haha yea. for me it's just more on my own preference on having a funner car to ride. and as i mentioned it is probably not practical for daily rides just from the higher FC alone.

in fact as a layman observation, if the rpm can hold much better after lifting my foot off the accelerator completely, that definitely benefits on FC as i don't have to re-accelerate again

actually i think most of you guys also older than i am so i don't really mind. maybe only nzh younger lol!

mivec always open la, open little or big only, that open term must be from the 90's hehehe

power dun come for free ..

to me is it worthit to spend time on it ..
Honestly .. 128bhp vs 130 bhp .. u can barely feel it ..

u can play around with the throttle response thou .. that is about it ..
compare the stock map and the one i did .. mostly is about RESPONSE .. yeah .. added hp as well .. but not really keen on it.. how often 7k rpm rite ?
i mostly below 4k rpm also .. (ish.. lately myvi i tekan lagi banyak.. coz the car not moving .. lolz)



the red box i draw is the seatbelt driver switch ..
so when u no wear the belt .. the switch actually connected "at the ON Position"
means the speedometer seatbelt warning line connected to GROUND .. completed the circuit .. hence the DING DDING DING DING mari jo ..
so when u wear the seatbelt .. the thing is at "OFF" position .. @ open circuit ..
hence u cabut the wire underneath = OPEN circuit

older mivec cam lifts la lol

yeah actually i'm not that keen on end hp also, though still curious which one actually yields more.

it's more towards how the stock mivec the rpm can rise insanely fast while the new mapping it's like my xw20 EO suddenly got swapped to xw40
ultimately i still get similar speedometer speeds, however i just can't seem to get that insane torque pull/acceleration/rpm climb as before. (but of course, at the expense of stupidly high FC lolz)

pretty much as you said la, power dun come for free.

and thanks for the wiring diagram, tonight con9lan7firm chabutz

again i mention to u jo .. u juz dun belip only .. easy tonight u mari TT .. kasih stock map .. see which one u more happy ..

I quickily cabut after place in stock map

stock cannot la, the ignition timing and afr like crap lol and i prefer to see dyno figures to eliminate butt dyno ma

u slapping ur own face when typing this ??

Stock -> free rev faster
Remap -> not easy to rev jo ..

then u says Stock ignition timing n afr no good ..

u okay or not ?
makan jo ubat belum?

changing the mivec settings wont feel much .. its juz help more on the FC instead

the stock mivec timing lar aduh

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well i think it could help, but again, id rather have a more objective approach to this than just butt dyno la

so wait till got money arrange dyno tuning lo

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Feb 21 2014, 04:11 PM

aduh ... aduh ...
mivec timing u dun feel much .. its meant for fuel saving ... u get it or not ?
i can put back the ori mivec for u if u want ..
but i dun think u understand what u saying .. coz u were saying the response for stock map is faster compared to remap jo .. but u says although response faster but less power .. lolz

hmm hard to describe/explain over text

but the gist is that the rpms do climb faster (although again, falls faster if you don't maintain acceleration)
considering i don't drive the car a whole lot, i can wait until i get enough money for a dyno tune session la, no rush in this lol.

i wonder if nzh0920 can explain better since he driven my car (and likewise i've driven his)
the advanced throttle is

u dun get what i mean ..

im telling u .. ur feeling is wrong .. because the ori map LAGS .. hence u tekan jo it wont go up immediate .. but when it goes .. it like sudden jump coz its not IMMEDIATE ..

im telling u .. after remap .. the feeling is almost immediate response jo .. thats why ur LEG will tekan accordingly .. not like previously .. tekan jo .. tala effect .. tekan more .. so it suddenly jump ..

thats why i ask u put back ori map try .. then u blame on the mivec settings ..


by saying ori map is more rev frenly but no power ... remap jo more power but not rev frenly .. is like telling ppl .. i put sugar the coffee feel sour .. i put salt the coffee felt sweet ...

u get wat i mean bo ?

and we did testing on mivec before d .. last time when we are on the very early stage of mapping.. changing the mivec setting u wont feel anything .. almost nothing .. its more like for the FC stuff .. not power or response.. and the mivec setting i gave was a slightly touch up 2008 (jay most loved) lancer GT original mivec setting ..

So your coffee still taste bitter after putting salt ma ?

laugh 9 4 me...

Not meh>?
i remember he extreme engine the AFS for quite some time .. till no sound no gas ...
then i remember the halfcut shop told me he go buy the autoleveling .. change few times says ppl barang rosak

it's called SinKaLingam

I think you need face to face with him and explain lor. He read here also he will not understand what you talking about lor although I guess most of us here understand what you are explaining.

This maybe a special class for him

Don't put salt on people's wound la..

salt felt sweet ge wor ..

What the sign telling ? It never goes off now !!!

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me think u remap way too early jor without knowing much ori characteristic . I had sifu remap mine after owning it about 6 month with over 17k mileage on it... Instantly can feel the difference. Buttdyno chart show significant improvement during bumper to bumper jam, no more sluggish 1st gear. stock map, 1st gear is like dragging few cows on ya rear boot also it got those so call power surge / 'mivec kick in yo"/ kuat kuat tarik feel @ 3k rpm or so.. after remap those feel not apparent liou... however can feel power climb much more smoother across the rpm especially during over taking.


chabutz

well i did mentioned it *could* be butt dyno la...
because i tekan jor, jump faster than current map, then 4k rpm LAGI jump lol...

on the dyno machine, on low gear (during calibration) the torque went over 200++ rofl
iinm it went as high as 240 or so, dunno cock eye or what la.
so it was pretty fun being pushed into the seat while now can't get it jor, hence a bit anal on the subject la which i apologize again/in advance

i'm inclined towards (or blaming) on the mivec settings because advancing the ignition timing/leaning the afr slightly (as you've shown me) would only mean positive results and should not affect the engine characteristics much. and the only thing left seems to be mivec timing which makes sense considering minimum 4 basic modes (again based on the timing mappings etc)

i'm not sure if the ultra light viscosity EO would make the MIVEC characteristics more apparent since it's also using oil pressure to control the rotors and what not right? so maybe as the oil moves faster, the changing of mivec timing (eg: different engine speed/load) is more apparent which could be what i experienced (on stock) and experiencing on remapped?
have there been anyone using ultra light viscosity before me and played with the mivec timing mappings?

again, i could be very wrong in this since i am really new in this while you folks have many years of experience ahead of me however i still firmly believe things can be further improved (or rather, tailored to my preference) and i am willing to bear with the consequences it may hold (eg: piss poor FC i am getting prior to remap) since i do not drive the car daily lol (as mentioned, it just sits at home until night job/weekend and just let stray cats paint cat paw car decals all over it only )

and yes i fully understand your analogy here which also puts me in a difficult position to explain la
btw you coming TT mou? if you got we can exchange salty coffee la (i'll be a bit late la, maybe 1-2 am? what's the latest hours you can stay up till?)