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soR
post Jan 8 2014, 08:10 PM

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3 pic what is that for?
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post Feb 9 2014, 11:48 PM

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PM me pricing for

Network Cable - Cat5e/Cat6 (305 meters / per box)
Faceplate - Cat5e Single/Dual, Cat6 Angled Type Single/Dual
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post Feb 15 2014, 11:43 PM

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Guys want to ask my electriction uses cat6 cable but uses cat5e faceplate/socket is it ok?
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post Feb 16 2014, 01:07 AM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Feb 16 2014, 12:27 AM)
Is useless because you won't get cat6 performance.
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that electrician say can one.... cry.gif cry.gif
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post Feb 16 2014, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Feb 16 2014, 12:48 PM)
My reply is very clear, can use cat5e socket but can't get cat6 performance.
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QUOTE(supersound @ Feb 16 2014, 01:11 PM)
My reply also very clear, there's no need to have something that is not needed unless just want to boast around.
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Guys! rclxub.gif rclxub.gif

What should i tell my electrician now? as he already lay cat6 cable what socket/faceplate he SHOULD use?(Cat6/5e?)
Do i need to ask him on testing it or anything?

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one more thing should i get my electrician to install 2-port faceplate over here?
my electrician said he just going to put the head connector there no need socket he said....
(i scared of accidently pulling it can break the cable..)
which is the proper way?
- install 2-port faceplate
- or just connector (electrician way)

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post Feb 16 2014, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Feb 16 2014, 11:09 PM)
Follow what he said on the socket selection, you will only need "true" cat6 socket if you are running a data center server.
As said, your are just home use, no need to be so fast.
On the wall, sure use the socket for better appearance.
Also, if you ask him to put cat6 socket, will you know? I doubt so.
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That's why i ask the socket he gave me atm stated cat5e
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post Feb 17 2014, 12:15 AM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Feb 16 2014, 11:23 PM)
Is ok, don't worry too much.
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if u said so should be ok then
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post Feb 17 2014, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Feb 17 2014, 12:52 AM)
Is the blue color network cables? The Network cables need minimal 6" apart from power points. Hope internally they gab minimal 6" apart.
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I dont think so they gap the network cables from the power points, what can i do?

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post Mar 5 2014, 01:11 AM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Feb 17 2014, 10:20 AM)
Can't do much already. Cables already in the walls. Just use it,  if have lots if packet drop you will have to configure to lower speed, and reduce to half duplex. Usually good network switch will do auto switching when performance or high CRC detected.
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Yep i can't do much really cry.gif , about that (configure to lower speed, and reduce to half duplex) i dont know what this means really, and the network switch i don't think ill be using it. Maybe when there is more PC in the house.

QUOTE(jellybeanz @ Feb 17 2014, 12:11 PM)
Hi

If you have already laid cat6 cable might as well use cat6 keystone/faceplate. the face plate use angle type.
- more ports better than one unless you are going to use a switch.
- use faceplate not just connector. its weird for contractor to recommend it.
- after installation ask contractor to test using cable tester to make sure all 8 wires are working. you might need to use all the 8 wires for poe purpose in future.
As for the performance argued here, you might also need to check the below to get best performance
- connection from faceplate to end device which type of cable used
- end device using 10/100 or gigabit port
- router using 10/100 or gigabit port
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My electrician came and install new faceplate for Cat6
- 1 for each bedroom, only 2 bedroom have data socket
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- 2 port faceplate from the living room where the unifi things will be stuffed here.
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He going to test when there's electricity is in, waiting on TnB (update to 3-phase tho).
As for the performance i think from faceplate to end device would be Cat6 picture below.

- after installation ask contractor to test using cable tester to make sure all 8 wires are working. you might need to use all the 8 wires for poe purpose in future.

regarding this i dont really understand.

QUOTE(supersound @ Feb 17 2014, 12:19 PM)
The cable used is AMP brand right?
cat6 network cables are twisted pair which is good in noise rejection. Power wire is running 240-250V at 50Hz while network cable's noise generation will be much higher(if any).
Just think this in a logic way, which will be affected first? If you are still worry on this, go to Jalan Pasar and buy some ferrite core.
My company already running with this(power wire and network cable side by side) and never have any problem.
In theory, everything we want to be perfect, but in real life, this won't really happens. Like 10 years ago, my office only have 5 PCs, so laying the cables are easy. But today, I have close to 40 PCs and the room still the same. Because of cost effectiveness sake, the socket has not been changed on end user part since 10 years ago. My IT department said, give us the fastest ports/sockets won't do any good as transfer an 1GB data it still takes time, as limitation will be on the PC.
What you need to worry is, your renovation works.
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I attach some picture of the cable.
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I have seen those ferrite core on some cables before, but don't know the function of it, what does it do?
haha thanks for reminding me of my renovation works just want to make sure that the cable are good and properly installed and useable without any problem, cause i dont want to paid and get things that would give me problems u know ....

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post Mar 6 2014, 03:44 AM

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Yeah find that most of people starting to use homeplug, but i dont know if my house is able to used it since it 3-phase

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If they got the similar test or noise test like weikee said what reading should it be getting? so when they test i have some rough idea that the test is stable.. so that they cannot kelentong me..

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hope they got that kinda tester, cause they haven't do any check up yet..

Also i took some picture after installation of the keystone is that what they call it where the cat6 cable are installed on ..I let u guys judge the work to me its like cincai punya kerja rclxub.gif rclxub.gif , here..
Living room
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notice that i circled in red where the wire not sit properly in those slot...
Bedroom
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compare to this i found on the internet very neat
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and i read somewhere not to exposed those wire too much, then more noise disturbance happens which can degrade the performance... rclxub.gif also found that the keystone doesnt have dust cover..

seems like they dont have a proper tool to do a proper job... mad.gif

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post Mar 7 2014, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Mar 6 2014, 09:13 AM)
Not all keystone come with the cover, with or without cover is ok. The installer should clean the edge of the exposed wires, he didn't do a nice finishing job, it won't affect the normal LAN speed 100Mhz (100Mbps / 1Gbps), but going higher which I doubt you will going to do it (10Gbps) may generate noise. 

Don't expect the normal cable guys to have a noise tester.
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Look up internet and saw a thing called Punch down tool, do u know where i can find it? is it hard to diy?(tutorial from youtube looks quite straight forward..)

and about the keystone where too i can get it?
and i got leftover cat6 tho i can recycled it, and tho of getting the crimper as well.

QUOTE(cdspins @ Mar 6 2014, 01:25 PM)
You can consider repeater as well.
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huh?

QUOTE(jellybeanz @ Mar 7 2014, 09:59 AM)
Not all 3-phase can be used for HomePlug. Pls consult your wireman on the wiring of your 3-phase.
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sure will do...

 

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