You may wash your face with warm water.

The sequence for the application is acceptable.

As I have repeatedly saying that the approach of the regimen is to prevent new acne from forming hence enable the skin to heal and rejuvenate by its own.

As time goes by, the scars will dissapear.

Regarding milia, you have to go to beauty salon to extract it out. Cleansing oil might help but cannot eliminate the problem perpetually.

Thank you for the input.

Make up contributes to acne, and inappropriate application of make-up or inappropriate products will worsen the condition.

Acne is within the skin, so I cannot get your saying about the INSIDE thing. Perhaps you can brief me more on the situation.

For make up, please do look for the make up products that are labelled 'NON-COMEDOGENIC'. Some products might contain acne flaring ingredients.

You can use NMCS anytime.

The most flexible moisturizer will be the NMCS as it can be applied in the daytime and nighttime as well. Unlike NMSPF, it can only be used during day time.


Jinyee

No. Its a NONO for Oxy as the percentage of BP in OXY will be too strong for acne skin. People might think that the more BP will compromise the effectiveness towards acne, but this is not true. Acne has to be treated gently and carefully as the bacteria is trapped inside.

Please consider to change the T3 cleanser as well. P.acne bacteria will develop immunity towards tea-tree oil, which means you might see effect in short term. Shall you considering T3 as your long term cleanser, you might face possibility of future flare up.

Please apply generous BP on that area. I believed you have post acne on the same area before which you did not deal with it in the right way at that time. This will worsen the condition should there's future acne on the same spot.

Consider to increase the frequency of application to twice per day to expedite recovery.

The possibility of having big pimples (nodule acne) in forehead is very low. I doubt maybe you are using certain hair products which contribute to the acne. Please double check and keep us updated.

This regimen promotes gently treatment to the skin while enhance the skin's ability to rejuvenate by itself.

You bought the right products. Your skin will peel for the first 2.5 months as it is getting used to BP. Its normal by the way.

Its okie with your implication. You may consider to wash your face with luke warm water in the morning to keep you awake. LOL

BP is to be applied to acne prone area. Please refer to previous posts for more details.

Its fine. Anyway, the main concern is to focus on whether the regimen helps to clear up your acne or not. Don't you think so.


Jinyee

This post has been edited by jinyee80: Oct 23 2007, 09:41 PM

I have been highlighting that you should apply BP acne prone area. Should you have acne all over your face, you should consider to see dermatologist and consume oral medication because it might due to hormon that cause the constant breakout.

I believed you did not browse through the previous posts. BP will help to shed off old skin and prevent skin from having new acne. Due to that, it provides your skin the chance to rejuvenate itself, thereby heal your scar by itself. There aren't instant solution for acne scar, it has to take some time. Unless you go for laser treatment.

Please refer to the above stated comment.

Please do NOT add in any other product line which is not recommended. You do not want to risk your skin just because of some advertisements.

As I have mentioned on the 1st page that its optional for moisturizer.

You can use both moisturizer concurrently but the result might be enhanced or might be other way round. Its your own decision.

Stop Cetaphil lotion, perhaps you can go for NMCS. Diet doesn't contribute directly to acne.

Apply generous BP to heal whitehead.

Thank you for the information!

I think one of the forumers did raise this question before. Not ALL alcohols are bad, some has moisturizing purpose. The alcohol that you need to prevent is SD ALCOHOL. Please wiki for more information.

You will see Sodium Lauryl Sulphate(SLS) in most cleansers and shampoos nowadays . It cleanses the skin effectively. Dermalogica and other high end brands may claim this is not a good ingredient which they choose to use other in order to convince you to pay more. It really depends on the percentage of the solution used.

Do you still drive when there are accidents happened everyday? I am, but I am driving carefully.

This post has been edited by jinyee80: Nov 1 2007, 07:33 AM

Please further elaborate. I do not get what you are trying to say.

There are lots of medications, ranges from the over-the-counter to oral. Accutane has the most side effect. Please google around for more info.

It depends on the percentage of the particular ingredient. SD Alcohol acts as antiseptic but if the amount is large, then it might dry out the skin, encouraging the skin to discrete more sebum which will eventually leads to the formation of acne.

Please follow the regimen as stated in the first post. Do not use any NYSS products anymore because by using other products concurrently, I can't really give you further comments in the future as I do not really have the knowledge on their products.

Diet has minimal effect on acne. Follow the regimen closely and you should see the result in 2.5 months time. Baby powder with talc tends to clog pores. Its ok to have oily skin, Simon Yam did has oily skin but to have oily yet acne-free skin is the most crucial part.

Try this regimen as the ultimate purpose is to encourage the skin to heal by itself.

p/s: by using other products concurrently, you might or might not achieve result.

I shall ask the respective company. Please do stock more in this case.

Please do not use any other acne product while you are on roaccutane.

Not all raised scar is called keloid. You can try salicylic acid or acid peel for raised scar.



Jinyee

You may use NMCS, it will be able to moisturize your face.

Perhaps its not acne since you said there's no bump. It might potentially be rashes or sunburn.

For your information, nodule acne appears due to sensitivity or irritation towards certain products. It maybe the detergent that you use or it might be the shower foam that you use. There are so many reasons contribute to that, so perhaps you should look into the right cause of the problem. It should not be there for that long time,as I just afraid it might mutate to other thing - potentially cancer.

Its another OEM saloon product. You can have a try if you want to!

Do you sleep on your right face which cause the BP to be swept away. Excessive heat and sweat will accelerate the P.acne growth.

If you have been on roaccutane for half year, you should have decreased acne, rather that subsequent problems.

Unluckily, you develop sensitivity towards roaacutane and at the 1st place, you should have stop roaccutane once you discovered the problem but not 6 months later.

Its rather hard to deal with sensitive skin due to roaccutane, because roaccutane has internally change your body system. You might have sensitive skin for a couple of months, or maybe longer.

Diet contributes indirect effect to acne.

Your dermatologist really sucks because if I was her, I should have closely monitor my patient.

Stock up time!

Its impossible to have dry skin with oily problem. Please further elaborate.

You may read through the 1st post before you post up here. The available info should be able to assist you.

It may be rashes. Is there an opening?

Do not try glycolic acid(AHA) as it might irritate fragile skin. You may either go for lactic acid (PHA) with lower concentration. You should never let the skin to tolerate the higher concentration version for the 1st time.


Jinyee
Moisturizer is to be applied on the whole face.

This post has been edited by jinyee80: Nov 18 2007, 12:51 AM

Actually, there are 3 types of skin, its either oily, dry or combination.

Some forumers claimed that have dry skin but yet it shines. The reason why it was because they are using the inappropriate product. Some might have oily skin intially, and by using too much soap-based product which accelerate the secretion of sebum that cause SUPER oily skin.

Whilst some who have dry skin, tends to look shiny because you are using the wrong products as well. The product that you suppose to use is to moisturize your skin but not to dry it out which force the skin to come out with more sebum to protect itself. You end up looks shinier than anyone else.

Choosing appropriate product is essential.


Jinyee

Its not the same. Please do only get the GENTLE version.

Note, its Cetaphil gentle cleanser. Yup, you should cleanse your face 1st before you go for panoxyl.

Moisturizer is to be leave-on your skin, you do not have to wash it away.

Because your skin has get used to the conventional cleanser, which more towards the alkaline pH. Cetaphil is more towards pH neutral.

Anyhow, if you still feel not good towards the peeling effect, you may switch to Liquid neutrogena since neutrogena one is more alkaline.

Can provide more info about your regimen? Such as products that you used..

When acne keep on popping out below the cheek, meaning that you have sensitivity towards either Panoxyl or Cetaphil. I suspect it might be BP 1st, what you need to do now is to use BP once per 2 days.

Besides following the regimen, you shall also take note any other hair products that will accidentally cover your forehead which leads to the forehead out break.



Jinyee

It might be the so-called UNKNOWN conditioner. But, I presume that the leave on conditioner cause the most problem because eventually, you may accidentally cover your forehead. Sometimes, the residual of the products may 'travel' with your sweat.

Please do select appropriate hair products. I do not have any recommendation at the moment.

Can, but stick to the fragrance free version. Its ok to use together with BP.

No, I did not at the moment. I am actually dealing with the wholesaler whether they can offer special discount to us or not. I understand that Cetaphil still costs a bomb to some personnel. My goal is to come out with a really affordable regimen.

It really does not matter which acne products that you use as long as it contains the key ingredient, which is BP. However, 2.5% of BP is highly recommended as it will not overdry fragile skin.

Your skin can tolerate 5% BP, but the higher the percentage does not correlate with the effectiveness. Some might come with adverse effect such as irritation.

Thats why before you risk your whole face, try it on small patch.

You can go for the combination skin one if you do not have really sensitive skin. I realised that a lots of Penang Island forumers are finding it hard to obtain the supply. Will try to work out some solution. Maybe can ship to you guys! lol

Apply generous BP and smear it evenly. It will dissapear within 3-4 days.

You are not the only one got 'CON' by the beauty saloon. Wasting innocent money~haizz...

This post has been edited by jinyee80: Dec 4 2007, 11:03 PM

Its not ok to use. You can bring back and change it with the original receipt within a given period of time.

Recently I am very busy with my job but still visit the forum once for a while to get latest updates. I did read the feedbacks and advises from other forumers.

Anyhow, just like one of the respondents of this thread said that I am not a beautician nor a dermatologist, thereby my advise and recommendation in this forum might not seems to be solid and compromising. My apology on that because apparently not everyone will see satisfactory outcome after following the regimen. When you are okie, people will definately thank you, but what if its the other way round?

I am sceptical in giving further comments as I really afraid my further advise might worsen your condition. Till I saw reikabecky's feedbacks questioning my reply, I think it is time for me to come out to clarify with the others regarding this issue.

At first, I would like to clarify that I am not a qualified beauticians nor specialists. I am also an acne sufferer years ago but eventually once I engaged with such regimen, everything is under controlled. My purpose to setup this thread, apparently is to encourage other acne sufferers to share their experiences over here. Rather than spending big bucks in beauty saloon which the outcome is not compromising, I think we need to find a way out, at least a more affordable way.

One thing I need to emphasize is that one that follow the recommended regimen may face its own risk because the skin types and conditions vary from one another. But the main idea that was implemented in this thread is to be mild to the skin and counter the problem directly. There were lots of reasons contribute to acne but the most contributing problem is irritation from skin products. Hormone is also one of the factor.

I reckon those who are still facing the problem persistently to pay the dermatologist a visit. Though I always emphasize on the word - PATIENT, but it might worsen the problem. It may or may not.

I wish all the best to those who see significant results after using the regimen and apology to those who did not see results from that.

Probably its time for me to stop giving non-constructive and unprofessional advice.

Thank you.



Jinyee

Okie, just my 2 cents.

When it comes to alcohol, you have to clarify whether what kind of alcohol it will be. Obviously when it was listed in the ingredient list as the 2nd key ingredients, the possibility for it to be SD alcohol will be high. Not every alcohol will dry out the skin, but in this case, SD alcohol will. It strips off the outer horny layer of epidermis hence encouraging the dermis to excrete more sebum as for natural skin protection. In the end, you might get shiny skin.

Its advisable that one with skin problem do not use skincare products with excessive SD alcohol since problem skin's are sensitive. Others ingredients for the toner are fine, we have caster oil, green tea extract and of course not to miss out butylene glycol that will create a very smooth effect on your skin after the SD alcohol dry off.

As for the mask, glycerin is a meant to soak up excessive sebum which is good in the case. Others properties were standard. You have pantenol and other botanical extracts.

The fundamental belief on skincare does not really fall on how good or how expensive of that particular products that you use. I highly believe not everyone afford slight expensive product though you might risk your skin by using cheap and redundant products. Treat it gently and mild is always my key point.

Apparently there are always good and bad comments on certain products because skin varies from one to another. Think and act wisely before you proceed for further regimen or treatment.

Dermalogica is a well known brand. Perhaps the respondent could try to perform the skin mapping at dermalogica for further consultation.



Jinyee

This post has been edited by jinyee80: Jan 14 2008, 09:56 PM

Please quote me the ingredients for further comments. OR you may compare the ingredients with the Cetaphil Gentle Cleanser's ingredient. If everything is the same then probably you can go ahead because different country has different packaging.



Jinyee

You might see the variants for Panoxyl in Guardian. They have the 2.5%, 5% and the 10% version. Please always go for the 2.5% one as it will treat the skin gently while healing the acne. The higher the percentage of Benzoyl Peroxide(BP) will definately accelerate the healing process but bear in mind that it may irritate the tendency of the skin towards BP. You might end up having more acne.

Thus, please take note. Always go for the 2.5% version.

Can you provide the key ingredients for acnacare, perhaps this could be alternative to other forumers?

Research has yet to shown positive co-relationship between food and acne. Nonetheless, its advisable that one's diet should be balance not only to avoid acne but also to promote healthy lifestyle.

In fact, I have come across some articles claiming iodine will slower the healing process of acne. The rationale is still in doubt. Thus, its advisable that you take less iodine food such as seafoods.

Just came back from UK. Anyway, perhaps as what you have said, by consumin excessive protein will encourage the oversecretion of sebum which when expose to dirt and bacteria will resulting the formation of acne.

Its normal to have the tight feeling initially. It will goes off once your skin has develop the tendency towards it. Don't worry.

If cheese does promote acne, those european should be having lots of acne sufferers. LOL

Oxy 5% is too strong for this regimen, which I afraid will irritate your skin. Please go around to search for Panxoyl 2.5%, you will find it, otherwise you can seek help from other forumers. At the mean time, please exclude ginvera spot gel and the vit E oil as they are not proven to work and complement each another.

Please buy it at vitacare. I aware that they are currently having promotion. Midvalley's vitacare is just opposite to carrefour.

I really don't think its a good idea. Please exclude items that are not listed in 1st page, otherwise the result might not be compromising.

Your skin has yet to develop tendency towards Benzoyl Peroxide. Please start with 1 application per 2 nights, and after 2-3 weeks time, apply it every single night upon looking to previous reaction.

Anyway will do, as long as Cetaphil is applied to your face.


I really need someone to help me in consolidating all the FAQ and compile it together. If you are awared of that within certain period, I don't even have time to post reply to forumers' questions as I was in UK. Anyway, thanks for the suggestion! Noted.

This post has been edited by jinyee80: Jul 13 2008, 03:26 AM

Dan's recommendation is not suitable to us because we have hot and humid atmosphere throughout the year. I reckon you do not also want to have shiny skin on the daytime right?

Stick to 2.5%, never go more than that.

Please update us on your usage status. Sharing info is necessary to combat acne.

Toner will go 1st, then moisturizer. Please google around for the definition.

Please be mindful, only go for 2.5%.

Most of the ingredients are acceptable. Nonetheless, they did not list out the proportionate degree, thus unable me to further comment whether its workable or not.

Anyway, by all mean, you can use the products if it does help you to heal your acne.

As I am aware off was Shiseido has stopped TISS 2 years ago, are they coming back into the market again since you have mentioned it?

It depends. You can wet or don't wet. Most probably I will recommend forumers to wet first as the cleanser will be able to glide through your face easily and will only require a marginal amount.

The yellow bottle one.

Simple is a product line that promote fragrance-free and soap-free ingredients. It will be fine if your skin is suitable on the product. First of all, the gist of to combat acne will be a combination of mild cleansing and effective Over-The-Counter attack by using Benzoyl Peroxide.

By using toner and BP simultaneously will not be a good idea as I have come across some of simple's toner that contains SD-alcohol.

Please provide ingredients for further comments.

Occasionally acne is unavoidable mainly due to increased hormone level(during period), stress and etcetera. Stick on the same philosophy, mild cleansing and effective OTC will help to maintain problem free skin.

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Added on August 10, 2008, 10:04 amBack and front body acne is mainly due to excessive secretion of sebum and mixture of bacteria. Please use antibacterial body shower if possible to minimize the problem. For instance, you can go for Shokubutsu's antibacterial body shower.

This post has been edited by jinyee80: Aug 10 2008, 10:04 AM