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I found out that there are 3 types, course, fine and finish. Do I need all 3?This post has been edited by legenderycity: Feb 12 2014, 03:00 PM
Model Kits Gundam & Mecha modelling thread V33, Gunpla builders assemble!
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QUOTE(afsarudy @ Feb 12 2014, 02:28 PM) QUOTE(vincent09 @ Feb 12 2014, 02:55 PM) I found out that there are 3 types, course, fine and finish. Do I need all 3?This post has been edited by legenderycity: Feb 12 2014, 03:00 PM |
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QUOTE(legenderycity @ Feb 12 2014, 02:19 PM) Hi, I kinda need help from the sifus here. So I tried using a filer to sand off the nubs but after finishing it with 1000 grit and 1500 grit sandpaper, I still couldn't make it as shiny as it was. Here are some samples: there's higher grit sandpaper, with the highest #2000» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Any ideas on how to remove those scratches? I heard you can use a polishing agent but I don't know whether a car polish is considered one after that use tamiya compound or similar hobby use polishing compound, usually 3 types, coarse, fine, finish to end up a surface as shiny as a new car, you need to use coarse -> fine -> finish I advice against using car polishing compound, it may deteriorate the plastic final advice, in the second photo, you don't need to worry about nub marks, as the area will covered in the torso after finish assembling This post has been edited by General_Nic: Feb 12 2014, 03:01 PM |
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QUOTE(legenderycity @ Feb 12 2014, 02:19 PM) Hi, I kinda need help from the sifus here. So I tried using a filer to sand off the nubs but after finishing it with 1000 grit and 1500 grit sandpaper, I still couldn't make it as shiny as it was. Here are some samples: hehehe if the part was hidden when assemble like in your picture, (the one with pegs) no need to work hard, it was hidden....» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Any ideas on how to remove those scratches? I heard you can use a polishing agent but I don't know whether a car polish is considered one but for nubmark at the side torso, try higher grit of sandpaper.. and yes, compound too but i just simply dab same color marker (sharpie marker) for scratches/or whited nubmark.. hahahhahaa This post has been edited by mf_yamato: Feb 12 2014, 03:31 PM |
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Feb 12 2014, 03:59 PM
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i rmemeber using those to polish nail ones, became shiny also
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Feb 12 2014, 04:05 PM
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QUOTE(OhNooy @ Feb 12 2014, 03:02 PM) if you want flat/matte finish, using #2000 sandpaper is good enough, no need compoundQUOTE(rx330 @ Feb 12 2014, 03:59 PM) those nail polish sticks? yupe, those work too, although harder to use on curvy surfaces |
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yea, on curvy one i force the stick and rub on whatever corner it comes contact with, hahahhaha
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QUOTE(General_Nic @ Feb 12 2014, 03:01 PM) there's higher grit sandpaper, with the highest #2000 Haha I just tried with up to 2500 grit, but still the same after that use tamiya compound or similar hobby use polishing compound, usually 3 types, coarse, fine, finish to end up a surface as shiny as a new car, you need to use coarse -> fine -> finish I advice against using car polishing compound, it may deteriorate the plastic final advice, in the second photo, you don't need to worry about nub marks, as the area will covered in the torso after finish assembling Ok so I have gotta buy all 3. Roughly how much is it for 1? I saw on ebay all 3 for 20usd |
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Hi, legenderycity I am quite curious, can you state the step you sand the part?
Is it file->1000grit->1200grit? |
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QUOTE(legenderycity @ Feb 12 2014, 05:16 PM) For me, I would do file, 800grit->1000grit->1200grit->2500grit/used sandpaper->compound.Try this out, I learnt this from an senior which have 15+ years of experience in plastic model. You have to slowly increase the grit for sanding, not from after file, with rough surface straight jump to 1000grit, it will only waste your sandpaper. Cheers |
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QUOTE(TheGreatBahamut @ Feb 12 2014, 05:22 PM) For me, I would do file, 800grit->1000grit->1200grit->2500grit/used sandpaper->compound. Ok noted. I will try what you suggested. Btw after 1200 grit straight to 2500 grit already? Try this out, I learnt this from an senior which have 15+ years of experience in plastic model. You have to slowly increase the grit for sanding, not from after file, with rough surface straight jump to 1000grit, it will only waste your sandpaper. Cheers |
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QUOTE(legenderycity @ Feb 12 2014, 05:25 PM) Hahaha after 1200 actually can apply compound already, most important is earlier step when the surface still rough, you have to slowly increase grit. With flat top coat, it will be fine. If you want finer touch then end with 1500, 2000, or 2500 grit. What I did is what I told you earlier file->800->1000->1200->used sandpaper. Trust me bro, I learnt from ah pek from ICW. No harm to try This post has been edited by TheGreatBahamut: Feb 12 2014, 05:31 PM |
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QUOTE(TheGreatBahamut @ Feb 12 2014, 05:30 PM) Hahaha after 1200 actually can apply compound already, most important is earlier step when the surface still rough, you have to slowly increase grit. With flat top coat, it will be fine. Damn I don't have 800 grit sandpaper so I used a 600 grit one instead, but sadly scratch marks still there. Is it because I sand it too hard?If you want finer touch then end with 1500, 2000, or 2500 grit. What I did is what I told you earlier file->800->1000->1200->used sandpaper. Trust me bro, I learnt from ah pek from ICW. No harm to try This post has been edited by legenderycity: Feb 12 2014, 08:47 PM |
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QUOTE(legenderycity @ Feb 12 2014, 07:16 PM) Damn I don't have 800 grit sandpaper so I used a 600 grit one instead, but sadly scratch marks still there. Is it because I sand it too hard? it helps to wet sand so that the sanded particles will not damage. then dont push hard while sanding as well.using multiple sandpaper is good as well, going from smaller grit to higher one. afaik, 600 grit is noticeable but maybe after flat coat, it will be less noticeable. |
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QUOTE(legenderycity @ Feb 12 2014, 07:16 PM) Damn I don't have 800 grit sandpaper so I used a 600 grit one instead, but sadly scratch marks still there. Is it because I sand it too hard? #600 or #800 doesn't make much difference, most important is the step up in griteither #600 or #800, the next one you use #1000 or #1200, then next #1500 btw this is getting too much off topic, there's a thread specific for asking about modelling skills plus, this steps have been posted many times before, please read it QUOTE(rayloke @ Apr 30 2012, 03:47 PM) Ok, i think i will share a little bit with snapfit... something i just learn recently when i started doing my snapfit kits. One of the main challenge of snapfitted kit is the task of removing nip marks, without leaving any visible leftover mark. This is especially challenging when doing colored parts; especially blue n red, n other darker colors. One can sand under the nip mark is flat, but is during the cutting process, any damage on the plastic will leave a white spot on the plastic which is almost impossible to remove 100%. So be very careful! » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Part on the runner. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Cut it from the runner with a side cutter. Remember to leave some extra nip. This is because no matter how sharp your side cutter is, the cutting action somehow will have some force pressing onto the plastic. This will, especially parts with darker color like red n blue n grey, The force might damage the plastic n leave white spot. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Then, use a sharp knife to slowly "slice" the nip, bit by bit. With this, no pressure will be put onto the plastic. When the nip mark is short enough, mebbe 0.5mm, we can start doing sanding. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « My personal habit is start with a file. This is sometimes dangerous because file can be very erosive n it sands down plastic very fast. As a result, if not careful, u might just over sand the whole thing n leave some very deep scratch mark onto the plastic. Here, i file it down until it's almost near the part. u can still see the shape of the nip. notice the white or light color around the nip? this is plastic damage n turn white. but no worry, it's only skin deep n can be easily removed by sand paper. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Sand paper sanding. i start with 800, end with 1,200 grit. This is because i will be finishing with flat coat. IF u wanna do gloss coat, at least end with 2,000 grit n above. For curvy surface, i strongly recommend to use those 3M sanding sponge, the one state "microfine". Now we can still see some scratches. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Next i use Tamiya compound Coarse (Pic below) to compound it. Actually i do not need to do this because my final finishing is flat. This is just to show an example for those who wants to do gloss or semi gloss. Besides compound, if u think it's expensive (around RM15 one tube), u can also use nail polisher. Use the finest one, those used for last step polishing or they call it "buff" type. Other than that, u can even use those CD recovery fluid. The liquid u use, when your DVD has fine scratches, to wipe on the CD/DVD. IT works. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « ****************************************************************************************************************************** Compared to the pic above, u can see the glossiness of original Bandai plastic. After compound, it's much glossier, something like those HD version. |
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