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 Toyota Altis 1.8 versus Kia Cerato 1.6, Which should I buy?

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cybermaster98
post Feb 5 2014, 08:29 AM

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QUOTE(wayfeel @ Feb 5 2014, 01:21 AM)
You don't have to read it from somewhere to notice that RV affect middle to low class people. 90% ppl not rich so yes RV does matter to many ppl. problem?
Get high dp for next new car is not something to be complained over about right?

I do get it that safety is important but accident is not your everyday matter in one's life...I mean, it is not a be all and end all matter. It is not an immediate life and death thing....like insurance, it is important but not everyone buys or believe in insurance....some ppl still believe the old method over insurance as alternative or 'drive slow' for matter of 'safer' car.
Lastime ppl drive also without safety where got all these safety jargons VSC ESC etc ppl still get to somewhere safely.

I'm not advocating that we should get a car with less safety, I do think that we should...BESIDES, what car nowadays that do not have safety mah? (referring to toyota lines but i'm not well versed of their features/specs. If they don't , they should buck up. if they do, between toyota and a korean, I dont think choosing toyota is bad either due to the better RV as determinant. not a problem ya?

Just saying, RV is really seem more immediate benefit to ppl who change their vehicles often ie. transport companies who replace their vehicles very frequently, RV does direct impact their spreadsheet more than safety concerns or a single executive who prefers a good down-payment over safety. So why is it a 'no-brainer'? is puzzling to me that some ppl cannot brain why still many prefer RV over safety.
I think uve got the whole safety thing wrong. Safety is NOT insurance and no where even similar to insurance. Insurance deals with your ability to pay for medical costs or your dependants welfare. Safety is LIFE itself. Accidents are not your everyday matter but all it takes is ONE accident and someone's life is out the door. Are you willing to take a gamble on safety assuming that you wont get into an accident?

In all my years of driving, ive never experienced a high speed tyre blowout but early last year i did and if it wasnt for the stability control function on my car, i would have ended up smashing into the trailer i was overtaking on the highway when it happened or slamming into the guardrail. Yes i never had any use for stability control for 99% of my driving time all these years but that one time was all i needed and if it wasnt for it, i may not be here writing this now.

So in short, let's not take away any importance from safety. Car owners should never compromise on safety and should never choose resale value over it. ABS, EBD, BA, Stability Control, Traction Control and at least 4 airbags should be compulsory in any car. As long as consumers in Malaysia continue to purchase cars with substandard safety features, car manufacturers will continue to sell them. UMW Toyota not making VSC a standard feature in all Altis models is a joke and they should be boycotted for that. Would Toyota dare sell a car without VSC in America or Australia? So why are Malaysians accepting non VSC equipped cars here?

Even Paultan is a strong advocate for safety especially Stability Control:
http://paultan.org/2012/06/27/esp-stabilit...-in-their-cars/



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post Feb 6 2014, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(wayfeel @ Feb 6 2014, 03:13 AM)
So paying 20K less upfront makes it better RV? RV stands for resell value....resell, means residual amount when you resell back to secondary market
I didn't write up the articles in the internet about toyota being the RV king. Guys in the internet did biggrin.gif
RV = Resale value. Not resell value.

I think what he meant was that you have to look at the percentage of the RV instead of the value itself since the original purchase price may be different. Simple math.
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post Feb 9 2014, 12:51 PM

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QUOTE(sitescope @ Feb 9 2014, 12:00 PM)
Alamak... all nissan salesman like this kaaa...
Answer lain jawab lain...
Patut la asyik tipu cust je ckp almeera is good... lolz...
Is he a Nissan salesman?
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post Feb 14 2014, 08:22 AM

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QUOTE(kapultek @ Feb 14 2014, 01:02 AM)
any discount for 1.8 altis..
toyota sa do pm me for altis discount
U expecting a discount so soon after launch especially with Toyota? notworthy.gif
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post Feb 22 2014, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(bryant76 @ Feb 18 2014, 08:22 PM)
when i sit in one of the new altis , as the SA is delivering the car to the new owner
i really feel this car IS CAR OF THE YEAR

so smooth ...................and so powerful

really something worth it

even though those safety feature , i feel like it still worth to buy
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post Feb 26 2014, 01:09 PM

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