Hi

Would like to introduce to you some stuff that you may need during your renovations

Network Cable - Cat5e/Cat6 (305 meters / per box)


Faceplate - Cat5e Single/Dual, Cat6 Angled Type Single/Dual


PoE Splitter - (provide network and power via network cable up to 20meter)


Indoor/Outdoor Super WiFi Access Point - (WiFi with Smart Antenna Technology, can be used indoor and pointing AP to garden/guard house for bigger area coverage)


Wireless-N High Power Extender - (extend the wireless signal of your Unifi/Maxis WiFi router)




HomePlug 600Mbps Powerline AV/AV2 Adapter with AC Pass Through / Gigabit LAN Port


HomePlug 500Mbps Powerline AV/AV2 Adapter with Wireless-N 300Mbps Access Point and Dual LAN Port




This post has been edited by jellybeanz: Feb 12 2014, 07:09 PM

how much it cost for a box?

3 pic what is that for?

interested, pm me for price

please pm price for the 3 items. do you help to provide knowledge how we can lay the cable if we give you the house situation? thanks

This post has been edited by quintesson: Jan 8 2014, 10:33 PM

price?

3rd picture is PoE (Power Over Ethernet) Splitter.
It enables you to power up and network your device via single lan cable.
I have added a picture in first post to show the connection.
If you already have network port faceplate at certain location but do not have a power socket, use this method and place the power adapter of your device at the router location so all your device power adapter will be centralized.

3rd picture still require a PoE switch?

No you dont need.

that splitter alone able to power up IP cam with just the low voltage from RJ45?

Switch/Router > RJ45 > splitter > IP cam ?

Camera;s Power Adapter and LAN cable from router > PoE > LAN Cable > PoE > Camera
See the picture in first post (will try to take a clearer picture)

ah missed the pic. now i understood. how much is the splitter?

Nice. How good is it? Can pm me the price?

PM D.

If I have network cable already lay around in my house and I want to install 4 camera around my house, do I need to attach 4 camera's power adapter with PoE Splitter to the router?

I have unifi. What eqpt do i need to extend it?

Extend? Wifi signal or lay LAN cable?

Lan cable.

Thanks.

How many points u need?

maybe 2 to 3 more points....

You can choose to use homeplug and no hacking required
Or just add a network switch and lay network cables.

Hi, I have unifi and would like to have 1 point on ground floor and 3 points (1 in each room on 1st floor). How much will it cost?

Also, what is homeplug?

Maybe you have missed this, can you help me with this?

Sorry for the late reply. If you already have network cable, you just need power socket at the location of the camera. if you dont have then you can use the PoE splitter method.

I dont have power socket at the location of the camera, only network cable, if 4 cameras around the house then I have to put 1 or 4 camera's power adapter?

Hope this diagram can help to explain the homeplug.

Every camera requires a power adapter so you need 4 adapters. better if you can provide a simple diagram of your house and the location of camera, power sockets and unifi device.

can pm me the best price for the poe spliter ? tq.
is so hard to get a cheap poe camera nowday.

hi can pm me how much 2 boxes of the network cables cost and at least 6 points. Thanks

Anyone know how much a Cynics POE (CNC 4230) camera costs? Can you get it at Low Yat Plaza? Was quoted RM 600 from a supplier so just want to dbl check the pricing.
Thanks
Suren

For the home plug, i can use the power cable as an ethernet cable? and will the speed be effected?

PM me pricing for

Network Cable - Cat5e/Cat6 (305 meters / per box)
Faceplate - Cat5e Single/Dual, Cat6 Angled Type Single/Dual

Hi

Sorry for the late reply.
Homeplug or Powerline is using power/electrical cable to transfer the network data.
Speed will depend on the quality of cable, noise, distance,etc

Assume the environment is good you could get up to 100-150mbps throughput (same circuit)

I got the same quote too, and its from a Low Yat supplier. I have engaged him for upgrading my existing alarm system

Will it work in 3-phase power supply?! Because each power socket may be connected to different phase wire...

Hi

The homeplug needs a physical connection same as using LAN cable.
If the different phases are not connected or there are no link between one link to another, then there will not be a connection.
Bear in mind also when using homeplug best to use in same circuit to get the best throughput or performance. Link between different
circuit will add noise to the link and performance will go down.

From my earlier testing, homeplug connection speed are bad when the distance go longer, and more equipment are sharing the same live wires. Worse if your neighbor using another homeplug (on the same live wires). Sometime can even drop to 10Mbps. I also encounter putting two cheap LED driver, and the homeplug speed became unstable.

Maybe newer homeplug have improvement over the noise.

I just spend ~rm150-200 for wireless N network and my whole house can get connection, no wire mess.

For small throughput maybe 10Mbps or less, wireless are good, but if want to run few high throughput connection say few Media player playing from a NAS storage wireless may not be good.

If house are under renovation, is good to wired it. I have 11 LAN points, 5 for LAN, remaining for future CCTV.

I have the same thought as you. I am going to have 16 LAN port running through out the house. Another good option is to run 802.11AC router which will give you around 500mbps transfer rate (theoretically)

Well, I don't really watch LAN movie from my TV. By buying a media player, I can use pendrive which is easier. After all, I'm not OKU yet. Walk a bit more is good for health.

Not about walking is about storing movies and images. I have like 50gigs of kids cartoons, and many full HD good movies.

50GB only, I got about a 10X more than yours. And I use AC Ryan to solve all my problems.

50 only kids stuff, hd are more, few hundred gigs, and My nas not only putting videos and images. I use it as iscsi to run VMware, and is operate with raid in case disk failure. So far synology servings me well.

You have some point here, but after I had HDD failure, I'll try to keep low. After watch, clear it out.

Now I also do backup over the cloud. Usd60 per year can get few T.Bytes. cheaper than buying h.disk

Guys want to ask my electriction uses cat6 cable but uses cat5e faceplate/socket is it ok?

Is useless because you won't get cat6 performance.

that electrician say can one....

http://donutey.com/ethernet.php
Do some read ups on cables first before you being cheated.
Network cable from start till today are still using RJ-45, the socket has not been changed on the standard, your electrician is right.


My jaw dropped when I read this

You can drop what you want, but it also show the knowledge of network you have.

I managed and design network for many years, I know what I am writing. Cat6 performance can go up to 10gpbs, but that need to be operate at higher frequency. Cat6 uses thicker copper better insulation which helps reducing near end cross talk - the CAT6 jacks are made to take this into accounts. If you use Cat6 cabling, but only Cat5E connectors on each end, the network is only going to be rated to Cat5E

All Cat6 cabling need to run a series of noise testing before it get certified as Cat6 enviroment. Putting Cat6 cabling and all the socket with cat6 is not certified if its not tested. Running at 10Gbps will generate lots of CRC error if noise level are high and create worse network compare to CAT5e. The only true CAT6 environment i see as of now is only in Data center running and maintaining 10Gbps, not even in big corporate.

If a home owner want to have so call CAT 6 cabling, but only running on 1Gbps, my advice go with CAT5e good quality cables like KRONE or AMP which both under the same umbrella.

If worry Cat5e get outdated, better lay entire house with single mode fiber. Can go up to 100Gbps.

I said you made my jaw dropped is the socket have difference which in the fact not. I never say the cable.
And you don't really know what you are typing. Type and write is totally different in cyber world.
Also, cat5e that nearing to its lifespan in networking world, some of them do have twisted pair which is same at cat6. And do our PC's network card really can support 10Gbps also is a ?
This remind me on audio's RCA cables, some like to boast around that they have a rm10000 RCA that are far more superior than those rm100 RCA cables. But when I do a blind side by side test between his superior RCA to my DIY RCA that using cat6 network cable, he can't really hear the difference.

Let get it clear, my definition of socket is this (http://www.dreamstime.com/royalty-free-stock-photo-computer-network-socket-image3101095) some called it keystone.

Socket/keystone have a different. Cat6 certified socket will have low noise operating at 250mhz, and for some can afford others can even go up to 500mhz. Even the patch cords, and patch panel need to be tested at 250Mhz and above to get CAT6 certified.



Cat6 is made for high frequency and 10Gbps with backward compatible. Cat5e is not nearing to its lifespan, Cat5e is been proven to run from 10mbps up to 1Gbps without any issue, even some old office with Cat5e cabling by just replacing Switch + new notebook all running at 1Gbps without any error.

Without proper noise testing on CAT6, is as good as using only CAT5e

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1572493
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_y...26132819AA3H1x8
http://www.avforums.com/threads/cat5-socke...-cable.1085163/
Just a simple search and non of them says I'm wrong and it is ok to use the same socket.
I got an optical cable but non of my equipment can support that speed also useless.
Why I won't doubt your "Experience", but I hope you don't abuse your "experience" and mislead people to install what they don't need in the first place and waste their money.

My reply is very clear, can use cat5e socket but can't get cat6 performance.

My reply also very clear, there's no need to have something that is not needed unless just want to boast around.

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Guys!

What should i tell my electrician now? as he already lay cat6 cable what socket/faceplate he SHOULD use?(Cat6/5e?)
Do i need to ask him on testing it or anything?





one more thing should i get my electrician to install 2-port faceplate over here?
my electrician said he just going to put the head connector there no need socket he said....
(i scared of accidently pulling it can break the cable..)
which is the proper way?
- install 2-port faceplate
- or just connector (electrician way)

This post has been edited by soR: Feb 16 2014, 10:12 PM

Follow what he said on the socket selection, you will only need "true" cat6 socket if you are running a data center server.
As said, your are just home use, no need to be so fast.
On the wall, sure use the socket for better appearance.
Also, if you ask him to put cat6 socket, will you know? I doubt so.

This post has been edited by supersound: Feb 16 2014, 11:10 PM

That's why i ask the socket he gave me atm stated cat5e

Is ok, don't worry too much.

if u said so should be ok then

Is the blue color network cables? The Network cables need minimal 6" apart from power points. Hope internally they gab minimal 6" apart.

I dont think so they gap the network cables from the power points, what can i do?

This post has been edited by soR: Feb 17 2014, 09:43 AM

Can't do much already. Cables already in the walls. Just use it, if have lots if packet drop you will have to configure to lower speed, and reduce to half duplex. Usually good network switch will do auto switching when performance or high CRC detected.

Hi

If you have already laid cat6 cable might as well use cat6 keystone/faceplate. the face plate use angle type.
- more ports better than one unless you are going to use a switch.
- use faceplate not just connector. its weird for contractor to recommend it.
- after installation ask contractor to test using cable tester to make sure all 8 wires are working. you might need to use all the 8 wires for poe purpose in future.


As for the performance argued here, you might also need to check the below to get best performance
- connection from faceplate to end device which type of cable used
- end device using 10/100 or gigabit port
- router using 10/100 or gigabit port

The cable used is AMP brand right?
cat6 network cables are twisted pair which is good in noise rejection. Power wire is running 240-250V at 50Hz while network cable's noise generation will be much higher(if any).
Just think this in a logic way, which will be affected first? If you are still worry on this, go to Jalan Pasar and buy some ferrite core.
My company already running with this(power wire and network cable side by side) and never have any problem.
In theory, everything we want to be perfect, but in real life, this won't really happens. Like 10 years ago, my office only have 5 PCs, so laying the cables are easy. But today, I have close to 40 PCs and the room still the same. Because of cost effectiveness sake, the socket has not been changed on end user part since 10 years ago. My IT department said, give us the fastest ports/sockets won't do any good as transfer an 1GB data it still takes time, as limitation will be on the PC.
What you need to worry is, your renovation works.

This post has been edited by supersound: Feb 17 2014, 12:24 PM

Hi is the PoE Splitter buy in pair? their ac power is compatible with other ip camera or need to use back Prolink ip camera?

can PM me the price...thanks

how much was the home plug?
we need to get in sets right?

yes it require a pair to work.

Boss, i need Cat5e Single 2nos and Dual 1 no, how much? Clamping tool have?

Yep i can't do much really , about that (configure to lower speed, and reduce to half duplex) i dont know what this means really, and the network switch i don't think ill be using it. Maybe when there is more PC in the house.

My electrician came and install new faceplate for Cat6
- 1 for each bedroom, only 2 bedroom have data socket

- 2 port faceplate from the living room where the unifi things will be stuffed here.

He going to test when there's electricity is in, waiting on TnB (update to 3-phase tho).
As for the performance i think from faceplate to end device would be Cat6 picture below.

- after installation ask contractor to test using cable tester to make sure all 8 wires are working. you might need to use all the 8 wires for poe purpose in future.

regarding this i dont really understand.

I attach some picture of the cable.

I have seen those ferrite core on some cables before, but don't know the function of it, what does it do?
haha thanks for reminding me of my renovation works just want to make sure that the cable are good and properly installed and useable without any problem, cause i dont want to paid and get things that would give me problems u know ....

This post has been edited by soR: Mar 5 2014, 01:11 AM

Yup, that's AMP cables. Don't worry, the quality are quite good.
Anyway, I found some homeplug products, looks like quite good for normal day to day usage.
As said, transfer data from 1 point to another need time, cable's transfer rate maybe fast, but limitation forever are from our PC.
Given a 100000GBPS cat9 cable for you also no use. Is just like current AV trend, all going for 4K. But does everyone understand what is that? And how many equipment really support it?
Don't fooled by some on the number games. Got money, change all, else just stick with what ever is done.
Like now I'm planning to network my AC Ryan, but after calculate, laying cable are not cost effective at all. Running casings, 60M of cables(rm4/M). At Lowyat, 2 homeplug only rm270 and I no need to headache how to hide the cables.
And I scored a Marantz AV amp SR6007 for rm2300(ZIIP) yesterday, cash rm2299. Since I'm doing ZIIP, I thought want to go 1 level higher, the SR6007 which is rm2999. But the SA tells me that don't waste the money as the difference are 6007 can only do 10W more compare to 5007, rest of the components(power supply) are the same. For AV amps, the power supply are very important.
Ferrite core are mainly for noise rejection, you won't really see the significant difference.

This post has been edited by supersound: Mar 5 2014, 08:10 AM

Sometimes during laying the cables some of the wires might be broken due to force and quality of cable. Lan cable consist of 8 wires in 4 pairs.


So better to check all wires in the cable are working by using simple tester. Contractor should have the basic ones.

The tester only good for connection testing, but for the cable photo you attached is Cat 6, need noise tester that cost few Grand. Sometime the contractor may cut bit of the cables and the basic connector will still detect normal, but with the noise tester it will failed. My last installation of CAT 6 environment the contractor need to redo about 10 points.

Weikee do you mean network cable socket and power socket must be separated by at least 6"? How bout the network and power cable can they be pull parallel together or also must have a 6" gap apart? Is there any compatibility issue between cat 5 & cat 6 cable with homeplug, cctv and other gadget? Some electrician is giving cat 6 with the same pricing as cat 5. Thanks

This post has been edited by quintesson: Mar 6 2014, 12:09 AM

Yeah find that most of people starting to use homeplug, but i dont know if my house is able to used it since it 3-phase

If they got the similar test or noise test like weikee said what reading should it be getting? so when they test i have some rough idea that the test is stable.. so that they cannot kelentong me..

hope they got that kinda tester, cause they haven't do any check up yet..

Also i took some picture after installation of the keystone is that what they call it where the cat6 cable are installed on ..I let u guys judge the work to me its like cincai punya kerja , here..
Living room

notice that i circled in red where the wire not sit properly in those slot...
Bedroom


compare to this i found on the internet very neat

and i read somewhere not to exposed those wire too much, then more noise disturbance happens which can degrade the performance... also found that the keystone doesnt have dust cover..

seems like they dont have a proper tool to do a proper job...

This post has been edited by soR: Mar 6 2014, 03:49 AM

Why not, 3-phase are even better. It will still be 240-250V anyway. As the main grid to our house are only 240-250V.

using homeplug with 3 phases is only possible if the pair of homeplug are on the same phase / live wires.

Not all keystone come with the cover, with or without cover is ok. The installer should clean the edge of the exposed wires, he didn't do a nice finishing job, it won't affect the normal LAN speed 100Mhz (100Mbps / 1Gbps), but going higher which I doubt you will going to do it (10Gbps) may generate noise.

Don't expect the normal cable guys to have a noise tester.

You can consider repeater as well.

Not all 3-phase can be used for HomePlug. Pls consult your wireman on the wiring of your 3-phase.

Look up internet and saw a thing called Punch down tool, do u know where i can find it? is it hard to diy?(tutorial from youtube looks quite straight forward..)

and about the keystone where too i can get it?
and i got leftover cat6 tho i can recycled it, and tho of getting the crimper as well.

huh?

sure will do...

Can always go to Pasar road to find.

Not all keystone compatible with the faceplate, better bring sample before you buy.

Repeater, or wireless extender, just configure your wifi router accordingly and you can extend your wifi coverage... there will be a drop of 50% througput on the repeater but the setup will be easy

Hi

Sorry if this is not the right place to ask. Is the hardware require for the setup below available in Malaysia?



"In the first example you have a switch that supplies POE and are looking to get an IP camera that supports true POE, in this situation you only require a network cable running directly between the switch and the camera. This is because the camera is capable of being powered over the Ethernet itself and the switch supplies POE. (See image below)"

HI, need to consult all sifu. I have 2 home plug at home. One for CCTV and 1 for HypTV. But, ever since install the CCTV home plug, my HypTV always can not play and I need to off the whole modem and start again, then, only can watch HypTV. The TM technician told me 1 house can not have 2 home plugs and the CCTV home plug interfere the HypTV home plug. Is this the reason and how to rectify?

hi. PM price for Indoor/Outdoor Super WiFi Access Point
TQ

Where to find Cat6 Ethernet cables with right angle plugs?

This post has been edited by idoblu: May 25 2015, 09:29 PM

right angle plugs???

Like this
http://www.tripplite.com/shared/product-im...LDN-COMBO-L.jpg

i think this is factory terminated.....haven't seen a crimping tool that do this

Hi PM me price for LAN cat6 per box and do you have faceflat for 3 LAN?

Reverting..

For the PoE Splitter, does it mean that as long as I have an Ethernet jack within 20 meters, I can just plug it in and use it as a power source and an Ethernet source?