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post Jan 13 2014, 09:55 PM, updated 12y ago

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*** Unofficial Rules Of Man Utd Street Talks *** [Last Update: 6/3/2007]


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Manchester United Club History

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Honours

Premiership (13): 1993, 1994, 1996, 1997, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2003, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2011, 2013
Division One Champions (7): 1908, 1911, 1952, 1956, 1957, 1965, 1967
Division Two Champions (2): 1936, 1975

European Cup/UEFA Champions League (3): 1968, 1999, 2008
European Cup-Winners' Cup (1): 1991
European Super Cup (1): 1991

FA Charity/Community Shield (19 (15 outright, 4 shared)): 1908, 1911, 1952, 1956, 1957, 1965*, 1967*, 1977*, 1983, 1990*, 1993, 1994, 1996, 1997, 2003, 2007, 2008, 2010, 2011 (* = joint holders)
FA Cup Winners (11): 1909, 1948, 1963, 1977, 1983, 1985, 1990, 1994, 1996, 1999, 2004
League Cup Winners (4): 1992, 2006, 2009, 2010

Toyota Inter-continental Cup Winners (1): 1999
FIFA Club World Cup (1): 2008

Managers

A. H. Albut [1892 - 1900]
James West [1900 - September 1903]
Ernest Magnall [10 October 1903 - 9 September 1912]
T. J. Wallworth [9 September 1912 - 20 October 1912]
John Bentley [28 October 1912 - 28 December 1914]
John Robson [28 December 1914 - 31 October 1921]
John Chapman [31 October 1921 - 8 October 1926]
Clarence Hildrith [8 October 1926 - 13 April 1927]
Herbert Bamlett [13 April 1927 - 9 November 1931]
Walter Crickmer [9 November 1931 - 13 July 1932]
Scott Duncan [13 July 1932 - 7 November 1937]
Walter Crickmer [9 November 1937 - 15 February 1945]
Matt Busby [1 October 1945 - 11 June 1969]
Jimmy Murphy [February 1958 - June 1958]
Wilf McGuinness [11 June 1969 - 29 December 1970]
Matt Busby [29 December 1970 - 8 June 1971]
Frank O'Farrell [8 June 1971 - 19 December 1972]
Tommy Docherty [22 December 1972 - 4 July 1977]
Dave Sexton [14 July 1977 - 29 April 1981]
Ron Atkinson [9 June 1981 - 6 November 1986]
Sir Alex Ferguson [6 November 1986 - 30 June 2013]
David Moyes [01 July 2013 - Present]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Manch..._and_statistics

Record Home Win: 10-0 v Anderlecht, 26/09/1956 (European Cup Preliminary Round, 2nd leg)
Record Home Defeat: 1-7 v Newcastle United, 10/09/1927 [Division 1]

Record Away Win: 8-1 v Nottingham Forest, 06/02/1999
Record Away Defeat: 0-7 v Blackburn Rovers, 10/04/1926 (Division 1) | 0-7 v Aston Villa, 27/12/1930 [Division 1] | 0-7 v Wolverhampton Wanderers, 26/12/1931 [Division 2]

Record Win: 10-0 v Anderlecht, 26/09/1956 (European Cup Preliminary Round, 2nd leg)
Record Defeat: 0-7 v Blackburn Rovers, 10/04/1926 (Division 1) | 0-7 v Aston Villa, 27/12/1930 [Division 1] | 0-7 v Wolverhampton Wanderers, 26/12/1931 [Division 2]

Record League Win: 10-1 v Wolves, 15/10/1892 (Division 1)
Record League Defeat: 0-7 v Blackburn Rovers, 10/04/1926 (Division 1) | 0-7 v Aston Villa, 27/12/1930 [Division 1] | 0-7 v Wolverhampton Wanderers, 26/12/1931 [Division 2]

Record Premier League Win: 9-0 v Ipswich Town, 04/03/1995
Record Premier League Defeat: 0-5 v Newcastle United, 20/10/1996 | 0-5 v Chelsea, 03/10/1999 | 1–6 v Manchester City, 23 October 2011

Record FA Cup Win: 8-0 v Yeovil Town, 12/02/1949
Record FA Cup Defeat: 1-7 v Burnley, 13/02/1901 [1st Round]

Record European Win: 10-0 v Anderlecht, 26/09/1956 (European Cup Preliminary Round, 2nd leg)
Record European Defeat: 0-5 v Sporting, 18/03/1964 [Cup Winners' Cup QF]

Record Champions League Win: 7-1 v Roma, 10/04/2007 [UCL QF, 2nd leg]

Record Home Attendance (At Old Trafford): 76,098 31/3/2007 Premier League (Man Utd vs Blackburn) (83,260 for United v Arsenal at Maine Road in 1948)

Record League Appearances: 659 (110) Ryan Giggs 1990 - Present (as of 06 May 2013) [940 (152) overall]

Record League Goalscorer: 199 [in 606 league appearances] Sir Bobby Charlton 1956/73

Record Transfer Fee Received: 80,000,000 pounds for Cristiano Ronaldo to Real Madrid (July 2009)

Record Transfer Fee Paid: 30,750,000 pounds for Dimitar Berbatov from Tottenham (August 2008)


As the world's biggest and richest club, Manchester United reach a global fanbase.

Part of the attraction for fans around the world has been the football luminaries, such as George Best and Sir Bobby Charlton, who have graced the Old Trafford turf in a Manchester United shirt over the years.

Recently, Manchester United have continued to attract or develop some of the game's biggest names, with England stalwarts such as Paul Scholes and David Beckham having been regular fixtures in the Reds line-up.

The Manchester United team, past and present, reads like a who's who of world football.

It is only fitting that a great team should grace a great stadium. And with Old Trafford's recent development and the closure of Wembley, the ground is easily the largest in English football, holding in excess of 60,000 fans.

Despite this capacity, the demand to see United in action is so great that tickets are hard to come by.

But it isn't only Manchester United fans who flock to Old Trafford. The standard of the ground is such that it regularly hosts high-profile games, most notably, the Champions League Final and Great Britain rugby league games.

Rock fans have also made use of the Reds's facilities, watching a number of high-profile acts at the ground.

But it's football that will forever be synonymous with the Reds famous ground - and with good reason.

The last decade has seen Manchester United under the shrewd leadership of Sir Alex Ferguson maintain a virtual stranglehold on the Premiership crown.

Manchester United has won the league no fewer than 18 times in their history. They are also Cup Kings too, winning the FA cup 11 times, the league cup 4 times, as well as winning the European Super Cup, European Cup Winner's Cup, and 3 times being crowned European Cup champions.

Manchester United has long become a name associated with success both on and off the pitch.

As club profits continue to grow, Manchester United have become one of the richest sports clubs on the planet.

With supporters club branches on every continent, it's hard to go any where in the world and not see somebody wearing the famous red shirt of Manchester United.

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Old Trafford

Nickname: The Red Devils

Ground: Old Trafford

Pitch Size: 116 x 76 yards (106.0704 x 69.4944 meter)

Capacity: 76,000

Address: Sir Matt Busby Way, Old Trafford, Manchester

Postcode: M160RA

Directions: From North: Leave the M60 at junction 12 for M602 (Salford / Manchester). At the end of M602 (Jtn 3) follow the signs for Salford Quays and Trafford Park. At the roundabout turn right into Trafford Road (A5063), then at the bridge over Manchester Ship canal, keep in the right hand lane and turn right. Next, follow this road round to Trafford Wharf Road, and then left onto Watersreach. Continue through the traffic lights onto Sir Matt Busby Way.

From South: Leave M6 at junction 19, then take the A56 towards Manchester Airport. Join the M56 to Manchester, going past the Airport and then follow the signs for the M60 (Leeds / Liverpool). Leave M60 at Jtn 7 (A56 Chester Road) following signs for Manchester United Football Club. Turn left into Sir Matt Busby Way.

Ticket prices: 25 pounds upwards, concessions from 12.50 pounds. Tickets for the home sections are usually only available to members of the club and are normally allocated by ballot.

Contact information: Ticket Office: 0161 868 8020
Main Telephone: 0161 868 8000

2013/2014 Home Kit

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QUOTE(zenix @ Nov 24 2009, 09:18 PM)
Hope Alien will sticky this info later.
Though written in 2006 so no Roy Keane yet.

Ex-United players that have moved on to become managers.

Written by Simon Stone (MARCH 22, 2006)

STEVE BRUCE (1987-1996): Took his first steps in management with Sheffield United in 1998, then swiftly moved on to Huddersfield, Wigan and Crystal Palace. Left Selhurst Park in acrimonious fashion after Birmingham targeted him as the replacement for Trevor Francis in 1991. Took Blues into the Premier League but after a heavy FA Cup defeat is struggling to keep his job.

MARTIN POWELL (1971-1983): Stylish and well-respected Scotland centre-half whose authoritative nature appeared to make him a natural for the management game. Lasted four months at Burnley.

SIR BOBBY CHARLTON (1956-1973): Arguably the finest English player of all time proved to be an unmitigated disaster as a manager. Claimed he was not given the resources to make a decent job of it at Preston but was never lured back into management following his departure after a single season.

STEVE COPPELL (1975-1983): After a knee injury cut his playing career short at just 28, Coppell turned his attention to management. Steered Crystal Palace into the FA Cup final and then third place in the old First Division - the Eagles' highest ever - the following season. It was the first of four stints in charge at Selhurst Park in a career which has seen him move to Manchester City (for only six games), Brentford and Brighton. Now at Reading and about to steer the Royals into the top flight for the first time.

PADDY CRERAND (1962-1971): A key figure in United's 1968 European Cup triumph, Crerand lasted five months at Northampton before getting the bullet and, like Charlton, never managed again.

MARK HUGHES (1983-86, 1988-95): Hughes was never tipped as a manager by Ferguson but has taken to the game with ease. Took Wales into the Euro 2004 play-offs. Took over at Blackburn shortly afterwards, steering Rovers away from danger in his first season. Currently in contention for a Champions League spot.

BRIAN KIDD (1967-1974): Another European Cup winner who proved to be a poor manager. Got itchy feet in 1998 after spending seven years as Sir Alex Ferguson's highly-rated assistant. Took command at Blackburn but dismissed six months later.

BRYAN ROBSON (1981-94): United's inspirational leader under Ron Atkinson and Ferguson. There are two schools of thought on his stint at Middlesbrough - he either spent lots and achieved little (relegation and two losing finals) or he laid the platform for the Teessiders to become an established Premiership outfit. Kept West Brom up in extraordinary fashion last year but back in trouble again this season.

GORDON STRACHAN (1984-89): Scotland international who won the FA Cup with United and the title of the pre-Premiership era with Leeds. Sacked after five years at when the Sky Blues lost top-flight status, then enjoyed success at Southampton - reaching the 2003 Cup final - before resigning to spend more time with his family. Now at Celtic, has recovered from a humiliating Champions League exit to Artmedia Bratislava, and, after winning his first trophy on Sunday in the CIS Insurance Cup, is set to clinch the Scottish Premier League.

NOBBY STILES (1960-71): Along with Charlton, one of only two Englishmen to have won the World Cup and European Cup, he replaced his former England and United team-mate at Preston, with limited success. After a brief stint in Vancouver, returned to England to take over as manager of West Brom. Sacked after five months, having gained just three wins.
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post Jan 13 2014, 09:57 PM

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Season 2013/2014 Fixtures & Results * Last Update: 10/02/2014 *


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[Fixtures On manutd.com]

Please note, all dates are provisional and are heavily subject to change.

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Manchester United Squad Photo 2013/2014

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Manchester United 2013-2014 Squad List [Squad number - Player Name] * Last update: 16/08/2013 *

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Barclays Premier League squad numbers 2013/14

1. De Gea (GK); 2. Rafael; 3. Evra; 4. Jones; 5. Ferdinand; 6. Evans; 8. Juan Mata; 10. Rooney; 11. Giggs; 12. Smalling; 13. Lindegaard (GK); 14. Chicharito; 15. Vidic; 16. Carrick; 17. Nani; 18. Young; 19. Welbeck; 20. v. Persie; 21. Henríquez; 22. Fabio; 23. Cleverley; 24. Fletcher; 25. Valencia; 26. Kagawa; 27. Macheda; 28.Büttner; 29. Zaha; 30. Varela; 31. Wootton; 32. Powell; 33. Bébé; 34. Cole; 35. Lingard; 36. Vermijl; 38. M.Keane; 39. Thorpe; 40. Amos (GK); 42. Blackett; 44. Januzaj; 45. Petrucci; 48. W.Keane; 50. Johnstone (GK).


http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features...-2013-2014.aspx

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Reon's Signatures Collections

Here you can find all the signatures created by our official Man Utd Street Talk signatures provider, Reon cool.gif

Siggy 1-10

Siggy 1 Siggy 2 Siggy 3 Siggy 4 Siggy 5

Siggy 6 Siggy 7 Siggy 8 Siggy 9 Siggy 10

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Siggy 41-50

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Siggy 141-150 ** 27/04/2011 - New Siggy Added (#149-150) **

Siggy 141 Siggy 142 Siggy 143 Siggy 144 Siggy 145

Siggy 146 Siggy 147 Siggy 148 Siggy 149 Siggy 150

Siggy 151-160 ** 02/06/2011 - New Siggy Added (#151-154) **

Siggy 151 Siggy 152 Siggy 153 Siggy 154

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If Cristiano Ronaldo doesn't win the FIFA Ballon D’Or tonight.....I will run down the street butt naked! Won't be a great sight I tell ya!! Come on CR7!
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As the month wears down, I'm feeling more pessimistic that we'll see a signing this window. Plenty of rumours but sooooo little action.
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AC Milan manager Allegri have been sack due to poor result and standing (currently 11th). Might as well buy their player.

Stephen El Shaarawy? Nigel De Jong? Philippe Mexes? Sulley Muntari?
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Zaha and fabio to cardiff on loan? yes please!
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Ronaldo....best in the world once again cry.gif cry.gif
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finally...

the award is overdue if you ask me. he's pretty much carried the whole real madrid team on his back since the first day he sign for real madrid.
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at last.... he deserved it biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(damnself @ Jan 13 2014, 11:47 PM)
AC Milan manager Allegri have been sack due to poor result and standing (currently 11th). Might as well buy their player.

Stephen El Shaarawy? Nigel De Jong? Philippe Mexes? Sulley Muntari?
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Moyes to AC. You guys can then get whoever manager from the wishlist.
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Congratulation to Ronaldo. He truly deserved the title, easily the best player of 2013. Sorry Messi, another year perhaps tongue.gif

This week no game :/
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2008 - Ronaldo won Ballon D'or
2010 - Join Real Madrid.

2013 - Ronaldo won Ballon D'or
2015 - Join ?? brows.gif
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QUOTE(Prince of Andalus @ Jan 13 2014, 11:05 PM)
@rioferdy5

If Cristiano Ronaldo doesn't win the FIFA Ballon D’Or tonight.....I will run down the street butt naked! Won't be a great sight I tell ya!! Come on CR7!
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Hell yeah gonna agree wif rio...i'll join the naked butt run as well...
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2008 - Ronaldo won Ballon D'or
2010 - Join Real Madrid.

2013 - Ronaldo won Ballon D'or
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Monaco? PSG? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(raizo7 @ Jan 14 2014, 02:07 PM)
Monaco? PSG? hmm.gif
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lol, guessing about whr Ronaldo would, better guess what will happen to moyes la
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Sorry united fans Chelsea just sign midfield general nemanja matic.... smile.gif
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jan 14 2014, 10:38 PM)
Sorry united fans Chelsea just sign midfield general nemanja matic.... smile.gif
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Sumpah tak kesah
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Sorry united fans Chelsea just sign midfield general nemanja matic.... smile.gif
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But.. since when we are interested in him?

Let alone sell him for 3 million and paid 25mil to resign him. LOL. What a business indeed for Benfica.
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Sorry united fans Chelsea just sign midfield general nemanja matic.... smile.gif
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trade ngn luiz pastu kna beli mhal2

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Sorry united fans Chelsea just sign midfield general nemanja matic.... smile.gif
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This shud make them happy. A matter of time before Mata leaves Chelsea. Who knows it might be to Old Trafford.
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Matic is a good candidate to replace carrick. But he's still not our main priority. We can go for carvarlho in summer brows.gif

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QUOTE(andrewtho @ Jan 14 2014, 11:03 PM)
But.. since when we are interested in him?

Let alone sell him for 3 million and paid 25mil to resign him. LOL. What a business indeed for Benfica.
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Moyes might love to the same with Pogba..

tbh, its quite disappointed to see our rivals do transfers quite swiftly.

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Crap, heard that Rafael might leave this summer too? Gosh, how many of our players want to leave just because of one not so productive season? sad.gif
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I think its not because the season, but working with the not so known manager..mayb la..
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QUOTE(dundermifflin @ Jan 15 2014, 08:45 AM)
Moyes might love to the same with Pogba..

tbh, its quite disappointed to see our rivals do transfers quite swiftly.
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True but Pogba's case is rather complicated. Probably one of Fergie's mistake for not assuring regular starting spot for Pogba, which lead to him leaving the club, Pogba and Morrison are very exquisite talents but they are impatient...that is the problem.

Another 15-16 days left, have faith in Kayu lolol
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post Jan 15 2014, 10:40 AM

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kayu will sign fernanda lima from brazil as our new head of physio. u hear it here 1st!!! drool.gif brows.gif brows.gif
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Vidic also not renewing his contract? Cant imagine our defence next season without any replacement sad.gif
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Vidic also not renewing his contract? Cant imagine our defence next season without any replacement  sad.gif
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heard that Moyes want to get Baines as replacement to Evra..

we had Fellaini, now Baines, sooner more Everton players will becone MU,..then only we will see Moyes potential

we will become a regular mid-table team with this setup. damn
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Powell score 2 again..nice..
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Crap, heard that Rafael might leave this summer too? Gosh, how many of our players want to leave just because of one not so productive season? sad.gif
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Rafael wont leave le. Fabio maybe la...

The one leaving in summer i think would be, Kagawa(Wants to be playing his favourite number 10 role), Chicarito(With his ability to score goals everytime he plays, he wants to be playing regularly), Evra(Obviously will be replaced by a new left back), Vidic(I hope that we can convince him to stay for another 1 -2 years?), Young, Anderson, Nani. (Some might leave in january like anderson, nani). And ferdinand will be retiring i guess.

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no movement yet. maybe unveil new player at next game? brows.gif
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ow shiet i just realized ada 15 days left for January transfer.

god dammit why no news at all. WHY
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With our current squad, if we can get draw at their place should be ok, if we can snatch a win will be a bonus tongue.gif

Is Rooney back this coming match? Or we stick with Welbeck or Chicarito?
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in the end DM will sign Osman...Im so gonna rage
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so another last minute panic buy again?
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actually quite happy with moyes go around scouting ppl, or maybe i just wan someone new in united shirt
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Jan 15 2014, 06:30 PM)
so another last minute panic buy again?
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The fact that we have not signed anyone is making me nervous
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Leighton Baines is close to agreeing a new long-term deal to stay at Everton.

Former Toffees manager David Moyes twice failed in his efforts to take the 29-year-old England left-back with him to Manchester United last summer.

Now Everton are increasingly confident they will shortly be able to confirm Baines, who signed for £6m from Wigan in August 2007, has committed the rest of his top-flight career to the club.

It is thought the deal could be worth £75,000 per week to Baines.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25745171

Next target please whistling.gif
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Astori sounds realistic and interesting, he might as well be direct replacement for evra, hence Rafael get the license to move forward more.
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Astori sounds realistic and interesting, he might as well be direct replacement for evra, hence Rafael get the license to move forward more.
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astori is a centre back lol.
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he's been playing at left back at some occasions, left-footed, has decent technique, in case you're not aware.
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he's been playing at left back at some occasions, left-footed, has decent technique, in case you're not aware.
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Definitely not a direct replacement for evra because that's not even his original position. He's well known for being a centre-back(Great replacement for vidic). You can check the positions he has played this season: http://www.whoscored.com/Players/44643/

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I want the old nani back.. was looking at all his goals... they were awesome.. he needs games and stop being injured!!
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i expect Moyes will buy a CM, if he allow Anderson to leave this January. not a big name for sure, but we will pay above market price, as we are desperate and rumour said we have a massive transfer kitty.

the big purchase only happen in the next summer. a CM, a LB and Rooney saga will resume again.
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finger crossed moyes can sign a cm within 15 days though very unlikely.
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vidal + Gündoğan; anyone?
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with all the travels, i dont think we'll get anyone in. It's more like early preparation for a busy summer.

in fact, i see this transition period the same when saf just took over and cleaned up the squad with beer that time. well, only thing is this time is without the beer part.

read an article from robbie savage in bbc that 12 players should leave. oso the Big Dane said that the hunger + spirit in the squad is no longer there compared to those days.

no hunger, no spirit, no keano-esque fire in the squad. dun blame all these to DM alone.

#berdiritegang

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For how many season already we've been waiting for Ando to step up, up to a point where today we want to let him go laugh.gif
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Wigan boss has agreed to reassess the situition of powell in the last week of january.

We can expect to see a CM joining us if anderson does leave. Its either powell or mystery midfielder!

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So far, i did not see any impact on Anderson. Right now Rooney is doubt for Chelsea match, i think will be the same player vs Swansea to take on Chelsea.
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Roo and RVP both out, still am happy to see kagawa and Janu at their right position and doing their best.

Gundogan saying he might decide his future soon, so, maybe a 0.1% chance? tongue.gif

I don't see that we will get anyone too. praying we can reach top 4 for UCL spot. Heard that nani and ando is leaving, and maybe fabio, vida, and evra too.
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here's the link on the robbie savage article. some truth in it. but pinch of salt tho. it all depends on DM, the chosen one.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/25665649
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^ yup agree on some but to let go up 12 player mcm player united sampah sgt
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QUOTE(Giann @ Jan 16 2014, 03:06 PM)
Wigan boss has agreed to reassess the situition of powell in the last week of january.

We can expect to see a CM joining us if anderson does leave. Its either powell or mystery midfielder!
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I think nick powell's best position is attacking midfield or striker... a bit wasteful playing him as central midfielder because he gets you goals in that position

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That being said, Holt has join Villa on loan leaving Wigan without a main striker. So there's a high chance that Powell will play most of Wigan's remaining matches.

Lingard in Zaha out?
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I think nick powell's best position is attacking midfield or striker... a bit wasteful playing him as central midfielder because he gets you goals in that position
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QUOTE(sinoffire @ Jan 16 2014, 05:13 PM)
here's the link on the robbie savage article. some truth in it. but pinch of salt tho. it all depends on DM, the chosen one.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/25665649
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interesting read. would be surprised if that many players (12) leave though. my guess is between now and during the summer 3-4 will be shipped out. as for signings, i'd be surprised if we sign anyone in january (since we are already 2 weeks in without any sign). summer would be more likely.

i hope i am wrong about the january window tongue.gif


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Patrice evra is injured. OMG. against chelsea somemore.
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What wrong with rvp hair??
Did he purposely color it white??
It can't be his original hair..he is 30 years old? Still should be black
Even if got also wont be so obvious like right now


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What wrong with rvp hair??
Did he purposely color it white??
It can't be his original hair..he is 30 years old? Still should be black
Even if got also wont be so obvious like right now
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u like the older hair style?

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What wrong with rvp hair??
Did he purposely color it white??
It can't be his original hair..he is 30 years old? Still should be black
Even if got also wont be so obvious like right now
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The iceman cometh tongue.gif
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QUOTE(zenix @ Jan 17 2014, 09:03 AM)
u like the older hair style?

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We loan out ando without get another cm.
Moyes you suck.
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i hope ando get back his match fitness....loose some weight..and hit back the engine!!!
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We loan out ando without get another cm.
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at one glance, he looks like falcao. laugh.gif

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so apparently we are selling anderson and keeping cleverley.. we are so dumb =)
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Its the same hair style just the color and yes i like older one
His hair color now is weird..looks like old people
So is it his natural hair or he color it

I notice his last season at arsenal he got that white hair
But now at man utd it is really obvious
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Are we bidding for luke shaw
http://sulia.com/truered/f/8ef1c194-87d6-4...f-d6db41af254e/
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so are we selling anderson or loaning him???? I dah konfius...

edit: okay its on loan.. website confirm already =P

http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features...na-on-loan.aspx

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May ando shines in florence. If he can stay fit, he'll be a hit for fiorentina
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QUOTE(playxboxwii @ Jan 17 2014, 07:58 AM)
What wrong with rvp hair??
Did he purposely color it white??
It can't be his original hair..he is 30 years old? Still should be black
Even if got also wont be so obvious like right now
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looks good,better than last time laugh.gif
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If fiorentina deploy him as AM, think he'll succeed. He jus don't have the stamina for box to box CM.

What a waste of talent, playing him out of his favored role and labelled a failure in United sad.gif
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Evra, Rooney and RVP both out Chelsea match, lucky Mourinho is the type that will satisfy with 1-0, 2-0 win, if not we might see another 5-1 or 6-1 happen sweat.gif sweat.gif
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QUOTE(nazanto @ Jan 17 2014, 03:25 PM)
We loan out ando without get another cm.
Moyes you suck.
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QUOTE(projectnew @ Jan 17 2014, 07:22 PM)
so apparently we are selling anderson and keeping cleverley.. we are so dumb =)
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QUOTE(projectnew @ Jan 17 2014, 11:17 PM)
so are we selling anderson or loaning him???? I dah konfius...

edit: okay its on loan.. website confirm already =P

http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features...na-on-loan.aspx
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QUOTE(legendofhafiz @ Jan 18 2014, 12:14 AM)
May ando shines in florence. If he can stay fit, he'll be a hit for fiorentina
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mane tau.jpeg tetiba kat sana ando dpt build up his potential n get back his fitness n game time link up with rossi sket...summer comeback at his best n shit on jerat again...maybe he needs to get away a lil bit...some fresh air...out of his comfort zone n comeback a classy player he used to be...
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Realistically, what is achievable between now and the end of the season?

It's hard to say. My view is that the results in the next six or seven matches will tell us what our aim is for the rest of the season. The next game is Chelsea away - a tough match, but if we win we'll only be six points behind Chelsea. That still gives us a chance to think about maybe winning the title. I know, at the moment, it maybe doesn’t sound right to think that way [when you look at the table], but we still hope that with a few wins in a row we can still challenge and from there we can see what our position is.

So you haven't given up on the title?

No, I'm not giving up, not yet.

http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features...e.aspx?pageNo=2

from the captain...tho some will laugh it off or pfffttt...i share his view n spirit...
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QUOTE(nshady @ Jan 16 2014, 12:16 AM)
Definitely not a direct replacement for evra because that's not even his original position. He's well known for being a centre-back(Great replacement for vidic). You can check the positions he has played this season: http://www.whoscored.com/Players/44643/
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Pardon the late reply but gotta agree with you on this. Davide Astori's original position is Centre Back. It's like putting Phil Jones in CM for long term when his original position is CB.

Lel.. long term replacement for Evra. *facepalm*
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when top teams clash..form /league position goes out of the equation..it's a funny game..mourinho is kinda right, usually the team most unexpected to win will come out on top in big games. so i won't be surprised if moyes is the one who ends mourinho home league record, as absurd as that sounds smile.gif
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Waliao everyone not dropping points... this season all the top teams damn semangat.. I think because they know united not challenging so they are taking full opportunity.. so hard to play catch up now..
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Waliao everyone not dropping points... this season all the top teams damn semangat.. I think because they know united not challenging so they are taking full opportunity.. so hard to play catch up now..
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looks good,better than last time laugh.gif
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But it looks weird.. Bcause his hair got white color
does he have any hair grown problem or what
If he color all white i can underatnd but this one seems original , natural hair
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My view on United,

Fergie starts from Bruce, Ince , Hughes followed by Class of 92 era and then Ronaldo, Vidic, Carrick + few from class of 92 era. Now all gone.

United really miss Ferguson, someone who can rebuild a championship winning in just 2-3 years. Moyes ? Hahahaha

Only Ferguson can win the premiership with ageing Vidic, Ferdinand and Evra at the back 4. Look how shit was Evra this season? Ferguson done very miracle work last season.
Of course with the help of Van Persie who make a different last season.

All what United have is just 2 world class striker. Rooney and Van Persie. All other players are just mediocre player. How can you win a title with Carrick, Fletcher, Cleverly in midfield ?
Winger ? Valencia, Nani and Young all shit.

Moyes need time. You can't rebuild a team in just 2-3 years. How many years did Chelsea and City took to win a title after Abramovich and "Pak Arab" buy their club ?
Of course United can't throw $100millions in just 1 transfer season. They had to pay Glazer's debt. But they have Moyes. Someone who bring stability to Everton, a club who do not have transfer budget. They had to sell first before they can buy (proof).

Just my 20 sen. Hehehe. So boring maa tengah-tengah malam. But, As a Chelsea fan, i even have more faith in Moyes than MU fans themselves. whistling.gif whistling.gif whistling.gif

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QUOTE(swasts @ Jan 19 2014, 05:57 AM)
My view on United,

Fergie starts from Bruce, Ince , Hughes followed by Class of 92 era and then Ronaldo, Vidic, Carrick + few from class of 92 era. Now all gone.

United really miss Ferguson, someone who can rebuild a championship winning in just 2-3 years. Moyes ? Hahahaha

Only Ferguson can win the premiership with ageing Vidic, Ferdinand and Evra at the back 4. Look how shit was Evra this season? Ferguson done very miracle work last season.
Of course with the help of Van Persie who make a different last season.

All what United have is just 2 world class striker. Rooney and Van Persie. All other players are just mediocre player. How can you win a title with Carrick, Fletcher, Cleverly in midfield ?
Winger ? Valencia, Nani and Young all shit.

Moyes need time. You can't rebuild a team in just 2-3 years. How many years did Chelsea and City took to win a title after Abramovich and "Pak Arab" buy their club ?
Of course United can't throw $100millions in just 1 transfer season. They had to pay Glazer's debt. But they have Moyes. Someone who bring stability to Everton, a club who do not have transfer budget. They had to sell first before they can buy (proof).

Just my 20 sen. Hehehe. So boring maa tengah-tengah malam. But, As a Chelsea fan, i even have more faith in Moyes than MU fans themselves.  whistling.gif  whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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Ashley young and Phil jones are in squad travelling to London. but no sight of rooney and rvp.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...van-Persie.html

Odds are grim for us but oh well. just give the best possible display and pray lady luck on our side tonight
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Sure cant win tonight. Even fergie has bad record jumpa mourinho. Inikan pula moyes who never win there.
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quite pessimist for tonight game. i rather focus on win Sunderland's game. but hopefully our players and Moyes will not think the same.

no tension if we lose, but fight bravely pls..

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Optimistic la.

Have faith. If we fall, pick ourselves up and rise again. Every defeat is a new lesson learnt, improvise and improve. That is how we roll. If we are always negative ahead of games, will it do any good?
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Mourinho never lost premier league home game for Chelsea...its take miracle to get a win with our current player/form

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Try to be optimism, hope can get a draw :|
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Ashley young and Phil jones are in squad travelling to London. but no sight of rooney and rvp.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...van-Persie.html

Odds are grim for us but oh well. just give the best possible display and pray lady luck on our side tonight
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Evra got?
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I know this will sound really bad... but fergie not giving pogba chance had really made us lose one of the best future midfielders ever... something we could used desperately right now.. now we are freaking stuck with cleverley!!!!! So annoying.. Imagine if fergie would have dealt the situation better.. pogba + januzaj + nickpowell+ zaha +rooney + van persie .. mouth watering attacking line up.. and future secured..

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mid table teams tend to get shock win from time to time brows.gif
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David Moyes has told Sky Sports -
"The number of big players wanting to join Manchester United is incredible. "
5 minutes ago
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starting XI vs Chelsea: De Gea; Rafael, Evans, Vidic, Evra; Valencia, Carrick, Jones, Young; Januzaj, Welbeck.

subs vs Chelsea: Lindegaard, Giggs, Smalling, Hernandez, Cleverley, Fletcher, Kagawa.

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Not that hard to imagine lots of players would love to join us. Us getting them is a different matter of course. Money talks.
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post Jan 19 2014, 11:32 PM

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Kagawa not starting...sleep not watching lol
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After 2nd half success against swansea...we have a complete different line up yet again..... haizzz
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I dun think we are good at holding the midfield at all. Why cant just put an attacking line up then?
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Have mourinho ever lost at home after losing 2-0? Very curious to know..
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we r just unlucky with the 2 goals.. todays selection actually make sense, compact the midfield and try to dominate possesions but just another "unlucky" day
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we r just unlucky with the 2 goals.. todays selection actually make sense, compact the midfield and try to dominate possesions but just another "unlucky" day
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Selection doesn't make sense with Ashley young starting infront of kagawa. And Fletcher who played good in the Swansea game was in the bench???
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With the current performance & chelsea at their peak moreover at bridge..what else to expect than losing. A draw would be good enough. But dont see that happen for now.
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We actually played very well compared to most of our game this season.. Problem is our finishing.. Too bad roo and rvp are not available.. And too bad its against chelsea.. Just play whats left for this season.. Cant wait too look forward next season.. Sigh heartbreaking
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QUOTE(tatabun @ Jan 20 2014, 12:55 AM)
We actually played very well compared to most of our game this season.. Problem is our finishing.. Too bad roo and rvp are not available.. And too bad its against chelsea.. Just play whats left for this season.. Cant wait too look forward next season.. Sigh heartbreaking
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Not just finishing..... they cannot even create enough good chances... only Januzaj is trying to do something, others just stand there ball watching...
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jones doesnt justify his selection over fletcher!

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Not just finishing..... they cannot even create enough good chances... only Januzaj is trying to do something, others just stand there ball watching...
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Young is soooooooooo out..
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Exactly...midfield created nothing! Loop the ball upfront, back pass, side pass then winger got stucked cant get pass the full back...frustrating.

Young is soooooooooo out..
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Better accept it and move on. Its against chelsea away after all.

Another 6-0 thrashing just because you want to go for it even knowing full well that you are out your depth would not make anybody's life easier.
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btw kagawa was not selected today bcos defensively, physically and pace are not his best attribute... 3-0 down, moyes should bring in more centre forwaed

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this is the 'hina' team and performance i ever saw since i support MU, still got time if moyes sack by today
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If the result keep like this I think better moyes drop all the squad and put our youth squad...at least they can gain experience...
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since moyes will not be saked, therefore he should voluntarily resign before making it worse by chasing our players away... lol... chelsea fans, mourinho and fans around the world will be shocked or i must say already numb to see us play like this
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so slow no urgency at all. we need attacking midfield.
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QUOTE(siksa @ Jan 20 2014, 01:21 AM)
so slow no urgency at all. we need attacking midfield.
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we played great with Fletcher--Carrick and Valencia--Kagawa--Januzaj last week, and Moyes didnt even had the balls to try it out against top teams...it just shows how conservative his mind set is doh.gif
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Name the players u want gone. I'll start.

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QUOTE(dlct87 @ Jan 20 2014, 01:25 AM)
we played great with Fletcher--Carrick and Valencia--Kagawa--Januzaj last week, and Moyes didnt even had the balls to try it out against top teams...it just shows how conservative his mind set is doh.gif
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why united rarely attack from the middle ?

keep on playing wide and wild crosses.

damn bored.
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why united rarely attack from the middle ?

keep on playing wide and wild crosses.

damn bored.
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Name the players u want gone. I'll start.

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better get new manager ..

if next season moyes get 200mil to spend, i think he will be end up like mark hughes at m.city.
Pay high price for an average players (just like he bought fellaini)
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Finally, a supply
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better get new manager ..

if next season moyes get 200mil to spend, i think he will be end up like mark hughes at m.city.
Pay high price for an average players (just like he bought fellaini)
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Glazers are full of shite... We wont spend that much
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ref so kayu.
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they say they can win the title - Rooney & Van persie & giggs is the best!
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Not only for chelsea...
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Only need 1 out

MOYES
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Should have shown red for that so we could just buy....
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midfield x kreatif puiii, same old strategy, go end of the line n then cross >..<
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Keseduhan tidak terhingga
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Same result
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QUOTE(CalintzZ @ Jan 20 2014, 01:54 AM)
midfield x kreatif puiii, same old strategy, go end of the line n then cross >..<
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as long as valencia still playin we will
play same strategy, same old same old
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Same players as last season. So spot the difference??
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xde player macam rooney,smua malas berat bontot -.-
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Name the players u want gone. I'll start.

1.young
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5. Cleverly
6. Welbeck
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8. Giggs (please retire and give chance to youngster)
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What to expect when young and welbeck start ahead of chicharito and kagawa
Move on, next match please...
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Why the hell we dont buy anyone this jan transfer window?if cannot buy star player, just buy youth player that have potential...if keep losing better use our youth player terus...at least they can gain experience than still using damn old sh*t...
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our team w/o rooney n rvp cant even win d league for championship
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Where do we go on from here?
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i was expecting young win us penalty. not doing his job!

really playing like everton.. vs big team ... kena trashing.. like dead fish once trailing.. lucky mourinho take out oscar, else more goal mari
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we could be staring at double digit of loses this season, now tell me that's acceptable or not for a club like Manchester United?
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we got new people?
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5. Cleverly
6. Welbeck
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8. Giggs (please retire and give chance to youngster)
9. Anderson
10. Fellaini (shouldn't bought him at the 1st place)
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Cleverly still useful as squad player imo should not start a game tho
Cant see welbz leaving
Fellaini just arrive dont see him leaving

I agree with the others.

I think vidic wants to leave too.

Massive summer clearout and rebuilding to be done. Just hope we have the money.


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u think rooney wana stay if we finish 8th? no way man
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We always got money lol but moyes dont wan to buy good player, our scout also so shyt
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well,

to be honest, i thought we were playing pretty well, given the selection of squad being played on the field,

better than the last 10 games we played so far lol. less loose balls.

i believe we were playing at our squad max capability. but of course, playing against a top team like chelsea exposes the glaring weaknesses we have, notably the defense and the lack of creativity in the midfielder.

If we are to keep on playing with our usual tactic of crossing the ball into the penalty box, we need to have better delivery. I believe non of our crosses went successfully connected to a striker today.
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Please... Rooney and RVP cannot do sh*t if there is no creativity in the midfield. No supply they also cannot do anything...
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well,

to be honest, i thought we were playing pretty well, given the selection of squad being played on the field,

better than the last 10 games we played so far lol. less loose balls.

i believe we were playing at our squad max capability. but of course, playing against a top team like chelsea exposes the glaring weaknesses we have, notably the defense and the lack of creativity in the midfielder.

If we are to keep on playing with our usual tactic of crossing the ball into the penalty box, we need to have better delivery. I believe non of our crosses went successfully connected to a striker today.
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we didnt played at our max capability, like i said earlier, we played well with Fletcher--Carrick, plus Valencia--Kagawa--Januzaj

2 of the players aren't even being played today
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miracle la we can finish 4th spot...mark my words
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QUOTE(dlct87 @ Jan 20 2014, 02:10 AM)
we didnt played at our max capability, like i said earlier, we played well with Fletcher--Carrick, plus Valencia--Kagawa--Januzaj

2 of the players aren't even being played today
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i mean, given the selection of squad being played today on the field.

as for the selection of players to be played on the field, well, let's just say some of our hardcore supporters are not too keen with us criticizing the choice the manager made and will brush off our comments by saying that managing a real life team is not the same as your video game football manager sim. laugh.gif went down that path, regretted. laugh.gif

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We are obviously missing the creativity of our midfield wizard tom cleverley

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QUOTE(G_KeN @ Jan 20 2014, 02:13 AM)
i mean, given the selection of squad being played today on the field.

as for the selection of players to be played on the field, well, let's just say some of our hardcore supporters are not too keen with us criticizing the choice the manager made and will brush off our comments by saying that managing a real life team is not the same as your video game football manager sim.  laugh.gif went down that path, regretted.  laugh.gif
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or mayb moyes need to play fm now
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QUOTE(G_KeN @ Jan 20 2014, 02:13 AM)
i mean, given the selection of squad being played today on the field.

as for the selection of players to be played on the field, well, let's just say some of our hardcore supporters are not too keen with us criticizing the choice the manager made and will brush off our comments by saying that managing a real life team is not the same as your video game football manager sim.  laugh.gif went down that path, regretted.  laugh.gif
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Maybe only for the first 10 minutes... before their 1st goal.... rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(sheng @ Jan 20 2014, 02:14 AM)
We are obviously missing the creativity of our midfield wizard tom cleverley
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So true.. And young should have play full 90 mins
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still in running for the title? top 4 also dunno can get anot
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We are obviously missing the creativity of our midfield wizard tom cleverley
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im not sure if you're being serious or being sarcastic laugh.gif

anyways, i would have preferred kagawa to play CM for the creativity spark and using only 1 midfielder (carrick or fletcher) as our holding midfielder.

in most of the games i watched, 1 of the CM (either cleverly or jones or fellaini) would render useless because you cant play 2 holding midfielders at the same time.
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We are obviously missing the creativity of our midfield wizard tom cleverley
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djemba jemba +liam miller +kleberson much better than him

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QUOTE(G_KeN @ Jan 20 2014, 02:17 AM)
im not sure if you're being serious or being sarcastic laugh.gif

anyways, i would have preferred kagawa to play CM for the creativity spark and using only 1 midfielder (carrick or fletcher) as our holding midfielder.

in most of the games i watched, 1 of the CM (either cleverly or jones or fellaini) would render useless because you cant play 2 holding midfielders at the same time.
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Don't think that would work either.... that will probably leaking more goals... considering how Evra defend nowadays... and those pretty useless wingers in attacking/defending
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djemba jemba +liam miller much better than his
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or maybe Kleberson

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Don't think that would work either.... that will probably leaking more goals... considering how Evra defend nowadays... and those pretty useless wingers in attacking/defending
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well, my suggestion was solely from the perspective of the lack of creativity in the midfielder.

of course, poor defending is another issue that is needed to be addressed in its entirety differently. laugh.gif
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too bad we only bought carrick n then no replacement untill now only buy winger +striker, thats y we only play same strategy winger style over n over again
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lets see...
we still have city, pool, arsenal, everton (i think).
damn it...i dun think we can get top 4...haha
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If we want to qualify for next season UCL, we seriously need to add buy a new player. A creative + stronger one. Yes, we have kagawa, but its useless if DM don't even want to use him because of his physical aspects.

This is a shity performance today, and I hope DM understand it and do something about it instead of give an excuses as before.


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QUOTE(Ramli08 @ Jan 20 2014, 02:24 AM)
too bad we only bought carrick n then no replacement untill now only buy winger +striker, thats y we only play same strategy winger style over n over again
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well, our former winger (read: RONALDO) played a very different style than the ones we currently have, because he didnt simply play one dimensional crossing games. lol. he cut across the opponent midfielders regularly and actually had the initiative to shoot whenever he could and was always available inside the penalty box whenever other players cross the ball.
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QUOTE(oli-78 @ Jan 20 2014, 02:27 AM)
If we want to qualify for next season UCL, we seriously need to add buy a new player. A creative + stronger one. Yes, we have kagawa, but its useless if DM don't even want to use him because of his physical aspects.

This is a shity performance today, and I hope DM understand it and do something about it instead of give an excuses as before.
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well, reality strikes. none from the transfer rumors actually wanted to move to man utd this january period. summer maybe, but certainly not this month.

oh well, there's always next season. (without UCL cry.gif )
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any post match reaction from moyes yet?

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any post match reaction from moyes yet?
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Manchester United manager David Moyes, speaking to BBC Sport: "We did not deserve to be 2-0 down at half time. We had a little bit of bad luck with the first one but we can't blame anyone else but ourselves for the other two. We did not defend well enough and did not get a chance like Chelsea got to score, so we can only blame ourselves for that.
"I thought we played well in parts of the game. We played well at the start, we just missed the clinical finish. We didn't score in their box and we didn't defend well in our box. I thought we did well in between the two boxes, but then did not do what was required in the crucial areas.
"We will keep going. We showed a lot of good things today. There is a progress we have to make and improve all round and myself and the club will try to do that."
On Vidic's sending off and Rafael's booking: "I have not seen Rafa's but I have seen Vidic's. Vidic's for me is not a red card, it was a yellow card. If Rafa's was a bad one I would hopefully come out honestly and say what I think."
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samuel etoo is the first chelsea player to scored hattrick against MU since 1954.....another record that was broken by moyes...
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So optimistic guys apa macam? Still ok kan semua? "your job now is to stand by our new manager. That is important"
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Europa is okay. UCL is a bonus i guess. United all the way.
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Jan 20 2014, 03:56 AM)
Europa is okay. UCL is a bonus i guess. United all the way.
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at this rate Europa oso cant qualify...unless we won a Capital One cup

difficult or not this January we must sign at least 1 midfielder coz Anderson gone now
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I feel that we should sign draxler way better than young...
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So optimistic guys apa macam? Still ok kan semua? "your job now is to stand by our new manager. That is important"
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i still support Moyes. all parties should shoulder the blame..

Valencia (or whoever crossed from the right wing). WTF, he (or they) kept overhit crossing to the other flank..
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Moyes did it again. Not playing Kagawa again.
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just so when the previous game formation and selection were correctly picked.. the next game changed again.. Moyes! Why you keep changing?!
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QUOTE(jackiewong @ Jan 20 2014, 07:56 AM)
just so when the previous game formation and selection were correctly picked.. the next game changed again.. Moyes! Why you keep changing?!
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Yes..same thought.... no answer... then interview same old line "i thought we played well" repeat again n again when lose..

Well? Well below par!
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QUOTE(Seoliem @ Jan 20 2014, 03:12 AM)
at this rate Europa oso cant qualify...unless we won a Capital One cup

difficult or not this January we must sign at least 1 midfielder coz Anderson gone now
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FA cup winners only got euro placing la. League cup don't have, isn't it ?
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Yes..same thought.... no answer... then interview same old line "i thought we played well" repeat again n again when lose..

Well? Well below par!
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I thought we played well for 1st 10mins. after that, poor defending, slow movement, useless cross, wrong passes.... keep repeating..



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Moyes old tactics let me remind of few years back of Arsene Wenger before Wilkshere and Ramsey appeared, every match they just send to winger to cross when they can't find a good quality midfielder.

Seriously, Evra is really having problem play both attacking and defending at the same time. Winger.... Speechless.... Can't imagine winger can produce such a "quality" in crossing. ( miss the old days beckham cross T__T ). Midfielder..... I don't see them often holding the ball, instead of often tackling the opponents. We still short RVP and Wazza.....

We are having problem in all position. The only player that I think he played good yesterday is Rafael, he really kept Hazard quiet after a series of string performance few games back.

Again. I don't think buying player now would solve the problem ASAP, but at least can give them more option in changing the tactics, instead of just crossing. And none of the player express interest in joining Man U. cry.gif
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QUOTE(dundermifflin @ Jan 20 2014, 07:32 AM)
i still support Moyes. all parties should shoulder the blame..

Valencia (or whoever crossed from the right wing). WTF, he (or they) kept overhit crossing to the other flank..
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then who kept on picking them into the starting lineup? who conducted the training sessions? players needed to be blamed as well, but the manager will get the larger portion of the blame coz he kept on selecting said players, and he shouldn't because if his crosses are so bad, he should have seen it in training, or on the pitch
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What a down season. Some more full of bad lucks, our main hero RVP and Roon injured for so long, including our new buy Fellaini out for surgery cry.gif
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U know last nite match is the exact carbon copy of man Utd - arsenal, except we are arsenal.
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Guys chill.. Losing now feels normal already..

We lost against a unbeaten at home mourinho's chelsea.

Lets see what moyes and carrick fanboy have to say bout their performance yesterday. brows.gif
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I always has high expectation on Man Utd. Yes, the squad got problem. Yes, there is new manager. BUT... this is Man Utd. We cannot drop our standard just because of this situation. And I am getting tired with DM comment. Can he say something new or be creative a bit?!!
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another loss, weird decision to play Young and Welbeck not Kagawa and Hernandez. defensively very poor and lack of speed in the middle of the park. i wonder what goes into DM mind right now, with a new signings in January seems unlikely.
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QUOTE(zaxxshoxx @ Jan 20 2014, 09:48 AM)
another loss, weird decision to play Young and Welbeck not Kagawa and Hernandez. defensively very poor and lack of speed in the middle of the park. i wonder what goes into DM mind right now, with a new signings in January seems unlikely.
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It seems like nobody would want to work under David Moyes and the players seems cant work well under him.

Im sorry, but DM only good with mid table team, or he's very good in converting a top team to mid table team with the way he manages the team, very mid table-like team United are nowadays.

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why i got the feeling whenever fergie is there to watch, team either lose or draw lol..
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at one glance, he looks like falcao.  laugh.gif
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so apparently we are selling anderson and keeping cleverley.. we are so dumb =)
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Its the same hair style just the color and yes i like older one
His hair color now is weird..looks like old people
So is it his natural hair or he color it
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I thought we played well for 1st 10mins. after that, poor defending, slow movement, useless cross, wrong passes.... keep repeating..
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Chill. No need to call names la abang. Jangan red tinted sangat. Xbagus cakap xbagus.
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QUOTE(tommyfai @ Jan 20 2014, 09:58 AM)
why i got the feeling whenever fergie is there to watch, team either lose or draw lol..
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Even so, it is not a reason they failed to produce result.

I have a feeling Rooney - Mata swap could happen soon... doh.gif

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QUOTE(maxizanc @ Jan 20 2014, 09:57 AM)
It seems like nobody would want to work under David Moyes and the players seems cant work well under him.

Im sorry, but DM only good with mid table team, or he's very good in converting a top team to mid table team with the way he manages the team, very mid table-like team United are nowadays.
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Fergie told us (fan) : Stand by the new manager, i wonder how long the board will have the patient if this stay on.
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DEI! Last season RVP won the league with us lah dry.gif
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What he meant is his last/final season with Arsenal, not last season he was with Arsenal. Comprende?
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sedih.. but its expected we going to lose point at bridge

we did look better side until the 1st goal which is unfortunate ones and one very poor marking get us down just before halftime.
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It was mostly the players fault for this game. Poor defending and no one to finish at the other end. 4th place is the top priority.
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Before chelsea 1s goal we got 2 good chances to score but young and welbeck rclxub.gif bt not surprised really... Both dont really hv the quality
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too many average players, really need fresh legs.
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league cup also get to qualify for europe iinm
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_League_Cup
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FA_Cup

both cups winners also qualify for europa..just that most of the time, it's won by team that already been in champs league/europa
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What he meant is his last/final season with Arsenal, not last season he was with Arsenal. Comprende?
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it's a no brainer hernandez always perform againts chelsea. why he start with young is beyond me.
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Lucky I already prepare my hiding place, this season is United getting arsewhipin from ABUs, its pain man icon_question.gif
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Lucky I already prepare my hiding place, this season is United getting arsewhipin from ABUs, its pain man  icon_question.gif
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Damn sakit hati man.. the midfield didn't get steamrolled, but our defending in our penalty box was horrendous.

As for attack, so many times we worked the ball into the opp penalty box or just outside it.. then closed down.

The defending..ugh.. really really bad. Vidic had a poor game, considering his experience and the captains armband, he could have done a better job organizing our back-line.
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Don't be fooled by the possession stats, if u watched the game, we were not creating anythg. Crosses were comical. Lol
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After all it's Moyes to blame. Blaming players because not performing well? It's the manager that chose the players. Young over Kagawa? Jones over Fletcher?
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Don't be fooled by the possession stats, if u watched the game, we were not creating anythg. Crosses were comical. Lol
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QUOTE(onepack @ Jan 20 2014, 01:33 PM)
to say united arent creating anything is a bit too much.. we do hv our share of chances. chelsea arent creating much either. perhap coz both side tend to foul each other constantly.. quality of players wht makes the different for me
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QUOTE(zaxxshoxx @ Jan 20 2014, 12:08 PM)
will always get that regardless winning or loosing. just relax biggrin.gif
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Why are your blaming moyes??? Moyes was just a manager of a small club Everton given a chance to Manages 1 of the biggest clubs in the world, who would reject that opportunity?? If your need to blame someone blame the 2 puppets master Sir Alex or Sir Bobby. Mourinho was available & quite clearly wanted the job but wasn't given it. If he was chosen ManU might not win the epl in his first season but he would definitely qualify for the CL.
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Why are your blaming moyes??? Moyes was just a manager of a small club Everton given a chance to Manages 1 of the biggest clubs in the world, who would reject that opportunity?? If your need to blame someone blame the 2 puppets master Sir Alex or Sir Bobby. Mourinho was available & quite clearly wanted the job but wasn't given it. If he was chosen ManU might not win the epl in his first season but he would definitely qualify for the CL.
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with things going like this, I think the best chance for us getting Euro football next season is... (sadly) mati mati we need to kill Sunderland to get into final
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There were in my opinion a few things I was not impressed with.

1. Using Jones and Young after a long absence for each. Sorry no game experience before a match especially after a long layoff is a no-no.

2. Young in general. He was ineffective besides the one shot in the opening minutes. Everytime he touched the ball I only assumed that he'll trip over his own feet and fall flat on his face. Anyone surprised the 2 games he started United got blown away (Manchester City and Chelsea).

3. Evra looked ineffectual versus Willian or Oscar or Eto. (interchange was somewhat magnificence to watch).

4. Kagawa played his best football last week and didn't even get on the field yesterday.

5. Hernandez and his glorious goal scoring record only had less than 1 half to make an impact. He looked lively and nice on the ball. Side Note: That goal was Hernandez to a T.

6. Slow midfield play. Carrick got overrun far too often and Jones only played defense.

7. #SellYoung

Why should he experiment in an important match like this? I didn't understand his selection and plan, the team which won against Swansea could have given stiff fight to Chelsea, I think he does not want few players to prove themselves as we have seen kagawa improving and performed a match winning performance against Swansea, he still dint give him a chance against Chelsea this shows his ego and what harm he can do to players if he does not rate them... He is an ignorant donkey who is killing players careers like kagawa and zaha, he simply does not want these both players to become successful like what avb did for adebayor, now he should be sacked as soon as possible and glazers should take some serious action I can't c manchester united going down like Milan and Liverpool... Please sack him he is not fit to manage a champion team like this... MOYESOUT!
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David Moyes is not only losing games, but also losing the players, losing the fans' supports, and soon will be losing the board's backing. And the worst thing is, I don't see him doing anything to change that! dAFUQ? doh.gif
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If mourinho in our dugout, u think the score will be 1-3 to us?

Time to reflect.
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it's a no brainer hernandez always perform againts chelsea. why he start with young is beyond me.
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QUOTE(stupid_cupid23 @ Jan 19 2014, 08:15 PM)
There were in my opinion a few things I was not impressed with.

1. Using Jones and Young after a long absence for each. Sorry no game experience before a match especially after a long layoff is a no-no.

2. Young in general. He was ineffective besides the one shot in the opening minutes. Everytime he touched the ball I only assumed that he'll trip over his own feet and fall flat on his face. Anyone surprised the 2 games he started United got blown away (Manchester City and Chelsea).

3. Evra looked ineffectual versus Willian or Oscar or Eto. (interchange was somewhat magnificence to watch).

4. Kagawa played his best football last week and didn't even get on the field yesterday.

5. Hernandez and his glorious goal scoring record only had less than 1 half to make an impact. He looked lively and nice on the ball. Side Note: That goal was Hernandez to a T.

6. Slow midfield play. Carrick got overrun far too often and Jones only played defense.

7. #SellYoung

Why should he experiment in an important match like this? I didn't understand his selection and plan, the team which won against Swansea could have given stiff fight to Chelsea, I think he does not want few players to prove themselves as we have seen kagawa improving and performed a match winning performance against Swansea, he still dint give him a chance against Chelsea this shows his ego and what harm he can do to players if he does not rate them... He is an ignorant donkey who is killing players careers like kagawa and zaha, he simply does not want these both players to become successful like what avb did for adebayor, now he should be sacked as soon as possible and glazers should take some serious action I can't c manchester united going down like Milan and Liverpool... Please sack him he is not fit to manage a champion team like this... MOYESOUT!
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DM has been tinkering too much. Fletcher-Kagawa then flip to Jones-Carrick the next game. Wtf half season gone still not sure which one is the best team ??? rclxub.gif
And this donkey prefer start with Young rather to give a single chance to Zaha to prove himself??
If you don't want him, for football sake please release/loan the young man out mad.gif

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getting into the final for the League Cup isn't enough, we will need to WIN it to guarantee a Europa League spot next season, but I don't really see how we can beat City in the final even if we overcome Sunderland this Wednesday
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getting into the final for the League Cup isn't enough, we will need to WIN it to guarantee a Europa League spot next season, but I don't really see how we can beat City in the final even if we overcome Sunderland this Wednesday
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QUOTE(dlct87 @ Jan 20 2014, 05:15 PM)
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The biggest failure for moyes will be failing to bring in a CM and left back this month. 11 days to go. Please...I know its hard to lure players at this time(january) and world cup is coming. But he and the one who handles the transfer deals MUST DO IT no matter what(Spend the all what u need, whatever it takes). If not we will seriously suffer for the rest of the season and moyes will put his job on the line.

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heard RVP, roo and mr Afro is coming back very soon! a good boost but still, CM and LB we need. I'm really scared vida will leave sad.gif and Roo too.

After the chelsea loss, not much news on transfer dy. Except moyes saying we dont need to rush to sign =/
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man utd really miss rvp and rooney... man utd squad rite now is baru nak naik squad.. SAF did a good joob last season because RVP and rooney not injured and man city suddenly down

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do you guys support Moyes?
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support, as long as he's our manager . I don't have any favouritism towards him but at times like this , its better to stick together and hope for the best.
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QUOTE(onelove89 @ Jan 20 2014, 05:59 PM)
heard RVP, roo and mr Afro is coming back very soon! a good boost but still, CM and LB we need. I'm really scared vida will leave sad.gif and Roo too.

After the chelsea loss, not much news on transfer dy. Except moyes saying we dont need to rush to sign =/
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The loss of Rooney will be huge as he has been our important squad member for many years but we will be ok since it's a cycle players will come go and i have no doubt we will find another gem to replace him.
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I also support him. I'd rather him take 5 years to win a trophy than keep changing managers.
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Last season I see a fellani keep getting forwar and he did score a lot. If moyes deploy him as dm will be be settle down?
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As long as David Moyes is a United manager, he will have my backings. BELIEVE.
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There are a lot of factors to be considered from the day Sir Alex announced retirement for our disastrous campaign.Last season and this season are freak results for United.

Moyes is easy target and rightly so because he took the responsibility to manage one of the biggest club in the world.He need to make something happen,everything seems against us from summer until now.Moyes needs to adapt fast, he is lucky he got the backing from sir alex and our tradition to stick until we find better manager (sexton, doc)

Last night is very unfortunate result, we did try to take the game to chelsea and our usually achilles heel (midfield) is surprisingly doing better than expected.However, eto'o used his experience to beat jones for first goal (bear in mind jones and young slotted in after injuries) and the poor defending (set pieces and whatnot) lead to hattrick

Moyes need to sort this mess rather than cave in every time we're in losing position.I still stick with moyes but if he still can't motivate our players to win the game, it's time to find better option.

The semi final coc is make it or break it for Moyes.sure, it just a coc and sunderland, but if the players still not up to it; moyes still the scapegoat everyone love to target and if he get an axe the next day, I wouldn't shed a tear

Embrace the pressure and disappointment,ready for new challenge. Ideally I believe just like sir alex think the continuation of his work will go smoothly but reality is not regardless moyes or not.

you have many players used to sir alex more than 5 seasons, a shock is expected and poor summer conduct bring this results while our rivals improving massively. If moyes lose the dressing room, he will be sacked immediately but there is no sign of it other than underperformer

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like i said, i don't really mind the results, what i mind is the way we played on the field...we found something that might be very useful for progression last weekend and then didnt even bother to try it out yesterday, that's what i am having issue with at the moment (same as the Leverkusen game, where we played brilliantly, only to revert back to the non stop crossing dross the next)
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Is Kagawa really that bad? Is there a manager beside Klopp that know how to utilize Kagawa?

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kagawa is 1st 11 i think
so it so weird why he not playing last night
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QUOTE(hocksoo @ Jan 20 2014, 09:43 PM)
I agree we should stick wi our manager... but pls tell DM to stick with player that play good. Play Kagawa at Swansea, then dump him at Chelsea...  doh.gif

Is Kagawa really that bad? Is there a manager beside Klopp that know how to utilize Kagawa?
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yea its best to stick with a manager rather than hire and fire.

I dont think Kagawa is that bad, hes actually pretty good with Januzaj and Welbeck.

Rooney confirmed leaving MU?
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I think we will know at summer that Rooney is staying or leave.

I have a feeling that Moyes will buy youngster and develop when new season come.
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QUOTE(GirlyTeenGirl @ Jan 20 2014, 07:07 PM)
do you guys support Moyes?
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same as someone comment... will support as long as he is United manager. not to say support.. should say won't chant moyesout.

but if he got sacked and got replaced with klopp, I am happy with it smile.gif performance certainly not up to standard at the moment and it's already more than half a season.. as soccernet title suggest, patience running thin.
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Jan 20 2014, 10:44 PM)
same as someone comment... will support as long as he is United manager. not to say support.. should say won't chant moyesout.

but if he got sacked and got replaced with klopp, I am happy with it smile.gif performance certainly not up to standard at the moment and it's already more than half a season.. as soccernet title suggest, patience running thin.
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yea but SAF took around 3 years to finally win silverware (i think).
yes he did it from scratch so it took that long, maybe Moyes needs to focus next season?
I won't mind if he used the remainder of this season testing new formations and plays, or play some new players.
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There are a lot of factors to be considered from the day Sir Alex  announced retirement for our disastrous campaign.Last season and this season are freak results for United.

Moyes is easy target and rightly so because he took the responsibility to manage one of the biggest club in the world.He need to make something happen,everything seems against us from summer until now.Moyes needs to adapt fast, he is lucky he got the backing from sir alex and our tradition to stick until we find better manager  (sexton, doc)

Last night is very unfortunate result, we did try to take the game to chelsea and our usually achilles heel (midfield) is surprisingly doing better than expected.However, eto'o used his experience to beat jones for first goal (bear in mind jones and young slotted in after injuries) and the poor defending (set pieces and whatnot) lead to hattrick

Moyes need to sort this mess rather than cave in every time we're in losing position.I still stick with moyes but if he still can't motivate our players to win the game, it's time to find better option.

The semi final coc is make it or break it for Moyes.sure, it just a coc and sunderland, but if the players still not up to it; moyes still the scapegoat everyone love to target and if he get an axe the next day, I wouldn't shed a tear

Embrace the pressure and disappointment,ready for new challenge. Ideally I believe just like sir alex think the continuation of his work will go smoothly but reality is not regardless moyes or not.

you have many players used to sir alex more than 5 seasons, a shock is expected and poor summer conduct bring this results while our rivals improving massively. If moyes lose the dressing room, he will be sacked immediately but there is no sign of it other than underperformer

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You know what? Nobody expect him to win anything. But nobody expect things to get this bad either. He inherited a good squad, not world class but good enough. Player not doing well? Responsibilities is always on the manager, not the players. People talk about he is new, we are in transition etc. I want to talk about Roberto Martinez and Tim Sherwood. Why can these 2 manager turn things around with a same set of players but Moyes can't? Is their players better than ours.I don't think so. Moyes have absolutely no excuse except start showing results on the field.

Like you, I wouldn't shed a tears if he is sacked but I would like him to stay until the season ends.
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QUOTE(GirlyTeenGirl @ Jan 20 2014, 10:47 PM)
yea but SAF took around 3 years to finally win silverware (i think).
yes he did it from scratch so it took that long, maybe Moyes needs to focus next season?
I won't mind if he used the remainder of this season testing new formations and plays, or play some new players.
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we had been playing crossing whole damn season so far, what makes you think he will change?
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EDIT : this post should be for andrew  doh.gif
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QUOTE(dlct87 @ Jan 20 2014, 11:24 PM)
we had been playing crossing whole damn season so far, what makes you think he will change?
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United's tradition has always been superb wing play and fast counter attacks... For this season, when compared to the previous seasons, the crossing has been off the mark.. United have been making more crosses in games this season, but it's just not finding the right players...
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QUOTE(GirlyTeenGirl @ Jan 20 2014, 10:47 PM)
yea but SAF took around 3 years to finally win silverware (i think).
yes he did it from scratch so it took that long, maybe Moyes needs to focus next season?
I won't mind if he used the remainder of this season testing new formations and plays, or play some new players.
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We are no longer in the old days of Fergie. Unlike Fergie, he can scout good young player and bring them in. Now, good young players are costly, and facing lot of competition to sign, thus expensive... not to mention young player also choose club. Will they want to come to Man Utd given the current situation??

You can no longer rebuild if your reputation is damage. Unless you got super eye which can spot great potential in unknown player.... otherwise, good young famous (wonderkid) player will not come...
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Utd started well against Chelsea, for a change, Moyes needs to take his fair share of the blame. This Utd team is finished...its beyond a crisis; there is no leadership and nobody there to inspire the team. Moyes cant get top players not because they arent there but because they dont want to play for him....Utd need to take some really big decisions now; either Moyes has to break the bank in the remaining 10 days to save the season or beyond or (as much as it pains me to say this)

Moyes will have to be sacked...wasnt ecstatic when he was unveiled as SAF's replacement in the first place but would like to have given him more time but for
(i) his ridiculous summer transfer dealings (capped off by overpaying for Fellaini);
(ii) his (mis)handling of Zaha (and to some extent, Kagawa);
(iii) his inability to recognize and address the frailities in midfield and defense that are (and have been) so obvious; (iv) his insistence that he cannot buy top players in January.

Have said it for some time and Chelsea result simply affirms it; United are in a CRISIS!!. Its up to the owners/management to redress it in the next 10 days otherwise, the top players arent coming next summer unless Utd either offer them CL football (which is now unlikely) or break the bank in transfer fees or attract them with higher wage packages; which brings us back to why United arent willing to do that now.

Other than Koke' and maybe D.Costa (and any player who doesnt otherwise want to join United for other reasons), i dont buy the "this is the wrong time to get value" argument. United are slipping on a daily basis ie. in the EPL Table, the transfer market and now, even losing financial value. If Utd dont act now, the summer will be too late! Moyes is as much to blame as the owners, SAF and the players themselves.

SAF picked the worst (not the best) time to leave...Moyes was always a conservative choice and not necessarily the best...David Gill departure coinciding with SAF was another disaster..Ed Woodward's insistence in locking in more global sponsors than coming up with a credible and workable transfer strategy with Moyes showed that the transition was poorly handled...Moyes' dismissal of SAF's entire staff, while understandable in the context of him trying to make a statement and wanting his own people, also belied a certain insecurity...

United have been unable to attract the best players for some time now...they have managed to eke out results in the EPL while completely falling behind in Europe (as used to happen in the 1990s before the 1999 win) ...there was no ambition or sense in the transfer market...even Wenger realized with the Ozil purchase that the system has changed...likes of Man City, PSG, Monaco etc have proved that the top players want the most money and when these teams attract enough top players, they also start winning ala Man City and PSG. Real M and Barca have continued to spend big and even an ultra-conservative club such as Bayern, has spent heavily in the last few seasons (Neuer, J.Martinez, Thiago and Gotze to name a few).

Its even more depressing when Utd fans have to acknowledge that Utd were actually interested in at least the first three i.e. Neuer preferred Bayern, Utd should have broken the bank for Martinez and Thiago A preferred Pep to Moyes (a no brainer really!!)....SAF struggled to get likes of Moura and Hazard and RvP was also more default, then design. Take RvP out of the equation last season and Utd finish 3rd or 4th at best. SAF mishandled Rooney and Kagawa and also lost a player who would have resolved United's attacking mid conundrum in Pogba!! SAF also didnt bother to address the midfield and defensive frailties.

Moyes conveniently overlooked them despite his Everton team having played a key role in Utd losing a 8 pts lead with 4 games to go two seasons ago. Moyes claim that he had little time over the summer is a lot of hogwash. Pellegrini came from the continent and City bought 4 top players in Negredo, Navas, Fernandino and the injured Jovetic, not to mention DeMichelis thereafter. Moyes was in the EPL for over a decade and he didnt know Utd's weaknesses? Either Moyes & co are delusional or Utd's owners somehow feel that sliding down the table and losing financial value will ultimately result in betterment for the Club and enable it to attract top talent (despite no CL offerings) next season.

Sack Moyes or break the bank!
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QUOTE(stupid_cupid23 @ Jan 21 2014, 01:16 AM)
Utd started well against Chelsea, for a change, Moyes needs to take his fair share of the blame. This Utd team is finished...its beyond a crisis; there is no leadership and nobody there to inspire the team. Moyes cant get top players not because they arent there but because they dont want to play for him....Utd need to take some really big decisions now; either Moyes has to break the bank in the remaining 10 days to save the season or beyond or (as much as it pains me to say this)

Moyes will have to be sacked...wasnt ecstatic when he was unveiled as SAF's replacement in the first place but would like to have given him more time but for
(i) his ridiculous summer transfer dealings (capped off by overpaying for Fellaini);
(ii) his (mis)handling of Zaha (and to some extent, Kagawa);
(iii) his inability to recognize and address the frailities in midfield and defense that are (and have been) so obvious; (iv) his insistence that he cannot buy top players in January.

Have said it for some time and Chelsea result simply affirms it; United are in a CRISIS!!. Its up to the owners/management to redress it in the next 10 days otherwise, the top players arent coming next summer unless Utd either offer them CL football (which is now unlikely) or break the bank in transfer fees or attract them with higher wage packages; which brings us back to why United arent willing to do that now.

Other than Koke' and maybe D.Costa (and any player who doesnt otherwise want to join United for other reasons), i dont buy the "this is the wrong time to get value" argument. United are slipping on a daily basis ie. in the EPL Table, the transfer market and now, even losing financial value. If Utd dont act now, the summer will be too late! Moyes is as much to blame as the owners, SAF and the players themselves.

SAF picked the worst (not the best) time to leave...Moyes was always a conservative choice and not necessarily the best...David Gill departure coinciding with SAF was another disaster..Ed Woodward's insistence in locking in more global sponsors than coming up with a credible and workable transfer strategy with Moyes showed that the transition was poorly handled...Moyes' dismissal of SAF's entire staff, while understandable in the context of him trying to make a statement and wanting his own people, also belied a certain insecurity...

United have been unable to attract the best players for some time now...they have managed to eke out results in the EPL while completely falling behind in Europe (as used to happen in the 1990s before the 1999 win) ...there was no ambition or sense in the transfer market...even Wenger realized with the Ozil purchase that the system has changed...likes of Man City, PSG, Monaco etc have proved that the top players want the most money and when these teams attract enough top players, they also start winning ala Man City and PSG. Real M and Barca have continued to spend big and even an ultra-conservative club such as Bayern, has spent heavily in the last few seasons (Neuer, J.Martinez, Thiago and Gotze to name a few).

Its even more depressing when Utd fans have to acknowledge that Utd were actually interested in at least the first three i.e. Neuer preferred Bayern, Utd should have broken the bank for Martinez and Thiago A preferred Pep to Moyes (a no brainer really!!)....SAF struggled to get likes of Moura and Hazard and RvP was also more default, then design. Take RvP out of the equation last season and Utd finish 3rd or 4th at best. SAF mishandled Rooney and Kagawa and also lost a player who would have resolved United's attacking mid conundrum in Pogba!! SAF also didnt bother to address the midfield and defensive frailties.

Moyes conveniently overlooked them despite his Everton team having played a key role in Utd losing a 8 pts lead with 4 games to go two seasons ago. Moyes claim that he had little time over the summer is a lot of hogwash. Pellegrini came from the continent and City bought 4 top players in Negredo, Navas, Fernandino and the injured Jovetic, not to mention DeMichelis thereafter. Moyes was in the EPL for over a decade and he didnt know Utd's weaknesses? Either Moyes & co are delusional or Utd's owners somehow feel that sliding down the table and losing financial value will ultimately result in betterment for the Club and enable it to attract top talent (despite no CL offerings) next season.

Sack Moyes or break the bank!
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Finally a post that shed some reality check and sense.
However my friend you will be soon be in land of Bora Bora as those in power here cannot accept such reality check comments
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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Jan 20 2014, 10:49 PM)
You know what? Nobody expect him to win anything. But nobody expect things to get this bad either. He inherited a good squad, not world class but good enough. Player not doing well? Responsibilities is always on the manager, not the players. People talk about he is new, we are in transition etc. I want to talk about Roberto Martinez and Tim Sherwood. Why can these 2 manager turn things around with a same set of players but Moyes can't? Is their players better than ours.I don't think so. Moyes have absolutely no excuse except start showing results on the field.

Like you, I wouldn't shed a tears if he is sacked but I would like him to stay until the season ends.
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Like I said before this, shits happen.avb tend to overspend and snubbed player like adebayor who found new spirit under Sherwood

Basically, everton improve massively due two loanee and upcoming barkley (who moyes protected unlike rodwell and rooney get snapped) and martinez philosophy working well with everton.Even when he managed swans and wigan, you know martinez style although lack of players to do it consistently (and good players easily bought over)

Responsibility is on all shoulder.we lacked leader on the pitch last night and the factor two quality players missing out is huge factor (and shambolic defending) .

I'm backing him up as long as possible(although the patience is wearing thin).but if we want to do damage control,its better this month or give the man to start over from zero. (it took longer than 2 summer)

don't worry too much anyway because United has survived worse than this; missing out CL is painful and disgrace for United stature but I believe United can afford to somehow.
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QUOTE(legendofhafiz @ Jan 21 2014, 05:16 AM)
Like I said before this, shits happen.avb tend to overspend and snubbed player like adebayor who found new spirit under Sherwood

Basically, everton improve massively due two loanee and upcoming barkley (who moyes protected unlike rodwell and rooney get snapped) and martinez philosophy working well with everton.Even when he managed swans and wigan, you know martinez style although lack of players to do it consistently (and good players easily bought over)

Responsibility is on all shoulder.we lacked leader on the pitch last night and the factor two quality players missing out is huge factor (and shambolic defending) .

I'm backing him up as long as possible(although the patience is wearing thin).but if we want to do damage control,its better this month or give the man to start over from zero. (it took longer than 2 summer)

don't worry too much anyway because United has survived worse than this; missing out CL is painful and disgrace for United stature but I believe United can afford to somehow.
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but the owners cant afford to lose ucl placing.they will lose money. sweat.gif
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seenms like we are at 8th place longer than any other teams since new year we "imrpoved" a bit by sitting at 7th place but nothing really to cheer with cuz 7th place for a team who won 20 league titles and now fighting 5 - 10th places like a mid-table team.

Moyes or not, we are facing a situation where do or die. We all know United are in huge debts and without CL qualification or worst Europa League, we lost a lot in term of TV rights and sponsorship. This will make thing from bad to worst.

Without this income and without this kind of european leagues, players around the world would have to re-consider to join us unless they willing to be develop and fight for the club.

It is not give Moyes time or what but with current situation (financial point of view), we are not afford to lost out Euro place.




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well to be honest, this "backing the manager" tradition will automatically happens if the man shows capability and competency in his job, what's the point of blindly sticking to the tradition if the man is not competent enough?

to back Moyes coz this is not his team yet? which manager had his "own team" straight away when he stepped into the club for the first time? He had to earn his right to build his own image, his own team in the first place, that is, showing some results with the current team (plus he inherited a squad that had just won the PL title ffs, and even if it has flaws, 4th place SHOULD be easily achievable)
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QUOTE(Xnet @ Jan 21 2014, 03:42 AM)
Finally a post that shed some reality check and sense.
However my friend you will be soon be in land of Bora Bora as those in power here cannot accept such reality check comments
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Dont really care bout those blind moyes fanboi already. He is clearly incompetent with the job.

Maybe he secretly doing his job to ensure he achieve his life long ambition, Get everton to finish above united brows.gif
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sacking Moyes now will not do us any good. if Glazer intend to that, just do it on May. i believe more to evolution than revolution.

i hope us fans and more importantly players give full backing to him. be in COC final and CL quaterfinal is a must now.
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I been wonder, if it is ole gunnar solskjaer who is hire as manager, will it be better?
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QUOTE(green_algae @ Jan 21 2014, 07:51 AM)
but the owners cant afford to lose ucl placing.they will lose money. sweat.gif
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I think it in different way,losing cl is definitely hurt their dough but it forced them to spend rather than nonsense media saying about 150 or 200 mil warchest that doesn't exist
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Which part is there name calling? Wtfreallyukiddingmelmao?
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didn't you notice your post got nuked genius?
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Just saw us linked with Mata (I know no quote on this) but if we do sign him it will definitely lift the team. If we're not bringing in anyone might as well break the bank for him.
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Just so people have a little bit of perspective.

All teams work around a spine of key players and build a set of squad players around them. Unless you are Man City of course, then normal rules don't apply.

The spine of last season's team was Rooney, RvP, Carrick, Vidic, Ferdinand (maybe Rafael as well) and De Gea. Or somewhere thereabouts.

How many of those players have been injured this season?
How many of those players have been injured for more than 1 month?
How many of those players have been injured at the same time for more than 1 month?

Almost all of them except De Gea at various points throughout this season.

We've been playing with only our squad players for long periods this season. Just our centerback pairings itself show we have multiple different pairings this season already. Vidic has been injured for long periods and is now suspended for 3 matches. Ferdinand has been injured and even when fit, is probably too slow at this level. (that Gary Neville moment. sad.gif )

Defensive troubles have been an issue with this squad even during SAF's time. This defense eventually will need an overhaul. The good defenders are either too old (Evra, Ferdinand), getting there (Vidic) or getting injured (Rafael). The young defenders are not ready yet. (Smalling, Jones (Jones has been steadily improving so I have high hopes for him to make the grade in within the next 1 or 2 years. Some may even argue he is already ready.), etc)

Still, last season, we got away with it, because we could keep scoring goals. Now we can't. Is it any wonder that Rooney and RvP have been missing while we have goal scoring troubles?

The team has been slowly getting better in their play. As a matter of fact, they played well against Chelsea but couldn't score any goals and ended up being undone by bad luck. Of course, this team's development is far from over. We need Rooney and RvP back and firing. We need another midfielder to complement and back up Carrick. We need a left back to replace Evra, and we need our centerbacks and right back to stop getting injured or suspended.

I still remember under SAF, there was a time when we had up to 12 players injured. The team wasn't doing well and we were being written off. Then Carrick came back and the team went 11 games unbeaten and back in the title race. Or something like that.

This season has been a perfect storm of bad luck and disaster after disaster. The tragedy of a summer transfer. The long time it took for Moyes and the team to adapt to each other. The injury troubles and suspensions. The bad luck with goals and decisions against United.

I don't expect anything from the transfer market in Jan. With most players cup tied, most clubs unwilling to sell because they can't find replacements themselves and with United being so unstable right now making people hesitant to join for fear of lack of Champion's League football next season, we are unlikely to sign anyone. So to hope for transfers to cure all our ills is unrealistic.

The defence is not something that can be solved overnight and will probably continue to leak goals.

What we can realistically hope for, and this is probably our only hope, is for injured players like Rooney and RvP to come back and help resolve our goal scoring problems, do what we did last season and hopefully maybe string together some wins so that we can close the gap on 4th place. After that, whatever will be, will be.

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2 side of a coin...for those who thinks moyes is not the chosen one...he is one personality coming in to succeed SAF...he bring his trusted staff to make things sort out sooner...then we hav a squad of 25 personality to blend in together...to get them respond to the manager...for me vice versa...they shud take a blame as a team...as well as we are...if we win the title...all of us win n sing together no...for 25 personality to take 1 man philosophy on board n deliver on the field as a team...the player bare more responsibility for me...for those who dont hav time for some stick after a decades n more of success...dont waste ur time n energy to bear the storm...for those who think we r going doom...i dont know what u hav learn in supporting MAN UTD...no matter how doom it is or it seem...we will always rise...10 times we fall...20 times we gonna rise...i dunno about u guys...its MAN UTD in me tells me that...

the conundrum of our play...has been going for years...last 2-3 season i swear just like u guys did...the performance is shit mostly...every time we get the result...SAF magic which i dont understand...the player respond to him...hence the comeback king we sing...i even got my Warning Point from mods questioning my behaviour...last time i used to curse...main mcm taik...dah kena sebijik baru nak main betol2...i even called SAF org tua gile nyanyok...swear his lineup...but i get it as time pass me by...they r the one we put our trust to...let them do their part...i do my part...which is berdiritegang behind moyes which for the club to move forward after SAF era...SAF is there if something went wrong...he build our personality...he shud know better than any of us incase anything gone wrong...there is a lot of wise man looking after the club as director...sir bobby,saf,robbo,class of 92...i trust moyes will get the team put a consistent performance...an attacking eye catching game...fun attacking exciting show later on when the player get it what he demand n respond to him...just a matter of time which most of us dun hav but he hav...

on financial things...UCL pot...tv right...if glazer kenot sustain it...sure they gonna sell it...bersepah arab tycoon wanna take over...then we can enjoice n be like sugardaddy club...even if our fanbase derma sorg suploh hengget all over the world...we can buy the club n run it like it shud be...btw...saya bodo akaun...highlighten me...lol

yang berdiritegang,
budakhijau lol
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didn't you notice your post got nuked genius?
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QUOTE(legendofhafiz @ Jan 20 2014, 10:20 PM)
There are a lot of factors to be considered from the day Sir Alex  announced retirement for our disastrous campaign.Last season and this season are freak results for United.

Moyes is easy target and rightly so because he took the responsibility to manage one of the biggest club in the world.He need to make something happen,everything seems against us from summer until now.Moyes needs to adapt fast, he is lucky he got the backing from sir alex and our tradition to stick until we find better manager  (sexton, doc)

Last night is very unfortunate result, we did try to take the game to chelsea and our usually achilles heel (midfield) is surprisingly doing better than expected.However, eto'o used his experience to beat jones for first goal (bear in mind jones and young slotted in after injuries) and the poor defending (set pieces and whatnot) lead to hattrick

Moyes need to sort this mess rather than cave in every time we're in losing position.I still stick with moyes but if he still can't motivate our players to win the game, it's time to find better option.

The semi final coc is make it or break it for Moyes.sure, it just a coc and sunderland, but if the players still not up to it; moyes still the scapegoat everyone love to target and if he get an axe the next day, I wouldn't shed a tear

Embrace the pressure and disappointment,ready for new challenge. Ideally I believe just like sir alex think the continuation of his work will go smoothly but reality is not regardless moyes or not.

you have many players used to sir alex more than 5 seasons, a shock is expected and poor summer conduct bring this results while our rivals improving massively. If moyes lose the dressing room, he will be sacked immediately but there is no sign of it other than underperformer

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QUOTE(legendofhafiz @ Jan 21 2014, 06:16 AM)
Like I said before this, shits happen.avb tend to overspend and snubbed player like adebayor who found new spirit under Sherwood

Basically, everton improve massively due two loanee and upcoming barkley (who moyes protected unlike rodwell and rooney get snapped) and martinez philosophy working well with everton.Even when he managed swans and wigan, you know martinez style although lack of players to do it consistently (and good players easily bought over)

Responsibility is on all shoulder.we lacked leader on the pitch last night and the factor two quality players missing out is huge factor (and shambolic defending) .

I'm backing him up as long as possible(although the patience is wearing thin).but if we want to do damage control,its better this month or give the man to start over from zero. (it took longer than 2 summer)

don't worry too much anyway because United has survived worse than this; missing out CL is painful and disgrace for United stature but I believe United can afford to somehow.
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Moyes out klopp in, because he is more competent, because I know it imma genius

of fk just realise only ~10 days left

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Moyes out klopp in, because he is more competent,  because I know it imma genius

of fk just realise only ~10 days left
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lol they say they might get Mata. dream on la tongue.gif haha. You dont wan sell Roo, Mou will say get the heck off Mata tongue.gif and they wont sell to local competitor too.

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Screwed indeed.

The best we can hope for are cup competitions.

Lets hope for a major transfer market this summer.
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lol..most of the fans today..so impatience lar..
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Hmm...seems the english press are united in their belief that a big bid for mata is going to happen O_o

do..not..understand why...mata ?_?
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Of course no one had expected Moyes to be even half-successful as SAF when he inherited the champions squad, but I bet none has predicted this bad when we are out of almost all competition now. He was supposed to strengthen (or at least, maintain) the squad for continuity in challenging all the available titles. Yet from what we saw so far, he himself became a liability for the team to move forward, with his defensive tactics and questionable starting line up. Theoretically he killed Zaha and Kagawa's career when they were about to blossom in United's jersey. He brought in an overpriced player whose old team is currently playing better without him. He looks clueless on the bench and sounds even repetitive in post-match interviews. He shows no sign whatsoever that he is the right man to lead this team going forward in post-SAF area.

I know the fans should stick together with the team and manager especially in a period like this, but if we all know he is not right man to lead the team for a better future, why waste our times and his time and the club's fortune? Even he was picked by SAF as the successor but doesn't mean it's the best choice for the job. Even SAF made mistakes too, didn't he? Lets just get on with it and start a new, before it's too late. sleep.gif
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QUOTE(Reon @ Jan 21 2014, 05:07 PM)
Of course no one had expected Moyes to be even half-successful as SAF when he inherited the champions squad, but I bet none has predicted this bad when we are out of almost all competition now. He was supposed to strengthen (or at least, maintain) the squad for continuity in challenging all the available titles. Yet from what we saw so far, he himself became a liability for the team to move forward, with his defensive tactics and questionable starting line up. Theoretically he killed Zaha and Kagawa's career when they were about to blossom in United's jersey. He brought in an overpriced player whose old team is currently playing better without him. He looks clueless on the bench and sounds even repetitive in post-match interviews. He shows no sign whatsoever that he is the right man to lead this team going forward in post-SAF area.

I know the fans should stick together with the team and manager especially in a period like this, but if we all know he is not right man to lead the team for a better future, why waste our times and his time and the club's fortune? Even he was picked by SAF as the successor but doesn't mean it's the best choice for the job. Even SAF made mistakes too, didn't he? Lets just get on with it and start a new, before it's too late.  sleep.gif
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Every time I see a fan posting about the manager "killing" someones career, my eyebrows go up. In this case:
1) Zaha is very young and his appearances have shown that game is not as polished as Januzaj, but he (still) already had an active pre-season with the first team and has played a few games. Apparently he will likely go on loan this month, as long as we have enough cover.
2) Kagawa came in under SAF. He played limited games, mostly in the LW. Moyes has basically continued this practice.

So did SAF kill Kagawa's career too? We undoubtedly paid a ridiculous sum for Fellaini (why on earth we really didn't just activate his release clause, only Woodward and Moyes will ever know). His possible contribution though is still open to see. He had a poor start partly due to injuries and being played out of the position he shone in, same as Kagawa. Funny how nobody is saying Moyes "killed Fellaini's career" the same way as Zaha/Kagawa?

As for starting with a new manager, who would be available?

Guardiola? Fat hopes of him leaving Bayern.
Mourinho? Fat hopes of him leaving Chelsea.
Klopp? He signed a contract extension with Dortmund recently, supposedly because he really wants to bring the club to the next level. Do you think he will leave just like that mid-season?

A lot of other managers (Capello, Hiddink) are attached to their jobs and are also in the late part of their career i.e. they are damn old and won't be able to offer us 10-20years.

And if anyone mentions Solskjaer, he has even less experience AND he has just joined Cardiff. Let the man gain more experience and hone his skills instead of throwing him into the deep at the OT hot-seat.



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QUOTE(sunblaze @ Jan 20 2014, 09:20 PM)
Every time I see a fan posting about the manager "killing" someones career, my eyebrows go up. In this case:
1) Zaha is very young and his appearances have shown that game is not as polished as Januzaj, but he (still) already had an active pre-season with the first team and has played a few games. Apparently he will likely go on loan this month, as long as we have enough cover.
2) Kagawa came in under SAF. He played limited games, mostly in the LW. Moyes has basically continued this practice.

So did SAF kill Kagawa's career too? We undoubtedly paid a ridiculous sum for Fellaini (why on earth we really didn't just activate his release clause, only Woodward and Moyes will ever know). His possible contribution though is still open to see. He had a poor start partly due to injuries and being played out of the position he shone in, same as Kagawa. Funny how nobody is saying Moyes "killed Fellaini's career" the same way as Zaha/Kagawa?

As for starting with a new manager, who would be available?

Guardiola? Fat hopes of him leaving Bayern.
Mourinho? Fat hopes of him leaving Chelsea.
Klopp? He signed a contract extension with Dortmund recently, supposedly because he really wants to bring the club to the next level. Do you think he will leave just like that mid-season?

A lot of other managers (Capello, Hiddink) are attached to their jobs and are also in the late part of their career i.e. they are damn old and won't be able to offer us 10-20years.

And if anyone mentions Solskjaer, he has even less experience AND he has just joined Cardiff. Let the man gain more experience and hone his skills instead of throwing him into the deep at the OT hot-seat.
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-DM played Giggs, Valencia, Januzaj, Nani and Kagawa on the wings. Still not enough cover huh? More like he has a personal agenda on that boy.
Played out of position? thats the problem. Why make players play in position they not familiar with? He could easily identified that when Kagawa played in the middle, our game improved significantly but DM choose to play him on the left, Januzaj in middle. Sounds crazy right ?

-We can promote Giggs to be manager or get Mike Phelan back.

-OGS managed our youth team and they win titles before he went back Norway and win titles again.
Honestly OGS had more experience in winning titles compare to DM.


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u just replaced the best manager in british football and u expect the club to do just as well under the new manager? isnt that an insult to saf himself...mcm siapa2 pon boleh buat kerja dia tu huhue laugh.gif

setuju bagi je guardiola hiddink klopp avb blanc di matteo replace moyes...if they can instantly do well then great but if cant then juz sack and hire new one because we manchester united are no different from any other clubs whistling.gif
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QUOTE(Amuro_Ray @ Jan 21 2014, 06:10 PM)
-DM played Giggs, Valencia, Januzaj, Nani and Kagawa on the wings. Still not enough cover huh? More like he has a personal agenda on that boy.
Played out of position? thats the problem. Why make players play in position they not familiar with? He could easily identified that when Kagawa played in the middle, our game improved significantly but DM choose to play him on the left, Januzaj in middle. Sounds crazy right ?

-We can promote Giggs to be manager or get Mike Phelan back.

-OGS managed our youth team and they win titles before he went back Norway and win titles again.
Honestly OGS had more experience in winning titles compare to DM.
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Personal agenda? A lot of assumptions there, if he had an agenda against him then wouldn't he just sell him or loan him out to a club in Belgium to get him out of sight? He gains nothing at all (and is hardly destroying Zaha's career) by keeping him in OT training with the first team squad.

As for playing guys out of position, I'm not a fan of that either but as I've said SAF did the same on more than one occasion with several players. Maybe DM is a slow learner, maybe he is just doing that since SAF has done it and he wanted to see for himself how it works. We don't know the reasoning, and only time will tell whether that changes.

Giggs to be manager? Mike Phelan back? Sherwood gettings the Spurs job inspired this line of thought? Giggs is nowhere near ready to be manager of the club. At one point Robson, Keane, Bruce, and Hughes were all mentioned as possible future candidates to be the manager, look at where they all are now in terms of their managerial careers. OGS would be a more experienced pick than Giggs, and he has had a promising start in the youth team and at Molde, but even that is really reaching to incredible lengths. Not 100% impossible, but super duper unlikely.

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As long DM still Man Utd manager, i will support him~
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QUOTE(SGSuser @ Jan 21 2014, 06:16 PM)
u just replaced the best manager in british football and u expect the club to do just as well under the new manager? isnt that an insult to saf himself...mcm siapa2 pon boleh buat kerja dia tu huhue laugh.gif

setuju bagi je guardiola hiddink klopp avb blanc di matteo replace moyes...if they can instantly do well then great but if cant then juz sack and hire new one because we manchester united are no different from any other clubs whistling.gif
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QUOTE(sunblaze @ Jan 21 2014, 05:20 PM)
Every time I see a fan posting about the manager "killing" someones career, my eyebrows go up. In this case:
1) Zaha is very young and his appearances have shown that game is not as polished as Januzaj, but he (still) already had an active pre-season with the first team and has played a few games. Apparently he will likely go on loan this month, as long as we have enough cover.
2) Kagawa came in under SAF. He played limited games, mostly in the LW. Moyes has basically continued this practice.

So did SAF kill Kagawa's career too? We undoubtedly paid a ridiculous sum for Fellaini (why on earth we really didn't just activate his release clause, only Woodward and Moyes will ever know). His possible contribution though is still open to see. He had a poor start partly due to injuries and being played out of the position he shone in, same as Kagawa. Funny how nobody is saying Moyes "killed Fellaini's career" the same way as Zaha/Kagawa?

As for starting with a new manager, who would be available?

Guardiola? Fat hopes of him leaving Bayern.
Mourinho? Fat hopes of him leaving Chelsea.
Klopp? He signed a contract extension with Dortmund recently, supposedly because he really wants to bring the club to the next level. Do you think he will leave just like that mid-season?

A lot of other managers (Capello, Hiddink) are attached to their jobs and are also in the late part of their career i.e. they are damn old and won't be able to offer us 10-20years.

And if anyone mentions Solskjaer, he has even less experience AND he has just joined Cardiff. Let the man gain more experience and hone his skills instead of throwing him into the deep at the OT hot-seat.
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1) Moyes did play him in the pre-season friendly matches and he looked OK on the pitch, showing his talents and stuffs. And when the league start he suddenly couldn't adapt to the pacing of the games and not "mentally-ready"? Zaha himself couldn't hide his excitement to join United with his leak-post on Twitter. And he was the reason that Crystal Palace made it into the top flight. To brand him as not mentally-ready is just beyond me. Physically I think Januzaj looks more vulnerable compared to Zaha.
2) When Kagawa was playing fine in the middle, Moyes either not feature him in the next game or shifted him to the side. It's as if he wasn't happy with Kagawa no matter what he does, even though we all can see he is playing well in the middle.

Moyes didn't kill Fellaini because he was the one who bought him over with overpaid price. He brought in the one position that we don't really need. Just this alone I can't see his eye for talent at all. He was known for picking up young talents but then when he was at United, he over-spent the money to buy an average player that we don't need. Honestly I rather he didn't buy the Afro then maybe the owners will back him even more by spending less. doh.gif

Haven't really think about replacement but OGS is a good choice. Maybe in the next few years when he garners more experience in the league? Well, I like to give Moyes some more time, provided he shows us some sign of progress of something, anything.

QUOTE(Amuro_Ray @ Jan 21 2014, 06:10 PM)
-DM played Giggs, Valencia, Januzaj, Nani and Kagawa on the wings. Still not enough cover huh? More like he has a personal agenda on that boy.
Played out of position? thats the problem. Why make players play in position they not familiar with? He could easily identified that when Kagawa played in the middle, our game improved significantly but DM choose to play him on the left, Januzaj in middle. Sounds crazy right ?

-We can promote Giggs to be manager or get Mike Phelan back.

-OGS managed our youth team and they win titles before he went back Norway and win titles again.
Honestly OGS had more experience in winning titles compare to DM.
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Exactly. When we won against Swansea with the formation featured Kagawa in the middle and Januzaj at the left, I just couldn't understand why he changed the whole formation against Chelsea. He even featured the unfit Jones and Young? When we were winning comfortable, he also never give chance to Zaha like SAF did to the youngsters in the past.

Yeah seriously I think OGS has more experience with the United team in and out. He played for us, he retired from United, and he even managed the reserve team. He won his nation league too! What did Moyes ever achieve in the past 10 years? Discovered Wayne Rooney?

QUOTE(SGSuser @ Jan 21 2014, 06:16 PM)
u just replaced the best manager in british football and u expect the club to do just as well under the new manager? isnt that an insult to saf himself...mcm siapa2 pon boleh buat kerja dia tu huhue laugh.gif

setuju bagi je guardiola hiddink klopp avb blanc di matteo replace moyes...if they can instantly do well then great but if cant then juz sack and hire new one because we manchester united are no different from any other clubs whistling.gif
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Hahaha, too bad it was SAF himself who picked Moyes out of all the candidates. I believe that time United did have the upper hand of picking anyone because they just won the premier league with a big gap and guaranteed CL spot. Now... Who? sweat.gif
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not really anyone...guardiola had signed with bayern...mourinho himself stated he was only going back to that one club in the pl...ancelotti? does he even want this job over madrid? klopp? good choice too i guess, but back like everyone was saying moyes was good too b4 changing their minds 7 games into the league whistling.gif

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cant see moyes sacked atleast till end of the season.. so let just stay united and support the team la..

we still got champion league, league cup and 4th place to fight for.. even if end of the season we missed CL spot what important for me seeing the team keep fighting for it till the last match
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Why chase Mata when we don't even fully utilise Kagawa? sweat.gif
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Janujaz. Which would mean Kagawa getting more game time too? unsure.gif
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QUOTE(Reon @ Jan 21 2014, 06:42 PM)
1) Moyes did play him in the pre-season friendly matches and he looked OK on the pitch, showing his talents and stuffs. And when the league start he suddenly couldn't adapt to the pacing of the games and not "mentally-ready"? Zaha himself couldn't hide his excitement to join United with his leak-post on Twitter. And he was the reason that Crystal Palace made it into the top flight. To brand him as not mentally-ready is just beyond me. Physically I think Januzaj looks more vulnerable compared to Zaha.
2) When Kagawa was playing fine in the middle, Moyes either not feature him in the next game or shifted him to the side. It's as if he wasn't happy with Kagawa no matter what he does, even though we all can see he is playing well in the middle.

Moyes didn't kill Fellaini because he was the one who bought him over with overpaid price. He brought in the one position that we don't really need. Just this alone I can't see his eye for talent at all. He was known for picking up young talents but then when he was at United, he over-spent the money to buy an average player that we don't need. Honestly I rather he didn't buy the Afro then maybe the owners will back him even more by spending less. doh.gif

Haven't really think about replacement but OGS is a good choice. Maybe in the next few years when he garners more experience in the league? Well, I like to give Moyes some more time, provided he shows us some sign of progress of something, anything.
Exactly. When we won against Swansea with the formation featured Kagawa in the middle and Januzaj at the left, I just couldn't understand why he changed the whole formation against Chelsea. He even featured the unfit Jones and Young? When we were winning comfortable, he also never give chance to Zaha like SAF did to the youngsters in the past.

Yeah seriously I think OGS has more experience with the United team in and out. He played for us, he retired from United, and he even managed the reserve team. He won his nation league too! What did Moyes ever achieve in the past 10 years? Discovered Wayne Rooney?
Hahaha, too bad it was SAF himself who picked Moyes out of all the candidates. I believe that time United did have the upper hand of picking anyone because they just won the premier league with a big gap and guaranteed CL spot. Now... Who? sweat.gif
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1) Pre-season is not the same as the league. He is promising, which is why he was signed and why he has had any appearances (compared to say.. Bebe, who hasn't been anywhere near the starting 11 since DM took over tongue.gif). It's not a matter of physical vulnerability, it's a matter of delivering performances. Has Zaha done anything during his 4 competitive appearances this season to indicate he is as ready to deliver the same performances as Januzaj and should be in the starting 11? Goals? Assists? Impressive moves?

2) Hey I'm very pro-Kagawa, and I hope he gets his time in the middle too and starts destroying teams like he did at Dortmund. That said, Swansea is not Chelsea. Different team, different level, and different form (Swans have been very poor in the league in the last 6 games). Give it time, it's not like Moyes is loaning Kagawa out or selling him. Moyes is (in)famous for being conservative and taking his time.

As for Fellaini, he was bought to play in CM/DM. We definitely do need someone in that position. The only issues with Fellaini were that:
- We overpaid like hell. That one though could also be pointed at Woodward as much as Moyes.
- His shining performances in the league were in more attacking positions, although he himself said he sees himself as a DM in the long term.
- His opening few months haven't matched expectations, although him playing in CM or DM and struggling with injuries, adapting, needing time...etc etc might have something to do with that. If his displays consistently suck a year or two from now after being given time and patience to prove himself then yea call him a dud then.

As for the youngsters comment, I am quite amazed you can say he hasn't given the younger players a chance.
In a short time, he has already played Evans, Jones and Smalling (in defense including CB) regularly, in fact at times ahead of Ferdinand even when he was available. Zaha has made 4 competitive appearances so far this season (2 of which were starts where he played for more than an hour). Januzaj has been played a LOT (maybe too much too soon, hope he doesn't burn out). Lingard has been recalled from loan and is being given exposure slowly (he was on the bench vs Swansea already, and supposedly is going to be mixing it up with the squad for the 2nd half of the season).

As for what he did in the past 10 years, he turned Everton from a struggling yo-yo club with no funds to a stable top-half club with no funds. Didn't spend big to do it, which kinda matters since we are not Real Madrid, Chelsea, Manchester City, or PSG in cash terms. Most high profile youngsters he unearthed would be Rooney, Coleman, and Barkley. But he also got old guys like Distin (who is 36!) to deliver solid performances in defense. Keeping old guys running, bringing the young guys into the setup... fits with what we need. Whatever else he did, it was enough for the LMA to vote him manager of the year 3x and for SAF to hand-pick him as his successor.

His start has been weak, but hopefully time and support will turn that around.
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i think mata will do us good. we need creativity in midfield. Kagawa can play there but moyes just dont like him there. Only he knows why.
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Mata is a good player, but if he comes in and takes a spot in the starting 11 (which he should for that kind of money)... Kagawa and Rooney are not going to be happy campers in the #10 role. Januzaj would basically be confirmed as a LW or RW. Spillover effect is RvP, Rooney, Welbeck, Hernandez will be aiming for the same lead striker position.

IF (and this is a very dubious if) he does sign, then I fully expect Rooney or Kagawa to leave in the summer.


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QUOTE(sunblaze @ Jan 21 2014, 07:27 PM)

As for what he did in the past 10 years, he turned Everton from a struggling yo-yo club with no funds to a stable top-half club with no funds. Didn't spend big to do it, which kinda matters since we are not Real Madrid, Chelsea, Manchester City, or PSG in cash terms. Most high profile youngsters he unearthed would be Rooney, Coleman, and Barkley. But he also got old guys like Distin (who is 36!) to deliver solid performances in defense. Keeping old guys running, bringing the young guys into the setup... fits with what we need. Whatever else he did, it was enough for the LMA to vote him manager of the year 3x and for SAF to hand-pick him as his successor.

His start has been weak, but hopefully time and support will turn that around.
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he turned Everton into a solid club yes, that's a good job in itself, but in the 11 years he cannot even fluke one League Cup when Portsmouth, Birmingham City, Swansea and even fukking Wigan had done it, every tip top manager these days had achieved much much more in smaller clubs in their first few years of management, that's what a club like United should be looking for

and as for his supposed strong points (keeping old guys running, robust physical training, defensive solidity), do we see that on the pitch? i guess the answer would be a big NO
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QUOTE(dlct87 @ Jan 21 2014, 07:53 PM)
he turned Everton into a solid club yes, that's a good job in itself, but in the 11 years he cannot even fluke one League Cup when Portsmouth, Birmingham City, Swansea and even fukking Wigan had done it, every tip top manager these days had achieved much much more in smaller clubs in their first few years of management, that's what a club like United should be looking for

and as for his supposed strong points (keeping old guys running, robust physical training, defensive solidity), do we see that on the pitch? i guess the answer would be a big NO
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Portsmouth spent so much money that they went to administration and almost had to be dissolved.

Wigan won a cup...and got relegated the same season. Birmingham got relegated too.

Swansea winning was a big achievement, and it came after many years of team building. Not half a season of games. Which proves the point that patience is needed.

Since every tip top manager these days has achieved more with smaller clubs, that would explain why SAF and the club picked Moyes? Hoping that given time and support he would be a tip-top manager.

He kept the old guys running when given more than... half a season at a club he could only start work at a month after the previous season ended.


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wow..impressive...hope he does the same to man utd too..make sure he keeps the team in the TOP 10. fans and owner will be very happy dy
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I think we shouldn't just throw the word 'glory hunter' around. Seriously, glory hunters should be all gone by now.

Concerning about the status of the team, and voicing some opinions of some signings isn't just saying 'we want some trophy!'. Bleh, heck I don't even think we can win top 4 to be honest with how the team is playing. But I still love this team to bits even though being shot down by all my arsenal/chelsea/liverpool/mancity fans.

We vent frustration doesn't mean we are impatient, but just silently supporting, yet still hoping silently that we will bring in some one SUITABLE. (like, I think just play kagawa than getting a Mata) A playsmaker, LB, we need. And all these not just for glory/trophy, but also to allow continuation of team/keeping players and giving confident to players/manager

No matter what, getting UCL spot or not, GGMU, supporting MU forever smile.gif stand proud to be a fan really.
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Portsmouth spent so much money that they went to administration and almost had to be dissolved.

Wigan won a cup...and got relegated the same season. Birmingham got relegated too.

Swansea winning was a big achievement, and it came after many years of team building. Not half a season of games. Which proves the point that patience is needed.

Since every tip top manager these days has achieved more with smaller clubs, that would explain why SAF and the club picked Moyes? Hoping that given time and support he would be a tip-top manager.

He kept the old guys running when given more than... half a season at a club he could only start work at a month after the previous season ended.
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well, you go with your patience, for me, 6 months is already enough to see a rough direction a club will be heading into with a new manager, what's our current direction with Moyes would you be able to tell me if I ask you? what are our attacking style? Is our defense line getting better? What is our best XI? and do we have a plan B if games do not go our way? if we see new managers at new clubs this season, we can already see they implement their style to their respective teams already, do we have one currently?

and by achieving more I meant silverware, not consistently mid table finishes, lets face it, clubs are there to win stuffs, not for charity
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QUOTE(dlct87 @ Jan 21 2014, 08:45 PM)
well, you go with your patience, for me, 6 months is already enough to see a rough direction a club will be heading into with a new manager, what's our current direction with Moyes would you be able to tell me if I ask you? what are our attacking style? Is our defense line getting better? What is our best XI? and do we have a plan B if games do not go our way? if we see new managers at new clubs this season, we can already see they implement their style to their respective teams already, do we have one currently?

and by achieving more I meant silverware, not consistently mid table finishes, lets face it, clubs are there to win stuffs, not for charity
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Definitely agree mid-table is not good enough for us. 6 months is enough for a new manager? Maybe in Real Madrid.

Around 2004 Arsenal went and did their invincibles run, and the 2 subsequent years when Mourinho joined Chelsea and they went on their spending and winning spree for 2 years before he got sacked into his third year. Also around the time when we went out of the CL in the group stages after 2 years of struggling in Europe. Those 3 years under SAF and it was so rough that Keane ragequit after flaming a bunch of the squad and carlos queiroz as not good enough to be at United. What would you say about that, since by then SAF had been around for ages and the squad went from going strong on all fronts to struggling on all fronts? True, he had also built a lot of credit with his amazing results in the years before. But 3 years of struggling to win anything after being so dominant. Same manager. And then in the 3 years after that the same manager turns it all around and we suddenly win the League, the CL, etc.

Not saying Moyes will do what SAF did and turn the club into all conquering giants. SAF is a legend for a reason. But it takes time for people to get results, unless you plan to throw a few hundred million pounds around every season.




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I dont think its the right time to sack moyes. His replacement wont do any better with 9 days left in transfer window.

But few things i dont understand with moyes :

- said we dont need Ozil because we have Rooney and Kagawa. But then when Rooney out injured, Kagawa still on the bench. And now we been linked with Mata.

- Dont want to loan out Zaha on loan because Nani and Young injured. And Zaha still dont get the chances to play.


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QUOTE(sunblaze @ Jan 20 2014, 10:23 PM)
Personal agenda? A lot of assumptions there, if he had an agenda against him then wouldn't he just sell him or loan him out to a club in Belgium to get him out of sight? He gains nothing at all (and is hardly destroying Zaha's career) by keeping him in OT training with the first team squad.

As for playing guys out of position, I'm not a fan of that either but as I've said SAF did the same on more than one occasion with several players. Maybe DM is a slow learner, maybe he is just doing that since SAF has done it and he wanted to see for himself how it works. We don't know the reasoning, and only time will tell whether that changes.

Giggs to be manager? Mike Phelan back? Sherwood gettings the Spurs job inspired this line of thought? Giggs is nowhere near ready to be manager of the club. At one point Robson, Keane, Bruce, and Hughes were all mentioned as possible future candidates to be the manager, look at where they all are now in terms of their managerial careers. OGS would be a more experienced pick than Giggs, and he has had a promising start in the youth team and at Molde, but even that is really reaching to incredible lengths. Not 100% impossible, but super duper unlikely.
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11years at Everton and still a slow learner? Probably true, look at where we are after 6 months he is incharge. Not only that, i think he is tactically inept as well.

Well, maybe not Giggsy yet but MP had been taking care of the team for the last few years and by right the post should be handed to him at the first place hmm.gif

OGS seems very capable, if he succeed at Cardiff iam sure he will manage man utd one day.
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Ozil? lel. He's an invincible man now.

As I've said before last time. Christian Eriksen is the man. Look at him, shining brightly at White Hart Lane. 12mil is a steal for a young and talented CAM. Too late for regrets.
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u just replaced the best manager in british football and u expect the club to do just as well under the new manager? isnt that an insult to saf himself...mcm siapa2 pon boleh buat kerja dia tu huhue laugh.gif

setuju bagi je guardiola hiddink klopp avb blanc di matteo replace moyes...if they can instantly do well then great but if cant then juz sack and hire new one because we manchester united are no different from any other clubs whistling.gif
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If you read properly, MOST of us don't expect him to win anything. But, most of us did not expect it would be this bad either. Or maybe you did...
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QUOTE(Amuro_Ray @ Jan 21 2014, 09:12 PM)
11years at Everton and still a slow learner? Probably true, look at where we are after 6 months he is incharge. Not only that, i think he is tactically inept as well.

Well, maybe not Giggsy yet but MP had been taking care of the team for the last few years and by right the post should  be handed to him at the first place  hmm.gif

OGS seems very capable, if he succeed at Cardiff iam sure he will manage man utd one day.
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His Everton job alone wouldn't prepare him enough for the United job. It would only have been a step in the right direction.

I have no idea why you consider Phelan good enough at all, when nobody else at the club seems to have even considered him for the job. Maybe I'm missing something, but he always struck me more as an assistant sort to advise. Since he has left United, it's not as if he has taken a managerial job and done well anywhere else.

OGS, hopefully he does well! One thing everyone is overlooking, United have (to-date) always appointed a British manager. For OGS or any other foreigner to take the post would be... a real change in tradition biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(legendofhafiz @ Jan 21 2014, 05:16 AM)
Like I said before this, shits happen.avb tend to overspend and snubbed player like adebayor who found new spirit under Sherwood

Basically, everton improve massively due two loanee and upcoming barkley (who moyes protected unlike rodwell and rooney get snapped) and martinez philosophy working well with everton.Even when he managed swans and wigan, you know martinez style although lack of players to do it consistently (and good players easily bought over)

Responsibility is on all shoulder.we lacked leader on the pitch last night and the factor two quality players missing out is huge factor (and shambolic defending) .

I'm backing him up as long as possible(although the patience is wearing thin).but if we want to do damage control,its better this month or give the man to start over from zero. (it took longer than 2 summer)

don't worry too much anyway because United has survived worse than this; missing out CL is painful and disgrace for United stature but I believe United can afford to somehow.
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It's easy for you to say it's ok to miss out on CL. Look what happened to Liverpool financially. The impact of CL on our financial status is big considering the loans taken by the glazers. If our club is not burden by those loans, i am not worried one bit
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QUOTE(benrahman @ Jan 21 2014, 09:05 PM)
I dont think its the right time to sack moyes. His replacement wont do any better with 9 days left in transfer window.

But few things i dont understand with moyes :

- said we dont need Ozil because we have Rooney and Kagawa. But then when Rooney out injured, Kagawa still on the bench. And now we been linked with Mata.

- Dont want to loan out Zaha on loan because Nani and Young injured. And Zaha still dont get the chances to play.
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That's what makes the Mata link so dubious and surprising, and also why I said if Mata joins then I expect Rooney or Kagawa to be sold in the summer sweat.gif Unless he can surprise everyone and find a way to fit them into the same eleven, but that would probably mean one of them playing in CM alongside Carrick..which is... weird to even visualize biggrin.gif

Zaha as a backup player. Just like how Welbeck plays when RVP and/or Rooney are out.

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If you read properly, MOST of us don't expect him to win anything. But, most of us did not expect it would be this bad either. Or maybe you did...
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if u read properly i was directing my comment towards reon

i certainly didnt but perhaps i can take it better than MOST of u do whistling.gif
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History gonna repeat by itself

#MoyesOut
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http://www.football365.com/news/21554/9126304/Gary-Neville

neville says his piece about mata.. totally agree
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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Jan 21 2014, 10:04 PM)
It's easy for you to say it's ok to miss out on CL. Look what happened to Liverpool financially. The impact of CL on our financial status is big considering the loans taken by the glazers. If our club is not burden by those loans, i am not worried one bit
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the situation with liverpool is completely different even though if we missed out cl because

a) they're in debacle of on going war between benitez and hicks/gillet and our managers got fully backing by glazers

b) the way of their managers conducted transfer season after season isn't impressive to challenge the title ( bar reina, torres, xabi, hammann or suarez) whilst we get the right players (bar bebe, buttner and others) under influence of greatest motivator

c) they're in transition after transition and slowly getting it right (doubts in there) required rebuilding which rodgers but we're in different position because we're consistently challenging in cl so we need to get a marquee signing and proper player to step up in case we're missing out cl and I believe there is still quality players (and some are aging and replacements needed)

d) if glazers are so afraid to face the reality of losing money because one season and intend to sell; our name is big enough to attract better suitors. (pretty sure during green and gold campaign bids been launched to get back the club but glazers sre not entertaining potential buyers).People are forgetting how massive our name in globally

e) or glazers can get it right by really break the bank for moyes (or any other manager) to fight back for cl spot upcoming season
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QUOTE(sunblaze @ Jan 21 2014, 10:06 PM)
That's what makes the Mata link so dubious and surprising, and also why I said if Mata joins then I expect Rooney or Kagawa to be sold in the summer  sweat.gif  Unless he can surprise everyone and find a way to fit them into the same eleven, but that would probably mean one of them playing in CM alongside Carrick..which is... weird to even visualize biggrin.gif

Zaha as a backup player. Just like how Welbeck plays when RVP and/or Rooney are out.
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If Mata arrives, it will be the bench or the highway for Kagawa rolleyes.gif
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nah, it just means that Rooney will most likely leave this summer
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I would say " In David Moyes We HAVE To Trust ! " or " David Moyes MUST Stay " lol

( IF )

1 --- > Moyes can win the Capital One Cup.
2 --- > Moyes can finish in the Top Four.
3 --- > Moyes can reach Champions League Semi/final.

4 --- > Moyes can turn things around at Old Trafford after horror season start.
(So Far,6 Defeats against Mid-tier/Bottom-tier Clubs and 3 Defeat against Big Clubs lol)

5 --- > Moyes was able to sign any world-class central midfielder, winger and defender in January or in the summer. (No more Overrated and overpriced players, NO. The perfect example is Fellaini-The Failure-Fellaini-The Mop Flop.)

Keyword : IF

haha xD So far, My trust level 4% "In Moyes We Trust" and 96% "David Moyes Is Destined To Fail" Feel free to disagree or agree, that's your right. Would love to hear your thoughts.
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If Mata arrives, it will be the bench or the highway for Kagawa  rolleyes.gif
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If based on playing time so far and importance to the team, I agree.

But Rooney and his contract situation........................................ >_>
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We're signing Dante now?
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Why are you guys so worry so much..that we are unable to attract big names.. Liverpool didnt play in CL able to attract luis suarez.. Some players just want more playing time and our midfield is hungry for good midfielders..

About rooney.. If he wants to be a legend at united he will stay.. If he goes to chelsea.. His status among the united fans will be totally destroyed in a heartbeat.. Well it is up to him.. More reason to stay than to leave.

About Moyes.. I used to be like you guys want moyes out because he is clueless.. But there is something in him that makes me want him to stay.. I can see he is really trying really hard and that attitude that always back the players even they are not playing well..he always bears the responsibility.. If given time and backings i have no doubt he will bring us success.. He just needs the signings he craves.. If you guys wanna blame.. Blame sir alex for overachieving and david gill for leaving at a time when all the top teams are strengthening leaving it all to ed woodward and david moyes first hand responsibilty when they are still pretty new at the club for dealing with these resposibilties
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Guys, chill out. If not because of SAF overachieving there will be no champions 20 for us.

Moyes is trying, everyone can see it and let's see what he can do if Mata really come.

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11667/9127493
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moyes must go, this is Man U worst season in a longtime rclxub.gif doh.gif
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moyes must go, this is Man U worst season in a longtime  rclxub.gif  doh.gif
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Don't be so negative, it will not bring any good to sack manager middle of the season. Let's finish this season and discuss blush.gif
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now media is making all the news on Mata. I highly doubt... we will sign him. I ald expected we sign no one in this windows.


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now media is making all the news on Mata. I highly doubt... we will sign him. I ald expected we sign no one in this windows.
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Ok. Let's have some possitive thinking.

- we signed Mata!
- DM successfully integrated Mata, Kagawa, Rooney, RvP. He even bring the best out from Kagawa.
- We finished third in the table and qualified for UCL
- Vidic form return
- We won Capital Cup...
- Last one... this really require super +++++ WE WON UCL!
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man utd sign no one,
only recall nick powell on loan biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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Muppet mode ON:

Please DM sign Mata, fast! It will give the squad a lift, adding quality to the squad and most important end United's over reliance on Janujaz. Perhaps, DM will use

different tactics/formation/philosophy too and end Kagawa's nightmare? Finally someone on the same wavelength and quality? Then again, if Kagawa still can't

perform, maybe he will be used as makeweight for someone in the summer. Gundogan/Reus/Moura? brows.gif
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QUOTE(projectnew @ Jan 22 2014, 03:18 AM)
Why are you guys so worry so much..that we are unable to attract big names.. Liverpool didnt play in CL able to attract luis suarez.. Some players just want more playing time and our midfield is hungry for good midfielders..
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Luis Suarez wasnt a big name when Liverpool bought him. his name was on a level of Kuyt, Huntelaar, Kezman etc when they left Dutch league. prolific goal scorer in 2nd tier European league. (my top tier are La Liga, PL, Bundesliga, Serie A)

but i definitely agree to the point that, without CL we cant attract big names. forget key players from Juve, Atletico Madrid, Dortmund etc, or bigger clubs than them.

unless Glazers suddenly change their business philosophy of making money (read: breaking wage structure and transfer record)
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QUOTE(hocksoo @ Jan 22 2014, 08:46 AM)
Ok. Let's have some possitive thinking.

- we signed Mata!
- DM successfully integrated Mata, Kagawa, Rooney, RvP. He even bring the best out from Kagawa.
- We finished third in the table and qualified for UCL
- Vidic form return
- We won Capital Cup...
- Last one... this really require super +++++ WE WON UCL!
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Holy cow, that isn't just positive thinking. That's "I WILL STRIKE THE TOTO JACKPOT TODAY" positive thinking! biggrin.gif


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Muppet mode ON:

Please DM sign Mata, fast! It will give the squad a lift, adding quality to the squad and most important end United's over reliance on Janujaz. Perhaps, DM will use

different tactics/formation/philosophy too and end Kagawa's nightmare? Finally someone on the same wavelength and quality? Then again, if Kagawa still can't

perform, maybe he will be used as makeweight for someone in the summer. Gundogan/Reus/Moura?  brows.gif
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Gundogan injured and hasn't played since August.

Reus linked to Barca.

Moura leaving PSG so soon? blink.gif
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there will be another joke , if Man U really signed Mata. And Mata is not cheap.

Mourinho drop Mata, that really mean something. Mata style is just redundant with Kagawa, if Kagawa failed to carry Manu , Mata also hard to success too.
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mata use to play left wing at valencia.. he is left legged .. Giggs?
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QUOTE(sunblaze @ Jan 22 2014, 08:54 AM)
Gundogan injured and hasn't played since August.

Reus linked to Barca.

Moura leaving PSG so soon?  blink.gif
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Gundogan might come back soon (not sure, just saying) and play again before WC. This might happen in summer, but wouldn't be without competition. Same with

Reus. Hence, the Kagawa makeweight and love by BD fans. In this modern game, anything can happen. There have been rumblings about Cavani not happy in

Paris. Then again, it's just rumours. (Muppet mode: STILL ON) brows.gif
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QUOTE(babykids @ Jan 22 2014, 09:04 AM)
there will be another joke , if Man U really signed Mata. And Mata is not cheap.

Mourinho drop Mata, that really mean something. Mata style is just redundant with Kagawa, if Kagawa failed to carry Manu , Mata also hard to success too.
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Mata was Chelsea's player of the season for the last 2 seasons. That says a lot about his quality.

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Mata may not be the more ideal player for the positions we need, but it is still a big name with tremendous quality and that may be a lift to others...i rmb when we were linked to RvP many were saying we dont really need another striker too

lets see how this develop over the next few days, personally not much high hopes for it but fingers crossed
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Cesc Fàbregas will be better choice, if looking for midfield brain
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One advantage Mata has over Kagawa. Experience. And Mata is versatile, can play on the wings..why Kagawa... tongue.gif And Mata wil be our main set piece taker if he joins.

Come on kayu, dont dissapoint me sad.gif
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QUOTE(babykids @ Jan 22 2014, 09:04 AM)
there will be another joke , if Man U really signed Mata. And Mata is not cheap.

Mourinho drop Mata, that really mean something. Mata style is just redundant with Kagawa, if Kagawa failed to carry Manu , Mata also hard to success too.
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I'll take anyone who can lift the squad now and Mata is a big name. He Could have the same the effect as RVP like last season.
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The main problem is last season, RVP is signed by SAF.
DM is really bad in perform strike football, especially in how bad he using wing.
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Can't you guys see.. mata is originally a left winger that cuts in and score goals.. perfect for us tbh.. No more ashley young bullshit... and most brilliant players are left footed.. Messi RVP januzaj MATA!!! left footed players are kinda rare as well

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fibreglass - koke - herera
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sub: cavani + mata
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Cool... everyone in positive mode.

DM sign Mata. Finish second ahead of Chelsea.
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if Mata really same price like Fellaini, everyone will WTF !!
Fellaini really a failed transfer.

I think better aim for Fabregas, since he is not happy in barca and his power is not utilize in spanish football compare with english football which is focus on speed and midfield.
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QUOTE(babykids @ Jan 22 2014, 09:27 AM)
if Mata really same price like Fellaini, everyone will WTF !!
Fellaini really a failed transfer.

I think better aim for Fabregas, since he is not happy in barca and his power is not utilize in spanish football compare with english football which is focus on speed and midfield.
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Ok. Let's have some possitive thinking.

- we signed Mata!
- DM successfully integrated Mata, Kagawa, Rooney, RvP. He even bring the best out from Kagawa.
- We finished third in the table and qualified for UCL
- Vidic form return
- We won Capital Cup...
- Last one... this really require super +++++ WE WON UCL!
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I would say " In David Moyes We HAVE To Trust ! " or " David Moyes MUST Stay " lol

( IF )

1 --- > Moyes can win the Capital One Cup.
2 --- > Moyes can finish in the Top Four.
3 --- > Moyes can reach Champions League Semi/final.

4 --- > Moyes can turn things around at Old Trafford after horror season start.
(So Far,6 Defeats against Mid-tier/Bottom-tier Clubs and 3 Defeat against Big Clubs lol)

5 --- > Moyes was able to sign any world-class central midfielder, winger and defender in January or in the summer. (No more Overrated and overpriced players, NO. The perfect example is Fellaini-The Failure-Fellaini-The Mop Flop.)

Keyword : IF

haha xD So far, My trust level 4% "In Moyes We Trust" and 96% "David Moyes Is Destined To Fail" Feel free to disagree or agree, that's your right. Would love to hear your thoughts.
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i wonder what if Fellaini plays alongside Kagawa, supporting Welbeck.

a formation like this

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Januzaj - Carrick - Mata (eh)
Fellaini - Kagawa
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it will be an attacking fiesta.

why did I put Fellaini is because i believe in his afroness and physical ability. i wonder why did Moyes insist on him playing with a wrist injury early in the season. ruled out for Belgium, but still play in United's matches.

if only we had a Roy Keane kind of player to be in Carrick's position. physical midfield WIN.

as long as Jones and/or Smalling do not play, the defence is already solid as it is. both players mentioned are really prone to ball watching and herp derp especially during counter attack.

just imagine...

Fellaini covers the ball, passes to Kagawa, slots it for That Kid... GOAL

oh wait I forgot we had Rooney and RvP....

EDIT: and what if Januzaj and Fellaini partner in midfield. OH MY BELGIUM CHOCOLATE

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Fellaini covers the ball, passes to Kagawa, slots it for That Kid... GOAL
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Fellaini needs to play his previous role again. Going forward. Our tanker for the forward line. Hnghhh.
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QUOTE(babykids @ Jan 22 2014, 09:27 AM)
if Mata really same price like Fellaini, everyone will WTF !!
Fellaini really a failed transfer.

I think better aim for Fabregas, since he is not happy in barca and his power is not utilize in spanish football compare with english football which is focus on speed and midfield.
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Fellaini is more physical, and when he's in form, he goes crazy. I would like to play him along side Carrick rather than AMF, and if Mata comes, just rotate him with evilkagawa.

I would like 4132 with roo and RVP partnering cos that's lethal. with janu, mata/evilkagawa, nani/valenc/zaha (lol), and Carrick/afro dropping for DM? can't comment much on back 4.

we are linked with soooooooo many. most hopeful is mata, hoping it'll be through
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Fellani going forward is just like a beast, can score goal somemore. Can bully those defendars haha...
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this formation weakness , defence drop , stamina burn fast.
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I don't believe Fellaini wouldn't make it playing for United in CM/DM position. He does it for Belgium, and as an article/forum/internetz mentioned somewhere which

I can't remember, he played well there in his first season. He just started to play there while the strikers were all injured in his second season. I guess he just

need to get used to United, as an overwhole overall. Please don't kill me grammar nazis. Training regime, size of the club, blablabla, yadayadayada. But of

course, he would have the ability to bully the bigger defenders, and protect the ball for Kagawa to play and pass it around. I just think Kagawa is still not showing

what he really can do, that sharp turns has not always can be seen. Maybe the over physical nature of the league shocked him a bit. Bundesliga is anything but

physical. Even La Liga can be seen more physical than Bundesliga nowadays. blink.gif

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Let the rumours begin brows.gif and you thought having SAF sitting there in the stands, just to be hindrance or added pressure to DM tongue.gif
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David Gill, SAF and Woody! At the same time! Hmmm... hmm.gif
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David Gill, SAF and Woody! At the same time! Hmmm...  hmm.gif
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Mata for £37 mil .... Hmmmm. Moyes just buy player like m.hughes did with man.city.
Throw the money so easily ...

Info dailymail - Mata

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QUOTE(Sheep319 @ Jan 22 2014, 09:44 AM)
i wonder what if Fellaini plays alongside Kagawa, supporting Welbeck.

a formation like this

De Gea
Rafael - Vidic - Evans - Evra
Januzaj - Carrick - Mata (eh)
Fellaini - Kagawa
That Kid


it will be an attacking fiesta.

why did I put Fellaini is because i believe in his afroness and physical ability. i wonder why did Moyes insist on him playing with a wrist injury early in the season. ruled out for Belgium, but still play in United's matches.

if only we had a Roy Keane kind of player to  be in Carrick's position. physical midfield WIN.

as long as Jones and/or Smalling do not play, the defence is already solid as it is. both players mentioned are really prone to ball watching and herp derp especially during counter attack.

just imagine...

Fellaini covers the ball, passes to Kagawa, slots it for That Kid... GOAL

oh wait I forgot we had Rooney and RvP....

EDIT: and what if Januzaj and Fellaini partner in midfield. OH MY BELGIUM CHOCOLATE
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Mata not that good at wings. No speed. His best role is number 10.

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Mata not that good at wings. No speed. His best role is number 10.
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perhap but he did played there wt valencia.. under matteo mata also hv started from flank cut inside
i think mata can be good playing anywhere supporting the striker

talksport - how mata will start wt rooney and rvp
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Mata does not worth £37m!!! doh.gif rclxub.gif shocking.gif shakehead.gif
There r better players with that price tag
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QUOTE(bob @ Jan 22 2014, 11:08 AM)
Mata for £37 mil .... Hmmmm. Moyes just buy player like m.hughes did with man.city.
Throw the money so easily ...

Info dailymail - Mata
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even at 37mil it still seem much reasonable than amount of money united pay fellaini..

seeing how chelsea fan react wt the news really make me want mata more.. come on make it happen la


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Although at this stage it still rumours, but if signing Mata means it would lift the spirit of the squad (Ozil effects) I would be happy. Maybe Kagawa would up his

game, and finally give Janujaz/Valencia a rest. Young to play at right wing/midfield, as his crosses tend to be much better when he plays there. Much much better

than Valencia at the moment. CM/DM is the priority alongside LB, but if it means Dave is waiting for summer to recruit the very best or at least another level of

quality than what United currently have, I would gladly accept it. Not a good move to buy just to compensate the numbers in January, and then missing out

players like Gundogan or Reus. At the moment, Cleverley, Fletcher and Fellaini are squad players but I am willing to give Fellaini another chance to show what he

is capable of. Carrick is 32 and Jones is not a natural midfielder. Still would like to see him alongside Evans for the long term partnership of back four. Until

January is over, muppetry mode would be on full time brows.gif
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QUOTE(chiafoo @ Jan 22 2014, 12:50 PM)
Mata does not worth £37m!!! doh.gif  rclxub.gif  shocking.gif  shakehead.gif
There r better players with that price tag
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ha..suddenly all fap on mata, if he performs badly..then all say overpriced & unecessary buy since got rooney, kagawa...similar to afro case all over again
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Tbh I have mixed feeling about Mata. Not because he is not quality but I'm not sure where he will be deploy as we have Rooney and Kagawa already. No way Moyes will bench a fit Rooney, so I think Kagawa will be sacrifice next season if Mata is coming.

Or Moyes foreseen that RVP will be injury prone and playing Mata behind Rooney and Kagawa as a backup (bench again)?

Argghh. Either way tension aku tgk Kagawa tak main. Pity him sad.gif

Will not open soccernet until the transfer window close. That would really help.
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easy , Rooney push to forward (the position he like to play with). Problem solved.
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QUOTE(babykids @ Jan 22 2014, 01:40 PM)
easy , Rooney push to forward (the position he like to play with). Problem solved.
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As I said in the second paragraph, unless he sees RVP is injury prone. Then we can see that, with Kagawa in the bench again.

A fit RVP and Rooney is confirm first 11. Mata and Kagawa?

I really think this is only a hype made by media. We need to be sensible in our transfer dealing. Rugi wo beli mahal2 and bench them.
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Good read on Januzaj

Adnan Januzaj by the men who forged Manchester United's rising star

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/j...ted-rising-star
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QUOTE(damnself @ Jan 22 2014, 01:51 PM)
As I said in the second paragraph, unless he sees RVP is injury prone. Then we can see that, with Kagawa in the bench again.

A fit RVP and Rooney is confirm first 11. Mata and Kagawa?

I really think this is only a hype made by media. We need to be sensible in our transfer dealing. Rugi wo beli mahal2 and bench them.
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Mata is quality signing. but it means Moyes need to alter the current system /style (to deploy the likes of Rooney, Mata, Kagawa, Januzaj in a same XI). its middle of the season, so i dont expect immediate improvement. it'll be hit and miss..

i'll welcome the addition, but looking forward the impact on a long run..

the big question mark remain, is Mourinho willing to sell? i dont think so.. unless with agreement that Rooney go to the other side. Mourinho not stupid, we are desperate.. and they are not desperate for money.
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Strange that even G.Neville said Mata not suitable for ManUtd.
For me, i see him as Paul Scholes replacement in our midfield.

We need someone to be a leader in midfield, to pick up our forwards running and created chances. Plus he is proven in PL rclxms.gif
He could play in the left side ( if 4-3-3) formation so in this area he is better than Kagawa where he only shines if behind striker.
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QUOTE(Amuro_Ray @ Jan 22 2014, 03:49 PM)
Strange that even G.Neville said Mata not suitable for ManUtd.
For me, i see him as Paul Scholes replacement in our midfield.

We need someone to be a leader in midfield, to pick up our forwards running and created chances. Plus he is proven in PL  rclxms.gif
He could play in the left side  ( if 4-3-3) formation so in this area he is better than Kagawa where he only shines if behind striker.
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Juan Mata doesn't have the defensive game as compared to Paul Scholes (his miss time tackle is bad but he does track back).
Perhaps also why Oscar is being selected ahead of Mata in Chelsea team. Oscar is a more complete player.
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Mata pun mata laaaa...

Dante pun dante laaa....
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QUOTE(allenultra @ Jan 22 2014, 03:53 PM)
Juan Mata doesn't have the defensive game as compared to Paul Scholes (his miss time tackle is bad but he does track back).
Perhaps also why Oscar is being selected ahead of Mata in Chelsea team. Oscar is a more complete player.
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Yeah... obviously JM is looking for work-rate type of player. All starting 11 need to perform defensive duty, even though is attacking player. No doubt Mata is great attacker, it is really depend how the team using him. If we are attacking team, then probably a good deal. We conceding 1 goal, we score twice. Concede 2 we score 4.
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QUOTE(caballero206 @ Jan 22 2014, 04:16 PM)
Mata pun mata laaaa...

Dante pun dante laaa....
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Dante dah 30. If come cheap oklah I guess. Experience wise excellent. Re-sale value tak ada. Bola la bertahan 2-3 tahun sweat.gif
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How old is Henrik Larsson and Michael Owen when they signed with us?
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If moyes ditch the fast winger counter attack style of play that Ferguson do, then here is my vision on where we can slot Mata in:

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Sorry I use my ultimate team apps for this hahaha.

With Mata behind van persie and in front fellaini as CDM. Rooney can take place as center attacking midfielder, with free passing options to almost everywhere.

Instead winger play, this way we can utilize kagawa and mata attacking work rate and also Rooney precision pass. Not sure if anyone not agree if I put rooney in midfield position, but I think he suit best there hmm.gif
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QUOTE(RevolutionWorks @ Jan 22 2014, 04:33 PM)
If moyes ditch the fast winger counter attack style of play that Ferguson do, then here is my vision on where we can slot Mata in:

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Sorry I use my ultimate team apps for this hahaha.

With Mata behind van persie and in front fellaini as CDM. Rooney can take place as center attacking midfielder, with free passing options to almost everywhere.

Instead winger play, this way we can utilize kagawa and mata attacking work rate and also Rooney precision pass. Not sure if anyone not agree if I put rooney in midfield position, but I think he suit best there  hmm.gif
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How old is Henrik Larsson and Michael Owen when they signed with us?
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The bigger question is why would Bayern sell Dante at all, let alone for a reasonable price when he is a key player for them.

Larsson and Owen didn't hurt our pocket.


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QUOTE(Amuro_Ray @ Jan 22 2014, 03:49 PM)
Strange that even G.Neville said Mata not suitable for ManUtd.
For me, i see him as Paul Scholes replacement in our midfield.

We need someone to be a leader in midfield, to pick up our forwards running and created chances. Plus he is proven in PL  rclxms.gif
He could play in the left side  ( if 4-3-3) formation so in this area he is better than Kagawa where he only shines if behind striker.
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replacement for scholes is rooney la ..

rooney > mata

mata is good when attacking, but cannot defend ..lousy and not good enough for Man Utd

when rooney is not around, play kagawa la .. Moyes should stop playing kagawa on the left wing ..he doesnt suit playing there under Moyes, Welbeck is better to play on the left ..not kagawa

kagawa is under-utilised under Moyes ..better sell him back to dortmund
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Haish, wat the hell want to buy a winger/AM when what we really need is a creative CM?

But, better than nothing kot.
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Good read on Januzaj

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http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/j...ted-rising-star
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The bigger question is why would Bayern sell Dante at all, let alone for a reasonable price when he is a key player for them.

Larsson and Owen didn't hurt our pocket.
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I really refuse to believe anything until Mata is holding up the United shirt next to gollum. Until then I will cry myself to sleep and hope it is true. Get it done Woodward you donkey
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Mata to Man Utd is very possible if we really got money to spend

Mourinho is genius...by selling Mata with premium price to United...not only they got a lot of $$$$ but also strengthen our team to face their league title competitor like Arsenal and City
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QUOTE(onepack @ Jan 22 2014, 12:46 PM)
perhap but he did played there wt valencia.. under matteo mata also hv started from flank cut inside
i think mata can be good playing anywhere supporting the striker

talksport - how mata will start wt rooney and rvp
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i think he used to play left wing for valencia right? but mourinho prefer hazard/willian over him on the flanks now. I dont really like him playing on the right tho.

But he's such a quality player, having him will just strengthen the squad.

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