Wow I see you are now a changed man. From a person whom complaint a lot last time to a person who accepts. That's a good positive thinking .

I think you are right and I support what you said about people's expectation. Let me put it into 2 possible points for setting an expectation.
1st Point is level of expectation. Some people would say its a car and its just for driving...so if the car can fly or the roof have no sound, then its an added advantage.
2nd Point is education. Some people whom is a car person like us would know there is an issue and is expected it not to happen. But some non-car people will think that the sound is something that is expected from the car, hence not an issue. "They do not know an issue is actually an issue"
I also support Aroma for his opinion. For when you buy something, the main expectation is the thing should work 100% with not even minor issues. We paid for a 100% not for 80% car, 20% issue . The debate here is , should the customer eat up the 20% themselves if there is really the 20% issue. One way to think about the discounts are the RM8000 or whatever number of discounts are actually the money Toyota is paying you to eat up the 20% issue.

I think all Car Sellers are smart evil businessmen. For example, in Takata airbag issue. They should have fixed the issue many years ago in each and every cars. But these guys from Toyota, Honda, Nissan probably kept the secret to themselves and probably agreed to keep the secret together until recently someone brought it up into court and made such big huu haa internationally. If they kept this Life Risking related issue for so many years and not fixed it, should we think they will care any bit of non-life risking vios mounting issue.. Lets keep it to the reality that these big companies wont care about our small potato until someone bring it up to court or when lets say 1000 people died in cars with their brand on it.

I think we as buyer, at most can do is not to support the Brand anymore (if you really hate them for the issue they gave you) or try to become a smart buyer (research in the internet, become pro tester like Aroma    by doing a thorough testing or ask people all around). I admit I only drove normally, straight and never gone thorough enough to test every part of the car during test drive.

yeap point noted from everyone here 

RM130 promotion price now for basic care air-con service at 30k interval service.

At toyota service centre now for 30k service. Air conditioning service cost 400 something? Is it necessary to do it?

That is why i kept repeating when you expect to buy a expensive car, you do expect good silent quality car in return. you pay for more than 100-500k car, you don't expect to get a quality like rm20-30k cars.

in my dictionary, you pay peanut, you get peanut..

yes the best car i can live up with is AUDI. it's damn quite inside cabin and didn't bring me headache so far. I will leave my others cars either in garage or just sell it off.

RM130 promotion price now for basic care air-con service at 30k interval service.

if you can stand such noise and issues that most of us got it during delivery of new vehicle, prolly u can stand with cheaper cars like wira waja proton perodua... my point is if u dont mind the weird noise/sound, prolly u should get cheapest car like myvi , or axia... reliable , cheap + save fuel

when we purchase a good quality brand vehicle, we expect goods in return... not like some defect here and there hell!

I think its like rm130 only due to promotion. I've posted this few days back on the cost breakdown for 30k km service interval.
Bro, Vios is B segment for developing countries market. Audi is another segment. Cant compare apple-apple one.
Yeap.
Its Malaysia and we're heavily burdened by the automotive tax system.

I did not compare.

Among all the cars i have, Audi is the best so far. But i don't know its reliability though.

I did not condemn Vios, or City, but i merely stated out what problems both car encounter minor/major problems

I am also giving out awareness to potential buyers so they will choose wisely when they did google or any site visit on internet

SO cheers!

Friend, among ur cars it's all japs sub rm200k cars versus rm300k car. For sure different la.

But of course, our key point here is to let people what to expect from a Vios.

Cheers

just got my Vios.. When i engage to reverse gear there is nothing show on the screen except some wording at the bottom screen.

Other than that, the player dvd avn server me well.. any setting to activate the reverse camer?

I did not compare.

Among all the cars i have, Audi is the best so far. But i don't know its reliability though.

I did not condemn Vios, or City, but i merely stated out what problems both car encounter minor/major problems

I am also giving out awareness to potential buyers so they will choose wisely when they did google or any site visit on internet

SO cheers!

funny seeing you repeating "audi" in some vios and altis thread...
well, previously my family owns older-gen of audi, from c3 to c4. we observed the c3 was super quiet inside, c4 losing abit and we can hear "rain water flowing" of tyre (might because of thinner material on tyre fender area).

so we shifted from 21 year old of c4 to altis 1st gen. i can say altis handling is inferior, but what we like is the parts simplicity and probably low maintenance. previously on audi i spent min 3k per year for maintenance and parts changing. with the altis i probably spend less than 1k, so far only engine oil changed once this year!

what i'm trying to say is, there are pro and cons of every brand, audi doesn't equal to best car, you might satisfied with it now, but i observed the trend of your past posting, you might complain on it sooner...

Do you have reverse camera installed on your car, if yes then your screen will display the video capture.

i don't mind of pricey maintenance price as long as the car serve me good

Again, i don't expect to get a super lousy car with the premium price i paid

and many of my friends are also using audi.. they don't complain for the maintenance price. ppl who can afford an expensive car won't care about maintenance .... well... mostly.

so far nothing to complain well... except maybe engine broke down? *touch wood*

to be precise - it's broken parts replacement cost.
and please be hardworking to check the engine oil level at least every 2k km. Manual written permissible oil consumption is 1 litre/1000km, don't wait till the low oil pressure warning lamp triggered only check.

until when the rm130 aircond promo?

i think its end of this month.

try to call and double confirm better,