Wouldn't be worth it since people can always buy their own and you'll have to sell it cheap. Theres a few (I think) in garage sales but they are coloured and I wanted black.

Kam kam lets share shipping.

higher cost for repair?...

Highly bored. Looking for some colourful keycaps (I ordered already) to spice things up. But everybody selling damn expensive keycaps...

As for my real question, what's the cheapest option for a costar stabilizer keyboard? Spacebar feels annoying nowadays :|

hmm, i am guessing keycool? haha!
locally would be rosewill i guess...but that depends if there's stock.

go join rain drop group buy.
you can mod cherry stabs, they feel as same as costar after that.

Detached copper plate require some jump wiring, which isn't going to be aesthetically appealing...

i think rm1xxx region is for the most highend segment for mkb.

the more budget region is around rm3xx-4xx ish....

but considering highend gaming keyboards are around the same region as a budget mkb roughly, your better off getting a mkb which is by far superior.


of course extras like led lighting, better quality keycaps, switch types (topre, cherry mx red, blue, brown....), nkro (or not), will all determine how much extra you will be spending.


The way a beginner mkb buyer should prioritize is firstly the switch being used. Cherry mx red, blue, brown, black; or a Topre...... The reason why cherry mx is so popular because of it's feel as well as it's good pricing and performance. Topres cost more but are considered quality switches, not only because of performance, but also because of less sound when typing.

once that is decided, move onto the next part. keycaps. How good do you want them to be ? Will you be okay with a keycap whos print may wear out after usage whether that be weeks, months or in a year ? If this bothers you, you can incrementally upgrade your option from the cheaper silk screened to laser printed, to the higher end of the spectrum e.g. (double shots or dye sublimated). Yes better quality keycaps specificaly print type, is so that they last long and won't wear out the print, which most cheap quality keycaps do. If you don't want to worry about replacing keycaps in the future, i strongly investing in some good keycaps.

next, will the oily shine effect be too much of a nuisance to you ? can upgrade from abs < PBT or POM

mkb casing, how good do you want it to be ? Plastic or a solid metalic alloy ? the aluminium milled casings i see are heavy but very durable. They are very good. But the hard plastic onces aren't bad either. I personally don't think you can go wrong with either, it's more depending on the quality of the build that matters more. I also suggest you go for a plate mounted mkb, that uses an aluminium plate preferably as it reduces the weight :} You can have other metals, but they most likely will be heavier than aluminium.

nkro, or 6kro ?


other extras that aren't essential but could be useful, as like multimedia function keys using onboard switch e.g. multimedia playback controls like stop/play etc...... and also led lighting ........



So based on what features you want, you can then determine the price based on those features from the available mkb models out there. Once you figure that out, and you realize it's above your budget, you can then work your way downward by what features you can do without, before you come to the mkb that will suit both your needs and budget.



for gaming considerations, the linear cherry mx such as blacks and browns are usually the popular choice. They all have their pros and cons.

1. cherry mx black.
pro - linear
cons - high actuation force required. may be tiring, but gamers tend to mash down on the keys anyway, so may not necessary be too big a deal breaker. but is not as pleasant for casual typing.

2. cherry mx red
pro - linear and very light actuation force required. very pleasant to type one, and probably the fastest actuation response.
cons - probably too light. if your the type that rests your fingers lightly on your keyboard, directly on keycaps, you may from time to time, accidentally, actuate keys without realizing it. their that light ;_;

3. cherry mx blue
pro - can't really think of any. cept that it's clicky, but i don't really think of that as a pro for the gaming segment.
cons - is reported to be unsuitable for quick successive double tapping that is used by some gamers.

4. cherry mx brown
pro - good for both gaming and casual typing
cons - is not linear, some pro gamers may be fussy because of that, as they probably want linear without any feedback that may slow down their actuation responsiveness.


linear switch users i feel, tend to bottom out when pressing on the keys. meaning they press hard and press all the way down. tactile users usually press lightlier, and probably not all the way as they don't need to, because of the tactile feedback.



If i were to recommend a gaming keyboard for a beginner, i strongly suggest the Ducky Shine 3. it gives you the best of both worlds of a bling and mechanical keyboard.



The review
http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/ducky...3_review,1.html


If you want the one with the aluminium casing, that is the more expensive limited edition of the ducky shine 3, which costs more than getting the regular model. You can't go wrong with either one But if you do get one, also consider getting a leather palm rest. I've been using one for many years, and it's very comfortable.



The mkb mod group who usually pay alot to mod their keyboard, may go for stuff like in this screenshot below. using a very high quality milled aluminium casing, with either vintage or custom made quality keycaps (which are usually either doubleshots or dye sublimated). They may even opt to mod in led lighting as well. This is the extreme segment group of the mkb modding community

but i think most people, especially beginners would be content with something like the Ducky Shine 3. because at the end of the day, it's the switches you use that matters the most

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Jan 20 2014, 04:23 PM

New spacebar to replace the one I wrecked, some RGBY keys, and some Dota 2 R1 (or is it R4?) keys because the 104-key massdrop last time doesn't cover my 105th-108th keys and I'm annoyed.

I thought raindrop close dy? But I not entirely like the colours... maybe I will... or not.

Round 2 still open.
I got taihao round 2 also last time.

Linkies for round 2?

Just in case I regret didn't join


edit; nvm found it.

This post has been edited by dadudeneverabides: Jan 20 2014, 04:34 PM

too expensive for tkl set.
75usd. about rm255 not including fees and shipping.

Hence, no regrets.

Also, how much you charging for co-star stab modding? Gonna mod my KBT TKL first and get that pause key fixed at the same time

i dont know what to mod about costar stab except lubing.

No, as in changing from cherry stabs to co-star stabs.

nope u cant do that

He mean cherry stabiliser clipping.

You can't directly mod cherry stabiliser to costar, or the vice versa.

But there are such spreading that clipped cherry stabiliser is as good as costar one.

Yeah, I read about the clipping thing.

Anyone here wanna do it for me?

1) Is Cherry MX a series of mkb or the name of manufacturer?

2) yeah I don't mind that kind of key caps

3) can you further explain this point?

4)It is a must ! haha

5)what does linear means?

6) Yeah ducky shine is very eye catching

This post has been edited by Y.J.S: Jan 20 2014, 10:49 PM

if you have the money,

I would recommend you to get a SteelSeries Sensei or Ikari Laser

I used to own a SteelSeries Ikari Laser (my younger Bro using now) before I got my Razer DeathAdder Black Series.

you could feel quite a big difference between these mice,

On hand, Ikari Laser doesn't feel as texturised or touchy as the DA Black

But in terms of performance and grip, I could say Ikari Laser will make you feel like you're the MVP of every game while the DA Black makes you feel like you're holding something luxury, yeah Luxury.
I am a common PC user, it's normal for me to feel that the TKL and 60% layout look cacat.
yeah agree