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post Feb 13 2014, 01:05 AM

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Lahad Datu: A year later

Despite having lost her husband ASP Zulkifli Mamat to Sulu gunmen in Lahad Datu last year, Noor Aziah has been courageously continuing on with her life.
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When her husband’s team was deployed to respond to information that Sulu gunmen were hiding in Kampung Simunul, Semporna, Jabah Mingku Voon was not too worried.
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PETALING JAYA: On the day Sergeant Salam Togiran was deployed to in Kampung Simunul, Semporna against Sulu gunmen, his wife Marlinah Utan felt something troubling her.
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A year after Police Sergeant Azis Sarikon was gunned down in Semporna’s Kg Simunul during the March 2 ambush by Sulu gunmen, his family have yet to come to terms with his tragic death.
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For 12-year-old Nur Izzaty Syafiqah, her father’s clothing has a calming effect whenever she feels depressed.
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post Feb 13 2014, 01:44 AM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Feb 13 2014, 12:23 AM)
After 2012 many public transport project need big $$$ billion-billion with in 8 year time.
estimated 3 MRT cost 65-70 Billion, HSR KL-SG cost 30-40 Billion, also some new highway and Electric rail project. Event gov will delay 2~5 year JB MRT, Kelana Jaya-Klang MRT project.

have to wait until 2015 after GST start, maybe at that time Gov will have better budget.
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If government willing to spend that much on those project y not put some money into military.
We can buy in small batches.

We are having trouble now is because we dun have clear vision in our procurement.
at least come out with white papers on our procurement direction.
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post Feb 13 2014, 02:11 AM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Feb 13 2014, 01:44 AM)
We are having trouble now is because we dun have clear vision in our procurement.
at least come out with white papers on our procurement direction.
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Indeed we must have some kind of white paper to at least understand the problem

Too many gaps to be filled, all across the three branches of armed forces
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post Feb 13 2014, 08:56 AM

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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Feb 12 2014, 11:24 PM)
nowadays tank still use 105mm?
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utk medium tank tu...ATM patut pakai to complement PT91M...Indon pun dh JV dgn Turki utk hasilkan medium tank..kita bila lagi?
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post Feb 13 2014, 09:28 AM

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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Feb 12 2014, 11:24 PM)
nowadays tank still use 105mm?
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Marder Medium Tank prototype from Rheinmetall use a rifled, stabilized 105mm Oto-Melara gun. It is based from Marder IFV.

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post Feb 13 2014, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Feb 13 2014, 01:44 AM)
If government willing to spend that much on those project y not put some money into military.
We can buy in small batches.

We are having trouble now is because we dun have clear vision in our procurement.
at least come out with white papers on our procurement direction.
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But for now, base on current gov deficit, for finance people view any new “unnecessary” military purchase will increase deficit, it may impact our “financial Rating”.
Agree, Mindef should change strategic and propose to gov and buy in small batches, like 4-8 unit.

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post Feb 13 2014, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Feb 13 2014, 10:39 AM)
But for now, base on current gov deficit, for finance people view any new “unnecessary” military purchase will increase deficit, it may impact our “financial Rating”.  
Agree, Mindef should change strategic and propose to gov and buy in small batches, like 4-8 unit.
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Malaysia should follow what Indonesia did. The Indonesian Navy purchased the 2 PKR Sigma 10514 with a two-ship programme strategy anually with a plan of 20 unit by 2024. Buying in batches.

IMDEX Asia 2013: Two-ship programme firms up for Indonesian PKR frigate

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post Feb 13 2014, 11:17 AM

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Malaysia should follow what Indonesia did. The Indonesian Navy purchased the 2 PKR Sigma 10514 with a two-ship programme strategy anually with a plan of 20 unit by 2024. Buying in batches.

IMDEX Asia 2013: Two-ship programme firms up for Indonesian PKR frigate
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Is there any official announcement on the 20 ships order?

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post Feb 13 2014, 11:42 AM

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Is there any official announcement on the 20 ships order?
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Plan not order. Anyway PT.PAL got the license to built 20 unit.

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post Feb 13 2014, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Feb 13 2014, 10:54 AM)
Malaysia should follow what Indonesia did. The Indonesian Navy purchased the 2 PKR Sigma 10514 with a two-ship programme strategy anually with a plan of 20 unit by 2024. Buying in batches.

IMDEX Asia 2013: Two-ship programme firms up for Indonesian PKR frigate
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i think we already done such programme with our Kedah-class NGPV ships..then PSC happen..lel biggrin.gif

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post Feb 13 2014, 01:43 PM

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S. Korea completes delivery of 16 T-50 trainers to Indonesia

2014/02/13 15:12

By Kim Eun-jung

SEOUL, Feb. 13 (Yonhap) -- South Korea has completed the delivery of 16 T-50 supersonic trainer jets built by the Korea Aerospace Industries (KAI) to Indonesia, the Korean aircraft maker said Thursday, paving the way for expanding bilateral defense cooperation.

After signing a US$400 million deal in 2011, KAI said it delivered 16 T-50i planes between September and January using ferry flights via Taiwan and the Philippines.

On Thursday, Indonesian President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono hosted a ceremony celebrating its deployment at Halim Perdanakusumah Airport in Jakarta, which was attended by the South Korean Air Force chief and senior military officials of the two nations.

"T-50i is the symbol of the close relations and cooperation in the defense industry of the two nations," Lee Yong-geol, the head of the state-run Defense Acquisition Program Administration (DAPA), said in the ceremony.

KAI President Ha Sung-yong vowed to provide maintenance and other support for the Indonesian Air Force in the following decades.

With sales of T-50s to Indonesia, South Korea has become the world's sixth supersonic trainer jet exporter.

Indonesia is the biggest Southeast Asian buyer for South Korea's defense industry, buying Korean-made submarines and trainer jets.

Southeast Asia's biggest economy is also participating in Seoul's indigenous fighter development program, codenamed KFX, investing about 20 percent of the initial development cost.

The KFX project aims to build F-16 class fighter jets to replace the Air Force's aging fleet of F-4 and F-5 fighter planes, while eyeing the overseas market with homegrown aircraft.

The state arms development agency has been working on the concept and designs of the aircraft, waiting for the government's approval to start a full-scale project.


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SINGAPORE: Air force to receive last M-346 trainers

By: Craig Hoyle Singapore

04:22 12 Feb 2014

Singapore’s new-generation advanced jet trainer fleet will be complete within weeks, with Alenia Aermacchi poised to deliver its last of 12 M-346 aircraft.

Ten aircraft have already been delivered to the Republic of Singapore Air Force, along with associated ground-based training equipment and an initial package of logistics support, the European manufacturer says. The remainder will follow in March, it adds.

Operations with Singapore’s first M-346s began at Cazaux air base in France in February 2013, with its first student pilot having entered training the following month.

Singapore ordered its M-346 fleet in 2010 as replacements for aged Douglas A-4 Skyhawk trainers. Alenia Aermacchi is teamed with Boeing and ST Aerospace to deliver the programme.

Alenia Aermacchi has also sold the twin-engined type to Israel and Italy, and been formally selected by Poland.


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post Feb 13 2014, 06:13 PM

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Singapore Airshow 2014: Brunei to acquire CN235-220 aircraft for maritime operations

Ridzwan Rahmat, Singapore - IHS Jane's Navy International
11 February 2014
 
The Royal Brunei Air Force (RBAF) is set to acquire three CN235-220 aircraft from Indonesian aerospace company PT Dirgantara Indonesia (Persero) for maritime patrol and anti-submarine (ASW) operations.

Persero spokesperson Teguh Graito told IHS Jane's on 12 February at the Singapore Airshow that he had received strong indications from the RBAF that they had come to a decision. Acquisition details are expected to be finalised soon.

Colonel Shahril Anwar Bin Hj Ma'awiah, director of the Directorate of Force Capability Development at the Brunei Ministry of Defence (MINDEF), told IHS Jane's in December 2013 that one of the country's priorities was the acquisition of fixed-wing maritime patrol aircraft.


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post Feb 13 2014, 07:46 PM

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Official hand-over ceremony of 16 units T-50i Golden Eagle to the Indonesian Air Force.

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post Feb 13 2014, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Feb 13 2014, 09:28 AM)
Marder Medium Tank prototype from Rheinmetall use a rifled, stabilized 105mm Oto-Melara gun. It is based from Marder IFV.

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wow look cool wub.gif wub.gif
How nice we can have this to supplement our MBT

Light- sorpian
Medium - Marder
Heavy - PT91

BACK TO WW2 tank formation laugh.gif
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post Feb 14 2014, 01:20 AM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Feb 13 2014, 10:50 PM)
wow look cool wub.gif  wub.gif
How nice we can have this to supplement our MBT

Light- sorpian
Medium - Marder
Heavy - PT91

BACK TO WW2 tank formation  laugh.gif
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I prefer sph + multi variant ifv with mbt running the front.
105/120mm Fire support, scouting, communication command and control, atgm, mortar and anti air for the ifv.
the main battle tank bulldoze enemy frontline.
I wonder if any SEA nation have such capability.
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Feb 14 2014, 01:20 AM)
I prefer sph + multi variant ifv with mbt running the front.
105/120mm Fire support, scouting, communication command and control, atgm, mortar and anti air for the ifv.
the main battle tank bulldoze enemy frontline.
I wonder if any SEA nation have such capability.
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anyway, is ATM getting sph? laugh.gif smile.gif
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post Feb 14 2014, 02:24 AM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Feb 14 2014, 02:20 AM)
anyway, is ATM getting sph? laugh.gif  smile.gif
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Sabar bro, AV8 tak lepas lagi
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QUOTE(thpace @ Feb 14 2014, 02:20 AM)
anyway, is ATM getting sph? laugh.gif  smile.gif
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Dun seem like we are getting it.
the current menhan focus on marine.
hisap seem like usmc fans. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Feb 14 2014, 02:24 AM)
Sabar bro, AV8 tak lepas lagi
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Av8 boleh dapat tahun ini.
tak silap saya paling lambat pun bulan sept.

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Commissioned by the government for the Malaysian military, the project will involve the design, development and manufacture of 257 AV8s, with production peaking in 2016 and 2017. The first AV8 will be rolled out by the middle of this year.
http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...M17bil-by-2015/

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