOTE(led_zep_freak @ Feb 10 2014, 02:05 PM)
It could go 2 ways now - it will either be the season we all remember for years to come, or it will be one of missed opportunities.
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I think it's safe to say that 4th place is ours to lose. If we maintain our home form, we should be in a good place come end of the season. Away draws against the likes of WBA are disheartening but these are games we used to lose. Not saying we should be content with a point away from home especially against mid-table sides but getting a result while playing ugly was never something we were particularly good at. Arsenal's next few games will really test their mettle.
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QUOTE(terryfu @ Feb 10 2014, 02:09 PM)
I think if by end March we are at least 9 points ahead of 5th place team, 4th is in our bag. I really can't see we get anymore complacent. The next 7 fixtures are when we should pull away before the Home matches against CFC & MC.
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QUOTE(terryfu @ Feb 10 2014, 02:09 PM)
I think if by end March we are at least 9 points ahead of 5th place team, 4th is in our bag. I really can't see we get anymore complacent. The next 7 fixtures are when we should pull away before the Home matches against CFC & MC.
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That would require Spurs to lose 2 more games than us (Everton to drop points too), overly optimistick imho. laugh.gif

Personally, I think we should aim for 3rd or higher and expect 4th.

QUOTE(Duke Red @ Feb 10 2014, 02:11 PM)
I think it's safe to say that 4th place is ours to lose. If we maintain our home form, we should be in a good place come end of the season. Away draws against the likes of WBA are disheartening but these are games we used to lose. Not saying we should be content with a point away from home especially against mid-table sides but getting a result while playing ugly was never something we were particularly good at. Arsenal's next few games will really test their mettle.
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Thing is, our home games are against Swansea, Sunderland, Newcastle, Spurs, City and Chelsea.

The latter 3 will be tough, home or away.

And on the away end, it's Fulham, Southampton, Cardiff, West Ham, Norwich, Palace and Utd.

Other than Southampton and Utd, the 5 fixtures are against relegation contenders. We must replicate our home form in these away fixtures if we're serious about CL football.

EDIT: Oh regarding Arsenal's fixtures, they have a lot to deal with in these 2 months, God bless them:
Premier League
Arsenal v Man Utd Wed 12 Feb

FA Cup - Fifth Round
Arsenal v Liverpool Sun 16 Feb

Champions League - Champ Lg Round of 16
Arsenal v Bayern Munich Wed 19 Feb

Premier League
Arsenal v Sunderland Sat 22 Feb

March 2014
Premier League
Stoke v Arsenal Sat 1 Mar

Premier League
Arsenal v Swansea Sat 8 Mar

Champions League - Champ Lg Round of 16
Bayern Munich v Arsenal Tue 11 Mar

Premier League
Tottenham v Arsenal Sun 16 Mar

Premier League
Chelsea v Arsenal Sat 22 Mar

Premier League
Arsenal v Man City Sat 29 Mar

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QUOTE(led_zep_freak @ Feb 10 2014, 02:05 PM)
All in all, it's still not a guarantee we would finish 4th and it will be an exciting end to this crazy season. Nevertheless in many ways, Liverpool has exceeded my pre-season expectations so far and the ball is still in our court.

It could go 2 ways now - it will either be the season we all remember for years to come, or it will be one of missed opportunities.
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That's a fair assessment. I will say that Everton will probably drop off sooner than expected. They are struggling quite a bit without Lukaku. Naimsmith is not good enough to start for them and they really struggled to break down Spurs yesterday. I can see some teams looking to gain points off them. Spurs on the other hand are an engima. I just don't get them - they win all these points without ever being remarkable great. I go as far as to say even the mancs deserve more points than Spurs right now.

Fourth place is ours to lose i reckon. Spurs will be on our heels if they keep up racking up these points out of nowhere.
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QUOTE(led_zep_freak @ Feb 10 2014, 02:20 PM)
That would require Spurs to lose 2 more games than us (Everton to drop points too), overly optimistick imho. laugh.gif

Personally, I think we should aim for 3rd or higher and expect 4th.
Thing is, our home games are against Swansea, Sunderland, Newcastle, Spurs, City and Chelsea.

The latter 3 will be tough, home or away.

And on the away end, it's Fulham, Southampton, Cardiff, West Ham, Norwich, Palace and Utd.

Other than Southampton and Utd, the 5 fixtures are against relegation contenders. We must replicate our home form in these away fixtures if we're serious about CL football.

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Spurs is facing Chelsea, Arsenal with Newcastle & Saints their banana skins before facing us. Thats why we should pull away as they have the easier run in after this. I'm not looking so much ahead first but I do am projecting at least 5-6 wins in the next 7 matches. Only Saints & MU away are the doubtful ones but I think we should beat them because of payback against the Saints, and can't wait to see SAS torment Vidic before he leaves.
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Fulham can be tougher than we may expect. Earning that precious one point at OT can go a long way to restore some self belief. They are also the kind of team that we seem to struggle to play against away from home. But they ran themselves into the ground yesterday and looked absolutely knackered. Hopefully they wont recover in time to contain our front four.
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QUOTE(terryfu @ Feb 10 2014, 02:30 PM)
Spurs is facing Chelsea, Arsenal with Newcastle & Saints their banana skins before facing us. Thats why we should pull away as they have the easier run in after this. I'm not looking so much ahead first but I do am projecting at least 5-6 wins in the next 7 matches. Only Saints &  MU away are the doubtful ones but I think we should beat them because of payback against the Saints, and can't wait to see SAS torment Vidic before he leaves.
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Actually uou're right, and we will be facing them end of March. That could widen the gap.

QUOTE(hfi @ Feb 10 2014, 02:34 PM)
Fulham can be tougher than we may expect. Earning that precious one point at OT can go a long way to restore some self belief. They are also the kind of team that we seem to struggle to play against away from home.  But they ran themselves into the ground yesterday and looked absolutely knackered. Hopefully they wont recover in time to contain our front four.
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Yes, they certainly did. They look knackered after conceding the goals, which is why their equalizer was a surprise. Good thing we only need to play for 20 minutes on Saturday. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

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QUOTE(led_zep_freak @ Feb 10 2014, 02:37 PM)
Actually uou're right, and we will be facing them end of March. That could widen the gap.
Yes, they certainly did. Good thing we only need to play for 20 minutes on Saturday. laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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Haha .. seems to be our MO these days. Smash and grab in 20 mins! Be interesting to see if Arsenal will field a strong side considering they have Bayern just days after.
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QUOTE(hfi @ Feb 10 2014, 02:34 PM)
Fulham can be tougher than we may expect. Earning that precious one point at OT can go a long way to restore some self belief. They are also the kind of team that we seem to struggle to play against away from home.  But they ran themselves into the ground yesterday and looked absolutely knackered. Hopefully they wont recover in time to contain our front four.
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I'm more concern on the pitch at Craven Cottage. I notice on poor pitches, our passes / dribbles / first touch doesn't seem to come off well. Hopefully though the last match experience will toughen our guys up.

Last year we won 3-1 on that ground however 2 seasons ago Fulham did the double on us (poor Dalglish).

That said, this is a game that we should win not because that they are last but because we can if our players are driven enough.
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wow, the analyzing abitlities of our forumers is quite surprising to me. to be able to analyze our 4th place odds out of statistics is really impressing.

we are now 6 points behind the league leader, instead of comparing to the like of spurs and everton, what are our odds on even winning the league? its not unlikely no?

mc and chelsea can banana skin too, right?
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One of them banana skin? Possible. Both clubs slip up? Unlikely. Uncharacteristic of Mourinho, in fact. Plus, don't write off Arsenal yet. It's only one loss.
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QUOTE(donalduck @ Feb 10 2014, 02:45 PM)
wow, the analyzing abitlities of our forumers is quite surprising to me. to be able to analyze our 4th place odds out of statistics is really impressing.

we are now 6 points behind the league leader, instead of comparing to the like of spurs and everton, what are our odds on even winning the league? its not unlikely no?

mc and chelsea can banana skin too, right?
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Brilliant display by the team. I was shocking whole match and almost cry to see the result. Am I dreaming? tongue.gif

Please win next match!!!

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yea i know we are not title contenders, but then again.. seems not impossible? can go anywhere from 1st to even 7th lol. just saying, considering lots of stats i seen is to compare us and spurs/eve

why not manc and chelsea? we are not that far. without injuries and we dont even have cups to distract us with, can concentrate on league alone,

i say we do have the chance to even win it. ok fine, 2nd at least
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watching the game with my wife at home, i literally screamed my lungs out in joy each time the team scored sweat.gif
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I was at a high school reunion and my mom messaged me on our family Whatsapp group that it was 4-0 in 30 minutes. I thought she was bullsh*tting until my brother took a screencap of the score and Arsene's face. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(donalduck @ Feb 10 2014, 02:45 PM)
wow, the analyzing abitlities of our forumers is quite surprising to me. to be able to analyze our 4th place odds out of statistics is really impressing.

we are now 6 points behind the league leader, instead of comparing to the like of spurs and everton, what are our odds on even winning the league? its not unlikely no?

mc and chelsea can banana skin too, right?
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Basically any match can be banana skin though Chelsea looks strong and Jose's mind games are starting to pay off not just on the opposition but on his own team as well. We know he builds a strong mentatlity in sides, and the acquisition of Salah & Matic makes them stronger. Matic had 10 successful tackles against Newcastle which is 2.5x our best player's avg (Lucas). I already think he would be playing against us come April.

Mcity look shaky and though El Pel won't admit it, his team must have been deflated by the loss to Chelsea plus he is facing injury issues now. Remember in the beginning Kompany was injured and they also losing their away games. El Pel really need to add variety to his approach coz teams are gonna park the bus in front of them.

Arsenal, whether they can come back for the 4th time hard to say but I think we had just exposed on how to beat them, plus they will face Villa again (lol the ultimate midtable counter attacking team).

Going back to BR, since we are a bit shorthanded, he should try and get the tactics as spot on as possible, maybe go back to 3-5-2 in some matches. Adding variety will surprise the opposition. Even if he don't get the tactics right, we are class enought to win 1-0 / 2-0 but only if our players are also tactically discipline enough to defend. All the goals during the games that we've drawn could have been easily avoided and this again depends on Player's discipline.

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I was at a high school reunion and my mom messaged me on our family Whatsapp group that it was 4-0 in 30 minutes. I thought she was bullsh*tting until my brother took a screencap of the score and Arsene's face. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(donalduck @ Feb 10 2014, 02:45 PM)
wow, the analyzing abitlities of our forumers is quite surprising to me. to be able to analyze our 4th place odds out of statistics is really impressing.

we are now 6 points behind the league leader, instead of comparing to the like of spurs and everton, what are our odds on even winning the league? its not unlikely no?

mc and chelsea can banana skin too, right?
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The difference between them and Liv, MC is very strong at every department. Free scoring team, except the last 2 matches, whereby they miss Ageuro very much.

Chelsea is very good tactically under JM.
If JM want to win 1-0, the final result can be 1-0.

Arsenal is good in demolishing lower league teams generally aka quite consistently in beating those team that on paper that they should win one.

And all of them have good defensive record, ability to keep clean sheet is good.

Until Liv sort out the defensive issue, and ability keep clean sheet throughout, and have consistently performance as well as tactically issue, it is still premature to talk about it.


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Personally, I think we should aim for 3rd or higher and expect 4th.
Thing is, our home games are against Swansea, Sunderland, Newcastle, Spurs, City and Chelsea.

The latter 3 will be tough, home or away.

And on the away end, it's Fulham, Southampton, Cardiff, West Ham, Norwich, Palace and Utd.

Other than Southampton and Utd, the 5 fixtures are against relegation contenders. We must replicate our home form in these away fixtures if we're serious about CL football.
Well I was hoping for a top 6 finish based on last season and I'm not about to get carried away. A few posters have pointed out that on paper, we aren't a top four contender but Rodgers and the team have thus far defied any notion that we aren't a side to be taken lightly. I think it's important not to have our expectations fluctuate too frequently. Whilst my expectations remain, I can't quite say the same about my hopes smile.gif

There are a number of fans who expected a top four finish but based on the assumption that we would reinforce the side which we haven't for one reason or other. Given this, a Champions League spot would be a massive achievement. Sure, the mancs have gone off the pace a little but Everton were the last Premiership side to be beaten and they've gone from strength to strength under Martinez. Spurs are also in with a shout. The competition has gotten stiffer.
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Going back to BR, since we are a bit shorthanded, he should try and get the tactics as spot on as possible, maybe go back to 3-5-2 in some matches. Adding variety will surprise the opposition. Even if he don't get the tactics right, we are class enought to win 1-0 / 2-0 but only if our players are also tactically discipline enough to defend. All the goals during the games that we've drawn could have been easily avoided and this again depends on Player's discipline.
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Since Liv defence is not tight enough, a lot of time when BR get the tactically wrong, Liv already conceded 0-1 or 0-2, typically happen against Villa match.

Don't be carry away with 5-1 win against Arsenal, although it was a magnificent performance and a good win.
The current team still lack of consistency and some defensive issue.
Cemented 4th place, leaving gap between 5th is the ultimate goal right now, or may be third.
(to ensure CL football next year, as 4th place still need to play qualifying match for CL group which can be a banana skin as well, if unfavourable draw for qualify round, Everton experienced it before)
(also 4th place won't be to qualify into CL if MU that finished the league outside 4th, but win CL)
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My main concern currently is still our squad depth. It still has some injury concerns especially in defence. And there are no quality (not enough, anyway) players off the bench to replace Suarez or Sturridge should it be necessary. We've been blessed by superb form from the both of them. I hope both don't suffer any injuries or burnout from now on. Since Suarez's return from suspension, I can't remember which game he hasn't started apart from the League Cup match against United. But he's still pressing defenders from the front like a rabbit on steroids. May it continue. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 10 2014, 03:17 PM)
Since Liv defence is not tight enough, a lot of time when BR get the tactically wrong, Liv already conceded 0-1 or 0-2, typically happen against Villa match.

Don't be carry away with 5-1 win against Arsenal, although it was a magnificent performance and a good win.
The current team still lack of consistency and some defensive issue.
Cemented 4th place, leaving gap between 5th is the ultimate goal right now, or may be third.
(to ensure CL football next year, as 4th place still need to play qualifying match for CL group which can be a banana skin as well, if unfavourable draw for qualify round, Everton experienced it before)
(also 4th place won't be to qualify into CL if MU that finished the league outside 4th, but win CL)
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As I said even if we do get tactics wrong, we have the quality to win by 1 or 2 goals. So long as they are tactically discipline to defend. We did it in the 1st 3 matches. If he gets his tactics right, it should be another 3 plus goals again.

I'm hoping by now he has instill a strong mentality in the guys to do pressing and stand up and be counted like cissokho & coutinho against Arsenal.

MU win CL? I have to scoff at this *ROTFLMAO*


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MU win CL? I have to scoff at this *ROTFLMAO*
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I said that to my Manc friend and he laughed at my blind optimism. But least we forget, what you're saying is probably what people said about Liverpool in 04/05.

And who knows, Moyes might be sacked next week and SAF returns to management. Football is round. laugh.gif
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I was at a high school reunion and my mom messaged me on our family Whatsapp group that it was 4-0 in 30 minutes. I thought she was bullsh*tting until my brother took a screencap of the score and Arsene's face. laugh.gif
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Was on my way home from Sg Buluh after dinner.
Went to find out score from net.

Liverpool 4 Arsenal 0

Told my friend who was driving.......

"ARE YOU REAL"?
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 10 2014, 03:07 PM)
The difference between them and Liv, MC is very strong at every department. Free scoring team, except the last 2 matches, whereby they miss Ageuro very much.

Chelsea is very good tactically under JM.
If JM want to win 1-0, the final result can be 1-0.

Arsenal is good in demolishing lower league teams generally aka quite consistently in beating those team that on paper that they should win one.

And all of them have good defensive record, ability to keep clean sheet is good.

Until Liv sort out the defensive issue, and ability keep clean sheet throughout, and have consistently performance as well as tactically issue, it is still premature to talk about it.
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Surely we are watching different MancsC?

Their defence is also leaking goals.

If JM wants 1-0, he gets it?
Wonder what he wanted for the Stoke game? biggrin.gif
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Since Liv defence is not tight enough, a lot of time when BR get the tactically wrong, Liv already conceded 0-1 or 0-2, typically happen against Villa match.

Don't be carry away with 5-1 win against Arsenal, although it was a magnificent performance and a good win.
The current team still lack of consistency and some defensive issue.
Cemented 4th place, leaving gap between 5th is the ultimate goal right now, or may be third.
(to ensure CL football next year, as 4th place still need to play qualifying match for CL group which can be a banana skin as well, if unfavourable draw for qualify round, Everton experienced it before)
(also 4th place won't be to qualify into CL if MU that finished the league outside 4th, but win CL)
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Look guys, rather than talk about being league contenders, why not ask ourselves why we are 6 points away from Chelsea?

Had we won the game against West Brom or Villa, would have been much closer to the top 3 and considered league contenders. If we dropped points against these teams, we will do it again. Let's not get carried away. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(8sg9ft @ Feb 10 2014, 03:19 PM)
My main concern currently is still our squad depth. It still has some injury concerns especially in defence. And there are no quality (not enough, anyway) players off the bench to replace Suarez or Sturridge should it be necessary. We've been blessed by superb form from the both of them. I hope both don't suffer any injuries or burnout from now on. Since Suarez's return from suspension, I can't remember which game he hasn't started apart from the League Cup match against United. But he's still pressing defenders from the front like a rabbit on steroids. May it continue. biggrin.gif
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Modern footballers should be able to play 50 games a season.

We aren't in the league cup and Euro.

Should be fine.

As for Suarez, he didn't play for 8 games beginning of season.
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QUOTE(8sg9ft @ Feb 10 2014, 03:19 PM)
My main concern currently is still our squad depth. It still has some injury concerns especially in defence. And there are no quality (not enough, anyway) players off the bench to replace Suarez or Sturridge should it be necessary. We've been blessed by superb form from the both of them. I hope both don't suffer any injuries or burnout from now on. Since Suarez's return from suspension, I can't remember which game he hasn't started apart from the League Cup match against United. But he's still pressing defenders from the front like a rabbit on steroids. May it continue. biggrin.gif
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Squad depth is something we've been lamenting for awhile now. I mean even when Rafa won the holy grail of European football back in 2005, we didn't have too much quality on the bench. We had to field Harry Kewell who had just returned from a lengthy layoff and we had to call upon Djibril Cisse. Who else did we have? Igor Biscan, Salif Diao, Smicer, La Tallec, Mellor, Flo Po? Not much different from what we have now in terms of quality.

The problem is that to have a quality bench, you need to make it worthwhile for quality players to spend time there and to me this means offering Champions League football or a healthy wage packet. Man City can field 2 first teams but look at the combined worth of their players and their salaries. We've been signing young and loan players in hope that they can rise to the occasion when called upon. We simply cannot underestimate the appeal of European football. Even if we do manage to unearth quality gems as squad players, how long before they are poached by a bigger side offering Champions League football and an opportunity at silverware? I reckon that if we can cement a place in the top four and remain contenders until the end of the season, we'll have an easier time adding quality to the bench.
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Feb 10 2014, 03:35 PM)
Modern footballers should be able to play 50 games a season.

We aren't in the league cup and Euro.

Should be fine.

As for Suarez, he didn't play for 8 games beginning of season.
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I don't think the issue is as much about player fatigues as it is about injuries. You can be fit as a horse but an ACL injury for example would floor Superman. If the first teamers stay fit, we have reason to be optimistic.

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Feb 10 2014, 03:30 PM)
Surely we are watching different MancsC?

Their defence is also leaking goals. 

If JM wants 1-0, he gets it?
Wonder what he wanted for the Stoke game?    biggrin.gif
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Yes, especially away matches, whereby this is Mancity weakness, if not they are the runaway leader already.

Check the statement I made, if JM wants 1-0, he can get it. , doesn't mean guarantee, but a lot of time, it happened.
No matter how, you need to salute JM tactically superiority in a lot of matches.



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I already very optimistic that prefer to see Liv to challenge 3rd and leaving gap behind 5th. smile.gif

It is not about optimism or not, it is about reality check.
As said before, there still issues around before realistic can see Liv is up to the top and challenge for the title.

See how fast slip up from the table from the top before Christmas, just because a few matches hiccup, can drop to 5th.
At that time, already said Liv was not title contender, but being criticised for making such a statement, and other reality check was Liv is top of table before Christmas.
At that time, even Liv was on top, but from the performance, it was not convincing for go all the way.

Enjoy, still enjoy.
Yes, good to see win in such a magnificent style but it doesn't mean we carry away that expect Liv to challenge the title just because of it.

Why said reality check is not title contender?
1. Lack of consistency, aka you want to be title contender, you need ability to string a row of win together, aka like win at least 8 matches out of 9/10 matches, which at time the team blow hot and cold. Especially in away matches, stat is quite poor for even 4th place finish. 4 win on the road out of 12 matches played, this is not a title contender stat. Home form, yes, it is.

2. Keep the defence tight, not conceding, it means you have chance to win 1-0, scrap those win ugly, as it is impossible to win every match 3-0, 5-1.

3. Tactically superiority, against top team, there is little difference between personnel sometimes, but a better superiority in tactical, win the match for you.

Until above 3 issues being sorted out, 3rd spot is already a big achievement for the end of season. It is not about not pessimistic but about reality check, it doesn't mean I expect doom and gloom on the prospect ahead.
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I said that to my Manc friend and he laughed at my blind optimism. But least we forget, what you're saying is probably what people said about Liverpool in 04/05.

And who knows, Moyes might be sacked next week and SAF returns to management. Football is round. laugh.gif
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I'm sorry but as a Liverpool fan I expect them to go in and win everything. Even back in 04/05. Even when 3-0 down I watched till the end expecting to win 4-3. Sure my optimism gets damaged everytime we lose but I will always support Reds till the my blood does not flow red anymore.

And if I'm a true MU fan I would do the same thing and just scoff at the person (like me) who says this. But unfortunately I'm not so am just gonna enjoy ROTFLMAO when I hear that MU gonna win the CL tongue.gif. And since I can't see what happens in May (should even MU make it), I'm just gonna enjoy the moment and ROTFLMAO smile.gif


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Was on my way home from Sg Buluh after dinner.
Went to find out score from net.

Liverpool 4  Arsenal  0

Told my friend who was driving.......

"ARE YOU REAL"?
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i finished online racing after half time and on my Astro and saw the score...i went 'WWWUTTTTTTTTTT???'
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 10 2014, 03:59 PM)
It is not about optimism or not, it is about reality check.
As said before, there still issues around before realistic can see Liv is up to the top and challenge for the title.

See how fast slip up from the table from the top before Christmas, just because a few matches hiccup, can drop to 5th.
At that time, already said Liv was not title contender, but being criticised for making such a statement, and other reality check was Liv is top of table before Christmas.
At that time, even Liv was on top, but from the performance, it was not convincing for go all the way.

Enjoy, still enjoy.
Yes, good to see win in such a magnificent style but it doesn't mean we carry away that expect Liv to challenge the title just because of it.

Why said reality check is not title contender?
1. Lack of consistency, aka you want to be title contender, you need ability to string a row of win together, aka like win at least 8 matches out of 9/10 matches, which at time the team blow hot and cold. Especially in away matches, stat is quite poor for even 4th place finish. 4 win on the road out of 12 matches played, this is not a title contender stat. Home form, yes, it is.

2. Keep the defence tight, not conceding, it means you have chance to win 1-0, scrap those win ugly, as it is impossible to win every match 3-0, 5-1.

3. Tactically superiority, against top team, there is little difference between personnel sometimes, but a better superiority in tactical, win the match for you.

Until above 3 issues being sorted out, 3rd spot is already a big achievement for the end of season. It is not about not pessimistic but about reality check, it doesn't mean I expect doom and gloom on the prospect ahead.
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Always good to have a mixed bag of true Kopites. Nothing wrong with some of us taking reality check and nothing wrong to have blind optimism as well. To be frank, every game Liv play I always expect an avalanche of goals. I said earlier some of the games we drawn could have been won. Am also thinking some of the games we won by 3 - 5 goals could have been even more as well. For me when I hear BR still not satisfied that they missed some easy chances shows that he will not rest until his quest to bring the best out of the team happens.

So come Craven Cottage, am still gonna expect us to win by 4 to 5 goals.
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i finished online racing after half time and on my Astro and saw the score...i went 'WWWUTTTTTTTTTT???'
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If not Sturridge missed 1 v 1 against keeper that rushing out, and Suarez hit the post and Toure fail to hit on target on the rebound of open goal,
it could be 6-0 even before lunch time...... or by 20 mins specifically.

I cannot believe the scoreline as well, even watching on live.

That's why commentator said, "how many you want"
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If not Sturridge missed 1 v 1 against keeper that rushing out, and Suarez hit the post and Toure fail to hit on target on the rebound of open goal,
it could be 6-0 even before lunch time...... or by 20 mins specifically.

I cannot believe the scoreline as well, even watching on live.

That's why commentator said, "how many you want"
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No one was prepared for that. Not even us.
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Yes, especially away matches, whereby this is Mancity weakness, if not they are the runaway leader already.

Check the statement I made, if JM wants 1-0, he can get it. , doesn't mean guarantee, but a lot of time, it happened.
No matter how, you need to salute JM tactically superiority in a lot of matches.
I already very optimistic that prefer to see Liv to challenge 3rd and leaving gap behind 5th.  smile.gif 


You have a funny way of stating absolute statements and then qualifying them later when questioned.
Next time, state your exclusions to your statements.

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It is not about optimism or not, it is about reality check.
As said before, there still issues around before realistic can see Liv is up to the top and challenge for the title.

See how fast slip up from the table from the top before Christmas, just because a few matches hiccup, can drop to 5th.
At that time, already said Liv was not title contender, but being criticised for making such a statement, and other reality check was Liv is top of table before Christmas.
At that time, even Liv was on top, but from the performance, it was not convincing for go all the way.

Enjoy, still enjoy.
Yes, good to see win in such a magnificent style but it doesn't mean we carry away that expect Liv to challenge the title just because of it.

Why said reality check is not title contender?
1. Lack of consistency, aka you want to be title contender, you need ability to string a row of win together, aka like win at least 8 matches out of 9/10 matches, which at time the team blow hot and cold. Especially in away matches, stat is quite poor for even 4th place finish. 4 win on the road out of 12 matches played, this is not a title contender stat. Home form, yes, it is.

2. Keep the defence tight, not conceding, it means you have chance to win 1-0, scrap those win ugly, as it is impossible to win every match 3-0, 5-1.

3. Tactically superiority, against top team, there is little difference between personnel sometimes, but a better superiority in tactical, win the match for you.

Until above 3 issues being sorted out, 3rd spot is already a big achievement for the end of season. It is not about not pessimistic but about reality check, it doesn't mean I expect doom and gloom on the prospect ahead.
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REALity? We just THRASHED the team leading the PL 5-1! That's reality! Enjoy it!

No one is saying title contenders till April maybe. Nothing wrong to dream.
BUT all we see from your are NEGAtives. even after reality of THRASING the team leading the league 5-1

After typing ALL those 3 points, a question for you?
Are MancsC and Arsenal title contenders?
Think carefully before you answer
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Bro, but you are happy or not happy? tongue.gif
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Next time, I should better put more rclxm9.gif icon on my post. biggrin.gif

Still scratching my head, why I am being seen not happy.

Just a reality check statement Liv is not (or yet) title contender, doesn't mean I am not happy to see Liv current position. nod.gif
Ok, another rclxm9.gif laugh.gif

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Bro, but you are happy or not happy? tongue.gif
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REALITY

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This was Arsenal being humiliated here, not some tinpot, raggle-taggle outfit.

Arsenal, top of the league and with only one defeat in 13 against Liverpool; a team capable of repeating the hammering they dished out to Liverpool at the Emirates earlier in the season in the cup next week; a team whose brand of football is admired more than any of Liverpool's rivals.
http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/rod...e-29994188.html
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Feb 10 2014, 04:44 PM)
agreed. wishful thinking - really hope that we can produce the exact same result for the clash. laugh.gif
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Rodgers Pep talk for Skrtel!

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Feb 10 2014, 04:31 PM)
You have a funny way of stating absolute statements and then qualifying them later when questioned.
Next time, state your exclusions to your statements.
REALity?  We just THRASHED the team leading the PL 5-1!  That's reality!  Enjoy it!

No one is saying title contenders till April maybe. Nothing wrong to dream.
BUT all we see from your are NEGAtives.  even after reality of THRASING the team leading the league 5-1

After typing ALL those 3 points, a question for you?
Are MancsC and Arsenal title contenders?
Think carefully before you answer
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Some people happy and enjoy with every single result of win.
While some people happy with every single result of win but still with an eye on bigger picture.

Reality check, doesn't mean negativity. Just like prior before Chritsmas, I was saying Liv was not title contender, 4th place is the target. Reality, slipped up nearly to 5th.
I don't think by saying Liv is not title contender is a negative comment at all.

If other view it as negative, I cannot stop one doing so.

Even BR also saying Liv is not title contender in the interview after the matches, so the manager also negative then...






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QUOTE(terryfu @ Feb 10 2014, 04:59 PM)
the lad really did fought hard for his spot. even played after having his head injury stapled back together flex.gif
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So it's reality check if BR says we're not a contender. But if JM does it, he's a master at mindgames.
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Feb 10 2014, 04:44 PM)
I see it is a replica issue when Liv was on top of table prior before Christmas.

I was being labelled negative as well when saying Liv was not title contender despite sitting on top.
But other said, reality was Liv was on top of table, title credential.

The reality at the moment is Liv sitting on 4th and Spurs just behind with 3 points. rclxm9.gif (must put this icon, if not being seen as not happy) laugh.gif

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 10 2014, 05:06 PM)
I see it is a replica issue when Liv was on top of table prior before Christmas.

I was being labelled negative as well when saying Liv was not title contender despite sitting on top.
But other said, reality was Liv was on top of table, title credential.

The reality at the moment is Liv sitting on 4th and Spurs just behind with 3 points.  rclxm9.gif (must put this icon, if not being seen as not happy)  laugh.gif
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After last weekend, we are nearer to 3rd............. spurs 3 points from us has NOT changed. That's positive.


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QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 10 2014, 05:06 PM)
I see it is a replica issue when Liv was on top of table prior before Christmas.

I was being labelled negative as well when saying Liv was not title contender despite sitting on top.
But other said, reality was Liv was on top of table, title credential.

The reality at the moment is Liv sitting on 4th and Spurs just behind with 3 points.  rclxm9.gif (must put this icon, if not being seen as not happy)  laugh.gif
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I'm curious man. What is your definition of a title contender ?
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Could you answer my question above?

Based On your 3 points, do you then think MancsC and Arse are title contenders? 

The problem with your statements is that: ALL the statements are rather negative. That's why you come across as negative!  biggrin.gif

Whats good with our team?  wink.gif  TEN points please. 
Then you can rant yer negatives    biggrin.gif
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1. Sturridge is scoring every matches
2. Gerrard fire up, play quite good in the new role
3. Suarez look threatening every match, despite not scoring.
4. Flanagan improve a lot as FB
5. Cisso look improve and solid as well.
6. Skrtel top of scorer chart as defender
7. Coutinho look like world class playmaker/passer
8. Sterling pace is terrific
9. Henderson keep on harrassing/closing down opponent, that ease the defending issue
10. The manager is flexible in changing tactic that was poor, instead stubbornly stick to own liking.

Satisfy? rclxm9.gif laugh.gif
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Here's another superb article I dig up concerning the passion of Suarez

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/pas...inish-1.1685341

This guy truly is our talisman. Even winning 5-1, he is still sad coz he hadn't scored. FSG & BR did the right thing in keeping him, and good to see BR recognize not just quality but that our beloved Luis is such a wonderful person with ambition and drive to win. During the match he got more angry when Sturridge missed an open goal after his through ball then probably sturridge himself. Hope he recovered from his mini (180 min Mcity-like) drought soon, and like they always say what better way than to end droughts with a match against Fulham smile.gif
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even then man himself is not letting the result get to him

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I'm curious man. What is your definition of a title contender ?
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At least consistently and ability to have string result of win together, seldom leaking goal.
Liv is blowing hot and cold.
One day world beater, another day struggling especially in away matches.

Credit given, home match is very good this season. (positive) laugh.gif
In away match, you don't know what kind of team is turning up, despite with the same tactic, formation and personnel with the home match.




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http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/footb...rd-says-6689107

Top 3 Performance.

1. Istanbul
2. Olympiakos
3. Arsenal

Was just thinking about other great performances - West Ham FA Cup, Real Madrid and Man Utd demolition
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At least consistently and ability to have string result of win together, seldom leaking goal.
Liv is blowing hot and cold.
One day world beater, another day struggling especially in away matches.

Credit given, home match is very good this season. (positive)  laugh.gif
In away match, you don't know what kind of team is turning up, despite with the same tactic, formation and personnel with the home match.
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You're kinda summing up our 08-09 performance there. We blew a massive lead came new year and then back in it for rest of the season. But say if we end up finishing third or second with 6 points behind the leader would you say we were title contenders ?
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13 games remaining...6 points away....can't help....getting a bit carried away...
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13 games remaining...6 points away....can't help....getting a bit carried away...
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I mentioned.............dream

25 April 14

Chelssea 86pts

Liverpool 83pts


Sat, Apr 26 Liverpool vs Chelsea


Me birthday 22 April! rclxms.gif

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I mentioned.............dream

25 April 14

Chelssea        86pts

Liverpool      83pts
Sat, Apr 26  Liverpool vs Chelsea 
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I mentioned.............dream

25 April 14

Chelssea        86pts

Liverpool      83pts
Sat, Apr 26  Liverpool vs Chelsea 
Me birthday 22 April!      rclxms.gif
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OMG 26th April is mine lol. This either going to be the sweetest or bitterest present ever!
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My, we certainly have a wide range of optimism levels amongst the forumers here. Some are super optimistic, some are realists, and there are a few pessimists too. tongue.gif

Surprised no gathering for that Arsenal match. When was the last time you guys had one, anyway?
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I mentioned.............dream

25 April 14

Chelssea        86pts

Liverpool      83pts
Sat, Apr 26  Liverpool vs Chelsea 
Me birthday 22 April!      rclxms.gif
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NO NO NO back to the ground. We killed Everton off and then played badly at WBA. We're up against Fulham who're on a high after a draw at OT.

I've also calculated (very optimistically), we may get about 78-ish kind of points. We still have Man Utd, Man City, Spurs and Southampton away to play. Among all that, maybe we will come up short against Cardiff...who knows. sweat.gif
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13 games remaining...6 points away....can't help....getting a bit carried away...
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AS long AS SASASAS laugh.gif stay fit for the rest of the season and take one game at a time like playing cup finals... Why not?
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Ive just watched the game again, apart from the goals.. need to give credit to hendo, gerrard and couts they were so good. Hendo vs Ozil couple of times.. Hendo pressed him so hard he cant even dribble or pass properly and one of it leads to the 3rd goal.. good stuff from the players
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no...dats imposibbru
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You are right..............IMPOSSIBLE cos there are twoi more matches after.

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Lets have at 25April 14

Chelsea 76
Liverpool 73


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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Feb 10 2014, 05:30 PM)
I mentioned.............dream

25 April 14

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Sat, Apr 26  Liverpool vs Chelsea 
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Come on guys, a bit of math won't hurt. We would have played 10 more matches when we face Chelsea. So even if we win all games, we would go into it with 80pts. laugh.gif

Man, even if we finish the season with 80pts, drinks is on me for final match. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(kevafk @ Feb 10 2014, 05:40 PM)
Ive just watched the game again, apart from the goals.. need to give credit to hendo, gerrard and couts they were so good. Hendo vs Ozil couple of times.. Hendo pressed him so hard he cant even dribble or pass properly and one of it leads to the 3rd goal.. good stuff from the players
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The battle between Wilshere and Coutinho was great to watch. They were both marking each other out but Coutinho was far too slippery for Wilshere.
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Come on guys, a bit of math won't hurt. We would have played 10 more matches when we face Chelsea. So even if we win all games, we would go into it with 80pts. laugh.gif

Man, even if we finish the season with 80pts, drinks is on me for final match. laugh.gif
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Highly improbable but mathematically POSSIBLE

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QUOTE(hfi @ Feb 10 2014, 05:42 PM)
The battle between Wilshere and Coutinho was great to watch. They were both marking each other out but Coutinho was far too slippery for Wilshere.
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The battle between Wilshere and Coutinho was great to watch. They were both marking each other out but Coutinho was far too slippery for Wilshere.
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that's what alot of ppl said about hendo before this season started...and also during the early parts whistling.gif
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QUOTE(kevafk @ Feb 10 2014, 05:49 PM)
Yea couts so dynamic, fast and direct.. you could look at his eyes on the ball so concentrated he will try to dribble to beat you or he will look for killer thru ball. Hes worth 43mil pounds biggrin.gif
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that's what alot of ppl said about hendo before this season started...and also during the early parts  whistling.gif
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Im a fan of Hendo always been defending them.. also Allen biggrin.gif

We need to win all games, goals galore, playing attractive football to please the fans here.. its difficult sad.gif
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He needs more confidence in shooting though.
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I like the lad but Hendo is overated. I admire his humility and workrate but those qualities does not amount to 20M.

Wilshere is extremely overated because the english media branded him world class. The rest of the world chuckled. Hes a great young player but far from "world class"..not yet at least.
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To be honest, I defended Hendo too earlier, but doesn't mean he is worth the monies we paid. What I see earlier is a boy that runs himself to the ground but nothing more...He rightly took some sticks, as playing for Liverpool is more than running...but fast forward a few months, he is everywhere and his contribution is more than covering grounds. I see him running into passage, tackling, shadowing, thru passing, pressing, attacking, dribbling, flicks and covering the flanks, body checking...a whole plethora of functions except scoring (consistently that is..) His stock is definitely on the rise, how much he is worth now, I dunno, but as what KK did say that others wont be paying the same price he paid when he made the purchase...
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Feb 10 2014, 05:52 PM)
that's what alot of ppl said about hendo before this season started...and also during the early parts  whistling.gif
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never rate hendo at the 1st place.. he just doing his job.. you got stamina then you run..
when coutinho sublime pass to hendo, i think 90% fan think it wasnt a goal.. and yes it isnt
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Well, right now Hendo's definitely playing a lot better than when he first started to at LFC. He has improved a lot since he's been in the team in 2010. Certainly not world class, but good enough for now. We take what we can get from him at this moment.
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Take Hendo out of the team now and i reckon this team will collapse. He's that important right now.
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Take Hendo out of the team now and i reckon this team will collapse. He's that important right now.
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This I agree. He may not have the chops to be a top player, skill and flair wise but he more than makes up for that with this determination and work rate.

He may not be everyone's cup of tea but I fully agree that he is essential for Liverpool Football Club. I'm sure coaches will appreciate a player like him more than say the likes of Hatem Ben Arfa or Adel Taarabt.

He is important FOR US but that doesnt give us the license to put him up on the pedestal and rate him above his natural abilities. Let him do his job.

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oh out of nowhere, Hendo bashing begins...
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Haha its funny. I was just talking about Wilshere and Coutinho and suddenly Hendo gets pulled into the convo.
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QUOTE(skeleton202 @ Feb 10 2014, 06:19 PM)
never rate hendo at the 1st place.. he just doing his job.. you got stamina then you run..
when coutinho sublime pass to hendo, i think 90% fan think it wasnt a goal.. and yes it isnt
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Run? U gotta run smartly. Maybe I'm that 10% fan that thought it was going to be a goal. We were 5 goals in, he was trying a cheeky lob, I don't see anything wrong with it. If were 1 goal ahead, I think he would have placed the shot or be more serious with it.
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cos both hendo and wilshere are gonna be contenders for future captain of england 1st team...haha.
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Yeah he missed a golden chance but let's not forget that he had Ozil in his pocket. That 3rd goal was all about Hendo. It was his pressing that forced Ozil to give up possession and it was his run from midfield that push back the entire Arsenal line. I don't know how much that's worth but for me it's priceless biggrin.gif
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Some of those defenders must be feeling some nasty headaches after clearing out all those crosses.
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Some of those defenders must be feeling some nasty headaches after clearing out all those crosses.
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Yeah, hope the headache will stay for the next 3 days with the side effect of pening kepala so that the lads will have easy time with them this coming match.
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Some of those defenders must be feeling some nasty headaches after clearing out all those crosses.
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“Brendan is the type of manager that won’t just accept 4-0. He believes in 'death by football' and at half-time he wanted us to go out and kill them again in the second half.

“We never did that but that was impossible because of the amount of effort, tempo and work rate we put in for 45 minutes.

It is impossible to do it for 90 minutes. The game was dead and buried at half-time.”

I could see a tactical master like Mourinho setting up his team to survive our 1st half onslaught and just waiting to pounce back at us in the 2nd half.

Also will be interesting to see how we play United at OT. The crossing thing might be a joke at the moment but we have shown enough this season that we are really bad at dealing with crosses. Fortunately United doesn't have that big imposing forward to connect to those crosses.

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I like the lad but Hendo is overated. I admire his humility and workrate but those qualities does not amount to 20M.

Wilshere is extremely overated because the english media branded him world class. The rest of the world chuckled. Hes a great young player but far from "world class"..not yet at least.
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Well that's subjective as of now. I mean he's become an integral member of the first team and since Coutinho has been filling the advanced central midfield role, he's had to play further back with Gerrard.

Hendo may not be worth the 20 mil we forked out for him yet but he's shown a marked improvement in his game and that counts for something. You don't get many midfielders these days that show competency on both ends of the pitch, playing different roles. Suffice to say, there is no one in the team right now who can fill his shoes. In the world? Sure.
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I wonder what is allen's role in the team actually?

The team seems to be doing well without him.
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I wonder what is allen's role in the team actually?

The team seems to be doing well without him.
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I see that you ask this question every now and then as if his very presence in the squad upsets you or something. But to answer your question, i reckon his role right now is to provide depth should we need it.
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“Brendan is the type of manager that won’t just accept 4-0. He believes in 'death by football' and at half-time he wanted us to go out and kill them again in the second half.

“We never did that but that was impossible because of the amount of effort, tempo and work rate we put in for 45 minutes.

It is impossible to do it for 90 minutes. The game was dead and buried at half-time.”

I could see a tactical master like Mourinho setting up his team to survive our 1st half onslaught and just waiting to pounce back at us in the 2nd half.

Also will be interesting to see how we play United at OT. The crossing thing might be a joke at the moment but we have shown enough this season that we are really bad at dealing with crosses. Fortunately United doesn't have that big imposing forward to connect to those crosses.
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Some how I think Moyes tactic or infinite crosses might haunt those team that bad in defending crosses and set pieces. Look at Arsenal, they conceded 2 goals from set pieces, crosses as well by us.

If they really make use of good crosses from both Mata and Janujaz, they might be able to score at least 1 against Arsenal.
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QUOTE(hfi @ Feb 10 2014, 08:48 PM)
I see that you ask this question every now and then as if his very presence in the squad upsets you or something. But to answer your question, i reckon his role right now is to provide depth should we need it.
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Indeed it does for me seeing deadwood on the liverpool bench.
What do you think his role will be in the summer transfer window?

I personally think his sale will used to raise funds for a quality midfielder.

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Indeed it does for me seeing deadwood on the liverpool bench.
What do you think his role will be in the summer transfer window?

I personally think his sale will used to raise funds for a quality midfielder.
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Well i can see him go if we need to raise the money for additional players. But i haven't seen enough of him to fully judge him as a Liverpool player. I mean Hendo was crap during his first 2 seasons and we nearly traded him for Dempsey. And look what he's become for us. I think we need to give BR the time to work his magic on Allen, unless of course the manager himself feels he's a surplus to requirement..
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I don't really see the need in selling Allen yet. He has been unlucky with injuries this season but he had a decent - albeit short - spell when Gerrard was out. Let's not be hasty in...

Wait wait... why are we talking about Hendo and Allen again? WHO OPENED THE CAN OF WORMS THIS TIME?! biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(lerijiso @ Feb 10 2014, 06:30 PM)
This I agree. He may not have the chops to be a top player, skill and flair wise but he more than makes up for that with this determination and work rate.

He may not be everyone's cup of tea but I fully agree that he is essential for Liverpool Football Club. I'm sure coaches will appreciate a player like him more than say the likes of Hatem Ben Arfa or Adel Taarabt.

He is important FOR US but that doesnt give us the license to put him up on the pedestal and rate him above his natural abilities. Let him do his job.
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you cant have 11 players playing sexy football
you need someone like him doing the mopping and sweeping , the so called dirty job
without his pressing, is liverpool that effective?! we dunno but gut feeling will tell us that it will be hard.....

mata was dropped by Chelsea cos he dont work hard enough = pressing unlike oscar
ozil was none existence cos his work rate = 0
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QUOTE(Rotuham @ Feb 10 2014, 08:38 PM)
I wonder what is allen's role in the team actually?

The team seems to be doing well without him.
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Can't wait for Sakho to get back into the team to resume the SaS partnership tongue.gif
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Run? U gotta run smartly. Maybe I'm that 10% fan that thought it was going to be a goal. We were 5 goals in, he was trying a cheeky lob, I don't see anything wrong with it. If were 1 goal ahead, I think he would have placed the shot or be more serious with it.
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VT"s Cadiff City required player's DOB with number 8 before joining them. Liverpool now want player with S initial in it? no wonder they want Salah.
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Next I want Schweinsteiger for the S in the midfield! rclxm9.gif
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Next time, I should better put  more rclxm9.gif icon on my post.  biggrin.gif

Still scratching my head, why I am being seen not happy.

Just a reality check statement Liv is not (or yet) title contender, doesn't mean I am not happy to see Liv current position.  nod.gif
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Can't wait for Sakho to get back into the team to resume the SaS partnership tongue.gif
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What about Kolo Mee? Hate to see him on the bench now since his brilliant display. Actually it's quite a nice problem we are gonna have.

Dagger is coming back as well. 4 good CB with 2 on the bench playing yoyo. That is quite a depth in the squad when there's no injuries tongue.gif

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QUOTE(yeelong @ Feb 10 2014, 10:19 PM)
VT"s Cadiff City required player's DOB with number 8 before joining them. Liverpool now want player with S initial in it? no wonder they want Salah.
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LOL..so true. Salah would've added to our mass collection of S'.
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LOL..so true. Salah would've added to our mass collection of S'.
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I dont understand. In that case, why cant we sign Sharon Stone? She has double S tongue.gif

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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Feb 11 2014, 12:53 AM)
I dont understand. In that case, why cant we sign Sharon Stone? She has double S tongue.gif

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Only if she knows how to kick. I just found out we have number of Sss in the team, Skertal, Shako, Simon, Steven G, Suarez, Sterling, Sturidge and who else? Another 4 more can form a "S"uper Team.

p/s, dilon, i saw what you did there.. brows.gif brows.gif

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QUOTE(yeelong @ Feb 11 2014, 12:58 AM)

p/s, dilon, i saw what you did there.. brows.gif brows.gif
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It was a big "Oppsss". Sharon's exposed. tongue.gif Scare the mod add another 10% for me for putting a hamsap picture. biggrin.gif

By the way, Maureen is being honest and realistic with his statement. Bro Cherroy, read this. tongue.gif (Contender or not? biggrin.gif )

"I think all the top four can win the title. They [Liverpool] have a very young team to develop, the manager is very good, and the fact they don't play Champions League is very important for them," Mourinho said. "Liverpool only plays one match a week and that makes a real difference when it comes to March, April, beginning of May.
"The difference between first and fourth is six points. Everybody is in the race, everybody has an influence in the race, every team is fighting for points, every team is taking points from the big teams.

Read more at http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story...ZrqK3JR0d0pl.99
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Feb 11 2014, 01:04 AM)
It was a big "Oppsss". Sharon's exposed. tongue.gif Scare the mod add another 10% for me for putting a hamsap picture. biggrin.gif

By the way, Maureen is being honest and realistic with his statement. Bro Cherroy, read this. tongue.gif (Contender or not? biggrin.gif )

"I think all the top four can win the title. They [Liverpool] have a very young team to develop, the manager is very good, and the fact they don't play Champions League is very important for them," Mourinho said. "Liverpool only plays one match a week and that makes a real difference when it comes to March, April, beginning of May.
"The difference between first and fourth is six points. Everybody is in the race, everybody has an influence in the race, every team is fighting for points, every team is taking points from the big teams.

Read more at http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story...ZrqK3JR0d0pl.99
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Just another mind game ah moo wanna to play. I bet Liverpool won't fall for it like what MC did. Ah Bren was working under Ah Moo last time, he knows what Ah moo is up to, Ah Bren won't fall for that trick.
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Feb 11 2014, 12:47 AM)
What about Kolo Mee? Hate to see him on the bench now since his brilliant display. Actually it's quite a nice problem we are gonna have.

Dagger is coming back as well. 4 good CB with 2 on the bench playing yoyo. That is quite a depth in the squad when there's no injuries tongue.gif
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Yeah agger can also play at LB or Kolo at RB if need more defensive cover. or 3 at the back for some matches.
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QUOTE(yeelong @ Feb 11 2014, 01:08 AM)
Just another mind game ah moo wanna to play. I bet Liverpool won't fall for it like what MC did. Ah Bren was working under Ah Moo last time, he knows what Ah moo is up to, Ah Bren won't fall for that trick.
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Not necessarily. He is actually stating the obvious. I recently posted a match fixtures of Arsenal, Chelsea, Man City, Man Utd, Everton and Spurs.

All busier than us mostly except Everton who is just only slightly busier than us due to League Cup involvement.

He's right. We have a young team but we also have lesser games advantage. We are not favourite of course but we could have a big shout with a bit of luck.

And looking at Arsenal's fixtures, I really dont fancy them unless they got really massive luck.
Chelsea, maybe. But if they keep progressing in UCL, they may be dropping points at home too.
Man City, if they get past Barca, then I favor them for UCL title. And that ambition could cost them at home

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QUOTE(terryfu @ Feb 11 2014, 01:12 AM)
Yeah agger can also play at LB or Kolo at RB if need more defensive cover. or 3 at the back for some matches.
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I really dont fancy 3 CB when Sterling is flying now. 4-3-3 is the way to play Sterling's pace to combine with Dannyboy and Luis.

If we do a 3-5-2, we systematically take Sterling out of the game.
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Feb 11 2014, 01:30 AM)
I really dont fancy 3 CB when Sterling is flying now. 4-3-3 is the way to play Sterling's pace to combine with Dannyboy and Luis.

If we do a 3-5-2, we systematically take Sterling out of the game.
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Not really. He can play wingback but of course probably not as effective as a winger. That said it depends on opposition though I don't foresee BR will go back to this for some time since as 4-3-3 is effective so far. Its good to have this option though.

Anyway if you see the past 3 games, we already have 3 at the back which is our Captain fabulous. He even sits way behind the 2 CBs like a sweeper / libero. Feels more beckenbauer than pirlo to me.
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http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-new...mportant-update

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isit true liv vs fulham ditunda due to train problem?
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isit true liv vs fulham ditunda due to train problem?
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Looks like we'll only know later today at 11 pm.

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QUOTE(chiahau @ Feb 11 2014, 03:29 AM)
ohh wai dah out from official.. tot it was rumor
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2 Fulham players that worry me, Holtby and Richardson. Richardson is fast. if they play counter attack, out fullback need to track back quick. or better if our midfield can deal with him
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2 Fulham players that worry me, Holtby and Richardson. Richardson is fast. if they play counter attack, out fullback need to track back quick. or better if our midfield can deal with him
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Are they faster than Chamberlain, Carzola, Ozil?
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heard about the tube strike on bleacher report app last night. not too sure about the match postpone though
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heard about the tube strike on bleacher report app last night. not too sure about the match postpone though
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Are they faster than Chamberlain, Carzola, Ozil?
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nope. but their tactical which was counter attack can cause us if we are not aware. plus craven cottage field condition is bad
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But we have better personal...........
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The game is postponed? rclxm9.gif

More time to rest and more time to prepare against the Gunners once more.
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cissokho.

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I think Rodgers has done a good job at getting the best out of the player we have by playing them to their strengths and minimising exposure of their weaknesses. Cissokho in particular has been earning some plaudits for his performances over the last 2 or 3 games. Why? When he first signed for us, he was seen as a direct replacement for Enrique, meaning that he had to spend a fair amount of time in the opposition half where I think it's safe to say, he's had a less than successful time. His ball control and passing is average at best and his dribbling is mediocre. Hence why we don't see him venture forward quite as frequently. To compensate for the lack of width, Rodgers has had the front 4 take turns to drift out wide.

If you forget about price tags for awhile (which isn't really Rodgers' fault), the manager has done a pretty good job at getting the best out of each and every player

I do understand that there's still room for improvement especially in the area of achieving some degree of consistency. Having said that, we have to acknowledge that Anfield has become a fortress again, has it not? Whilst there is still some way to go, I see nothing wrong with giving the manager a pat on the back for doing a good job thus far, even if it means eating humble pie. How many honestly thought we would lead the league at any point this season and still be in contention for the league title at this stage of the competition? If Rodgers continues to keep is at arms length despite having no reinforcements in January, it would be an achievement of sorts. By this time last year, we were miles behind and eventually finished over 20 points from the summit. We're not just 6 points away. Improvement much? Still, the manager gets criticised for being naive and tactically inept. I don't see why we can't appreciate what he's done so far even if we think the journey isn't over? He has so far lived up to everything he's said and the positives far outweigh the negatives. The fact that the team has improved is evidence that the manager himself has improved, no? Isn't this what we want to see? Constant improvement?
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QUOTE(hifzil @ Feb 11 2014, 09:28 AM)
cissokho.

did well taming the ox.
head to head with wilshere after tackle on sterling.

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He's no Enrique when it comes to attacking (only goes left) but he's reliable as a backup and he is ready to put his body on the line when it comes to defending from what I've seen so far.
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The game is postponed? rclxm9.gif

More time to rest and more time to prepare against the Gunners once more.
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If match is not postponed, means Fulham has lesser day of rest after Sunday match against MU.
So basically not much different.

The more fear is whether the disruption of Underground traffic could affect the route of Liv bus/travel to there, which may (ormay not) affect the players preparation for them match.

Gunner has CL fixture coming up, it is interesting to see what kind of line-up they will put out for the FA cup match.

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a good thing that I realize, we are no longer depends on Johnson at RB. we have flanno who do a great job. i hope cissokho can be more consistent so flanno can concentrate at RB.
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QUOTE(Max_07s @ Feb 11 2014, 09:54 AM)
a good thing that I realize, we are no longer depends on Johnson at RB. we have flanno who do a great job. i hope cissokho can be more consistent so flanno can concentrate at RB.
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finally cissokho get his recognition, i have been saying for past few games cissokho isn't as bad as some say he is. i think he serve well as a squad player, a reliable backup.
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QUOTE(jacckl @ Feb 11 2014, 10:13 AM)
finally cissokho get his recognition, i have been saying for past few games cissokho isn't as bad as some say he is. i think he serve well as a squad player, a reliable backup.
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Unfortunately, backups are expected to be as good as the starters. It's all about managing expectations.

Just like Allen, he's not a starter for Liverpool of this season, why? Because the team has improve much more than last year. Allen is still a good back up in case of injuries.
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Feb 11 2014, 09:29 AM)
I think Rodgers has done a good job at getting the best out of the player we have by playing them to their strengths and minimising exposure of their weaknesses. Cissokho in particular has been earning some plaudits for his performances over the last 2 or 3 games. Why? When he first signed for us, he was seen as a direct replacement for Enrique, meaning that he had to spend a fair amount of time in the opposition half where I think it's safe to say, he's had a less than successful time. His ball control and passing is average at best and his dribbling is mediocre. Hence why we don't see him venture forward quite as frequently. To compensate for the lack of width, Rodgers has had the front 4 take turns to drift out wide.

If you forget about price tags for awhile (which isn't really Rodgers' fault), the manager has done a pretty good job at getting the best out of each and every player

I do understand that there's still room for improvement especially in the area of achieving some degree of consistency. Having said that, we have to acknowledge that Anfield has become a fortress again, has it not? Whilst there is still some way to go, I see nothing wrong with giving the manager a pat on the back for doing a good job thus far, even if it means eating humble pie. How many honestly thought we would lead the league at any point this season and still be in contention for the league title at this stage of the competition? If Rodgers continues to keep is at arms length despite having no reinforcements in January, it would be an achievement of sorts. By this time last year, we were miles behind and eventually finished over 20 points from the summit. We're not just 6 points away. Improvement much? Still, the manager gets criticised for being naive and tactically inept. I don't see why we can't appreciate what he's done so far even if we think the journey isn't over? He has so far lived up to everything he's said and the positives far outweigh the negatives. The fact that the team has improved is evidence that the manager himself has improved, no? Isn't this what we want to see? Constant improvement?
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He's no Enrique when it comes to attacking (only goes left) but he's reliable as a backup and he is ready to put his body on the line when it comes to defending from what I've seen so far.
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I don't know you guys, but i have noticed the tactical change of using cissoko since the Everton match,( start from 2nd half). BR asked him to stay in his half to concertrate on defence which he did very well until now. And BR use henderson, Couth and sometimes Struidg to fill in the wide left to form the attack from the left side to compensate the lack of attacking option when cissoko staying in his half.
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QUOTE(jacckl @ Feb 11 2014, 10:13 AM)
finally cissokho get his recognition, i have been saying for past few games cissokho isn't as bad as some say he is. i think he serve well as a squad player, a reliable backup.
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just to justify the "some" (including myself) that u mentioned, it really is hard to say that a player is talented based on 1 good game when he is back to his usual clueless performance a few games after that. but good for the lad as his recent performance really proves his doubters (again, not counting myself out of this 1) wrong but i believe that BR need to get the credit as well because the man really knows his players, their strengths, weakness and how to play them like what he did with sterling rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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Fulham are trying to use this tube strike as an excuse to not play us now. We are in a outstanding form and they are depleted after playing 120mins midweek and lost in the FA cup and later on, that tough match against Utd at OT.

"The London club says they will decide on Tuesday at 3pm whether they can host the fixture, citing safety concerns due to stewards and key staff being unable to travel to their stadium."

Lol..so, everyone can use that excuse to skip work that day?
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QUOTE(lerijiso @ Feb 11 2014, 02:48 AM)
Fulham are trying to use this tube strike as an excuse to not play us now. We are in a outstanding form and they are depleted after playing 120mins midweek and lost in the FA cup and later on, that tough match against Utd at OT.

"The London club says they will decide on Tuesday at 3pm whether they can host the fixture, citing safety concerns due to stewards and key staff being unable to travel to their stadium."

Lol..so, everyone can use that excuse to skip work that day?
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QUOTE(jacckl @ Feb 11 2014, 10:13 AM)
finally cissokho get his recognition, i have been saying for past few games cissokho isn't as bad as some say he is. i think he serve well as a squad player, a reliable backup.
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To be fair, he was crap at the beginning but more so on the attacking half of the pitch where he would always lose the ball, fail to control it and misplace passes. This is why it's been said that BR is good at bringing the best out of players, even average ones. It was key that he reduced the burden of getting forward on Cissokho as it was clearly not one of his strengths. His tackling and defending on the other hand have been decent to good.

QUOTE(yeelong @ Feb 11 2014, 10:35 AM)
I don't know you guys, but i have noticed the tactical change of using cissoko since the Everton match,( start from 2nd half). BR asked him to stay in his half to concertrate on defence which he did very well until now. And BR use henderson, Couth and sometimes Struidg to fill in the wide left to form the attack from the left side to compensate the lack of attacking option when cissoko staying in his half.
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I agree which is why I posted pretty much what you've just said. Flanagan gets forward more often and could have bagged a goal against Arsenal had be been more composed and dinked the ball over the keeper instead of trying to play it through his legs. He's already scored a pretty impressive goal this season. He's improved a lot offensively from when I first watched him. Like I said, Brendan knows how to get the best out of his players, even if they are average at best.
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QUOTE(Max_07s @ Feb 11 2014, 11:07 AM)
tube is very important in London. if there is a tube staff strike, it will be massive blow for central London transportation. Fulham is in central London compare to arsenal which locate north London (quite far).
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Indeed. Has anyone watched the movie "Green Street"? It's about West Ham's hooligans. Blokes travel to games in tubes armed with knives, machetes, steel pipes, bats, you name it. There was an encounter between them an supporters of Millwall, a place no one wants to travel to. The Den is known for violent scuffles. Last time we played there, chairs were being tossed about between both sets of supporters. Should watch the movie if you haven't.
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Feb 11 2014, 11:44 AM)
Indeed. Has anyone watched the movie "Green Street"? It's about West Ham's hooligans. Blokes travel to games in tubes armed with knives, machetes, steel pipes, bats, you name it. There was an encounter between them an supporters of Millwall, a place no one wants to travel to. The Den is known for violent scuffles. Last time we played there, chairs were being tossed about between both sets of supporters. Should watch the movie if you haven't.
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just read on bleacher report that Hendo broke his wrist during the AFC match and will be playing against Fulham with the broken wrist, provided that the match is still on.

damn this lad is really something. perhaps skrtel influenced him when he played with a stapled head laugh.gif
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do the wide-man-cross tactic is outdated tactic or need time to adept?

kenny doing this but it cost his job in the end... while villa also using this with exceptional ok atm...
my op, still thinking this tactic is reliable but need time to make it effective
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do the wide-man-cross tactic is outdated tactic or need time to adept?

kenny doing this but it cost his job in the end... while villa also using this with exceptional ok atm...
my op, still thinking this tactic is reliable but need time to make it effective
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Feb 11 2014, 11:42 AM)
To be fair, he was crap at the beginning but more so on the attacking half of the pitch where he would always lose the ball, fail to control it and misplace passes. This is why it's been said that BR is good at bringing the best out of players, even average ones. It was key that he reduced the burden of getting forward on Cissokho as it was clearly not one of his strengths. His tackling and defending on the other hand have been decent to good.
I agree which is why I posted pretty much what you've just said. Flanagan gets forward more often and could have bagged a goal against Arsenal had be been more composed and dinked the ball over the keeper instead of trying to play it through his legs. He's already scored a pretty impressive goal this season. He's improved a lot offensively from when I first watched him. Like I said, Brendan knows how to get the best out of his players, even if they are average at best.
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Elijah Wood was lel...
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QUOTE(wadefak @ Feb 11 2014, 11:59 AM)
just read on bleacher report that Hendo broke his wrist during the AFC match and will be playing against Fulham with the broken wrist, provided that the match is still on.

damn this lad is really something. perhaps skrtel influenced him when he played with a stapled head laugh.gif
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I think players these days are a little spoilt la. I mean you don't play football with your wrist wat. It's probably a small bone, I don't know. Former Red, Gerry Bryne once broke his collarbone in the 3rd minute of a match and this was in 1965 when substitutes were not permitted by authorities. Bloke had to play through the agonising pain but it didn't stop him from making his trademark marauding runs forward from left back. Breaking your collarbone is painful man because unlike your wrist, you can't put it in a cast or splint and almost every movement involves your neck.

Men were built of sterner stuff back then. Someone should tell Hendo it isn't his wrist, it's Liverpool's wrist! smile.gif

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QUOTE(skeleton202 @ Feb 11 2014, 12:11 PM)
do the wide-man-cross tactic is outdated tactic or need time to adept?

kenny doing this but it cost his job in the end... while villa also using this with exceptional ok atm...
my op, still thinking this tactic is reliable but need time to make it effective
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I won't say it's outdated but it's an old tactic. Especially effective back in the day's of the "big man - small man" combination. Who did Kenny have to aim for? Suarez? The problem with crosses is that you're effectively relinquishing possession most of the time which is why managers these days, prefer short passes I believe. Unlike back in the days of giant centreforwards, centrebacks these days are usually significantly bigger and taller than forwards.

In my opinion, playing a lot of crosses is a matter of quantity over quality. You get to create more chances than you would if you tried to break down defences with a less direct approach but the conversion ratio is generally not as high.

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QUOTE(skeleton202 @ Feb 11 2014, 12:11 PM)
do the wide-man-cross tactic is outdated tactic or need time to adept?

kenny doing this but it cost his job in the end... while villa also using this with exceptional ok atm...
my op, still thinking this tactic is reliable but need time to make it effective
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Don't think it's outdated. It's the execution that matters the most. The mancs under Ferguson is a good example of a great crossing team. Rapid build up and early driven cross. Insanely hard to defend against and it would often result in some crazy own goals because the crosses came in so quickly and so hard that it would ricochet into the net.

But take the Fulham game as an example of a poor crossing play. Slow and ponderous build up that allowed Fulham all the time in the world to get behind the ball and control the space. You would think Moyes would try something different given that Rene was part of the manc setup that perfected the crossing play.
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Exactly which is why I never really get into discussions involving transfers because...

a) I am not really familiar with players outside of England. This isn't to say I'm not aware of players who play in the World Cup, I just don't know enough to comment on whether or not they'll fit the team.

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b) I'm more focused on how the team is playing as a unit regardless of personnel. This is why I've become a fan of Rodgers. He doesn't talk as much about players as he does about how he wants them to play. He articulates how he wants to team to play very clearly and it's beginning to pay dividends. I'm not just saying this because we've just trounced Arsenal. I'm saying this because we're currently in fourth, and only 6 points off the top despite having a squad that can be considered inferior on paper.
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QUOTE(skeleton202 @ Feb 11 2014, 12:11 PM)
do the wide-man-cross tactic is outdated tactic or need time to adept?

kenny doing this but it cost his job in the end... while villa also using this with exceptional ok atm...
my op, still thinking this tactic is reliable but need time to make it effective
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It depends on the team tactical mode, but I do know if you give a couple of good wingers to Stoke City, they will score a lot of goals.
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QUOTE(wadefak @ Feb 11 2014, 11:59 AM)
just read on bleacher report that Hendo broke his wrist during the AFC match and will be playing against Fulham with the broken wrist, provided that the match is still on.

damn this lad is really something. perhaps skrtel influenced him when he played with a stapled head laugh.gif
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Ok Fulham players will target his wrist during the match.... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Feb 11 2014, 12:26 PM)
Exactly which is why I never really get into discussions involving transfers because...

a) I am not really familiar with players outside of England. This isn't to say I'm not aware of players who play in the World Cup, I just don't know enough to comment on whether or not they'll fit the team.

AND

b) I'm more focused on how the team is playing as a unit regardless of personnel. This is why I've become a fan of Rodgers. He doesn't talk as much about players as he does about how he wants them to play. He articulates how he wants to team to play very clearly and it's beginning to pay dividends. I'm not just saying this because we've just trounced Arsenal. I'm saying this because we're currently in fourth, and only 6 points off the top despite having a squad that can be considered inferior on paper.
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BR has that wit that most Liverpool bosses have.

The way he interacts with the press, the players, the fans.

I also like the way he celebrates goals - doing the Shankly salute of sorts.
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Feb 11 2014, 12:23 PM)
I think players these days are a little spoilt la. I mean you don't play football with your wrist wat. It's probably a small bone, I don't know. Former Red, Gerry Bryne once broke his collarbone in the 3rd minute of a match and this was in 1965 when substitutes were not permitted by authorities. Bloke had to play through the agonising pain but it didn't stop him from making his trademark marauding runs forward from left back. Breaking your collarbone is painful man because unlike your wrist, you can't put it in a cast or splint and almost every movement involves your neck.

Men were built of sterner stuff back then. Someone should tell Hendo it isn't his wrist, it's Liverpool's wrist!  smile.gif


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its not like the lad complained, he never said a word about it i guess the physicians found out because the article also mentions that it is uncertain how and when the lad broke his wrist icon_rolleyes.gif

on a side note, arsenal confirms that the game is still on despite the tube strike. i guess the strike should impact them more since Emirates stadium is right next to the tube station. really hope that the FA has a say on the match delay issue.
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You know when i was watching our demolition job on Arsenal and the camera pans to BR showing our manager looking extremely animated - screaming and clapping on the touchline - urging his players to keep turning on the pressure. All the while his counterpart Wenger sat motionless. This was when we were already leading 4-0. He was absolutely relentless and in that very instance, he reminded me of Rafa.

On retrospect, I've realized that I've never moved on from Rafa and that's even after we were smashing the likes of Spurs and Everton. But something has changed during this match, and for the first time in a long long time, I can truly say that I've finally moved on and not because BR is a better man or his football is a thing of beauty or whatever, but like in the days of Rafa, i now know it in my heart that the club is under safe hands with BR at the helm. And that we have ourselves a true visionary, a football genius and a leader that we can depend on.

He will make mistakes and there will be setbacks along the way, but I think we on the verge of something special here.

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The game postponement could be good for us.We need a win in FA Cup and Emirates is not an easy venue. A whole week rest could do well for the team given BR has been lining up the same team for 3 games. A rest is a bonus. We can face fulham later.
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Feb 11 2014, 01:50 PM)
The game postponement could be good for us.We need a win in FA Cup and Emirates is not an easy venue. A whole week rest could do well for the team given BR has been lining up the same team for 3 games. A rest is a bonus. We can face fulham later.
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should be good for everyone i guess...

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Looks like everybody's still buzzing from the Arsenal demolition. Here's something for you guys to think about (Won't spoil what it's about, just read whenever you have the time smile.gif ):
http://www.theanfieldwrap.com/2014/02/go-f...h-and-multiply/

PS: Decided to convert my signature into a tracker for our race to fourth. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Feb 11 2014, 01:50 PM)
The game postponement could be good for us.We need a win in FA Cup and Emirates is not an easy venue. A whole week rest could do well for the team given BR has been lining up the same team for 3 games. A rest is a bonus. We can face fulham later.
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Nah we should just tell them to forfeit and we get the full 3 points. Tube or not, there are other means of transportation. I don't like underhand tactics. Be it from BR or JM or Fulham. And the postponement can potentially backfire on us . When will it be ? Will it suits Fulham or us ?
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...an-Rodgers.html

A good read on hendo if you have time
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QUOTE(hfi @ Feb 11 2014, 01:40 PM)
You know when i was watching our demolition job on Arsenal and the camera pans to BR showing our manager looking extremely animated - screaming and clapping on the touchline - urging his players to keep turning on the pressure. All the while his counterpart Wenger sat motionless. This was when we were already leading 4-0. He was absolutely relentless and in that very instance, he reminded me of Rafa.

On retrospect, I've realized that I've never moved on from Rafa and that's even after we were smashing the likes of Spurs and Everton. But something has changed during this match, and for the first time in a long long time, I can truly say that I've finally moved on and not because BR is a better man or his football is a thing of beauty or whatever, but like in the days of Rafa, i now know it in my heart that the club is under safe hands with BR at the helm. And that we have ourselves a true visionary,  a football genius and a leader that we can depend on.

He will make mistakes and there will be setbacks along the way, but I think we on the verge of something special here.
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That we are, that we are.

Though back in 08/09, I was hoping that we are on the verge of something as well. Rafa could have won us the league but a few missteps he made cost us and I hope BR learns from some of that history which is not to pull out any files / dirt on other managers or publicly mentioned replacing a world class midfielder. I really doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif when this thing happened.

QUOTE(solstice818 @ Feb 11 2014, 01:50 PM)
The game postponement could be good for us.We need a win in FA Cup and Emirates is not an easy venue. A whole week rest could do well for the team given BR has been lining up the same team for 3 games. A rest is a bonus. We can face fulham later.
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Postponed or no, we should win them. I prefer to have the game because of the argument that when we're winning, we should continue playing as the momentum is there even if the last two matches following wins end up in draws.
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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Feb 11 2014, 12:54 PM)
BR has that wit that most Liverpool bosses have.

The way he interacts with the press, the players, the fans.

I also like the way he celebrates goals - doing the Shankly salute of sorts.
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This one not bad

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"At full speed, he clocked 20.5mph"

That's FAST! Never knew he could sprint that quickly
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QUOTE(genjo @ Feb 11 2014, 02:10 PM)
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dont la.. i kesian moyes..

I lol'ed like fucuk when Rooney when to his knees and celebrated...

but I pity moyes, go to a club where glory > all.

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QUOTE(8sg9ft @ Feb 11 2014, 02:15 PM)
"At full speed, he clocked 20.5mph"

That's FAST! Never knew he could sprint that quickly
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Sorry but who run that fast 20.5mph or 20.5km/h? With or without the ball?
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QUOTE(wadefak @ Feb 11 2014, 01:29 PM)
its not like the lad complained, he never said a word about it i guess the physicians found out because the article also mentions that it is uncertain how and when the lad broke his wrist icon_rolleyes.gif
I know mate, I'm just taking the piss. I like Hendo if it wasn't obvious enough. I just think that in general, we are far to forgiving when it comes to injuries because like I said, players used to play with broken bones back in the day. Gerry Bryne's example was a pretty good one because he was in excruciating pain the whole game and he never asked to come off.

QUOTE(hfi @ Feb 11 2014, 01:40 PM)
You know when i was watching our demolition job on Arsenal and the camera pans to BR showing our manager looking extremely animated - screaming and clapping on the touchline - urging his players to keep turning on the pressure. All the while his counterpart Wenger sat motionless. This was when we were already leading 4-0. He was absolutely relentless and in that very instance, he reminded me of Rafa.

On retrospect, I've realized that I've never moved on from Rafa and that's even after we were smashing the likes of Spurs and Everton. But something has changed during this match, and for the first time in a long long time, I can truly say that I've finally moved on and not because BR is a better man or his football is a thing of beauty or whatever, but like in the days of Rafa, i now know it in my heart that the club is under safe hands with BR at the helm. And that we have ourselves a true visionary,  a football genius and a leader that we can depend on.

He will make mistakes and there will be setbacks along the way, but I think we on the verge of something special here.
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Which is why I like this quote of his.

“I will leave no stone unturned in my quest – and that quest will be relentless.”

It's also why I feel perplexed whenever someone never has a nice thing to say about him. I think he's done enough to earn our trust at the very least. He's lived up to his words and you can see that he's learning and absorbing all the time. What more does he have to do?
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QUOTE(chenwfng @ Feb 11 2014, 02:24 PM)
Sorry but who run that fast 20.5mph or 20.5km/h? With or without the ball?
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Read the article on Henderson that was posted. It was in reference to his top speed against Arsenal. The article pointed out that he is a workhorse who covers more ground than anyone. In the game against Arsenal, that was the top speed he achieved and he was second only to Gibbs and Sturridge but he covered them most ground.
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Feb 11 2014, 02:46 PM)
Read the article on Henderson that was posted. It was in reference to his top speed against Arsenal. The article pointed out that he is a workhorse who covers more ground than anyone. In the game against Arsenal, that was the top speed he achieved and he was second only to Gibbs and Sturridge but he covered them most ground.
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that's the kind of stats that Gerrard showed during his prime brows.gif
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Feb 11 2014, 02:44 PM)
I know mate, I'm just taking the piss. I like Hendo if it wasn't obvious enough. I just think that in general, we are far to forgiving when it comes to injuries because like I said, players used to play with broken bones back in the day. Gerry Bryne's example was a pretty good one because he was in excruciating pain the whole game and he never asked to come off.
Which is why I like this quote of his.

“I will leave no stone unturned in my quest – and that quest will be relentless.”

It's also why I feel perplexed whenever someone never has a nice thing to say about him. I think he's done enough to earn our trust at the very least. He's lived up to his words and you can see that he's learning and absorbing all the time. What more does he have to do?
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“I will leave no stone unturned in my quest – and that quest will be relentless.”

It's also why I feel perplexed whenever someone never has a nice thing to say about him. I think he's done enough to earn our trust at the very least. He's lived up to his words and you can see that he's learning and absorbing all the time. What more does he have to do?
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That's a great quote and has the potential to be one of the most poignant Liverpool quotes of all times. I think for some people BR has to win trophies before they can fully believe he's a genuine winner. It's may also because he's a rather young manager who seems to be evolving on each passing day. He's not a finished product - always experimenting, always pushing the boundaries. That ever changing nature of him makes him some sort of an enigma - which can be easily misunderstood for many different things.
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Looks like everybody's still buzzing from the Arsenal demolition. Here's something for you guys to think about (Won't spoil what it's about, just read whenever you have the time smile.gif ):
http://www.theanfieldwrap.com/2014/02/go-f...h-and-multiply/

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That's a great quote and has the potential to be one of the most poignant Liverpool quotes of all times. I think for some people BR has to win trophies before they can fully believe he's a genuine winner. It's may also because he's a rather young manager who seems to be evolving on each passing day. He's not a finished product - always experimenting, always pushing the boundaries. That ever changing nature of him makes him some sort of an enigma - which can be easily misunderstood for many different things.
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Well Kenny did get us into 2 finals, winning one of them.

Here's the thing. Trophies are destinations we want to go to. The journey however does matter. There's nothing wrong with acknowledging the milestones along the way. As it stands, his attitude has been exemplary and he is completely dedicated to his job. One might say that those who subscribe to "The Liverpool Way", would give him props for that at least. It is after all what's supposed to set us apart given the number of proclamations that we're different and better than I've seen.
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There are all sort of mind blowing comments about BR, from his lack of tactical knowhow, slow to make impact substitution, poor signings, to poor media representation, you name it, u got it....but fans from other clubs are singing praises of the work done by BR...being a silent observer in Man U , Man C and Arsnal, most of them are afraid of meeting Liverpool nowadays....Even The Star predicts more wins for Reds than back in those days...And how about the pundits - Shebby, Abas, Boateng and even Corkhill (yeah, bias) marveled at the intricacies of our passing and pressing game. Having said this, we are still improving as we are not chasing on few fronts and no European football, perhaps a better time to judge BR is how he manage European football if we qualify for UCL...
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Read the article on Henderson that was posted. It was in reference to his top speed against Arsenal. The article pointed out that he is a workhorse who covers more ground than anyone. In the game against Arsenal, that was the top speed he achieved and he was second only to Gibbs and Sturridge but he covered them most ground.
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Apparently Usian Bolt's 23.35mph. Could Hendo really be that fast? O.o
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QUOTE(markblurberry @ Feb 11 2014, 03:19 PM)
There are all sort of mind blowing comments about BR, from his lack of tactical knowhow, slow to make impact substitution, poor signings, to poor media representation, you name it, u got it....but fans from other clubs are singing praises of the work done by BR...being a silent observer in Man U , Man C and Arsnal, most of them are afraid of meeting Liverpool nowadays....Even The Star predicts more wins for Reds than back in those days...And how about the pundits - Shebby, Abas, Boateng and even Corkhill (yeah, bias) marveled at the intricacies of our passing and pressing game. Having said this, we are still improving as we are not chasing on few fronts and no European football, perhaps a better time to judge BR is how he manage European football if we qualify for UCL...
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Apparently Usian Bolt's 23.35mph. Could Hendo really be that fast? O.o
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Well Kenny did get us into 2 finals, winning one of them.

Here's the thing. Trophies are destinations we want to go to. The journey however does matter. There's nothing wrong with acknowledging the milestones along the way. As it stands, his attitude has been exemplary and he is completely dedicated to his job. One might say that those who subscribe to "The Liverpool Way", would give him props for that at least. It is after all what's supposed to set us apart given the number of proclamations that we're different and better than I've seen.
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There were people who doubted Kenny too back then. People will always have their reasons to dislike something. We've been through a turbulent period where we nearly near rock bottom. It can be tough on some people and some may not recover as quickly as others. Or maybe some people just dislike for dislike sake and rather watch the whole world burns. We can't please everyone.
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Apparently Usian Bolt's 23.35mph. Could Hendo really be that fast? O.o
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Dude he was fast. Even i didn't think he was that fast. Remember that play when Countiho weaved through 2-3 Arsenal players before setting up a beautiful weighted pass to Hendo ? He started his run from our half and outpaced Gibbs. Just couldn't finish it.
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QUOTE(hfi @ Feb 11 2014, 03:31 PM)
There were people who doubted Kenny too back then. People will always have their reasons to dislike something. We've been through a turbulent period where we nearly near rock bottom. It can be tough on some people and some may not recover as quickly as others. Or maybe some people just dislike for dislike sake and rather watch the whole world burns. We can't please everyone.
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As much as I admire King Kenny, Brendan Rodgers has done a much better job at articulating his vision for the club. Kenny would have reverted to what he knew. He was no longer a student of the game. Rodgers still is which explains why this season's team is playing different football from last season's despite having the same players on the pitch. Rodgers was brought in for the future and it's obvious why. We cannot brush aside the limitations he's having to work under as excuses. Having to sign young players hence increasing the risk of buying a lemon, having to offload players at the same time to control the wage bill, etc. Sure there are consistency issues but he hasn't had the luxury of buying world class talent like the teams around us now have had. He doesn't have the luxury of overspending on players. I mean Dempsey's fee was not a huge one but he has to live by some really strict guidelines. I think he's doing a pretty good job so far in light of all of this.

QUOTE(hfi @ Feb 11 2014, 03:35 PM)
Dude he was fast. Even i didn't think he was that fast. Remember that play when Countiho weaved through 2-3 Arsenal players before setting up a beautiful weighted pass to Hendo ? He started his run from our half and outpaced Gibbs. Just couldn't finish it.
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Dude he was fast. Even i didn't think he was that fast. Remember that play when Countiho weaved through 2-3 Arsenal players before setting up a beautiful weighted pass to Hendo ? He started his run from our half and outpaced Gibbs. Just couldn't finish it.
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As much as I admire King Kenny, Brendan Rodgers has done a much better job at articulating his vision for the club. Kenny would have reverted to what he knew. He was no longer a student of the game. Rodgers still is which explains why this season's team is playing different football from last season's despite having the same players on the pitch. Rodgers was brought in for the future and it's obvious why. We cannot brush aside the limitations he's having to work under as excuses. Having to sign young players hence increasing the risk of buying a lemon, having to offload players at the same time to control the wage bill, etc. Sure there are consistency issues but he hasn't had the luxury of buying world class talent like the teams around us now have had. He doesn't have the luxury of overspending on players. I mean Dempsey's fee was not a huge one but he has to live by some really strict guidelines. I think he's doing a pretty good job so far in light of all of this.
I don't get why some people made such a big deal out of Fergie's comment that Henderson runs funny. I mean so did Michael Johnson and he is a world record holder.
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Yeah i agree about Kenny. Was a great manager and an even better player but has lost touch with the modern game. I'll admit that i was very bitter at his sacking but i think it was mostly at the the way it was handled. BR has definitely done exceptionally well at the moment. It's not even up for debate and if you can't find joy in that then well ... less said the better.

As for Fergie, does he ever says nice things about us ? People lap it up because they don't know any better. How's his chosen one doing by the way ? I'm sure even the most loyal manc fan will have problems believing that now. It will be funny if Hendo plays a storming game against the mancs later. Nothing like a weird running midfielder outclassing his beloved manc team.
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Fergie-son says Hendo don't know how to run!    wink.gif
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It is more like he dunno how to shoot haha.. he has pace man, just need confident infront of goal..

Come to think of it.. in the summer we could save up money on DMC, Gerrard/Lucas.. Suprisingly Gerrard at that age can still improve and adapt.

Summer buy I think a left winger or right winger.. since Couts is going to converted to middle. And also our wing backs
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It is more like he dunno how to shoot haha.. he has pace man, just need confident infront of goal..

Come to think of it.. in the summer we could save up money on DMC, Gerrard/Lucas.. Suprisingly Gerrard at that age can still improve and adapt.

Summer buy I think a left winger or right winger.. since Couts is going to converted to middle. And also our wing backs
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Apparently Usian Bolt's 23.35mph. Could Hendo really be that fast? O.o
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As for Fergie, does he ever says nice things about us ? People lap it up because they don't know any better. How's his chosen one doing by the way ? I'm sure even the most loyal manc fan will have problems believing that now. It will be funny if Hendo plays a storming game against the mancs later. Nothing like a weird running midfielder outclassing his beloved manc team.
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Suarez dived in front of Moyes after he scored. Maybe Hendo will run funny in front of Fergie (who will probably warm and snug in the VIP section) if he scores.
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Feb 11 2014, 03:29 PM)
Seems plausible. Didn't say how long he needed to reach that speed though. I'm sure Bolt would attain those speeds sooner than Hendo.
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Dude he was fast. Even i didn't think he was that fast. Remember that play when Countiho weaved through 2-3 Arsenal players before setting up a beautiful weighted pass to Hendo ? He started his run from our half and outpaced Gibbs. Just couldn't finish it.
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Bolt probably could do it for more than 150m. Maybe Hendo could only do it on a 50m dash.  laugh.gif
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http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/soccer/m...ticle-1.1460078

Then again the leap between 20mph to 25mph is huge, so maybe it shouldn't come as a surprise.
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As for Fergie, does he ever says nice things about us ?
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He said Rafa's tactical change at half time in replacing Kewell with Hamann made all the difference to our 6 minutes crazy goals galore come back tongue.gif

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will BR using same strategy when facing Arsenal again on FA match?
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Feb 11 2014, 04:36 PM)
Yup. He praised us for our victory in UCL 2005  rclxm9.gif

He said Rafa's tactical change at half time in replacing Kewell with Hamann made all the difference to our 6 minutes crazy goals galore come back tongue.gif

But other than that, I dont remember him praising us much.
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Good read this. Gives you an idea of how much of a perfectionist Rodgers is and it does reinforce his statement that his pursuit will "be relentless".

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/sport/football/...-fc-can-6693672?

As it stands, we've achieved our highest goals tally after 25 games of any top flight season. That's some record considering the great teams we've had in the past.
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Nice one. If Forlan had revealed this earlier, Fergie would have added him to his hit list in his biography.

http://hereisthecity.com/en-gb/2014/02/10/...join-liverpool/
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Interesting point to note. Michael Oliver was the referee for our game against Arsenal and the bloke is only 28.
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QUOTE(terryfu @ Feb 11 2014, 06:26 PM)
You heard it from me first (and probably millions of others who are feeling it quietly). I would absolutely love it when we knock MU from their F**king perch before SAF passes on.
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QUOTE(ik3da @ Feb 11 2014, 06:33 PM)
I wanted to feel the same but it is really just not the same to knock Ferguson-less MU off the perch. I will still love the title back in our cabinet but sadly Ferguson has the last laugh whether I/we like it or not. Kinda miss having the grumpy old guy grumbling than to see Moyes sitting sadly and almost (if not entirely) clueless on the deck.
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Why would he have last laugh if he still around when we overtake them? SAF may not feel the same also coz Kenny was not on the hot seat and we know how both their relations go.

Anyway likely one of his players might say, "Liverpool never knock us off our perch, that was David Moyes".

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Fulham ready to postpone Premier League match against Liverpool due to London Underground strike. Fulham set 3pm deadline on Tuesday to make final decision
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Why would he have last laugh if he still around when we overtake them? SAF may not feel the same also coz Kenny was not on the hot seat and we know how both their relations go.

Anyway likely one of his players might say, "Liverpool never knock us off our perch, that was David Moyes".
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Tube strike has been suspended. Game on!
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Confirmed? They said Fulham will only make decision later. Gosh
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Fulham have lost 12 of their last 16 Barclays Premier League games at Craven Cottage (W3 D1 L12).

Liverpool have kept just one clean sheet in their last 11 Barclays Premier League away games.

Brendan Rodgers' side have won just two of their last nine Premier League away trips (W2 D3 L4).

Luis Suarez has scored four goals in four Premier League games against Fulham.

Daniel Sturridge scored his only previous Premier League hat-trick in Liverpool's last trip to Craven Cottage to play Fulham (3-1 in May 2013).

Darren Bent has scored five Premier League goals against Liverpool, perhaps the most famous in a 1-0 win while playing for Sunderland (Oct 2009), where his shot was deflected into the net by a beach ball thrown from the crowd.

Darren Bent has now equalled his Premier League goal tally from 2012-13 (3), but all three of his goals this season have come after coming on as a substitute.

Liverpool have scored a league-high 10 goals from headers this season, but only two of these have come in away matches (both by Daniel Sturridge).

No side has conceded a higher number (15) or proportion (27%) of their goals from outside the box this season in the Premier League than Fulham.

The Reds have scored more first half goals in the Premier League this season (42) than 16 of the other 19 teams in the league have in total.
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Fulham have lost 12 of their last 16 Barclays Premier League games at Craven Cottage (W3 D1 L12).

Liverpool have kept just one clean sheet in their last 11 Barclays Premier League away games.

Brendan Rodgers' side have won just two of their last nine Premier League away trips (W2 D3 L4).

Luis Suarez has scored four goals in four Premier League games against Fulham.

Daniel Sturridge scored his only previous Premier League hat-trick in Liverpool's last trip to Craven Cottage to play Fulham (3-1 in May 2013).

Darren Bent has scored five Premier League goals against Liverpool, perhaps the most famous in a 1-0 win while playing for Sunderland (Oct 2009), where his shot was deflected into the net by a beach ball thrown from the crowd.

Darren Bent has now equalled his Premier League goal tally from 2012-13 (3), but all three of his goals this season have come after coming on as a substitute.

Liverpool have scored a league-high 10 goals from headers this season, but only two of these have come in away matches (both by Daniel Sturridge).

No side has conceded a higher number (15) or proportion (27%) of their goals from outside the box this season in the Premier League than Fulham.

The Reds have scored more first half goals in the Premier League this season (42) than 16 of the other 19 teams in the league have in total.
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Feb 11 2014, 08:59 PM)
Sleep Kopites, Sleep. Need to curse Chelsea later. Goodnight. See you at 4 tongue.gif
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cant believe ur actually gonna bother waking up for it.
u secretly rooting for torres to score rightttt tongue.gif
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post Feb 11 2014, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Feb 11 2014, 09:04 PM)
cant believe ur actually gonna bother waking up for it.
u secretly rooting for torres to score rightttt tongue.gif
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I guess he is still obsess with Salah.. tongue.gif
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post Feb 11 2014, 10:21 PM

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fulham posponed but why not arsenal too?

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post Feb 11 2014, 10:27 PM

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Who says Fulham postponed ? They already announced it's on schedule tomorrow.
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post Feb 11 2014, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(hfi @ Feb 11 2014, 10:27 PM)
Who says Fulham postponed ? They already announced it's on schedule tomorrow.
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when liverpool match actually?

i already forget what date.. isit tonite early morning or tomorrrow early morning?
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post Feb 11 2014, 10:48 PM

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post Feb 11 2014, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(skeleton202 @ Feb 11 2014, 10:36 PM)
when liverpool match actually?

i already forget what date.. isit tonite early morning or tomorrrow early morning?
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why u think dillon sleeping now... tongue.gif

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