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 LYN Proton INSPIRA Owners and Fans Thread V62!, Haven't die yet!!!

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post Feb 10 2014, 05:50 AM

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QUOTE(nicotine @ Feb 7 2014, 06:22 PM)
oh no need take it out, you can roughly measure it, you should be able to see the pad thickness without taking out ya wheels.
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http://twitpic.com/dv0fp5

looks like a good 5+mm while maybe just less than a cm or so?

can see the edges of the rim getting covered in brake dust already despite i just detailed my car a week ago (which of course include rim cleaning)
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post Feb 10 2014, 06:24 AM

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QUOTE(wrb7878 @ Feb 9 2014, 10:42 PM)
Hi All,

Can i ask abt mivec engine? When i stop at traffic light the press the pedal the RPM increase from 1K to 3K++ but the power come very slow?

It this is normal for mivel CVT?
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that is called rubber band effect..famous among cvts. smile.gif
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post Feb 10 2014, 07:11 AM

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QUOTE(SothysSaleShop @ Feb 10 2014, 12:30 AM)
he meant u should buy lancer sportsback which is a 2.4L car if you want more power
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OIC..i come to this Mitsubishi brand bcos of new ASX 4WD...
i just wonder why my current honday city idsi cvt is better pick up performance than mivec 2.0. hmm.gif
My city response is very good at traffic light, RPM from 1K to <2K speed 30-50 can give me better pick up from stop.
While i test drive ASX same minyak press, RPM over 3K then response is very slow...feel car cannot move then need press more minyak again.
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post Feb 10 2014, 07:12 AM

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QUOTE(ckk125 @ Feb 10 2014, 06:24 AM)
that is called rubber band effect..famous among cvts.  smile.gif
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Morning bro.
I dont know what is rubber band effect....safe fuel efficient? my Honda city idsi is CVT too rite?
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post Feb 10 2014, 07:14 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Feb 9 2014, 11:01 PM)
i don't think it's slow at all. even the dyno graphs proven that our torque comes in astonishingly early.
i can't say the same for CVT, but the amount of wheel spins i experience even at second gear is just absurd whenever i want to drag the car/go for spirited driving which still scares me even to this day sweat.gif

many would claim for a remap first, or extractor change, however i've yet to do any of those and it constantly kept me curious/wanting to find out how would it be once i have done them (hey LCP too!)
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What brand of LCP u have decided? How much? tongue.gif

QUOTE(mytmnet @ Feb 10 2014, 01:02 AM)
Do you mean this RM450? laugh.gif

http://www.mudah.my/Proton+Inspira+Lancer+...21-25530979.htm
Another monitor add on?  rclxub.gif
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Yup tht is the 1...located at bercham/kg tawas
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QUOTE(wrb7878 @ Feb 10 2014, 07:11 AM)
OIC..i come to this Mitsubishi brand bcos of new ASX 4WD...
i just wonder why my current honday city idsi cvt is better pick up performance than mivec 2.0. hmm.gif 
My city response is very good at traffic light, RPM from 1K to <2K speed 30-50 can give me better pick up from stop.
While i test drive ASX same minyak press, RPM over 3K then response is very slow...feel car cannot move then need press more minyak again.
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Perhaps u should go try new crv as well hmm.gif

Each car have their own forte & disadvantages... As for asx, indeed its a bit underpower which the owner can mod/spend monneh to eliminate it..not everybody is petrol head anyway tongue.gif


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QUOTE(s@ni @ Feb 10 2014, 07:18 AM)
Perhaps u should go try new crv as well hmm.gif

Each car have their own forte & disadvantages... As for asx, indeed its a bit underpower which the owner can mod/spend monneh to eliminate it..not everybody is petrol head anyway tongue.gif
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You means a bit underpower due to ASX weight or the engine behavior of fuel saving?

Yea i try few SUV...so far the subaru xv is really best in pick up and performance.
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Feb 10 2014, 05:50 AM)
http://twitpic.com/dv0foi

http://twitpic.com/dv0fp5

looks like a good 5+mm while maybe just less than a cm or so?

can see the edges of the rim getting covered in brake dust already despite i just detailed my car a week ago (which of course include rim cleaning)
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Those yellowish brown color stuffs are brake dust?

My rim edge always covered with those sad.gif
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post Feb 10 2014, 07:29 AM

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QUOTE(ckk125 @ Feb 10 2014, 06:24 AM)
that is called rubber band effect..famous among cvts.  smile.gif
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Inspira have paddle shift with 6 speeds can avoid the rubberband effect?

I read this from goole on Honday City CVT:

City gets paddle shifters with 7 speeds
What this means is that you can avoid the rubberband effect by simply pulling a paddle behind the steering wheel.

In the normal ā€˜D’ mode, the engine revs to about 5,000 rpm each time you put your foot flat down.
Then on, it takes a while until the speed of the car reaches the speed of the engine.
This is perhaps the downside of the Nissan X-Tronic CVT found in the Scala and Sunny, as it takes an endless amount of time until you actually get going.
Honda on the other hand have done a rather remarkable job in masking this rubberband effect, and even without the paddle shifters, the City CVT feels quick.
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post Feb 10 2014, 07:31 AM

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QUOTE(s@ni @ Feb 10 2014, 07:14 AM)
What brand of LCP u have decided? How much? tongue.gif
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no money so nothing decided atm cry.gif

QUOTE(blacktubi @ Feb 10 2014, 07:20 AM)
Those yellowish brown color stuffs are brake dust?

My rim edge always covered with those sad.gif
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yea pretty much. hard to scrub as well unless you have products that specifically deals with brake dust (car pro ironx, sonax xtreme wheel cleaner plus full effect to name a few wink.gif )

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post Feb 10 2014, 07:36 AM

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nicotine

Full resolution and EXIF data included to clear any doubts:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/+JasonLimQuazac...sts/YWyAuVNUApj

https://plus.google.com/u/0/+JasonLimQuazac...sts/a9zm7DDBKXe

really, the poorboy's black hole really did wonders on making proton's tranquility black suck less laugh.gif

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Feb 10 2014, 07:44 AM
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Feb 9 2014, 02:20 AM)
finally dapat?
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No... i mean "checked in" for V62 sweat.gif laugh.gif

QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Feb 10 2014, 07:36 AM)
nicotine

Full resolution and EXIF data included to clear any doubts:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/+JasonLimQuazac...sts/YWyAuVNUApj

https://plus.google.com/u/0/+JasonLimQuazac...sts/a9zm7DDBKXe

really, the poorboy's black hole really did wonders on making proton's tranquility black suck less laugh.gif
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waah.. mirror like shine lol rclxms.gif
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post Feb 10 2014, 09:17 AM

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QUOTE(wrb7878 @ Feb 10 2014, 07:11 AM)
OIC..i come to this Mitsubishi brand bcos of new ASX 4WD...
i just wonder why my current honday city idsi cvt is better pick up performance than mivec 2.0. hmm.gif 
My city response is very good at traffic light, RPM from 1K to <2K speed 30-50 can give me better pick up from stop.
While i test drive ASX same minyak press, RPM over 3K then response is very slow...feel car cannot move then need press more minyak again.
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Try reduce the car weight of the asx same as ur honda city.. Then compare the pickup whistling.gif
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post Feb 10 2014, 09:21 AM

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1. City idsi is on a SOHC (better low end)
2. City is much lighter compare asx
3. City was quite old.. That time emission control not that tight yet.. Asx have much tighter emission control (detuned to produce less carbon emission).. Most inspira owner here remap to gain better acceleration @ alter the timing n so on..
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QUOTE(s@ni @ Feb 9 2014, 07:52 PM)
Da new 421 that i saw is rm450,
Touch2 see2 it at ipoh yesterday,
Hmmmm quality is bad
Exterior weldings are ok,
But internally are like...hmmmmm
From taiwan btw
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Hi Bro,

I want to visit for Race tag, how to check on weldings? Smooth is ok? internal more important than exterior, right?

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QUOTE(wrb7878 @ Feb 10 2014, 07:12 AM)
Morning bro.
I dont know what is rubber band effect....safe fuel efficient? my Honda city idsi is CVT too rite?
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for a 2 litre car, it is fuel efficient, comparable to the honda civic 2.0

rubber band effect, u floor the pedal, rpm climbs, then only speed follow..
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post Feb 10 2014, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(wrb7878 @ Feb 10 2014, 07:11 AM)
OIC..i come to this Mitsubishi brand bcos of new ASX 4WD...
i just wonder why my current honday city idsi cvt is better pick up performance than mivec 2.0. hmm.gif 
My city response is very good at traffic light, RPM from 1K to <2K speed 30-50 can give me better pick up from stop.
While i test drive ASX same minyak press, RPM over 3K then response is very slow...feel car cannot move then need press more minyak again.
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idsi good response cuz the engine is ala diesel engine...max torque at 1750 rpm.

u compare after 80km/h, the city will pancit.

ex owner here, city idsi 2008. the honda's cvt is more rough than the mitsu(nissan) unit.
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post Feb 10 2014, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(wrb7878 @ Feb 10 2014, 07:29 AM)
Inspira have paddle shift with 6 speeds can avoid the rubberband effect?

I read this from goole on Honday City CVT:

City gets paddle shifters with 7 speeds
What this means is that you can avoid the rubberband effect by simply pulling a paddle behind the steering wheel.

In the normal ā€˜D’ mode, the engine revs to about 5,000 rpm each time you put your foot flat down.
Then on, it takes a while until the speed of the car reaches the speed of the engine.
This is perhaps the downside of the Nissan X-Tronic CVT found in the Scala and Sunny, as it takes an endless amount of time until you actually get going.
Honda on the other hand have done a rather remarkable job in masking this rubberband effect, and even without the paddle shifters, the City CVT feels quick.
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all cvt has this rubber band effect, be it nissan/honda/toyota. it is just the way the transmission works. u can have 1000 speed cvt gearboxes cuz they actually dont have any gears.

im used to cvt gearboxes and no way im goin back to conventional 5speed gb. prefer the lower rpm cruising over the 'kicks' u get from conventional gb

im getting old...
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post Feb 10 2014, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(ckk125 @ Feb 10 2014, 09:33 AM)
idsi good response cuz the engine is ala diesel engine...max torque at 1750 rpm.
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Huh city had diesel variant?

QUOTE(ckk125 @ Feb 10 2014, 09:37 AM)
all cvt has this rubber band effect, be it nissan/honda/toyota. it is just the way the transmission works.
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You should try Subaru cvt, more specifically the Subaru legacy lol
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post Feb 10 2014, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Feb 10 2014, 09:55 AM)
Huh city had diesel variant?
You should try Subaru cvt,  more specifically the Subaru legacy lol
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He meant the city have diesel characteristic as the max torque comes at very early stage 1750rpm..

But YAB jaycraptor forte 1.6 4 speed also have 90% torque at 1500 rpm jo

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