Hi guys, I'm going to buy a new mkb for the first time!
Any recommendations?
and what should I look for while buying ?
how to identify a used one or brand new ?
Mechanical Keyboard Thread V20
Mechanical Keyboard Thread V20
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Jan 19 2014, 11:07 AM
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Hi guys, I'm going to buy a new mkb for the first time!
Any recommendations? and what should I look for while buying ? how to identify a used one or brand new ? |
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Jan 19 2014, 01:42 PM
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QUOTE(quovadis123 @ Jan 19 2014, 11:27 AM) Please look at the 1st page for more info about mechanical keyboard. For recommendation, what budget of the mechanical keyboard you wanted to buy? Some recommendations also posted on page 1. Money is not an option since it wouldn't exceed 1k budget, right? Before I look through those recommended Mkb, mind explain what's the difference between TFL, 60% layout and full size Mkb? is it appropriate to use it for gaming? The only Mkb I've heard of is Ducky Shine , their keyboard very nice looking (the pink one) |
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Jan 19 2014, 09:15 PM
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QUOTE(quovadis123 @ Jan 19 2014, 01:52 PM) So, will recommend those mechanical keyboard <1k for you. There are mechanical keyboard >1k, easily hit 1k mark when the mechanical keyboard is custom. yes that pink one , I like I never heard of TFL. For common layout are full layout, TKL (Tenkeyless), and 60%. Full layout. - Recommend: Ducky Shine 3 ![]() TKL(Tenkeyless) - Recommend: Filco Majestouch 2 TKL ![]() 60%. - Recommend: Vortex Poker II ![]() Which layout you like? Yup. MKB can used for intensive gaming. Do you mean this pink limited edition Ducky? ![]() I think if I gotta choose, I'll go for full layout since tenkeyless, 60% layout looks quite cacat QUOTE(ForeverTorres.c0m @ Jan 19 2014, 02:04 PM) Hi guys, I am going to buy the first ever mkb in my life May I know how you all customise your mkb? Need some advices here. I am buying a mechanical keyboard for normal gaming purpose. Currently I managed to find some 2nd hand keyboards in forum with few months of warranty left but I also found some completely new keyboard at cheaper price from taobao but without warranty. I am planning to do some modding on my keyboard after I have enough budget for it too. Which should I choose? QUOTE(PowerSlide @ Jan 19 2014, 05:06 PM) I'm using Razer Deathadder Black Edition, though I didn't use any mkb QUOTE(quovadis123 @ Jan 19 2014, 05:51 PM) Razer Mamba 5600-6400 dpi, you can handle ? |
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Jan 20 2014, 10:46 PM
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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Jan 20 2014, 04:01 PM) i think rm1xxx region is for the most highend segment for mkb. 1) Is Cherry MX a series of mkb or the name of manufacturer? the more budget region is around rm3xx-4xx ish.... but considering highend gaming keyboards are around the same region as a budget mkb roughly, your better off getting a mkb which is by far superior. of course extras like led lighting, better quality keycaps, switch types (topre, cherry mx red, blue, brown....), nkro (or not), will all determine how much extra you will be spending. The way a beginner mkb buyer should prioritize is firstly the switch being used. Cherry mx red, blue, brown, black; or a Topre...... The reason why 1)cherry mx is so popular because of it's feel as well as it's good pricing and performance. Topres cost more but are considered quality switches, not only because of performance, but also because of less sound when typing. once that is decided, move onto the next part. keycaps. How good do you want them to be ? Will you be okay with a 2)keycap whos print may wear out after usage whether that be weeks, months or in a year ? If this bothers you, you can incrementally upgrade your option from the cheaper silk screened to laser printed, to the higher end of the spectrum e.g. (double shots or dye sublimated). Yes better quality keycaps specificaly print type, is so that they last long and won't wear out the print, which most cheap quality keycaps do. If you don't want to worry about replacing keycaps in the future, i strongly investing in some good keycaps. next, will the 3)oily shine effect be too much of a nuisance to you ? can upgrade from abs < PBT or POM mkb casing, how good do you want it to be ? Plastic or a solid metalic alloy ? the aluminium milled casings i see are heavy but very durable. They are very good. But the hard plastic onces aren't bad either. I personally don't think you can go wrong with either, it's more depending on the quality of the build that matters more. I also suggest you go for a plate mounted mkb, that uses an aluminium plate preferably as it reduces the weight :} You can have other metals, but they most likely will be heavier than aluminium. nkro, or 6kro ? other extras that aren't essential but could be useful, as like multimedia function keys using onboard switch e.g. multimedia playback controls like stop/play etc...... and also 4)led lighting ........ So based on what features you want, you can then determine the price based on those features from the available mkb models out there. Once you figure that out, and you realize it's above your budget, you can then work your way downward by what features you can do without, before you come to the mkb that will suit both your needs and budget. for gaming considerations, the linear cherry mx such as blacks and browns are usually the popular choice. They all have their pros and cons. 1. cherry mx black. pro - 5) linear cons - high actuation force required. may be tiring, but gamers tend to mash down on the keys anyway, so may not necessary be too big a deal breaker. but is not as pleasant for casual typing. 2. cherry mx red pro - linear and very light actuation force required. very pleasant to type one, and probably the fastest actuation response. cons - probably too light. if your the type that rests your fingers lightly on your keyboard, directly on keycaps, you may from time to time, accidentally, actuate keys without realizing it. their that light ;_; 3. cherry mx blue pro - can't really think of any. cept that it's clicky, but i don't really think of that as a pro for the gaming segment. cons - is reported to be unsuitable for quick successive double tapping that is used by some gamers. 4. cherry mx brown pro - good for both gaming and casual typing cons - is not linear, some pro gamers may be fussy because of that, as they probably want linear without any feedback that may slow down their actuation responsiveness. linear switch users i feel, tend to bottom out when pressing on the keys. meaning they press hard and press all the way down. tactile users usually press lightlier, and probably not all the way as they don't need to, because of the tactile feedback. If i were to recommend a gaming keyboard for a beginner, i strongly suggest the Ducky Shine 3. it gives you the best of both worlds of a bling and mechanical keyboard. The review http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/ducky...3_review,1.html If you want the one with the aluminium casing, that is the more expensive limited edition of the ducky shine 3, which costs more than getting the regular model. You can't go wrong with either one The mkb mod group who usually pay alot to mod their keyboard, may go for stuff like in this screenshot below. using a very high quality milled aluminium casing, with either vintage or custom made quality keycaps (which are usually either doubleshots or dye sublimated). They may even opt to mod in led lighting as well. This is the extreme segment group of the mkb modding community but i think most people,6) especially beginners would be content with something like the Ducky Shine 3. because at the end of the day, it's the switches you use that matters the most 2) yeah I don't mind that kind of key caps 3) can you further explain this point? 4)It is a must ! haha 5)what does linear means? 6) Yeah ducky shine is very eye catching This post has been edited by Y.J.S: Jan 20 2014, 10:49 PM |
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Jan 20 2014, 10:58 PM
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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ Jan 19 2014, 10:06 PM) wana try other brand now, been with logitech far too long hehe if you have the money, not too fond or razer as well but im looking at the new steelseries rival..but RM205 for it kinda steep for my pocket I would recommend you to get a SteelSeries Sensei or Ikari Laser I used to own a SteelSeries Ikari Laser (my younger Bro using now) before I got my Razer DeathAdder Black Series. you could feel quite a big difference between these mice, On hand, Ikari Laser doesn't feel as texturised or touchy as the DA Black But in terms of performance and grip, I could say Ikari Laser will make you feel like you're the MVP of every game while the DA Black makes you feel like you're holding something luxury, yeah Luxury. QUOTE(diaBoliQu3 @ Jan 20 2014, 12:59 AM) I am a common PC user, it's normal for me to feel that the TKL and 60% layout look cacat. QUOTE(quovadis123 @ Jan 20 2014, 01:20 AM) For a commoner, they more attached to full layout. Like you guys attached to qwerty layout for typing. yeah agree Feel weird with other layout. I think that guy say cacat coz he always use full layout keyboard in PC. For those always use laptop, then 60% keyboard looks pretty normal to them. |
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Jan 23 2014, 07:43 PM
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Hi guys
First of all thanks to Human10 Moogle Stiltzkin [dadudeneverabides] for replying my post with some fine explanations. Now I would like to have recommendations as : Preferred Budget : Not more than RM1000 Preferred layout : full layout Preferred switch : don't know? as long as it benefits a gamer, linear switches Preferred keycaps : WASD sprayed/wrapped in PINK, others in WHITE. Hopefully has LED lighting |
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Jan 23 2014, 08:32 PM
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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Jan 23 2014, 07:59 PM) your welcome 1) Any good example? 2) RGB lighting? wait let me guess, it means it'll change colour time to time? Yeah I prefer MX red from what you've defined because I dislike pressing hard on the keyboard. and where can I get the Leopard FC700r ? btw it's a brown switch, someone said it in the comment section. |
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Jan 23 2014, 09:32 PM
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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Jan 23 2014, 08:41 PM) example of what the corsair is awesome!! he did mentioned that LED tend to break down, does this happens to anyone of you? Will all the mechanical keyboards that has LED encounter this problem?well Deck Legend is supposedly highend, but it doesn't have media functions that Ducky keyboards do. This is a kmac ![]() http://www.overclock.net/t/1236288/kmac-ke...nia-attic-craft awesome build quality, especially the custom alloy casing, keycaps and even led lighting. But i reckon it doesn't have media keys if that wasn't clear enough, here is another example, the topre realforce 103ub. This is the ferrari or mkbs, but unfortunately does not have media keys even though you pay alot for it. Maybe the newer Topres have changed, but i haven't really looked into it. Another example is the hardcore modding a razer mkb into a super badass mkb. and seeing as the razer black widow has media keys, i suspect it retained that even after he did this mod. ![]() http://www.damngeeky.com/2013/01/21/8450/d...g-keyboard.html the review http://www.anandtech.com/show/7685/hands-o...boards-and-more The review http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41048.0 oh I remember SteelSeries has a keyboard called Apex. isn't it same as this? |
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Jan 23 2014, 10:00 PM
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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Jan 23 2014, 09:42 PM) yes led do break down. but you should understand diff mkb brand use different quality led. and that affects their reliability and how long they last. is ducky shine 3 good enough in terms of their LEDs? I just watched the Unboxing of ducky shine 3. I wonder does it comes with other colours? black/grey is too common as a keyboard, I don't wanna waste RM4XX for a keyboard that looks like a RM4X one that anyone can get.it's important to read the reviews to understand what quality led lighting your getting. I had a logitech g15 rubberdome back in the day, with the cheapest led lighting. it grew very dim over time, and looked awful, dim here, slightly bright there.. ugh... |
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Jan 23 2014, 10:12 PM
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Cyntrix Technologies at Setia Walk got sell all sorts of mechanical keyboards?
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Jan 23 2014, 10:19 PM
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Jan 24 2014, 05:12 AM
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QUOTE(Lotus1109 @ Jan 24 2014, 01:16 AM) rm800 to you directly, just ship it I already have a sidewinder x4 and btw I'm not a hardcore gamer. Most of the time I'm doing video editing and school projects Tell me which RM4x keyboard has that typing feeling like RM4xx? Speaking about Ducky Shine 3, if you switch on the blink blink effect, which RM4x keyboard can do that? When you grow to a certain level, you will think that this kind of design is actually a better design than those so called gaming keyboards This thread suits you more: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1510888&hl= Moogle Stiltzkin dayummmm !! The deck hassium is far cooler than the ducky shine 3 |
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Jan 24 2014, 07:14 AM
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Jan 24 2014, 09:01 PM
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Yeah I dislike black keyboards but deck hassium is exceptional.
like what diaBoliqu3 said I could paint the casing to make it looks more special |
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Jan 24 2014, 09:43 PM
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Jan 25 2014, 05:11 PM
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QUOTE(0168257061 @ Jan 25 2014, 05:08 PM) ![]() Brief description: Signature Plastic DCS Profile R5 (Esc Row) ABS Double Shot We decided to stick with LYN MKB because it represents us the most. The color is also base on a couple of famous keycaps set that is/was running in GH. Your opinion is much welcomed. |
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Jan 25 2014, 06:55 PM
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Jan 25 2014, 10:28 PM
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QUOTE(quovadis123 @ Jan 25 2014, 10:21 PM) There is no comparison. Filco is better at TKL? If full layout, Ducky is better?I would not buy Razer and Arma for keyboard. You just take my advice, choose Filco Majestouch 2 TKL for your keyboard. Typing experience is good. Please don't spit random keyboard and ask for comparison. You may compare Ducky, CM Storm, Filco, buy either 1 is fine. But, Filco is better currently. That's all. |
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Jan 26 2014, 11:03 AM
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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Jan 26 2014, 08:47 AM) aww man!! The backlights look better than those in the Ducky Shine 3!Too bad it doesn't has arrow keys QUOTE(kaysa @ Jan 26 2014, 10:22 AM) Received an email from elitekeyboards.com, they having promotion for the Realforce line of produces, the cheapest one is now $199! what are you mumbling about? First time below $200! But come to think of it, Malaysia Ringgit is dropping like crazy recently, it will probably turn out higher now then when they priced it $215….. zzz Malaysian can only buy Kangkong now. what kangkung? are you drunk? |
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Jan 26 2014, 12:16 PM
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QUOTE(diaBoliQu3 @ Jan 26 2014, 12:08 PM) TK if you need numpad. QFR or Stealth if you don't need numpad. A lot of people letting go their BWTE and I wondering why and why? I know that. But why mention #kangkung here?1) Will you FULLY utilized the backlight? Want arrow, get QFR, or Filco if you highly doubt the brand. Or self import from Taoabo, keycool 87 LED and few other line up. 2) He's not drunk. He's just a little high due to kangkung. Recently, BolehLand junkie discovered that kangkung or water spinach can replace weed. The reason Popeye getting super strength is due to the hallucination, which is side effect of kangkung overdosage. better replace with supply and demand concept |
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