they very simple equation is zero flippers then it would be perfect..

Problem is no one bother to even consider ur rented prop.. btw u mention u also rich and dun bothet bout rent.. u categorise your self as rich and subsequently nothing to do and post here

The flippers will eventually die off in 5 years of holding... those rich.. has too many prop.. even can face d storm.. their credit will be lock down..

we really need to wait till tongkat days.. increase the interest rate around 5 % to 10% percent will be enough

Ok good online banking.. candy crush.. wah youngster ahh... THIS CAN ONLY HAPPEN.. IF YOU HAVE A PLACE TO SIT DURING PEAK HOURS OF COMMUTERS.. if the commuters no ppl mean not peak.. drive better right..

[quote=Rabel,Jan 22 2014, 10:24 PM]
[quote=bearbearwong,Jan 22 2014, 10:17 PM]
The flippers will eventually die off in 5 years of holding... those rich.. has too many prop.. even can face d storm.. their credit will be lock down..

we really need to wait till tongkat days.. increase the interest rate around 5 % to 10% percent will be enough


U said ppl got too many properties, credit will be lock down.
Ppl said u got zero property, credit oso lock down.



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Not locked down.. just waiting for the perfect storm but inflated ones.. really not worth.. but then again

according to them ... " u havent not seen rrich ppl" and infact there are many rich ppl------ YES you are right just their numbers does not match the poor ones

and the MARKET they target is also from the poor class and middle class --- now targeting middle upper class and those just in rich class ( as they flipped so high to target just these guys)

new buyers please have a bigger eyes before and biger ears and rational mind before jumping the gun into property investment dun be easily convinced by developers to invest into the projects in which they themselves don't want..

by dishing other rebates for 2014 launches.. it is actually trying to bring back DIBS in a back door way.. and this time their lancing price is god damm high.. and this time thier theme is 'BUY NOW.. IF NOT NEXT YEAR GST COME MORE HIGH" --- YA RIGHT AND YOU STILL BUILDING EVEN THERE IS OVERSUPPLY..

still increasing meh property price? new launches still many? talk is free leh..

U see I know where you coming from... the high end flippers right.. yes can sustain and have cash.. but then again rich flippers has multiple units..their intention is to flip also ( just dat appetite is bigger) ..even they can hold.. it will defeat their original intention of investment ... unless a long term investment.. the longer you hold the more you bleed in intetest.. is a losing game to hold long... and the rich dudes dont have so many ass to stay in all these house..

I would dare to say the source of strong income is ether high salary worker like O& G or even top management.. and these pppl are ageing and long term investment.. reali a risk as u dun enjoy the fruits before dying.. those group 25 to 40 these are the main category flippers thesr group heavily depend on flipping upon Vp and their foindation I.e savings are normally very disturbing level.. even they can secure the loan.. they will remain poor..

for businesses of high end flipping.. business dun last forever.. I just house cleaned and sell off a datuks paparich in brickfields.. so though is not vonclusive.. even rich ppl are not fool to dip their fingers in trouble water so long ( I.e holding it) as even business are not stable.. anf cant last long..

humans rich poor still want the money in physical form.. flipping can secure them these before.. now this climate..I think no

Agree pocket bursting is very likely to happen before the total burst which is unlikely low.. then again.. market is baded on srntimens.. if part of KV really bubble.. I think even mature areas will be affected.. rental wise still boleh jalan

Dailou u still taugei meii... dailou if what you say really true.. folliwing your tend.. DSL outskirt 750k now originally 450k. 2 years after vp.. means another 8 another 800k increase at least plus yearly increase in house and etc.. 200k.. means ur 750k prop is going to be 1.75m in 10 years time.. in 20 years time... 3.3 million liao.. got logic bo...

the price of 750k is already a future 10 years price.. datis d flipped price.. buyers need to wait another 10 years only can increase.. so many agents around.. dun think out of the box..

I also saw one condo .. miharja condo.. 260k.. owner letting go.. desperate for money liao.. just posted today.. rental while house around 1.6k..

Lol I am not a prop agent dun categorise me with these ppl.. yucks.. I dun flip I just clean them off as a repomen..

I got another 2 as well on 4th day of CNY .. chinese penang poor family..haizzx

This post has been edited by bearbearwong: Jan 25 2014, 11:35 AM

Tun hussien onn there near d windows on d park.. I guess ..

These are agents.. dat TTDI groove kajang 250units DSL empty till now but sold.. explain a bit lor.. all empty house got ppl comit sucide.. I suggest u tell lar which service apartment got sucide.. let the whole project go down.. agents go and entertain the potential buyers at weekend..

Ya lar.. gen y.. sumore I dare say 70 % chinese flippers.. and most are agents.. and 50% percent sure utar grads if I m not mistaken.. they think their utar network is big...

these agents only flip in chinese mainly targeted area.. othet area they no go..

worse ting is expect the upper middle class and professional to buy from them.. siao ahhh

This post has been edited by bearbearwong: Jan 25 2014, 11:55 AM

Private.. public auction I have encounter b4.. private I do research first..

private auction I tink just call d agents.. they set up one.. also inflated price one.. no meal is free..

I withdraw.. my statement UTARians... really dun want you chinese to self destruct.. over inflated prop.. once bancrupt at gen y and current prop price.. it like never going to make any come back after that.. all is burn..

Subdales better than developer sell meh.. I recall all developers project vonfirm sapu bersih.. subsales in older prop maybe.. those upon VP I doubt.. want me to quoto example..

[quote=BTimes,Jan 25 2014, 12:36 PM]DIBS simply skews the demand of the market and creates some froth.  Its removal around Q4 2013 by banks coincided with the Budget 2014 announcement, hence it is reasonable for the market to stabilise for one to two quarters.  It is a good thing that it is removed.

Q1 2014 is a good time to get a property if you are buying for own stay.  After Chinese New Year is usually when buyers return to the market.  If the market is not doing well, most developers will simply delay launches to reduce supply.  The reduction in supply has been the case since Q4 2013 to-date.

Malaysia's working population is quite young and increasing, and projected 2014 GDP will be better than 2013, so it is a matter of time (I think around Q2 2014) when demand catches up again.






Q3.. LAHH.. the demand.. if no demand.. u know what happen liao.. working population has always been your target.. affordability will be still intact..this arguement has greatly addressed..

if dun catch up means ... market will plunge just like genting incident.. ppl who can hold survive.. those cant die.. and many die just like dat in our case default and bancrupt


This post has been edited by bearbearwong: Jan 25 2014, 01:46 PM

Dat y this is not owalys directed to ppl who intend own property.. if the market is not fueled with market speculators.. how can u explain most high rise in kl and kv 2 megayownships are sold and vacant? Or maybe u drive around to kv area and see thise vacant units like kajang.. palm walk3.. kajang 2.. jade hills... taman tasik semenyih.. bangi... 2 megatiwnships.. twin palms.. also notice why are there so many yellow tag asking for sale then it would give u a vleater picture.. even you intend to stay prices like 750k outskirt DSL is still very burdenand unreasonable.. this year they want to climb to 800k or more.. this price is inflated.. they reap 200k from this amount .. this a price 10 uears down the road.. if really long term maybe it is a gud deal.. then agai by then your prop 750k.. servicing loan of 3.5 k for 35 years.. lands your prop at 1.5 million.. outskirt OLD DSL... worth it or not..