Thank you for your input but I don't think dettol soap is an appropriate product to be used on the face area. It is overdrying and may irritate fragile skin though it is antiseptic.

Please apply only on acne prone area. You should consistently apply BP on acne prone area to avoid next flare up. You should not apply on all area, if you do so, you need at least 4 tubes of BP per month! LOL

My advice is, just follow the regimen. Use mild cleanser - CETAPHIL and BP. That's it. 2 steps then you are on the go. Yet the products are affordable.

Consistently and patient are important for maintaining the suppleness of your skin. It helps in preventing acne as well.

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1. Please stop ALL skinfood products. I do not really think their products are GREAT though it claims most of the products are made from natural ingredients. Believe me, check the ingredient and you might find paraben on it, its a kind of preservative. STOP ALL theire product and ONLY stick to CETAPHIL and PANOXYL.

2. Nope, not recommended. But you can either swap it with Neutrogena moisturizer or Cetaphil moisturizer.

3. Clean & Clear products sucks. It did not work charm. The best counter solution for acne is BP with the combination of mild cleanser. The success rate is higher than anything.

4. Yes, you can. Smear it evenly on your nose.

P/S: patient is the key. You should be able to see at least significant result within 2.5months. Keep me up to date on your condition.



Jinyee

You can either get Neutrogena Oil-Free Moisture for Sensitive Skin or Cetaphil Moisturizing Lotion. Both are good products and very light.

Exactly, no SALOON because it will worsen the whole agenda.

1. Cellnique is NOT as good as Cetaphil. A lots of brand intends to incorporate certain so-called moisturizing properties into their products which cause the negative outcome when too many comes together. Unlike that, Cetaphil is easy and mild. My advice : Throw away Cellnique.

2. Ingredients, there are a lot but the MOST irritating ingredient would be the FRAGRANCE. Because we will not know what kind of fragrance they used because the wording is too general. I think for the mean time, you should avoid fragrance products, thats why even those who prefer liquid neutrogena as their cleanser, I will still insist them to use the fragrance-free version.

3. Have a little acne during my puberty time. My mum is a dermatologist and currently she is working in UK. I am a banker actually, helping my mum to do thesis about acne. So, it was so natural for me to come across those chemical stuffs. I shall need to get some interested publisher to help me out. So, whoever know any publisher, please refer to me. . Anyhow, I would want to have a meeting with the local sole distributor for Cetaphil and check whether they can sell it in cheaper price or not to me should we purchase in bulk. Then, we shall distribute to interested forumers.

4. The regimen suits mild to severe acne sufferers because it counter on the same problem, I mean the root of the problem. After so many years to doing research, even my mum said nothing works other than mild and gentle stuff compared to the most advanced or expensive products.

Thank you for your accutance input. I shall try to make appointment with Cetaphil distributor to see whether I could get cheaper price or not.

Are you using Cetaphil as well?

Patient is the key. Have a good start!

Thank you for your input again. The purpose of this thread is to share experiences!

Few months =?months. I shall need to know whether did you subsequently consume any medication?

If the answer is no, you shall add in moisturizer if you are frequently expose to air-conditioned environment.

Please do let me know how many times do you use Cetaphil and BP per day. I need these basic info before I started to comment as well.



Jinyee

Ok. Theoritically you should not encounter any acne should you are on the midst of consuming Accutane. Therefore, I suspected the problem is either the hair products or sunblock. But, higher possibility goes to hair products. Because most of them contain wax and other materials that might irritate fragile skin. You should not use the product anymore.

I recommend you to cleanse your face and apply thin layer of kaolin on your face for soothing the so-called - itchiness = inflammation? . You can get calamine lotion for this purpose. As soon as the problem is solved, discontinue the usage of calamine.

What I wanted to highlight is not paraben, but its actually the skinfoods products. Ok, fine, if a manufacturer said its products are derived from 100% natural ingredients, then you should have suspected that how could they preserve the so-called NATURAL ingredients for long time. Its no harm using chemical products as long as its not in excessive amount. None of the ingredient in Cetaphil is derived from natural properties but yet its highly recommended.

Actually you should avoid these ingredients - paraben, sodium lauryl sulfate and etc because you would not know how many percentage or quantity of the ingredients are used to form that cleanser or lotion. Excessive amount will create adverse outcome. But, for Cetaphil, its proven that the success rate is high compared to others. Thereby, it really depends on the quantity that are used.

Perhaps I have to recheck in which post I said that and rephrase it. Thanks for reminding!
Please help me to see which college need lecturer. lol

Can you assure that after you press or clear it, the acne would not come? The answer is NO because how could you identify P.acne bacteria with your naked eye. BP will be able to clear the P.acne and by applying the acne prone area consistently, you are disallowing the P.acne to create potential trouble hence you avoid getting new acne.

As I always said, in the preliminary stage, you might have adverse result. But patient is the key. You should see significant improvement after 2.5months, at least changes in your skin texture. Please note that ONLY apply BP once per two nights for the 1st week or so on. After your skin can get used to BP, then you can apply once per night.

Also note, cleanse your face with Cetaphil at MOST twice per day. Gently massage the skin to ease out dirt and sebum. Normally for early stage, once per day for Cetaphil is sufficient already. You can wash your face with plain water whenever you like in between.



Jinyee

Only use Neutrogena oil-free SPF15. Others please put it aside because though it might come from various brand but the result is yet to be proven successfully.

It will generally take up at least 1 year to clear up acne. What I mean clear up is you maintained problem-free skin.

You might have occasional acne, its normal. No worries about it.

You can use Bobbi Brown liquid foundation.

The fundamental idea of this regimen is to cleanse your skin mildly, counter the acne problem and let the skin to rejuvanate by its own. So, you must always make sure that your complexion is well maintained, therefore your skin will heal by itself rather than come to a situation that while you are treating the old scars, new acnes pop out.

Anything with fragrance are not that advisable. You may try Neutrogena range or Cetaphil. Other brands, please post up the product name to seek for advice.

No problem. Really happy and delighted when more and more people told me that the regimen works ( though some's claimed the results are not so encouragable ).

I shall keep on doing research. One thing is there is no way to get rid of acne, you can only keep on preventing it.

Patient is the key word!

Again, it is advisable that you use Cetaphil and other recommended items. Its up to forumers to choose whatever they think its suitable.

The whole regimen will work best when every items are in place.

Which kind of mask you prefer? The peel-off or the apply one?



Regards,
Jinyee

I do not really recommend other moisturizer besides neutrogena, QV and Cetaphil.

If his skin is not acne prone, then you may exclude BP out from the regimen. Its ok, no worries.

No problem! Keep us up to date on your condition.

You can kick in a moisturizer as it will keep your skin supple. For the mean time, stay put on the regimen. No scrub and mask to be recommended. Well done!

I do not see significant link between diet with acne. But, excessive iodine will cause you acne. Foods that contain a lots f iodine are kelps, shrimps and other sea foods. Do some google research around.

Blackhead is preliminary stage for acne. Stay on the regimen and as time goes on, your skin will be able to prevent itself from blackheads.

Therefore, as long as you have acne, just apply BP. It will help!

Yup, Maybeline liquid foundation is not bad. Bare in mind that, do not overcover your acne with make up, otherwise it will worsen off the condition. A thin layer of BP first before the make up goes in.

Use BP once per 2 nights for the 1-2 week. Your skin will need to adapt to BP. It normal to peel as some might develop sensitivity against BP. BP has the ability to shed off old skin and reveal new skin layer.

You can get cleansing oil, you can get the pure & mild one. SPF I would recommend Neutrogena SPF15.

You should consistenly using acne on acne prone to avoid future break out. For the mean time, keep on using.

Only use the gentle cleanser. Please do not swap to another as it might not work well with the regimen.

No toner is required in this regimen. Please exclude. It will be overdrying as toner contains excessive alcohol.

You can either use neutrogena and cetaphil moisturizer.

Nope. To me, its not required. Apply the same thin layer. You have to be patient to get your skin to adapt to BP. Keep on the good work!



Regards,
Jinyee

Yes, you could as BP will shed off old skin tissue progressively. But, please do sensitivity test before you proceed.

Nope, the regimen should go on in this way. Cetaphil cleanser -> BP -> moisturizer. You should apply BP once per two nights in the first 1-2 weeks. You should wait for the BP to dry off first before you apply the moisturizer. I believe you don't want to mess up your face with BP and moisturizer at the same time right?

You can moisturize yourself as you like but make sure in the day time, a thin layer will do.

Thank you for sharing!

Well done!

You should continue BP in order to prevent future break out. I would advise you to use BP for a year and see whether there is still occasional break out or not. If the situation is stablize, you may stop BP while continuing Cetaphil only.

Black spots is due to post inflammantory hyperpigmentation which is the outcome of inappropriate dealing with previous acne. You might consider this regimen and as I have highlighted repeatedly, let your skin to do the work. It will rejuvenate by itself. Apply BP on black spots area and acne prone area. It will definately help.
Some might not see effect so soon with accutane but normally you should be able to see the outcome very very soon. Perhaps you should do blood test before you continue the consumption again because minority individuals might develop sensitivity towards accutane.

Please get advise from your dermatologist ASAP!

I cannot say there is a direct link between your health and acne but definately not-so-good health will affect other problems as well, not only acne.

Perhaps you should revise your diet. Drink more water and consume less oily stuff. Engage yourself to the regimen if you are ready to do so. It will help to build up better skin texture.


Your skin is somehow sensitive to moisturizer. You should apply only a thin layer. Please keep me up to date. If the problem still persist, you should temporary stop moisturizer.

So, just follow your time, it doesn't affect much.

Apply BP once per 2 nights. Your skin should be able to build up the tolerance to BP after 1-2weeks ( some might need longer time ). Please be patient as various people various skin condition.

Since long timr ago ,I have gone through the website and have discussion with Dan Kern all these while about his sharing and experiences regarding acne. His regimen is informative but bear in mind that his regimen might be only applicable to western countries which he recommended BP to be applied in GENEROUS amount, but in Malaysia, we have hot temperature and it is somehow unsuitable. Nevertheless, it still serve as a reference to us.

By the way, thank you for sharing!

Yup, you will need to give your skin some time to get adapt to BP.

Keep us up to date on your condition.

Hair products may clog up pores which will lead to acne. Please read through the ingredients before you use it.
Nope, please do NOT use any other products besides recommended one. I cannot give further advice should you use other alternatives.

Its pus. Inflammation is the word. Firstly, you must cleanse the skin with mild cleanser and then, apply generous amount of BP on it. Please do wipe up the pus when it surfaced before the application of BP.

BP will dry the pus out. No worries. Consistent application will prevent this situation to persist.

You could do both. But, I reckon that you wet your face first, then cetaphil. Then rinse off.

Consistency is very important in this regimen. You should follow the regimen and it will prevent yourself from acne.

To those who prefer creamy version, Neutrogena is the one; whilst to those who prefer lite edition, Cetaphil is the one.
You could apply a thin layer of moisturizer on the area first, then follow by the foundation.

Nope. Only Cetaphil is recommended.

Please provide your location for assistance.

Sensitivity test can be done in the way that you may apply small amount of BP on your jaw area.

Please update us with your progress. Great to know that it benefited you!

Put all the blablabla products aside and start this regimen with the recommended products ASAP. The result will speak out by its own and its meant for cost-saving.

Please do not over-listen to those auntie that don't really understand the mechanism how acne was formed. Its not only dirt and oil.

You should follow the regimen for a substantial time because acne cannot be cured, it can only be prevented.

Apply a thin layer of BP to your skin. Dan's application method is meant for those who stay in chilled countries, which to use a generous amount will really make your face melt when your sweat.

Clear your acne first before we talk about how to get rid of your dark spots.

To acne prone places. Please refer to previous replies.



Regards,
Jinyee

As per said, no toning is required in this regimen.

As per said as well, cleansing I highly recommend Cetaphil while Moisturizer I recommend either Neutrogena or Cetaphil.

There is no way to heal scar immediately as its damaged tissues. I have emphasized several time that by using this regimen, you will enable the skin to rejuvenate by itself as our skin has its own ability to heal by its own.

How many weeks have you been ongoing with this regimen? Roaccutane's side effect is massive and if I were you, I might have to think twice before taking that medication.

Remain clear and prevent acne will enable your skin to heal by itself. Excessive or additional skin products might worsen the condition.

Its normal to have the burning sensation for the 1-2 weeks. NO other additional skin products are to be used concurrently to avoid the effectiveness of the regimen.

No, Loreal white perfect is not suitable for acne.

It works but it did not counter the problem as P.acne bacteria will develop immunity towards the medication. Thats the reason why I did not recommend Salicylic Acid but Benzoyl Peroxide.
QV lotion is okie. Apply Panoxyl first and let it dry before you proceed with QV lotion. PLEASE, do only use moisturizer when you are in air-conditioned room, otherwise it is not compulsory and necessary.

No, vaseline is too greasy to act as moisturizer. You will end up like a bulb!!!

Clean & Clear products sucks. It did not work as the cleanser contains triclosan. Triclosan has antiseptic effect but the bacteria will again develop tendency to it in long term.

Please do update us with your condition.

Thats right, you can get the whole range of products for this regimen by just visiting Midvalley!

Consistent facial visits are good but the problem we have in Malaysia is that some of the saloon beauticians did not even know what are they doing, unless you go to dermalogica and etc. These anonymous beauticians will screw up your face by just squeezing here and there. After that you will have to buy this and that.

I have come across Dan's regimen for long long time and we often discuss topics related to acne very often. However, I have modify certain properties inside the regimen as Dan's regimen is more suitable for those who stay in chilled countries.

Cetaphil did not strip off your outer sebum which actually protect your face and avoid it from skin diseases. I understand some people are used to those kind of 'CLEAN' and 'TIGHT' feeling after they washed their face. Please stay calm as this is normal when you used Cetaphil, you would not have the so-called 'CLEAN' feeling but it does work. Please be patient!

Combination of Cetaphil and Panoxyl works charmly!

Any penang members? Please assist!

Please stop moisturizer and continue with Cetahil and Panoxyl only.

I recommend cleansing oil in this way to get rid of blackhead. Shiseido has stopped TISS oil, therefore you may seek for alternative - Pure and Mild cleansing oil.

Note that toner is not recommended in this regimen as the excessive alcohol will strip off essential natural skin barrier.

No, the name should be Neutrogena Oil-free moisture. Its a normal moisturizer without any counter-acne ingredient inside as we have implemented Benzoyl peroxide. Please note that 2 various active ingredients should not be used together as it might cause unwanted chemical effect.

For sunblock you can go for Neutrogena Moisture SPF15. For removal, don't really have something to recommend to you at the moment.

For the big bump, please do cleanse gently and generously apply BP on it. The bump will dry out in 3-4 days. Please do not even try to pop it, PLEASE!

Nodule acne may caused by sensitivity towards certain skin products. I have feedback from 3 forumers that were using this same regimen that in the 1st to 3rd weeks, they encounter more than 1 nodule acne on their face. However, I insisted them to continue the regimen and finally on the 5th weeks, the result seems to improve and now they have great skin. They even share with me their photos.

Why? Because acne has the cycle of 28 days, which you have just started the regimen 2 weeks ago and that means, before you have even start this regimen, the acne was there already before it surfaced.

People tends to get used to the lather feeling caused by conventional cleanser. Cetaphil did not lather and beginner really feel that it will never enough to cleanse my face.

Please keep us updated with your result. Well done!

The fundamental thing is that the regimen prepared the skin to behave like the way it should be. If your skin is oily skin, doesn't mean that it is bad. Oily skin owner tend to age later compared to those who has dry skin.

What you need to do is to search for make up that has oil-soaking properties, such as cyclomethicone ( if I did not spell it wrongly ). This is a kind of silicone that will help to soak up excessive sebum oil.

Yes. As I have stated up there. Acne has a 28 days cycle. Follow the regimen closely. You can get Cetaphil gentle bar for him to cleanse the body( please refer to 1st post).

Yup, its blackhead. Please follow the regimen closely. Apply BP on it and the problem will be solved soon.


No. Different people will see result in various timeframe. Please stay on and be patient. PATIENT is always the key word. The regimen can be used on chest as well. But, bare in mind, BP will bleach your clothes!

You can use pure and mild once in a week.


Go to Midvalley one.

Some people might develop sensitivity towards BP. Thats the reason I have been emphazing to people that only apply BP once per 2 nights to let the skin to build up the tendency towards BP.

If you have sunburn, you should not apply BP on the area, but instead apply thin layer of moisturizer. Wait until that place's skin to heal 1st before you continue with BP.

Your skin will develop tendency towards BP. Though it might cause dryness initially but BP is really a good medication which counter acne problem.

Once you gently cleansed your skin, it will work by itself. The skin will eliminate blackhead by itself, so thats no need for you to purposely apply this and that.

Reddish is normal.

Please do not apply BP to sensitive area such as eye area and etc.

You just need a thin layer of moisturizer. Its sufficient. Apply thicker layer if you have highly exposed to air-conditioned area.



Jinyee

Yup, self consciousness is very important. I think so far BP is the best over-the-counter acne medication compared to its closest rival salicylic acid.

You know why you always feel your skin is oily? Its because Cetaphil did not lather. You will not have the so called 'clean' and 'tightness' feeling after the cleansing job.

Please remain on the regimen because this is how it works. Cleanse twice per day is more than enough. Alternatively, if you would like to cleanse your face in noon time, you can cleanse it with plain water, as long as Cetaphil is not involved.

A thin layer of moisturizer is sufficient. Its very subjective, if your skin feel tight after applying BP in air-cond, then you should go for moisturizer, otherwise if everything is normal, you may exclude it.


Its a norm that you will get worsen condition the 1st to 3rd week when you are on medication. The itchiness is due to overdryness on your skin.

You may also use this regimen while you are on roaccutane.

Patient is always the key word! Besides, you have to be consistent!

You can get it at guardian. I confirm they have it. Remember to get the 2.5% version one!

As stated in one of the posts, I have checked with Johnson & Johnson (M) ( sole distributor for Neutrogena products locally ) early 2007 and was informed that J&J has decided to stop to bring in NOTS. The reason is because they found out the sales was not encouraging. I have managed to talk to a more senior management stuff saying that this was probably the consumer is less exposed to NOTS and the capability of Benzoyl Peroxide.

Moreover, talking about acne, the first medication in one's perception will be OXY. No advertisements were done for NOTS therefore lead to less publicity which ends up with low turnover.

Anyhow, you may swap it with Panoxyl as I discovered it is also suitable for this regimen. Same 2.5% of BP which will not overdry the skin.


Jinyee

Please take note that if you really FOUND NOTS, I believed the expiry date is very soon already. Due to the scarcity, we switch to Panoxyl. Both works wonderfully, just that NOTS is in lotion form, whilst Panoxyl is in gel form. Gel form will enable you to smear to cover wider area.

To be consistent, go for Panoxyl as it will be easily obtained in future.

Well done. Please keep us up-to-date on your condition.

Better grab Cetaphil gentle cleanser when its on promotion. I have forumer over here having sensitivity ( I suspect ) over Cetaphil moisturizer. I am now thinking of doing a small group sample whether it is true or not. For the mean time, you can get neutrogena moisturizer as its widely accepted and result proven.

Lotion suits people who has oily to combination skin whilst cream is recommended to those with dry skin.

I am happy to share good products and help forumers. Btw, I have no advertisement fee paid by Cetaphil nor Panoxyl. LOL.

You can exclude the moisturizer, its not compulsory btw.

You are so right. BRAVO

Nope. Use Cetaphil to cleanse your face and subsequently followed by moisturizer. I dun really want to add in Panoxyl as I think at this moment it might potentially dry out your skin. ( especially when you are on roaccutane, your skin will become delicate)

I have not heard the moisturizer before. You mind to provide the ingredient for further comments?

Some people will not develop sensitivity towards BP. You are lucky, just a little bit itchy. The itchiness will be gone very soon.



Regards,
Jinyee

Cleanser = Liquid Neutrogena ( Fragrance Free )
Moisturizer = Neutrogena oil-free moisturizer for combination skin/SPF15/sensitive skin
BP = NA


As I have highlighted repeatedly in previous posts that the purpose of the regimen is not only to counter your current acne problem but also to maintain the suppleness of your skin. Therefore, your skin will be able to work on its own to rejuvenate and repair itself. The post inflammantory hyperpigmentation will fade as time goes by ( provided you do not have new acne formed )


Jinyee

Please google around for the sideeffect for vitamin A. The most obvious outcome is that it will definately dry out your skin.

As I have highlighted earlier that patient is the key of success in this regimen. Acne has the cycle of 28 days. Please let me know how long you have been using this regimen, then I shall comment on it.

I have spotted a quite good and affordable item on Watson's shelves yesterday, its the ZA cleansing oil. Since both TISS and ZA are owned by SHISEIDO, I believed the formula should be around the same. Perhaps you can have a try on cleansing oil on the whitehead area. Please let me know where's the bump area? forehead? If its forehead, I also doubt maybe its due to the hairproducts that you used.

You can apply thin layer of foundation to temporaily cover up the spot since you said its very soon.

P/S: Okay I am not invited to the wedding. FINE!

Cetaphil moisturizer may not suits everyone. Forumers are not obligate to add in the moisturizer if they are not exposed to air-cond condition for long period.

Please exclude the moisturizer. However, maintain the cleanser and apply generous panoxyl on the nodule acne. It will be eliminated within a week time. Please do it day and night.

Don' worry, panoxyl will dry out the pus inside. As BP will release oxygen into the clogged pores, the anaerobic acne bacteria will be eliminated thereby will dry out soon.

Please refer to the above post on Cetaphil moisturizer.

Please swap with Neutrogena moisturizer as its more widely accepted. I am going to update the first page of the thread with neutrogena moisturizer's photos. Please have a look soon.

Please refer to the above post.

Please get it at Midvalley or Vitacare.

I think you may get a Neutrogena moisturizer in this case.

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Added on October 13, 2007, 10:50 amUpdated 1st page with Neutrogena moisturizer range.


Jinyee
13/10/2007

This post has been edited by jinyee80: Oct 13 2007, 10:50 AM

Correct! So smart.

Great. Please keep us up to date.