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post Dec 28 2013, 02:02 PM, updated 2 years ago


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Any people got heard about this company named Boss venture??

Please do share if you guys have information about this....

I hardly can find real info on the web thanks notworthy.gif
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post Dec 28 2013, 02:14 PM


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Yup I went before the presentation at their hq. It's big in Indonesia and hk.
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Yup I went before the presentation at their hq. It's big in Indonesia and hk.
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what is it all about?
my friend joined but he hardly can explain the detail
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BossVenture is a business based on e-commerce platform.To put it in simple, this affiliate program is run through promoting/marketing products through the internet. You earn commission when someone buy product through you unique affiliate link.

Having said that, it's actually a MLM because is channel incentive to all the Licensee Re-seller if a sales is closed. Even though the company that runs and monitor BossVenture.com (Cash Deal Sdn Bhd) is register under Suruhanjaya Syarikat Malaysia (SSM) and acquired certification from MDeC as a MSC status company, and used BILL OF GUARANTEES.

Under ' BILL OF GUARANTEES , the government will not implement INTERNET CENSORSHIP. So any company under the status MSC is allowed to accept, process, and send data without any disturbance.

Bill of Guarantee No. 4: To give the freedom to source capital globally for MSC Malaysia infrastructure, and the right to borrow funds globally

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1)Flexibility to Source Capital and Funds Globally.
Under this BoG, MSC Malaysia Status companies are free to source capital globally, unless otherwise stated in the Anti-Money Laundering and Anti-Terrorism Financing Act 2001, or from residents, authorities, agencies or entities of countries specified in the Exchange Control Act 1953.

2)Non-residents investing in MSC Malaysia Status companies are free to repatriate any amount of capital, divestment proceeds, profits and dividends arising from their investments.

3)MSC Malaysia Status companies are free to remit funds abroad, which are made in foreign currency and transacted through licensed onshore banks.

4)MSC Malaysia Status companies are also free to borrow from resident and nonresident lenders in Ringgit and in any foreign currency4 to finance their business operations.

5)MSC Malaysia Status companies can borrow in Ringgit:
Any amount from licensed onshore banks and other residents. Any amount from their non-resident non-bank parent companies for purpose of financing activities in the real sector in Malaysia. Up to RM1 million in aggregate from other non-resident non-bank companies or non-resident individuals for use in Malaysia.


This mean, any company with MSC status is actually and supposed to developed infrastructure and technology under the law of BoG. Instead, BossVenture.com (Cash Deal Sdn Bhd) had misconducted BoG to run a business under MLM scheme.

Hope this made it clear for you.
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post Dec 28 2013, 06:18 PM


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MLM again meh!!! Very sian wo.
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post Dec 28 2013, 07:19 PM


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MLM again meh!!! Very sian wo.
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Selling product/service using MLM platform is not an issue. The problem with this company is that they misused the status of MSC to run the business. It's just the matter of time for this company to shut down.
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My friend ask me on this. I just said bcareful...
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post Dec 29 2013, 03:06 PM


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QUOTE(colourfullife @ Dec 28 2013, 07:19 PM)
Selling product/service using MLM platform is not an issue. The problem with this company is that they misused the status of MSC to run the business. It's just the matter of time for this company to shut down.
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according to my friend this boss venture not going to run for long at most until 2015 July/Aug
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QUOTE(edison1437 @ Dec 29 2013, 03:06 PM)
according to my friend this boss venture not going to run for long at most until 2015 July/Aug
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hI may i know why? i got friends who joined it.
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QUOTE(FreedomX @ Dec 29 2013, 03:17 PM)
hI may i know why? i got friends who joined it.
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Why? I'll tell you why. It's a stupid pyramid scheme.

Imagine you have a company with a solid business that will earn profit, are you going to set a date to shut it down?

I think you have the answer in your heart.
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post Dec 29 2013, 04:29 PM


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QUOTE(FreedomX @ Dec 29 2013, 03:17 PM)
hI may i know why? i got friends who joined it.
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I dunno the actual reason

but the friend of mine already dumped 5k USD to this boss venture

i smell fishy but he sound very confident with the plan

since he said he already earning interest from the money he paid, i ask him to prove me that he is able to withdraw the money.

think if transaction success, will see the money latest Tuesday
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If anything too good to be true, quickly run away fast fast and far far.

My rule of thumb, if business that can promise you earning more than FD interest without any risk is equal to scam, coz then all bank will go bankrupt.

Join only if you can stomach the risk. Higher the return, higher the risk.
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post Dec 30 2013, 12:30 AM


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i think MLM method is workable, but it depends on company .

Life Insurance based company also using this MLM method to Run.

Regahome in Cheras also using this method, HLA also.

Traditional, Amway . It’s method works, but depends on individual .

But this Boss Venture, IMHO is the unproper ppl using the MLM method to make money.

But make it CLEAR.!

“MLM again ?”

So what wrong? nothing wrong with MLM.

This method is proven workable. Undeniable .

Because of this method, many company misuses it. So come out a scenario whereby ppl judge based on “MLM” not the actual fact. THEY REJECT “MLM” .

There is no short cut or easy way to do business. whether MLM or Traditional Business.

Genuine MLM which you can think about is

1) How long does it operate?

2)Any NEW Research and Development?

3)How does it performs? Like it's stock exchange performance??


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post Dec 30 2013, 03:11 AM


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QUOTE(kasey1314 @ Dec 30 2013, 12:30 AM)
i think MLM method is workable, but it depends on company .

Life Insurance based company also using this MLM method to Run.

Regahome in Cheras also using this method, HLA also.

Traditional, Amway . It’s method works, but depends on individual .
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not just big company use mlm for faster return
every seller also will be guide to follow mlm technique...
on how to attract ppl.... all company....
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post Dec 30 2013, 04:23 PM


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QUOTE(kasey1314 @ Dec 30 2013, 12:30 AM)
i think MLM method is workable, but it depends on company .

Life Insurance based company also using this MLM method to Run.

Regahome in Cheras also using this method, HLA also.

Traditional, Amway . It’s method works, but depends on individual .

But this Boss Venture, IMHO is the unproper ppl  using the MLM method to make money.

But make it CLEAR.!

“MLM again ?”

So what wrong? nothing wrong with MLM.

This method is proven workable. Undeniable .

Because of this method, many company misuses it. So come out a scenario whereby ppl judge based on “MLM” not the actual fact. THEY REJECT “MLM” .

There is no short cut or easy way to do business. whether MLM or Traditional Business.

Genuine MLM which you can think about is

1) How long does it operate?

2)Any NEW Research and Development?

3)How does it performs? Like it's stock exchange performance??
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information i have is you need to pay at least RM825 for start up

either you choose "sleep mode" or "active mode"

sleep mode you no need to find downline also can earn

active mode you need to find downline to earn more

i dont see any trading items here but money pretty similar to stock.....

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QUOTE(edison1437 @ Dec 30 2013, 04:23 PM)
information i have is you need to pay at least RM825 for start up

either you choose "sleep mode" or "active mode"

sleep mode you no need to find downline also can earn

active mode you need to find downline to earn more

i dont see any trading items here but money pretty similar to stock.....
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can i assume this is an MONEY GAME?


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post Dec 30 2013, 05:43 PM


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QUOTE(kasey1314 @ Dec 30 2013, 05:30 PM)
can i assume this is an MONEY GAME?
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No need to assume. It is money game.
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QUOTE(colourfullife @ Dec 30 2013, 05:43 PM)
No need to assume. It is money game.
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so the money game it like Piramid stuff, and MLM etc right??? vmad.gif vmad.gif vmad.gif rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(frey_zero @ Dec 30 2013, 05:47 PM)
so the money game it like Piramid stuff, and MLM etc right???  vmad.gif  vmad.gif  vmad.gif  rclxm9.gif
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Yes, money game is sort of like pyramid scheme. Once no money get pump in, the pyramid collapsed. Hence, not something you would want to put money in.

Having said that, don't mixed up pyramid and mlm. MLM is just a proven marketing strategy.

BV used MLM technique in order to get money pumped in to the pyramid. Without IBO finding new prospect to invest money nobody get paid.


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QUOTE(kasey1314 @ Dec 30 2013, 05:30 PM)
can i assume this is an MONEY GAME?
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QUOTE(colourfullife @ Dec 30 2013, 05:57 PM)
Yes, money game is sort of like pyramid scheme. Once no money get pump in, the pyramid collapsed. Hence, not something you would want to put money in.

Having said that, don't mixed up pyramid and mlm. MLM is just a proven marketing strategy.

BV used MLM technique in order to get money pumped in to the pyramid. Without IBO finding new prospect to invest money nobody get paid.
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i think you got the point upline absorb money from downline so on and so forth.....
the money will keep rolling if the downline keep on expending....
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QUOTE(colourfullife @ Dec 30 2013, 05:43 PM)
No need to assume. It is money game.
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But I still believe,

many people is making money of it. But definitely not ME,

Hakka people said “ Mao Miang Shui”.
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QUOTE(colourfullife @ Dec 30 2013, 05:57 PM)
Yes, money game is sort of like pyramid scheme. Once no money get pump in, the pyramid collapsed. Hence, not something you would want to put money in.

Having said that, don't mixed up pyramid and mlm. MLM is just a proven marketing strategy.

BV used MLM technique in order to get money pumped in to the pyramid. Without IBO finding new prospect to invest money nobody get paid.
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QUOTE(kasey1314 @ Dec 30 2013, 06:54 PM)
But I still believe,

many people is making money of it. But definitely not ME,

Hakka people said “ Mao Miang Shui”.
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Because you don't know how to con people, that's why can't earn a penny rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(edison1437 @ Dec 30 2013, 04:23 PM)
information i have is you need to pay at least RM825 for start up

either you choose "sleep mode" or "active mode"

sleep mode you no need to find downline also can earn

active mode you need to find downline to earn more

i dont see any trading items here but money pretty similar to stock.....
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Correction,
1)Sleep Mode/Passive mode, you MIGHT earn if there is daily sales profit
2) There is quite alot of trading of products/items, and it is nothing like stock

Im not too sure about why this was mentioned
"This mean, any company with MSC status is actually and supposed to developed infrastructure and technology under the law of BoG. Instead, BossVenture.com (Cash Deal Sdn Bhd) had misconducted BoG to run a business under MLM scheme."
Kindly do let us know why you think they are not developing infrastructured and technology ?

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but the friend of mine already dumped 5k USD to this boss venture

i smell fishy but he sound very confident with the plan

since he said he already earning interest from the money he paid, i ask him to prove me that he is able to withdraw the money.

think if transaction success, will see the money latest Tuesday

It will be on Friday icon_rolleyes.gif




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QUOTE(Azurika @ Dec 31 2013, 08:13 AM)
Correction,
1)Sleep Mode/Passive mode, you MIGHT earn if there is daily sales profit
2) There is quite alot of trading of products/items, and it is nothing like stock

Im not too sure about why this was mentioned
"This mean, any company with MSC status is actually and supposed to developed infrastructure and technology under the law of BoG. Instead, BossVenture.com (Cash Deal Sdn Bhd) had misconducted BoG to run a business under MLM scheme."
Kindly do let us know why you think they are not developing infrastructured and technology ?
It will be on Friday  icon_rolleyes.gif
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seems like you also a part of it

any successful withdrawal transaction?
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QUOTE(edison1437 @ Dec 31 2013, 08:40 AM)
seems like you also a part of it

any successful withdrawal transaction?
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Been with them awhile, yeah I am able to withdraw. You will receive it on Friday if your Maybank from "Cash Deals"
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Been with them awhile, yeah I am able to withdraw. You will receive it on Friday if your Maybank from "Cash Deals"
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as i know you able to get back your principle after like 4 months?
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QUOTE(edison1437 @ Dec 31 2013, 09:50 AM)
as i know you able to get back your principle after like 4 months?
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If your passive ? No ..
Basic entry your return of investment fully withdrawal is roughly 7 months
Top up USD30 upon entry and it would be 6 months.
Both of this are based on the assumption everyday they pay out Max profit, it is not guaranteed, but they have been doing so for the last 15 months.
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QUOTE(Azurika @ Dec 31 2013, 10:02 AM)
If your passive ? No ..
Basic entry your return of investment fully withdrawal is roughly 7 months
Top up USD30 upon entry and it would be 6 months.
Both of this are based on the assumption everyday they pay out Max profit, it is not guaranteed, but they have been doing so for the last 15 months.
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i dont understand the 1 highlighted

RM825 is the entry amount. to have the principle back you need 7 month. unless you add another USD 30 for 6 months.

Right?
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QUOTE(edison1437 @ Dec 31 2013, 10:09 AM)
i dont understand the 1 highlighted

RM825 is the entry amount. to have the principle back you need 7 month. unless you add another USD 30 for 6 months.

Right?
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Yes RM825 is the basic entry amount. You may choose to top up additional USD30/RM99 monthly which is optional. If you top up USD30 for the first month and not subsequent month, your return of investment is shorter due to higher capital in the passive income pool.
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Just like Genneva, top pyramid make big money.

Middle level make money,

Bottom level.........

Trust yourself .....like a forumer said.

If you know how to con, no need wait ......direct pump GAO GAO inside...

If you invest GAO GAO in early stage , sure make good returns....

Use your result to make the world shut up....
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QUOTE(kasey1314 @ Dec 31 2013, 06:38 PM)
Just like Genneva, top pyramid make big money.

Middle level make money,

Bottom level.........


Trust yourself .....like a forumer said.

If you know how to con, no need wait ......direct pump GAO GAO inside...

If you invest GAO GAO in early stage , sure make good returns....

Use your result to make the world shut up....
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Aint that the basic of most MLM shocking.gif why is it only Genneva ? shakehead.gif
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I just cannot understand how the company make money except getting money from new members. You got 100% discount - are you kidding? It means you buy without paying a penny. How the hell a e-commerce stall make money like that? Somemore boast got MSC status and have established all over Asia?

Why the authority taking action like Geneva? Really need to wait till is too late?
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QUOTE(edison1437 @ Dec 29 2013, 03:06 PM)
according to my friend this boss venture not going to run for long at most until 2015 July/Aug
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may i ask where is this information from???
Son of the founder? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(OniDoro @ Jan 24 2014, 05:44 PM)
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may i ask where is this information from???
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Nobody can predict the collapse period. Why your friend said that? Any evidence to substance his words?
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The safest bet you can predict that your 1.5% will drop is in 2021 when they start getting taxed. Personally I do not see it dieing anytime within 3-4 years yet.
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QUOTE(edison1437 @ Dec 31 2013, 10:09 AM)
i dont understand the 1 highlighted

RM825 is the entry amount. to have the principle back you need 7 month. unless you add another USD 30 for 6 months.

Right?
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I know this is too late to reply on the thread but I found this interesting.

The start up cost is RM825 or USD250 (250x 3.3). You are paying for the franchise fee to become the company Reseller Licensee not enrollment fee.

How do you make money staying passive?

From the USD250, USD100 is used to buy peek credits that will generate up to 1.5% daily payment known as Daily Sales Incentive. No sponsoring is necessary to earn from the business because of revenue sharing concept.

The company allocates 20% of its global daily sales from peek credits and physical products from its e-Mall - BVMalls.Com to be shared by their resellers as Daily Sales Incentive. Now, if they can pay up to 1.5% daily from the 20% allocation, the global daily sales volume must be huge.

What is peek credit? It is a discount value that can be used for shopping at the online mall. Why is it valuable? Because you cannot shop at the mall without buying peek credits. You use peek credits to buy things. Who says it is money game?

Top up here means to buy peek credits so that your Daily Sales Incentive value will increase. Istead of getting USD1.50 daily, you will get more. The minimum top up is USD500 and max is USD10,000. Does get rich quick scheme have max amount?

The USD30 top up is for a reseller to qualify for the earn 3% overriding incentives from their referrals Daily Sales Incentive earnings.

Although the network marketing plan is based on binary system BUT they incorporate 5 x 5 matrix plan to prevent the build up of the so called pyramid system. That means you can only have a total of 3905 people in your network. And 5x5 matrix will give you a clear indication of your potential income. So, this is not a pyramid scheme.

As for Cash Deal Sdn Bhd MSC status I don't think they misused the status at all because the company core activities as per MSC registration are Research, development and commercialization of Digital Neural Application (D.N.A) and e-Mall Solution.

They helped developed BossVenture online mall BVMalls.Com, which is within their core activities.

Will this be another Geneva, American Euro Index, Swiss Cash, Mirza?

Well, for sure those mentioned above either does not have a license to take deposit from the public or not licensed to manage other people money.

ONLY licensed commercial banks can take deposits from the public. And ONLY licensed investment company can invest people money.

They need license from Bank Negara Malaysia and Security Commissions, which this case those companies DOES NOT have therefore deemed Get RICH Quick Scheme. That's WHY they are closed down! Ha ha ha..

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QUOTE(rymkk @ Jan 29 2014, 06:22 PM)
I know this is too late to reply on the thread but I found this interesting.

The start up cost is RM825 or USD250 (250x 3.3).  You are paying for the franchise fee to become the company Reseller Licensee not enrollment fee.

How do you make money staying passive?

From the USD250, USD100 is used to buy peek credits that will generate up to 1.5% daily payment known as Daily Sales Incentive.  No sponsoring is necessary to earn from the business because of revenue sharing concept.

The company allocates 20% of its global daily sales from peek credits and physical products from its e-Mall - BVMalls.Com to be shared by their resellers as Daily Sales Incentive.  Now, if they can pay up to 1.5% daily from the 20% allocation, the global daily sales volume must be huge. 

What is peek credit?  It is a discount value that can be used for shopping at the online mall.  Why is it valuable?  Because you cannot shop at the mall without buying peek credits.  You use peek credits to buy things.  Who says it is money game?

Top up here means to buy peek credits so that your Daily Sales Incentive value will increase.  Istead of getting USD1.50 daily, you will get more.  The minimum top up is USD500 and max is USD10,000.  Does get rich quick scheme have max amount?

The USD30 top up is for a reseller to qualify for the earn 3% overriding incentives from their referrals Daily Sales Incentive earnings.

Although the network marketing plan is based on binary system BUT they incorporate 5 x 5 matrix plan to prevent the build up of the so called pyramid system.  That means you can only have a total of 3905 people in your network.  And 5x5 matrix will give you a clear indication of your potential income.  So, this is not a pyramid scheme.

As for Cash Deal Sdn Bhd MSC status I don't think they misused the status at all because the company core activities as per MSC registration are Research, development and commercialization of Digital Neural Application (D.N.A) and e-Mall Solution.

They helped developed BossVenture online mall BVMalls.Com, which is within their core activities.

Will this be another Geneva, American Euro Index, Swiss Cash, Mirza? 

Well, for sure those mentioned above either does not have a license to take deposit from the public or not licensed to manage other people money. 

ONLY licensed commercial banks can take deposits from the public.  And ONLY licensed investment company can invest people money. 

They need license from Bank Negara Malaysia and Security Commissions, which this case those companies DOES NOT have therefore deemed Get RICH Quick Scheme.  That's WHY they are closed down!  Ha ha ha..
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Hope you all realize this isn't really a MLM, it is worst as is Ponzi scam
in any investment, when the return is too good to be true, is time to be cautious

Ponzi is taking new investor's money (or old investor's own buyback) to pay back to old investors
there are a lot of online video and materials on how to detect a Ponzi, everyone should be extra cautious

even if you are old investors and are able to take the profit and run and probably even get to afford a brand new car, don't forget about karma as black heart money need to pay back eventually. Because once the Ponzi pyramid is "built" we all know somehow there will be people get burn at the end when it collapse ..

the only one who win big is the scammer, old investors win small and most investors lose their hard earned savings
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Hope you all realize this isn't really a MLM, it is worst as is Ponzi scam
in any investment, when the return is too good to be true, is time to be cautious

Ponzi is taking new investor's money (or old investor's own buyback) to pay back to old investors
there are a lot of online video and materials on how to detect a Ponzi, everyone should be extra cautious

even if you are old investors and are able to take the profit and run and probably even get to afford a brand new car, don't forget about karma as black heart money need to pay back eventually. Because once the Ponzi pyramid is "built" we all know somehow there will be people get burn at the end when it collapse ..

the only one who win big is the scammer, old investors win small and most investors lose their hard earned savings
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Newbie here. Do you mean it is a scam? But what I heard those people are really earning.
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I know this is too late to reply on the thread but I found this interesting.

The start up cost is RM825 or USD250 (250x 3.3).  You are paying for the franchise fee to become the company Reseller Licensee not enrollment fee.

How do you make money staying passive?

From the USD250, USD100 is used to buy peek credits that will generate up to 1.5% daily payment known as Daily Sales Incentive.  No sponsoring is necessary to earn from the business because of revenue sharing concept.

The company allocates 20% of its global daily sales from peek credits and physical products from its e-Mall - BVMalls.Com to be shared by their resellers as Daily Sales Incentive.  Now, if they can pay up to 1.5% daily from the 20% allocation, the global daily sales volume must be huge. 

What is peek credit?  It is a discount value that can be used for shopping at the online mall.  Why is it valuable?  Because you cannot shop at the mall without buying peek credits.  You use peek credits to buy things.  Who says it is money game?

Top up here means to buy peek credits so that your Daily Sales Incentive value will increase.  Istead of getting USD1.50 daily, you will get more.  The minimum top up is USD500 and max is USD10,000.  Does get rich quick scheme have max amount?

The USD30 top up is for a reseller to qualify for the earn 3% overriding incentives from their referrals Daily Sales Incentive earnings.

Although the network marketing plan is based on binary system BUT they incorporate 5 x 5 matrix plan to prevent the build up of the so called pyramid system.  That means you can only have a total of 3905 people in your network.  And 5x5 matrix will give you a clear indication of your potential income.  So, this is not a pyramid scheme.

As for Cash Deal Sdn Bhd MSC status I don't think they misused the status at all because the company core activities as per MSC registration are Research, development and commercialization of Digital Neural Application (D.N.A) and e-Mall Solution.

They helped developed BossVenture online mall BVMalls.Com, which is within their core activities.

Will this be another Geneva, American Euro Index, Swiss Cash, Mirza? 

Well, for sure those mentioned above either does not have a license to take deposit from the public or not licensed to manage other people money. 

ONLY licensed commercial banks can take deposits from the public.  And ONLY licensed investment company can invest people money. 

They need license from Bank Negara Malaysia and Security Commissions, which this case those companies DOES NOT have therefore deemed Get RICH Quick Scheme.  That's WHY they are closed down!  Ha ha ha..
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Erm, I might have misunderstood your meaning, but how is this related to BossVenture where clearly stated they are not doing investments or taking deposits? Basically the users are trading their cash for peek credits which generates the passive income right ? If so, aint this more to "purchasing" rather then "deposits" ?

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Erm, I might have misunderstood your meaning, but how is this related to BossVenture where clearly stated they are not doing investments or taking deposits?  Basically the users are trading their cash for peek credits which generates the passive income right ? If so, aint this more to "purchasing" rather then "deposits" ?
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I just cannot understand how the company make money except getting money from new members. You got 100% discount - are you kidding? It means you buy without paying a penny. How the hell a e-commerce stall make money like that? Somemore boast got MSC status and have established all over Asia?

Why the authority taking action like Geneva? Really need to wait till is too late?
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Will this be another Geneva, American Euro Index, Swiss Cash, Mirza?

Well, for sure those mentioned above either does not have a license to take deposit from the public or not licensed to manage other people money.

ONLY licensed commercial banks can take deposits from the public. And ONLY licensed investment company can invest people money.

They need license from Bank Negara Malaysia and Security Commissions, which this case those companies DOES NOT have therefore deemed Get RICH Quick Scheme. That's WHY they are closed down! Ha ha ha..
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Hi rymkk, yes It is eventually a scam.

Here are some general information regarding Ponzi scams

1) They could use any "vehicle" to run the scam, most use "investments" as vehicle, like forex trading, livestock like palm estate, gold or agar wood. Scammers could also use "business" to launch their Ponzi, bottom line, as long as the return is a "transfer of wealth" from new investors to old investors. It is a Ponzi, if the profit comes from below:
a) new investors or
b) reinvested money from old investors)
2) There are 2 big things to lookout to spot a Ponzi,
a) They "always" successfully pay the "profit" to early investors without fail. They will make it look and seems believable to fish for more "buy in" investors.
b) They "always" have a method for investors to "reinvest" their earnings and to get "more profit" via re-investment, and would always discourage cash out.

most Ponzi can last to couple of years due to the above 2 points, as old investors keep pumping in their so called "profit" while looking for "new believers"

hope this helps clear some doubts
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QUOTE(riin_mon @ Feb 18 2014, 02:41 PM)
Hi rymkk, yes It is eventually a scam.

Here are some general information regarding Ponzi scams

1) They could use any "vehicle" to run the scam, most use "investments" as vehicle, like forex trading, livestock like palm estate, gold or agar wood. Scammers could also use "business" to launch their Ponzi, bottom line, as long as the return is a "transfer of wealth" from new investors to old investors. It is a Ponzi, if the profit comes from below:
  a) new investors or
  b) reinvested money from old investors)
2) There are 2 big things to lookout to spot a Ponzi,
  a) They "always" successfully pay the "profit" to early investors without fail. They will make it look and seems believable to fish for more "buy in" investors.
  b) They "always" have a method for investors to "reinvest" their earnings and to get "more profit" via re-investment, and would always discourage cash out.

most Ponzi can last to couple of years due to the above 2 points, as old investors keep pumping in their so called "profit" while looking for "new believers"

hope this helps clear some doubts
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Well said icon_rolleyes.gif short and sweet tip for the many naive out there thumbup.gif

Also, do take note that more often that none for many companies, it is the irresponsible leader's or distributors who over promise or falsify information and not the founders themself, hence turning a situation sour.
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QUOTE(riin_mon @ Feb 18 2014, 02:41 PM)
Hi rymkk, yes It is eventually a scam.

Here are some general information regarding Ponzi scams

1) They could use any "vehicle" to run the scam, most use "investments" as vehicle, like forex trading, livestock like palm estate, gold or agar wood. Scammers could also use "business" to launch their Ponzi, bottom line, as long as the return is a "transfer of wealth" from new investors to old investors. It is a Ponzi, if the profit comes from below:
   a) new investors or
   b) reinvested money from old investors)
2) There are 2 big things to lookout to spot a Ponzi,
   a) They "always" successfully pay the "profit" to early investors without fail. They will make it look and seems believable to fish for more "buy in" investors.
   b) They "always" have a method for investors to "reinvest" their earnings and to get "more profit" via re-investment, and would always discourage cash out.

most Ponzi can last to couple of years due to the above 2 points, as old investors keep pumping in their so called "profit" while looking for "new believers"

hope this helps clear some doubts
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Hi riin_mon,

Thanks for the input. Well, gosh. It seems everyone here have something interesting to say about this topic. Will bossventure eventually turn into scam? I have no idea.

But they are celebrating the 3rd anniversary of the company's online mall BVMalls.Com on 22 February 2014.

Personally, I don't fancy investment scheme. I'd rather trade FOREX myself than join investment scheme.

I found Boss Venture different because they are just like a regular home business opportunity program like Melilea, Elken, e-Cosway, Amway, etc.

But they are not direct sales company so they don't need AJL license. They don't sell their own products but operates an online mall with participating merchants, just like a shopping complex with many shops operators.

The one thing that makes them unique is they employs revenue sharing concept that pays out up to 1.5% as daily sales incentive. And that I believe many of us immediately start to think they are one of those schemes.

Imagine Lazada.Com starts their own reseller licensee referral program and share a portion of their daily sales volume to their affiliates. I wonder if they will also be called "ponzi" scheme?

Anyway, just my 1 cents of thought.

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http://www.bnm.gov.my/documents/2014/190214_FCA_en.pdf

No 19.
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Yeah, right. But what makes boss venture categorized under unlicensed activities?

Cash Deal is registered with ssm and their msc core activities stated as Research, development and commercialization of Digital Neural Application (D.N.A) e-Mall Solution.

Bill of Guarantee No. 4: To give the freedom to source capital globally for MSC Malaysia infrastructure, and the right to borrow funds globally.

Interpretation

Flexibility to Source Capital and Funds Globally

Responsible Ministries / Agencies

§ The Central Bank of Malaysia (Bank Negara Malaysia).


I believe before the MSC status given approval, BNM must gone through the necessary documents. Now as of February, they are saying the company is doing unlicensed activities?

Oh my. No wonder BNM has once again approves car insurance rates hike. They just approve things blindly then later gives excuses. Buaya Nasional government is like that. Infested with corruption.
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Yeah, right.  But what makes boss venture categorized under unlicensed activities? 

Cash Deal is registered with ssm and their msc core activities stated as Research, development and commercialization of Digital Neural Application (D.N.A) e-Mall Solution.

Bill of Guarantee No. 4: To give the freedom to source capital globally for MSC Malaysia infrastructure, and the right to borrow funds globally.

Interpretation

Flexibility to Source Capital and Funds Globally

Responsible Ministries / Agencies

§ The Central Bank of Malaysia (Bank Negara Malaysia).


I believe before the MSC status given approval, BNM must gone through the necessary documents.  Now as of February, they are saying the company is doing unlicensed activities?

Oh my.  No wonder BNM has once again approves car insurance rates hike.  They just approve things blindly then later gives excuses.  Buaya Nasional government is like that.  Infested with corruption.
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Biasalar, when shtf, must look like they are doing something. Or maybe when they present their business plan, they didnt reveal their true plan, hence the u turn.
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Biasalar, when shtf, must look like they are doing something. Or maybe when they present their business plan, they didnt reveal their true plan, hence the u turn.
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Its the same with most MLM or whatever business plan in the market.
If company sustain, the non believers will butthurt
If company shutdown, the believers will butthurt
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Back to a rational question, trading RM825 --> RM2k within 1 year for this risk, can you afford to lose this sum of cash or not ?
In all honestly, many of the people I mix with a diversified investment portfolio put in the minimum or do the monthly top up as it is a potential pioneership for them. What is RM<1k to these people ?? However, I do advice against the people who want to max in 10K cash within my network sweat.gif And for those in financial crisis, Id always advice them against it too as it could be an amount they will lose the next day smile.gif

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Its the same with most MLM or whatever business plan in the market.
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If company shutdown, the believers will butthurt
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Hahaha... that's a good one.


It seems in Malaysia, everything becomes illegal and scam when a company starts paying more than the banks, unit trust, insurance and takaful companies are paying annually.

Why EPF is never scrutinized when only during the election time they declared 6.5% dividend from the billions of contributors’ monies when all this while it has been revolving around 4% to 4.5% per year?

The real facts is those registered financial providers are only paying a fraction of the company’s daily profits to their investors and that portion is paid annually. Imagine a company earning RM1 Million daily profits but only pays RM40,000 of that daily profits as the company yearly dividend.

That is the real scenario in Malaysia.

Ha! Another one of my 1 cents thought.
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Hahaha... that's a good one.
It seems in Malaysia, everything becomes illegal and scam when a company starts paying more than the banks, unit trust, insurance and takaful companies are paying annually. 

Why EPF is never scrutinized when only during the election time they declared 6.5% dividend from the billions of contributors’ monies when all this while it has been revolving around 4% to 4.5% per year?

The real facts is those registered financial providers are only paying a fraction of the company’s daily profits to their investors and that portion is paid annually. Imagine a company earning RM1 Million daily profits but only pays RM40,000 of that daily profits as the company yearly dividend.

That is the real scenario in Malaysia.

Ha!  Another one of my 1 cents thought.
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Simple bro
Banks, Unit Trust, Insurance, EPF had a history of >10 years running
- they pay lower, people feel save and assured with long established companies.
New MLM < 3 years
- they pay high at first to bring in the numbers, if they are legit and sustain , the payout will be revamped later on.
if is a scam, butthurt everywhere ~

Who do you trust in sustainability ? brows.gif
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Simple bro
Banks, Unit Trust, Insurance, EPF had a history of >10 years running
- they pay lower, people feel save and assured with long established companies. 
New MLM < 3 years
- they pay high at first to bring in the numbers, if they are legit and sustain , the payout will be revamped later on.
if is a scam, butthurt everywhere ~

Who do you trust in sustainability ?  brows.gif
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Yup! You got a good point there. "Sustainability."

I still say their annual returns could do better. But our financial markets are tightly control by the government. For what reason, only they know.

Now the economy is slow. People are not earning as much and as fast as the increasing prices of goods and services.

So, boss venture comes out with their revenue sharing program to recession proof their affiliate’s income. But the government sees this as a threat to their own existences. To cover up their own weakness in solving the country's ailing economy they came out with all sorts of nonsense. And one of them is latest BNM alert on Cash Deal Sdn Bhd.

Being the Chairman of boss venture, I wonder what Hakim Hamidi will have to say about this?





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Yup! You got a good point there. "Sustainability."

I still say their annual returns could do better.  But our financial markets are tightly control by the government.  For what reason, only they know. 

Now the economy is slow.  People are not earning as much and as fast as the increasing prices of goods and services.

So, boss venture comes out with their revenue sharing program to recession proof their affiliate’s income.  But the government sees this as a threat to their own existences.  To cover up their own weakness in solving the country's ailing economy they came out with all sorts of nonsense.  And one of them is latest BNM alert on Cash Deal Sdn Bhd. 

Being the Chairman of boss venture, I wonder what Hakim Hamidi will have to say about this?
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Thats why Cash Deals is owned by another company which is founded in Australia by Richard and Billy:P they purposely position it this way.
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It looks to me that WorldVentures operates this way which uses "travel" as their vehicle.

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Yeah, right.  But what makes boss venture categorized under unlicensed activities? 

Cash Deal is registered with ssm and their msc core activities stated as Research, development and commercialization of Digital Neural Application (D.N.A) e-Mall Solution.

Bill of Guarantee No. 4: To give the freedom to source capital globally for MSC Malaysia infrastructure, and the right to borrow funds globally.

Interpretation

Flexibility to Source Capital and Funds Globally

Responsible Ministries / Agencies

§ The Central Bank of Malaysia (Bank Negara Malaysia).


I believe before the MSC status given approval, BNM must gone through the necessary documents.  Now as of February, they are saying the company is doing unlicensed activities?

Oh my.  No wonder BNM has once again approves car insurance rates hike.  They just approve things blindly then later gives excuses.  Buaya Nasional government is like that.  Infested with corruption.
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Thats quite a long list. I wonder if all of those companies are really involved in "investment" activities.
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Let me get this straight - they are meant to have huge revenue from http://bvmalls.com/ , from which they pay out a percentage? Lol rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

Looking at the **** they sell I'd be suprised if they generate any sales through this "E-mall" at all. Looks like 99% overpriced rubbish and a website that was designed by a teenager.


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How does BV actually make money. A company must be selling a tangible product or service in order to generate real money.

I define real money as profits made from selling of a product or service to people outside the company and not from capital from new investors. Also, what does the members of BV actually sell to external customers. What is their turnaround time.

Merely selling so-called "Peak Credits" to members is in itself useless if the members themselves cannot dispose of the end-product. Such a scheme is as good as members just putting in capital in the company to pay themselves.
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if already in BNM list, then u should be very2 careful with the company. BNM simply won't list any company in "unauthorized entities/ individual" just like that.
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How does BV actually make money. A company must be selling a tangible product or service in order to generate real money.

I define real money as profits made from selling of a product or service to people outside the company and not from capital from new investors. Also, what does the members of BV actually sell to external customers. What is their turnaround time.

Merely selling so-called "Peak Credits" to members is in itself useless if the members themselves cannot dispose of the end-product. Such a scheme is as good as members just putting in capital in the company to pay themselves.
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They have huge revenues from their online shop

http://bvmalls.com/

Going to be the next Amazon drool.gif
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Let me get this straight - they are meant to have huge revenue from http://bvmalls.com/ , from which they pay out a percentage? Lol  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif

Looking at the **** they sell I'd be suprised if they generate any sales through this "E-mall" at all. Looks like 99% overpriced rubbish and a website that was designed by a teenager.
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I have to agree, the items are useless and over priced even to compare with Tesco tongue.gif
However, seems like the Indonesia mall is generating about 600k daily sales thou. Also, their revenue to pay out also comes from networking, my line burn everyday , so Im quite sure there is at least 50 account sign up daily, cant say in total thou since they expended to so many countries d.

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I have to agree, the items are useless and over priced even to compare with Tesco  tongue.gif
However, seems like the Indonesia mall is generating about 600k daily sales thou. Also, their revenue to pay out also comes from networking, my line burn everyday , so Im quite sure there is at least 50 account sign up daily, cant say in total thou since they expended to so many countries d.
Indonesia mall (assuming it's the same link) isn't even complete, I'd be suprised if they had 600k Rupiah of daily sales tongue.gif
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Indonesia mall (assuming it's the same link) isn't even complete, I'd be suprised if they had 600k Rupiah of daily sales  tongue.gif
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Currently the mall is down ever since they "changed" the interface, since late January. Hence Daily sales is actually 0. We from Malaysia are unable to access Indo mall, you need to be connected to their telco to do so, tested on my phone when I was at Jakarta. They count everything in USD as standard, hence is 600K USD not Rupiah. Well, I have to agree that the Indo Mall does have a better variety of products offered, prices are still steep thou, however not sure how true is this, but my Indo friends told me they prefer this then Groupon if given the option sweat.gif For all I care, they pay me, I cash out, Im happy tongue.gif
And I can say this, I dont know how long this company will sustain, but even if they do for the next 5 years or more, their 1.5% payout will not sustain when people start withdrawing smile.gif so please be smart la for those In it d tongue.gif
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I'm the 1 of those ppl who join this bizz..and My wife went to the 3rd aniv dinner...know what ...she met 1malay girl...and this girl earn 20k/week ..and she is 21 ....and aunty who dunno IT earn 500k/month ....all the success boss..and I'm soo ' terbakar ' with That.....i wanna like then to....

And remember to all...this is Not investment or saving....we get profit from purchasing....please who advertise this...dun misunderstanding this fact...this kind of missunderstanding Make our bizz on BNM list... cool2.gif

Psst: who want join juta PM me rclxm9.gif rclxms.gif cool2.gif brows.gif

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So conclusion, BossVenture is trustable or not?
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this thing run since 2011 .. now its about 4 years ler... how can it be label as untrustable? mny pple success.... cool2.gif cool2.gif
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Take Genneva as example.
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congratz scamventure.... just been listed down ranking no 19 under BNM watch list as running business without license biggrin.gif
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this thing run since 2011 .. now its about 4 years ler... how can it be label as untrustable? mny pple success.... cool2.gif  cool2.gif
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3 years + ...
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congratz scamventure.... just been listed down ranking no 19 under BNM watch list as running business without license biggrin.gif
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Is true, they do not have License to run the business under an "Investment Scheme" ~ icon_rolleyes.gif
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same la ...hahahahaha what us important ..im very confident to this...and...with 1.5% daily...who want to glve thus....join me..or u all will rugi 1.5 hahahah rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif

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same ka ...hahahahaha what us impirtant us..im very cinfident to this...and...with 1.5% daily...who want to guve thus....join me..or u all will rugi 1.5 hahahah rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif
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Beware of your method of promotion, as it is not complying with company compliance.
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Beware of your method of promotion, as it is not complying with company compliance.
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Hahaha I'm aware of that ... as long we dont say it an investment or savings ....this is profit over purchasing around the world .....btw azurika U also boss venture reseller?

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from what I can understand from a friend of mine..
this basic 800+ plan will gives you
- 100dollars (rm360 roughly)
- get to withdraw your profit on 9th month of your investment

but the catch is.. (this I assume this business is legal and safe)
- donno where my balance 400++ go
- on 3rd month you investment start to take some 'tax' or something $100
- after the 3rd month $100 'tax' ur investment will be taking a 'daily tax' but smaller then ur compound interest so u still make money
- at the 9th month u can only withdraw 20% of ur investment
- lastly, their $ to RM conversion is just rm2.7+/$

I ask about my friend why rm2.7/$, what this $100 'tax', what is this 'daily tax', and can I take out my investment before 3rd month.. all he cannot explain..

this is my softest way to tell him that im saying NO!..
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QUOTE(ELinawa @ Feb 27 2014, 11:52 AM)
from what I can understand from a friend of mine..
this basic 800+ plan will gives you
- 100dollars (rm360 roughly)
- get to withdraw your profit on 9th month of your investment

but the catch is.. (this I assume this business is legal and safe)
- donno where my balance 400++ go
- on 3rd month you investment start to take some 'tax' or something $100
- after the 3rd month $100 'tax' ur investment will be taking a 'daily tax' but smaller then ur compound interest so u still make money
- at the 9th month u can only withdraw 20% of ur investment
- lastly, their $ to RM conversion is just rm2.7+/$

I ask about my friend why rm2.7/$, what this $100 'tax', what is this 'daily tax', and can I take out my investment before 3rd month.. all he cannot explain..

this is my softest way to tell him that im saying NO!..
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that 400 is for 1time cyber license ..about the 100$ 'tax' a.it for rolling back the buzz...
-about the 20% withdrawal... that not true ....that 20%is the BEST setting to withdraw..u can set any% U want PM ME if U want more and the truth about it

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Hahaha I'm aware of that ... as long we dont say it an investment or savings ....this is profit over purchasing around the world .....btw azurika U also boss venture  reseller?
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Your also stating 1.5% , not up to 1.5% which many people assume it will max always tongue.gif and this is also non compliance. Thats how a legit company will get screw. Im very sure the 1.5% will not sustain pass the 5th year mark unless the SG and China mall hits big.

QUOTE(ELinawa @ Feb 27 2014, 11:52 AM)
from what I can understand from a friend of mine..
this basic 800+ plan will gives you
- 100dollars (rm360 roughly) RM330 , is x3.3 not 3.6
- get to withdraw your profit on 9th month of your investment you can withdraw anytime, is just to make it simple, start drawing on the 9th month (270day) and at the 360 day based on perfect senario[SIZE=7], you get USD777 = roughly RM2k after all deductions.

but the catch is.. (this I assume this business is legal and safe)
- donno where my balance 400++ go it pays your upline, and contribute to the DSI pull to pay your that up to 1.5% bonus
- on 3rd month you investment start to take some 'tax' or something $100 I wont go into detail which this as is complicated and you want to meet me up for clarification if your really interested, is not tax, is a calculation method so they DO NOT overpay.
- after the 3rd month $100 'tax' ur investment will be taking a 'daily tax' but smaller then ur compound interest so u still make money I wont go into detail which this as is complicated and you want to meet me up for clarification if your really interested, is not tax, is a calculation method so they DO NOT overpay.
- at the 9th month u can only withdraw 20% of ur investment This is not a investment, if it is , it is ILLEGAL !. You get the full 100% of the passive income and only charged 3% admin fee during withdrawal.
- lastly, their $ to RM conversion is just rm2.7+/$ thats how they company make money, and not overpay. For all you should care, if company cannot make money, how can they sustain and pay you ?

I ask about my friend why rm2.7/$, what this $100 'tax', what is this 'daily tax', and can I take out my investment before 3rd month.. all he cannot explain..
You can ask your friend to fly kite, thats how untrained and irresponsible people destroy new business models and MLM market. you can withdraw out everything by the 3rd month, is just you will be at a lost if your only looking at passive income ! Your total you draw out at day 90 is USD135 IF everyday hits 1.5% when you put in USD250

this is my softest way to tell him that im saying NO!..
Thats the right thing to do ! As going under someone who does not know the business model is going to cost you more then just your RM825 !
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erm...why keep saying boss venture is established all across asia? i only see indon and malaysia interested in this kind of things.. probably not approved in developed country so have to aim third world country where everything can be settle through "ehem ehem"...keep saying global mall but all visitor come from malaysia and small fraction from indonesia..can check alexa for the statistics.. website so cikai like use template only, very funny for a "MSC STATUS COMPANY".. non msc company can do better website..

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erm...why keep saying boss venture is established all across asia? i only see indon and malaysia interested in this kind of things.. probably not approved in developed country so have to aim third world country where everything can be settle through "ehem ehem"...keep saying global mall but all visitor come from malaysia and small fraction from indonesia..can check alexa for the statistics.. website so cikai like use template only, very funny for a "MSC STATUS COMPANY".. non msc company can do better website..
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Website is seriously fcuked ! You have no idea how worried and headache me and my team had during Dec and Jan. Servers and website was practically down and overloaded ! I myself am worried company was ready to shut down and run my USD10k , but early February things started to stabilized.

They manage to hit MSC status due to their "IT Marketing Plan" , if is about infrastructure , web design , they are 10 years late !
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Website is seriously fcuked ! You have no idea how worried and headache me and my team had during Dec and Jan. Servers and website was practically down and overloaded !  I myself am worried company was ready to shut down and run my USD10k , but early February things started to stabilized.

They manage to hit MSC status due to their "IT Marketing Plan" , if is about infrastructure , web design , they are 10 years late !
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But as long as u get ur modal back and make some money u should b ok..hehe..just harvest ur early bird reward..for those late comers there might be some risk since it was already enlisted in bnm..I doubt they really start since 2011..mayb they just registered the company or website in 2011 and only enter full gear in 2013..
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But as long as u get ur modal back and make some money u should b ok..hehe..just harvest ur early bird reward..for those late comers there might be some risk since it was already enlisted in bnm..I doubt they really start since 2011..mayb they just registered the company or website in 2011 and only enter full gear in 2013..
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As I know, the mall for MY was open in late 2011, and Indo was in 2012 , their office in HK was open sumwhere May 2013. Its true early bird definitely already enjoyed all the benefits, question now is how long does the "early bird" season last. Id always share this risk with all my partners as is their hard earn cash they are putting in.
As investments are, high risk high return tongue.gif
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As I know, the mall for MY was open in late 2011, and Indo was in 2012 , their office in HK was open sumwhere May 2013.  Its true early bird definitely already enjoyed all the benefits, question now is how long does the "early bird" season last. Id always share this risk with all my partners as is their hard earn cash they are putting in.
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Good for u...I'm not against this kind of things but I'm against ppl who sells fantasy n dreams...a lot of ppl here in Sabah are very obsessed with this thing..they believe every single thing the coo/CEO told them..they really thought they are shareholder of the next google...they even fly all the way to kl for d dinner..most of the ppl in the picture during the anniversary are sabahan.. They boast about bv as if it is the best n biggest "e-mall" in d world.not even once they tried to promote the stuff advertised in the website..all they talk about is d 1.5%/day. Actually my parent also join bv and put around 30k usd since last July or August.. I advised them to play smart..I guess they already earn the benefit bcoz i saw new massage chair and treadmill in their house..haha

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QUOTE(avanray @ Feb 27 2014, 10:11 PM)
Good for u...I'm not against this kind of things but I'm against ppl who sells fantasy n dreams...a lot of ppl here in Sabah are very obsessed with this thing..they believe every single thing the coo/CEO told them..they really thought they are shareholder of the next google...they even fly all the way to kl for d dinner..most of the ppl in the picture during the anniversary are sabahan.. They boast about bv as if it is the best n biggest "e-mall" in d world.not even once they tried to promote the stuff advertised in the website..all they talk about is d 1.5%/day. Actually my parent also join bv and put around 30k usd since last July or August.. I advised them to play smart..I guess they already earn the benefit bcoz i saw new massage chair and treadmill in their house..haha
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If the 30K is a sum they can lose, then by all means. Even if they cash out direct, within 90 days they gain a positive 2% of their 30K after deducting admin fee and conversion rate. Lets be smart, when the pool gets bigger, there is less cake for everyone smile.gif unless the cake can get bigger. Thats why I told everybody sustainability for more then 5 years highly depends on their mall in SG and China.
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I just cannot understand how the company make money except getting money from new members. You got 100% discount - are you kidding? It means you buy without paying a penny. How the hell a e-commerce stall make money like that? Somemore boast got MSC status and have established all over Asia?

Why the authority taking action like Geneva? Really need to wait till is too late?
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No customer complain ma.. BNM cannot take action..

genuine customer / investor make complain.. then BNM can take action.

Also.. go check out who is the owner of cash deal sdn bhd.. his last name is same as one politician. Wonder if they are related.

schemes like this like to use royalties, politicians, and other VVIP to boost up their legitimacy perception.

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No customer complain ma.. BNM cannot take action..

genuine customer / investor make complain.. then BNM can take action.

Also.. go check out who is the owner of cash deal sdn bhd.. his last name is same as one politician. Wonder if they are related.

schemes like this like to use royalties, politicians, and other VVIP to boost up their legitimacy perception.
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Name me 1 local scheme revolving B2B/Network marketing that doesnt  doh.gif
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Yeah, thats how naive the people within the world are smile.gif even the Kiam Siap Singaporeans are hot sellers due to the Kia Su factor kicks in icon_idea.gif

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so bro Azurika, u r in for passive type or active type?

i'm dumping in some cash and gonna let it roll for 270 days to earn some fast cash. gonna be passive type.

from the currently assign 1.5% DSI, the passive income return gonna be wild after 270 days.
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so bro Azurika, u r in for passive type or active type?

i'm dumping in some cash and gonna let it roll for 270 days to earn some fast cash. gonna be passive type.

from the currently assign 1.5% DSI, the passive income return gonna be wild after 270 days.
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Im active smile.gif But my Passive from my active surpass my passive if you understand what I mean tongue.gif
"4th payout from Active side" ~

If you dump RM825/924 , yeah 360 days include withdrawal for your fast cash.
If you dump RM35475, 90 days include withdrawal time you gain a positive of 2% = RM709.5 , none of my network can give you an exact amount based on 360 days compound as they withdraw bit by bit start from the 90 day smile.gif

This is based on 1.5% calculation smile.gif
Remember a full withdrawal requires 90 days starting from the day you decide to withdraw it smile.gif Take that into account please as many irresponsible leaders will never advice this information shakehead.gif

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Im active smile.gif But my Passive from my active surpass my passive if you understand what I mean  tongue.gif
"4th payout from Active side" ~

If you dump RM825/924 , yeah 360 days include withdrawal for your fast cash.
If you dump RM35475, 90 days include withdrawal time you gain a positive of 2% = RM709.5 , none of my network can give you an exact amount based on 360 days compound as they withdraw bit by bit start from the 90 day smile.gif

This is based on 1.5% calculation smile.gif
Remember a full withdrawal requires 90 days starting from the day you decide to withdraw it smile.gif Take that into account please as many irresponsible leaders will never advice this information  shakehead.gif

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QUOTE(Azurika @ Mar 19 2014, 02:18 PM)
Im active smile.gif But my Passive from my active surpass my passive if you understand what I mean  tongue.gif
"4th payout from Active side" ~

If you dump RM825/924 , yeah 360 days include withdrawal for your fast cash.
If you dump RM35475, 90 days include withdrawal time you gain a positive of 2% = RM709.5 , none of my network can give you an exact amount based on 360 days compound as they withdraw bit by bit start from the 90 day smile.gif

This is based on 1.5% calculation smile.gif
Remember a full withdrawal requires 90 days starting from the day you decide to withdraw it smile.gif Take that into account please as many irresponsible leaders will never advice this information  shakehead.gif

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wow...good business bro..

i'm a bit blur on the positive of 2% that you mention there. Do you mean other than the DSI payout 1.5% daily, at the end of 90 days still got extra 2%? can elaborate more?

Actually i top up USD3000 into my brother existing account. his account will reach 90 days by 24/3 then will let it continue to roll.

About the full withdrawal you mention above requires 90 days, is it mean close account? And they pay whole amount at the 90th day or split it to 30 days pay once until it finish?
other wise the withdrawal from eWallet should just take 2-3 business days right?
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wow...good business bro..

i'm a bit blur on the positive of 2% that you mention there. Do you mean other than the DSI payout 1.5% daily, at the end of 90 days still got extra 2%? can elaborate more?

Actually i top up USD3000 into my brother existing account. his account will reach 90 days by 24/3 then will let it continue to roll.

About the full withdrawal you mention above requires 90 days, is it mean close account? And they pay whole amount at the 90th day or split it to 30 days pay once until it finish?
other wise the withdrawal from eWallet should just take 2-3 business days right?
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You and your brother joined a scheme and does not know the correct method of payout ? shocking.gif
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of cos no, wont join any blindly.

i have been going through the presentation file and actually we only interested at the DSI.

just that inside the presentation file did not mention anything the 'positive 2%' that you mention.

from what the upline/reseller explain, the full withdrawal will take up to 3 months. Payment will be split into 3 and paid every month.

as you said earlier, some reseller/representative did not explain fully and that's why i asking to seek for confirmation.
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of cos no, wont join any blindly.

i have been going through the presentation file and actually we only interested at the DSI.

just that inside the presentation file did not mention anything the 'positive 2%' that you mention.

from what the upline/reseller explain, the full withdrawal will take up to 3 months. Payment will be split into 3 and paid every month.

as you said earlier, some reseller/representative did not explain fully and that's why i asking to seek for confirmation.
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Was the presentation done by Richard Lim ? Get me his name and Ill have him f**ked !
Full withdrawal takes 90 days based on your peek credits only have a 90 day cycle. You are able to withdraw EVERY day.
Positive 2% is what me and my group found out after doing certain experiments. Most jokers will only get you in fast for their passive income to grow and be done with it. You need to understand the business plan to reduce your risk. If you do not understand what is going on, how do you know when is the right time to leave ? brows.gif
I even did the calculation with my friend what happens if the DSI drops, which comes to a surprise to many.

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Was the presentation done by Richard Lim ? Get me his name and Ill have him f**ked !
Full withdrawal takes 90 days based on your peek credits only have a 90 day cycle. You are able to withdraw EVERY day.
Positive 2% is what me and my group found out after doing certain experiments.  Most jokers will only get you in fast for their passive income to grow and be done with it.  You need to understand the business plan to reduce your risk. If you do not understand what is going on, how do you know when is the right time to leave ?  brows.gif
I even did the calculation with my friend what happens if the DSI drops, which comes to a surprise to many.
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seem like you are at the higher level wor.....can F**k ppl :-P

i downloaded the presentation file directly from the website. My bro joined under his fren/upline at Penang and i'm in KL so i havent meet up with his fren/upline yet.

i hv been doing calculation of my own with best DSI payout (1.5%) to determine at which stage to withdraw some interest and get back my USD3000 first then continue to let it roll inside until it mature then make full withdrawal. hopefully DSI stays at 1.5% throughout this year.

haha...experiments some more, professional!

maybe we can meet up and you explain to me further on this? but have to let you know first that i surely can't join under you cause my money already at my bro side


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seem like you are at the higher level wor.....can F**k ppl :-P

i downloaded the presentation file directly from the website. My bro joined under his fren/upline at Penang and i'm in KL so i havent meet up with his fren/upline yet.

i hv been doing calculation of my own with best DSI payout (1.5%) to determine at which stage to withdraw some interest and get back my USD3000 first then continue to let it roll inside until it mature then make full withdrawal. hopefully DSI stays at 1.5% throughout this year.

haha...experiments some more, professional!

maybe we can meet up and you explain to me further on this? but have to let you know first that i surely can't join under you cause my money already at my bro side
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Penang ? Tony ? David ? Koay ? Mr Soh ? Botak ? Afew of the more famous leaders.
Im no higher management, but I know of the people who have the authority to do so smile.gif
Something is fishy here. You cannot top up USD3k unless you have 2 direct sponsors. Meaning you put your money in your bros account ? shocking.gif Splitting of the cash later stages can get messy smile.gif As im sure your bro might want to do monthly top up. I hope your bro created a new account for you and top up somehow. If not, hopefully you 2 are on good terms.

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Penang ? Tony ? David ? Koay ? Mr Soh ? Botak ? Afew of the more famous leaders.
Im no higher management, but I know of the people who have the authority to do so smile.gif
Something is fishy here. You cannot top up USD3k unless you have 2 direct sponsors. Meaning you put your money in your bros account ?  shocking.gif  Splitting of the cash later stages can get messy smile.gif As im sure your bro might want to do monthly top up. I hope your bro created a new account for you and top up somehow. If not, hopefully you 2 are on good terms.

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yes, i'm aware of the 2 direct sponsors. actually we join forces la using 1 account, big amount more return mah :-P

his upline manage to get him 1 direct sponsors then both of us create another new account (rm825) under his existing account so that we can do the top up. splitting the cash is ok, we base on % of money we put in n splitting the earning by % also.

we plan to top up only once, they didn't mention about monthly top up. if do monthly top up which mean every month need to get 2 direct sponsors?


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does the member need to commit a certain sales volume? In MLM terms it's called PV. MLM is not easy money. Takes alot of time and effort to build the team. MLM concept is consumer recruiting consumer. Each consumer in the organization uses the products of the company are very happy with the products. Not forcefully. If put in money and do nothing.. than a scam. must have sales.
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this is good money

my parents bought new car with profit already

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does the member need to commit a certain sales volume? In MLM terms it's called PV. MLM is not easy money. Takes alot of time and effort to build the team. MLM concept is consumer recruiting consumer. Each consumer in the organization uses the products of the company are very happy with the products. Not forcefully. If put in money and do nothing.. than a scam. must have sales.
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There is no commitment for the passive side, thats why is not guaranteed income. Its clearly stated "Up to 1.5%" on their official FB page and Website. The active side requires you to work for the numbers.
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C'mon guys, anyone with decent intelligence would have spotted the red flags. the original intention of this whole scheme was never about financial freedom (as per the website), entrepreneurship etc pple are simply leveraging on the weakness of human nature for unscrupulous gains.

do not be blinded by greed. No doubt the early birds would have diminished the risk if you are able to cash out your principle. Remember, what you are profitting over months could be hard earned savings accumulated for years to others. Look into the mirror and ask yourself whether you allow your moral value to deterioriate.

what e-mall, a plastic bottle going for 7 times more for what you could have gotten off the shelf in the supermarket. it seems highly unlikely anyone with the right frame of mind would purchase any of the items from the site.

I do admit that i was shaken atthe beginning but i hate the idea of gaining at the expense of others.
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C'mon guys, anyone with decent intelligence would have spotted the red flags. the original intention of this whole scheme was never about financial freedom (as per the website), entrepreneurship etc pple are simply leveraging on the weakness of human nature for unscrupulous gains.

do not be blinded by greed. No doubt the early birds would have diminished the risk if you are able to cash out your principle. Remember, what you are profitting over months could be hard earned savings accumulated for years to others. Look into the mirror and ask yourself whether you allow your moral value to deterioriate.

what e-mall, a plastic bottle going for 7 times more for what you could have gotten off the shelf in the supermarket. it seems highly unlikely anyone with the right frame of mind would purchase any of the items from the site.

I do admit that i was shaken atthe beginning but i hate the idea of gaining at the expense of others.
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Which industry does not follow gaining at the expense of others ? shakehead.gif
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Which industry does not follow gaining at the expense of others ?  shakehead.gif
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Every industry employs workers who trades their time and freedom for $, which makes their boss richer. Which industry does not follow this simple rule of thumb ? shakehead.gif Even banks who are legal loan sharks follow this rule which makes them richer. I do not see any successful business/company that does not leverage. icon_idea.gif
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Every industry employs workers who trades their time and freedom for $, which makes their boss richer. Which industry does not follow this simple rule of thumb ?  shakehead.gif  Even banks who are legal loan sharks follow this rule which makes them richer. I do not see any successful business/company that does not leverage.  icon_idea.gif
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ur replies clearly shows an ignorant towards the key pt. conscience
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http://www.tnp.sg/content/i-was-so-naive

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Crime/2009/09/...930011-sun.html

http://singaporemind.blogspot.sg/2009/10/m...e-scam.html?m=1

http://www.ponzitracker.com/main/2013/5/6/...an-ponzi-s.html

http://www.financetwitter.com/2012/11/how-...ings-to-do.html



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Correction,
1)Sleep Mode/Passive mode, you MIGHT earn if there is daily sales profit
2) There is quite alot of trading of products/items, and it is nothing like stock

Im not too sure about why this was mentioned
"This mean, any company with MSC status is actually and supposed to developed infrastructure and technology under the law of BoG. Instead, BossVenture.com (Cash Deal Sdn Bhd) had misconducted BoG to run a business under MLM scheme."
Kindly do let us know why you think they are not developing infrastructured and technology ?
It will be on Friday  icon_rolleyes.gif
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i dont understand the 1 highlighted

RM825 is the entry amount. to have the principle back you need 7 month. unless you add another USD 30 for 6 months.

Right?
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Every industry employs workers who trades their time and freedom for $, which makes their boss richer. Which industry does not follow this simple rule of thumb ?  shakehead.gif  Even banks who are legal loan sharks follow this rule which makes them richer. I do not see any successful business/company that does not leverage.  icon_idea.gif
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OK...!! bank is different case. I know that your fact is right.. that is one of the way bank work.. Bank diversify and I don think the cashdeal owned boss venture can do that.. Bank has stock, investment, properties, fixed depost . the problem here is the bank is using interest instead of pyramid scheme pyramid scheme.. Boss venture do not have brand, financial report, investment, properties.. stock game.

MLM is very different with pyramid scheme because.. the company has to be like marykay with thousand employees and registered, recognised, popular brand and has distinctive research on the product ..They roll out MLM which is legal.. because they have backbone to pay member of MLM.

boss venture can be MLM but term changed to pyramid scheme.. It is likely unsustainable.. the term changed because they do not have investment, properties, fixed asset that grow in value.. They sell products... just like a local groceries store.. did you seen local groceries store open up pyramid scheme?? distinctive products?? I don think they had one or they could simply make one..

boss venture is like an investment and short-term.. the risk is higher you could jeopardise capital injection I mean they really will suck all your capital your money invested because they don guarantee anything.. but it seem it will stay longer with all those legal documents..

The problem with boss venture what is it financial status? if it like a bank it must have financial status and CEO that will show up in local public conference if something happened !! . The most significant and attractive thing of pyramid scheme is whether it will grow strongly and become a legitimate company?? or it will likely to burst??

As long people live and get interested and move their money to one institution it will live !! but, few years later, you still think no one will develop a better pyramid scheme?? when the time come, one pyramid scheme will take over another and it will become memory !!

It seem like a hypnotizing business.. let call it hypnotized pyramid scheme.. You will forget your money lost to them !! as investment is seem like to agree with that.. Investment risky right !




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this is good money

my parents bought new car with profit already
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then GO AHEAD lor.

you THINK only this way can earn money.
when company DEFAULT, that's your GREAT day.
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then GO AHEAD lor.

you THINK only this way can earn money.
when company DEFAULT, that's your GREAT day.
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already make back investment why bother if default ?
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then GO AHEAD lor.

you THINK only this way can earn money.
when company DEFAULT, that's your GREAT day.
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Already cashed out more then what is put in icon_idea.gif
If it Default, so be it. If it sustain for another 7 years, it adds to my positive cash flow.
High risk, high return. Low risk, low return ~
Never believe in high risk unless you can afford to lose it.
Anyway for us who put in USD10k, 4 months give us a return of > 10% profit

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lalalallalaa..

just relax at home and wait the income..

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A successful MLM company will Invest in Product before Invest in Marketing ....

If the company just use $$ to attract you instead of their products , Becareful ...

If the the company ask you to invest first then they will work out the products , also becareful , if they cant work it out ... they will just grap all investor money and run away ...

MLM is proved workable if the company use it correctly ...

But still need to depands on the company what they selling ...

What is the company marketing plan ...

is it the company marketing plan can run in long term ?


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A successful MLM company will Invest in Product before Invest in Marketing ....

If the company just use $$ to attract you instead of their products , Becareful ...

If the the company ask you to invest first then they will work out the products , also becareful , if they cant work it out ... they will just grap all investor money and run away ...

MLM is proved workable if the company use it correctly ...

But still need to depands on the company what they selling ...

What is the company marketing plan ...

is it the company marketing plan can run in long term ?
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>10 years, they will face issues of over paying wink.gif
Currently in their 4th year, so still save for minimum 1-2 years playing conservative.
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>10 years, they will face issues of over paying  wink.gif
Currently in their 4th year, so still save for minimum 1-2 years playing conservative.
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Haha , i think so .... rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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got another 'old' friend pmed via FB to meet up and wanna 'share' this opportunities lol. initial money needed is RM 5775

no way in hell i wana spend money on this and worst, goin to go and lurk for victims. yea they said can earn passively, but if thats true, why would i primary school friend suddenly pm u and ask to meet up?
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got another 'old' friend pmed via FB to meet up and wanna 'share' this opportunities lol. initial money needed is RM 5775

no way in hell i wana spend money on this and worst, goin to go and lurk for victims. yea they said can earn passively, but if thats true, why would i primary school friend suddenly pm u and ask to meet up?
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Come come, start up RM825 I help sign you up ~ No need hassle meetup which is money in terms of time, petrol, car park, and a cup of coffee ~ brows.gif

But if he already said meet up to discuss this, should be no problem wat ~ The issue comes when he ask you to lim teh, but when you arrive, he sits there with a laptop open doh.gif
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Already cashed out more then what is put in  icon_idea.gif
If it Default, so be it. If it sustain for another 7 years, it adds to my positive cash flow.
High risk, high return. Low risk, low return ~
Never believe in high risk unless you can afford to lose it.
Anyway for us who put in USD10k, 4 months give us a return of > 10% profit

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That mean after 4 month got 11usd back?

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That mean after 4 month got 11usd back?
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U said got >10% profit from 10k usd after 4 month. That mean get 10k and 1k profit. Total 11kusd. Now please show me your maths
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U said got >10% profit from 10k usd after 4 month. That mean get 10k and 1k profit. Total 11kusd. Now please show me your maths
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U said USD11 not USD 11k or 1k shakehead.gif
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May I know is Bossventure really making money for investor?
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U said USD11 not USD 11k or 1k  shakehead.gif
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Already in BNM red list. Shouldnt be long before it closed out. Now Bnm is making plan to raid and windle everything up like geneva and other ponzi scheme.

My advice: take out your money before it is gone

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Already in BNM red list. Shouldnt be long before it closed out. Now Bnm is making plan to raid and windle everything up like geneva and other ponzi scheme.

My advice: take out your money before it is gone
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Its in BNM list for being assumed as a Investment company due to unethical advertisements by unethical members. You will not see a word of investment in the official company website, slides or anything link to them.

Many of the accounts which are link to false ad's has been terminated.

Sometimes is not the company, but rather the people who make it look like dirt.
Thats what happening with World Venture wink.gif

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Its in BNM list for being assumed as a Investment company due to unethical advertisements by unethical members. You will not see a word of investment in the official company website, slides or anything link to them.

Many of the accounts which are link to false ad's has been terminated.

Sometimes is not the company, but rather the people who make it look like dirt.
Thats what happening with World Venture  wink.gif
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Bro, if you still has money inside, get it out and run away far far

BNM won't blacklist a company for nothing. If BNM put my company inside their alert list by mistake, I will sue them until they lose their pants. Why those companies in the blacklist never sue BNM ? Because they have shit inside lah
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Its in BNM list for being assumed as a Investment company due to unethical advertisements by unethical members. You will not see a word of investment in the official company website, slides or anything link to them.

Many of the accounts which are link to false ad's has been terminated.

Sometimes is not the company, but rather the people who make it look like dirt.
Thats what happening with World Venture  wink.gif
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When geneva in bnm list last time, some forummers told me 'it is not going to be closed because gold is legal trade'. And now you see it is actually closed.

As i say, if bv is really a legit company, they should go for public offering instead of getting money through ponzi scheme. Time will be your experience mate
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taking new investor money to pay old investor, isn't this is how our EPF works? it's been working for many years.
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Bro, if you still has money inside, get it out and run away far far

BNM won't blacklist a company for nothing. If BNM put my company inside their alert list by mistake, I will sue them until they lose their pants. Why those companies in the blacklist never sue BNM ? Because they have shit inside lah
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I have cashed out more then what I have put in with interest, hence whatever thats inside is a bonus if the company sustain. There are reasons why I dare park my money inside for this duration wink.gif
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I have cashed out more then what I have put in with interest, hence whatever thats inside is a bonus if the company sustain. There are reasons why I dare park my money inside for this duration  wink.gif
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Do you still recommend others to "invest" in this company ?
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I do not recommend others to "Invest" as this is not an investment.
If people ask me on investment, I will share with them other investment schemes laugh.gif

If people ask me about BV, Id just tell them on the basic potential 1 year payout, and the high risk involve.
You will be surprise I spend more time in my F2F presentation talking about the risk, rather then the returns biggrin.gif as I believe in Karma, and you have to join in your own free will and not persuaded by me wink.gif Till today, I have actually not personally approach people on BV, my whole network is people approaching me biggrin.gif


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I do not recommend others to "Invest" as this is not an investment.
If people ask me on investment, I will share with them other investment schemes  laugh.gif

If people ask me about BV, Id just tell them on the basic potential 1 year payout, and the high risk involve.
You will be surprise I spend more time in my F2F presentation talking about the risk, rather then the returns biggrin.gif as I believe in Karma, and you have to join in your own free will and not persuaded by me wink.gif Till today, I have actually not personally approach people on BV, my whole network is people approaching me biggrin.gif
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I hope you will just tell people that BV is not worth the risk. Bank Negara already warn everybody.
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Given is worth or not worth the risk is not for me to decide but theirs wink.gif its unethical to make decisions for others. We can only share with them the correct information regarding it. wink.gif
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Can u recommend me any investment that really can be trust
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Given is worth or not worth the risk is not for me to decide but theirs wink.gif its unethical to make decisions for others. We can only share with them the correct information regarding it.  wink.gif
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Come on. Just be a straight forward person and tell them the truth
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Before u ask about the money...atleast give me a brief description about the investment plan
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haiz many sohai here talk about boss venture who zero understanding try to get bad image this business. U get ALL WRONG INFO!!! WRONG WRONG WRONG! They have thing called dsi value for 100 dsi value for u to start "compound"understand meaning compound first before talk any crap.later someone say me one month earn RM 144.09 what for. In the end i piss off don't let him join. if u put dsi 100% setting everyday once u join u sure will suffer losses cant earn back modal. Note is a business not your thing you say is investment la....and so on la....The truth is they are online and offline shoping company. Their revenue sales shared to reseller (joiner). Other source of income is when user buy peek credit they earn from there and shared to reseller. So standard recommended by bossventure is that compound for 9 month. then setting to earn dsi . So everyday u earn 30 usd per day. If u dont understand anything dont talk crap before u join. More i see u people.the more i piss off. One more thing u sohai people. Company do aware listed in alert list.here what they say i direct copy and post at here. OPEN YOUR EYE WIDE AND READ! mad.gif :..if dont understand reread.until u understand...boss venture have lisence but not lisence for investment because they are not investment company...u think they trade forex commodity stock for u ha?!?! sohai...they are online shoping and offline shoping company la u fool! vmad.gif

Please be informed that we are aware of our contracted management company Cash Deal Sdn Bhd is being placed in the "Alert List" in BNM website. As stated very clearly by BNM, the list is just an answering guide to the public with reference to the numerous requests on whether Cash Deal Sdn Bhd is being given the license to operate an 'investment' scheme. Cash Deal Sdn Bhd is listed under 'unlicensed activities' by BNM which means to say that Cash Deal Sdn Bhd is NOT licensed by BNM for this 'investment' scheme. Clearly mentioned, the listing situation arises because of the numerous requests to BNM seeking clarifications on our business activities (perceived as investment) that probably arises from possible misrepresentation and misperception by Resellers or 3rd parties with ulterior motives of slandering our business. We are indeed happy that BNM did a good job in telling the public of our actual business activities and put to rest further unnecessary requests with regards to this matter. For your information, please take note that indeed from the start of our business operation via www.bossventure.com, we have and never will apply or qualify to apply for an 'investment' license with BNM due to the fact that our structured business has never been an investment link business per say. All our incentives payout are strictly being based on the collective efforts of sales performances and is neither fixed nor guaranteed by the Company in anyway. For our business operations, Cash Deal Sdn Bhd is legally registered with Suruhanjaya Syarikat Malaysia (SSM) under the business model applications of online shopping under the Company Registration Number 929192-K and is given the Multimedia Super Corridor (MSC) License No. 2695 in view of our unique creation of Digital Neural Application (DNA) for our peek-to-save shopping model by our in-house IT team. However, to prevent any further misrepresentations by Resellers, we will be taking a serious approach to terminate or suspend any Reseller(s) caught promoting our business in blogs, related websites, presentation formats and other medias that wrongly promote our business as an 'investment' scheme without using our official documents, tutorial videos or presentations found in our official website ie. www.bossventure.com To all Resellers who have done or have been promoting the bossventure business using their own materials, you are REQUESTED IMMEDIATELY TO TAKE ACTION BY REMOVING SUCH MATERIALS FROM THE SITE, failing which your Reseller(s) accounts will be suspended or terminated immediately by the Company without any warning or whatsoever. Thank you for your kind attention and co-operation. From the Top Management

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haiz many sohai here talk about boss venture who zero understanding try to get bad image this business. U get ALL WRONG INFO!!! WRONG WRONG WRONG! They have thing called dsi value for 100 dsi value for u to start "compound"understand meaning compound first before talk any crap.later someone say me one month earn RM 144.09 what for. In the end i piss off don't let him join. if u put dsi 100% setting everyday once u join u sure will suffer losses cant earn back modal. Note is a business not your thing you say is investment la....and so on la....The truth is they are online and offline shoping company. Their revenue sales shared to reseller (joiner). Other source of income is when user buy peek credit they earn from there and shared to reseller. So standard recommended by bossventure is that compound for 9 month. then setting to earn dsi . So everyday u earn 30 usd per day. If u dont understand anything dont talk crap before u join. More i see u people.the more i piss off.
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I believe you if you tell me what they sell online? What their main product? Their main product is recruit more people and do advertising right??
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I believe you if you tell me what they sell online? What their main product? Their main product is recruit more people and do advertising right??
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here another try to make the company look bad.......i got boss venture company number DARE DARE CALL! 03-7722 3512 .if call one time cannot connect call several time because got 500,000 reseller nowadays calling them.so ask until u satisfy! vmad.gif note i have make early withdraw to test them is scam or not. For asking people for compounding 9 month that long period. so i dont follow their recommendation for compounding 9 month ...i just compounding 3 month I put dsi 100% i earn daily 3++ usd for one account.i got 4 account to withdraw all those bonus..and my account still not dead even expired? why because there is dsi value in there left amount compounding bigger than minus the expired dsi value. Total i have withdraw is 500++ because i withdraw early earn not big. i give an example for reality. real person experience from boss venture. Ya they do got problem when withdraw for me when put withdraw because technical issue. I tot they lying after 3 weeks they entered my account. After not end yet. I make another withdraw to test them my 5th withdraw also success. U sell stuff got main product de meh online? who knows? they sell everything from electrical appliances and so on....offline shoping mall sure sell more. because more convenient to people. they dont focus recruit. Is your choice if u want to build network or not. If u say they focus on recruit how i earn back part of my modal...i still in process earn back my modal.i just joined since last year 2013 dec 9...attactment below shows my withdrawment prove. if they are scam company what for they so free send me few amount for money....too leisure ha? I no recruit people also. I just open 4 account sleep at there.

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here another try to make the company look bad.......i got boss venture company number DARE DARE CALL! 03-7722 3512 .if call one time cannot connect call several time because got 500,000 reseller nowadays calling them.so ask until u satisfy! vmad.gif 

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have u call bnm ? and ask them? ask them why they put in alert list? they no done illegal thing by selling goods.... you call them why need me call them..need answer is u not me...craping out of boss venture is u not me....anyway u try call bnm ...ask them all the reason everything u need record their talking post at here....or write at here.....because some people listen something say different thing maybe they are uneducated in langauge and so on like in dota 2 pinoy...caveman... rclxms.gif

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have u call bnm ? and ask them? ask them why they put in alert list? they no done illegal thing by selling goods.... you call them why need me call them..need answer is u not me...craping out of boss venture is u not me....anyway u try call bnm ...ask them all the reason everything u need record their talking post at here....or write at here.....because some people listen something say different thing maybe they are uneducated in langauge and so on like in dota 2 pinoy...caveman... rclxms.gif
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have u call bnm ? and ask them? ask them why they put in alert list? they no done illegal thing by selling goods.... you call them why need me call them..need answer is u not me...craping out of boss venture is u not me....anyway u try call bnm ...ask them all the reason everything u need record their talking post at here....or write at here.....because some people listen something say different thing maybe they are uneducated in langauge and so on like in dota 2 pinoy...caveman... rclxms.gif
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you believe it because you have invested a lot
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what is the time do you call?
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anyway hope they raid soon. have u check smm and msc site? they are registered.
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The BNM malay lady I spoke to told me usually they will give some time for the blacklisted company's customer to claim back money from the company. If they raid now, all asset will be freezed immediately. So all customers' money will be stucked inside the company. BNM prosecution process will take years, so the customer's money will be as good as gone.

By blacklisting the company, BNM alert the customer their money is in danger. They still have a chance to go to the company and ask for refund. She told me that is the best practice because the customers' chance of getting back the money is the best. Usually the blacklisted company will bankrupt by itself because nobody will trust them anymore. So those customers who still believe the business is legit are the ones who will lose everything

If you still have money in the company, faster go claim back while waiting for BNM to raid. Once they raid, your money is as cold as water
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have u call bnm ? and ask them? ask them why they put in alert list? they no done illegal thing by selling goods.... you call them why need me call them..need answer is u not me...craping out of boss venture is u not me....anyway u try call bnm ...ask them all the reason everything u need record their talking post at here....or write at here.....because some people listen something say different thing maybe they are uneducated in langauge and so on like in dota 2 pinoy...caveman... rclxms.gif
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i am very sure i would trust BNM more. smile.gif
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i wanna join.. who wanna recruit me
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3 months compound with 300+ daily ? 10k peek credit user spotted.
But thats very little draw out for a 10k user who started in Dec
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3 months compound with 300+ daily ? 10k peek credit user spotted.
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no la i got write 300 daily meh? reread my post please...andi write 30 daily compounded 9 month....haiz poor guy cannot read.
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no la i got write 300 daily meh? reread my post please...andi write 30 daily compounded 9 month....haiz poor guy cannot read.
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here another try to make the company look bad.......i got boss venture company number DARE DARE CALL! 03-7722 3512 .if call one time cannot connect call several time because got 500,000 reseller nowadays calling them.so ask until u satisfy! vmad.gif  note i have make early withdraw to test them is scam or not. For asking people for compounding 9 month that long period. so i dont follow their recommendation for compounding 9 month ...i just compounding 3 month I put dsi 100% i earn daily 3++ usd for one account.i got 4 account to withdraw all those bonus..and my account still not dead even expired? why because there is dsi value in there left amount compounding bigger than minus the expired dsi value. Total i have withdraw is 500++ because i withdraw early earn not big. i give an example for reality. real person experience from boss venture. Ya they do got problem when withdraw for me when put withdraw because technical issue. I tot they lying after 3 weeks they entered my account. After not end yet. I make another withdraw to test them my 5th withdraw also success. U sell stuff  got main product de meh online? who knows? they sell everything from electrical appliances and so on....offline shoping mall sure sell more. because more convenient to people. they dont focus recruit. Is your choice if u want to build network or not. If u say they focus on recruit how i earn back part of my modal...i still in process earn back my modal.i just joined since last year 2013 dec 9...attactment below shows my withdrawment prove. if they are scam company what for they so free send me few amount for money....too leisure ha? I no recruit people also. I just open 4 account sleep at there.
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no la i got write 300 daily meh? reread my post please...andi write 30 daily compounded 9 month....haiz poor guy cannot read.
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Sorry, but I cant comprehend your poor sense of english.
And opening 4 accounts is inefficient, as you could have top up the balance to your first account, unless it has already been top up with USD10k wink.gif
This however is a different story if your a net-worker, which clearly in your statement says no.
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Sorry, but I cant comprehend your poor sense of english.
And opening 4 accounts is inefficient, as  you could have top up the balance to your first account, unless it has already been top up with USD10k  wink.gif
This however is a different story if your a net-worker, which clearly in your statement says no.
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3.XX something behind lar..if u so good comment people english then u correct it then...your english also poor. so shut the f*** up/
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3.xx after 3 months with a 4 accounts user ? shakehead.gif What kind of leaders do you have over there ?
Need to sit down with Richard to discuss Miri market if thats what is happening over there this weekend. doh.gif

PS: Flames do not encourage yourself nor the company to shine wink.gif
I have already gotten a decent amount of signup in LYN by showing facts in a fair manner.

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3.xx after 3 months with a 4 accounts user ?  shakehead.gif  What kind of leaders do you have over there ?
Need to sit down with Richard to discuss Miri market if thats what is happening over there this weekend.  doh.gif

PS: Flames do not encourage yourself nor the company to shine  wink.gif
I have already gotten a decent amount of signup in LYN  by showing facts in a fair manner.
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Azurika, hope when you are recruiting for BV, the first advice to your potential recruit will be to ask them to call Bank Negara personally  tongue.gif
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Well, I did tell them it is listed under black list wink.gif
They call or not is another story, some paid up, some didnt.
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Well, I did tell them it is listed under black list  wink.gif
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Why would you still accept recruitment knowing the company will fold very soon ? That would seriously damage your own reputation later. Is money more important than your long term reputation ?
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Why would you still accept recruitment knowing the company will fold very soon ? That would seriously damage your own reputation later. Is money more important than your long term reputation ?
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Personally, I have reasons that company will not fold yet. And my team would have obtain their money before anything happens. We have a formula to at least get ROI in the shortest time tongue.gif
And my reputation is only tainted IF I didnt not warn you of all these possibilities. I warn you of the risk, is up to you to take it or not. Is like going for a surgery with 50/50 chance. The doctor already warn you of possible death, and you still take the chance, the family going to blame the doctor ? Its only a problem when you force money from people, or leave out information, or worse fake it.
And I do not recruit, people ask me on their own will and ask me to get them in.
Did u know I turn down some of the old aunties which wants to cash in their entire savings ? I told them just go for basic, keep their savings in other location. wink.gif

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Personally, I have reasons that company will not fold yet.  And my team would have obtain their money before anything happens. We have a formula to at least get ROI in the shortest time tongue.gif
And my reputation is only tainted IF I didnt not warn you of all these possibilities. I warn you of the risk, is up to you to take it or not. Is like going for a surgery with 50/50 chance. The doctor already warn you of possible death, and you still take the chance, the family going to blame the doctor ? Its only a problem when you force money from people, or leave out information, or worse fake it.
And I do not recruit, people ask me on their own will and ask me to get them in.
Did u know I turn down some of the old aunties which wants to cash in their entire savings ? I told them just go for basic, keep their savings in other location.  wink.gif
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But, the doctor (Bank Negara) has already diagnosed the patient (Boss Venture) is terminally ill. It is just a matter of time the patient will die. You still tell the patient's family got 50-50 chance doh.gif

Friend, have some mercy. Even if people come to you to ask on their own will, you should just tell them there are better opportunity elsewhere

Of course unless you have everything to gain monetarily. Then just tell me you are only after their money, and I will stfu tongue.gif
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But, the doctor (Bank Negara) has already diagnosed the patient (Boss Venture) is terminally ill. It is just a matter of time the patient will die. You still tell the patient's family got 50-50 chance  doh.gif

Friend, have some mercy. Even if people come to you to ask on their own will, you should just tell them there are better opportunity elsewhere

Of course unless you have everything to gain monetarily. Then just tell me you are only after their money, and I will stfu  tongue.gif
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I have never told them is 50/50 chance ~ thats just an example sweat.gif

Personally I think is a good opportunity , IF you can afford to lose the money you put in. In some sense its like gambling when I explain to the aunties. You put your money in a jackpot and you roll, you risk losing it , or gain some. Next you double it, risking what you have, but chance to grow even more, and the RISK gets HIGHER.

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I have never told them is 50/50 chance ~ thats just an example  sweat.gif 

Personally I think is a good opportunity , IF you can afford to lose the money you put in. In some sense its like gambling when I explain to the aunties. You put your money in a jackpot and you roll, you risk losing it , or gain some. Next you double it, risking what you have, but chance to grow even more, and the RISK gets HIGHER.
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Ok lah, obviously you are after their money even though the company has been sentenced to death by Bank Negara

You are no different compare to those famous Genneva gold agents notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
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Ok lah, obviously you are after their money even though the company has been sentenced to death by Bank Negara

You are no different compare to those famous Genneva gold agents  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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Thanks

We will see who gets the last laugh by end of this year smile.gif
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Thanks

We will see who gets the last laugh by end of this year  smile.gif
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I think Genneva agents said the same thing tongue.gif
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I think Genneva agents said the same thing  tongue.gif
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I know, in the end thats the truth right ? Im im right, ill be laughing and many will regret doubting the company so much. If im wrong, you will be laughing , and everybody trolling that im a scammer, no ? laugh.gif
Sorry but I have been with 2 pioneer MLM companies, and I have proven both right 2 my clients and friends and Im hoping to see a 3rd tongue.gif

Speaking of Genneva, I was never their agent as 1 of my uncle trades gold from the middle east, hence he told me is impossible for them to pay that rate based on ONLY gold appreciation rate.
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I know, in the end thats the truth right ? Im im right, ill be laughing and many will regret doubting the company so much. If im wrong, you will be laughing , and everybody trolling that im a scammer, no ?  laugh.gif
Sorry but I have been with 2 pioneer MLM companies, and I have proven both right 2 my clients and friends and Im hoping to see a 3rd  tongue.gif

Speaking of Genneva, I was never their agent as 1 of my uncle trades gold from the middle east, hence he told me is impossible for them to pay that rate based on ONLY gold appreciation rate.
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Ya, to you and me, who is right, who is wrong doesn't matter. I don't earn anything from it. I only get entertainment and pass my free time for posting here. For you, you have earned your commission. Maybe a few thousand or tens of thousand a month ? I don't know. Apparently you care less about your reputation so that also doesn't matter.

At the end, even if the company is a scam, it doesn't matter to both of us. Your money in the pocket already. And I got entertained already. Both of us happy.

Whose money at stake ? Your client lor. They believed your words and "invest" in a blacklisted company. Their money matters. But who cares, right ? tongue.gif


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Ya, to you and me, who is right, who is wrong doesn't matter. I don't earn anything from it. I only get entertainment and pass my free time for posting here. For you, you have earned your commission. Maybe a few thousand or tens of thousand a month ? I don't know. Apparently you care less about your reputation so that also doesn't matter.

At the end, even if the company is a scam, it doesn't matter to both of us. Your money in the pocket already. And I got entertained already. Both of us happy.

Whose money at stake ? Your client lor. They believed your words and "invest" in a blacklisted company. Their money matters. But who cares, right ?  tongue.gif
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Oh I care as I manage some of their other wealth in other investments, and many are my business partners for different ventures wink.gif
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Oh I care as I manage some of their other wealth in other investments, and many are my business partners for different ventures  wink.gif
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Wow, then your reputation is at risk man. When Boss Venture get raided, your client will sure blame you. Even when at that time you clearly explain to them. Think clearly my friend of the consequences. Clients always forget what you told them when they lose money
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Wow, then your reputation is at risk man. When Boss Venture get raided, your client will sure blame you. Even when at that time you clearly explain to them. Think clearly my friend of the consequences. Clients always forget what you told them when they lose money
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Thanks for the advice wink.gif
But Im sticking to what I chose for my reasons to believe it will still sustain currently.
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Thanks for the advice  wink.gif
But Im sticking to what I chose for my reasons to believe it will still sustain currently.
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If it will sustain, it should be a legitimate business. Then you should get the company to sue Bank Negara for tarnishing the good name of the company. Get the best lawyer. That should do the trick to BNM. If BNM still doesn't budge, make noise in newspaper and online, get all customers and agents to protest in front of bank negara, camp there and make a scene. Until Bank Negara take down the company's name in blacklist.

Taking legal action is what a normal company will do. If the company give excuses and avoid legal actions, then it should have already rung a bell and raised a big red flag to you

Ah....again I think I am wasting my time here. You are the agent and intend to continue earning the commission, so you will shut your mind off to any adverse comment about the company tongue.gif
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If it will sustain, it should be a legitimate business. Then you should get the company to sue Bank Negara for tarnishing the good name of the company. Get the best lawyer. That should do the trick to BNM. If BNM still doesn't budge, make noise in newspaper and online, get all customers and agents to protest in front of bank negara, camp there and make a scene. Until Bank Negara take down the company's name in blacklist.

Taking legal action is what a normal company will do. If the company give excuses and avoid legal actions, then it should have already rung a bell and raised a big red flag to you

Ah....again I think I am wasting my time here. You are the agent and intend to continue earning the commission, so you will shut your mind off to any adverse comment about the company  tongue.gif
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It is not easy to take action against BNM. In Geneva's case, hundreds of their agents and customers wanted to sue BNM, but no lawyer dare to take their case. The lawyers just told them, it would be a lost case. This being BNM is somewhat governed by the government and hence, how can someone sue the government within the country's constitution? I'm not attached to Geneva in anyway but I did know the internal news from both Geneva and BNM on this Geneva story.

In a nutshell, this is Malaysia. The grey area does exist here.

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It is not easy to take action against BNM. In Geneva's case, hundreds of their agents and customers wanted to sue BNM, but no lawyer dare to take their case. The lawyers just told them, it would be a lost case. This being BNM is somewhat governed by the government and hence, how can someone sue the government within the country's constitution? I'm not attached to Geneva in anyway but I did know the internal news from both Geneva and BNM on this Geneva story.

In a nutshell, this is Malaysia. The grey area does exist here.
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The lawyers are absolutely correct. Those in the black list will lose the case even if they go to court. BNM won't simply put a legit company in the list. The fact that Boss Venture don't go the legal route is because "their body got shit".

Those "BNM is government, cannot sue" are just excuses to con potential investors who are uneducated.

Bank Negara warned the "investors" of Genneva and in the end people have been burnt in Genneva case. Now Bank Negara also warned "investors" of Boss Venture. Still no scared ?
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Bank Negara warned the "investors" of Genneva and in the end people have been burnt in Genneva case. Now Bank Negara also warned "investors" of Boss Venture. Still no scared ?
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Dont get me wrong, but I'm not defending neither Geneva nor BossVenture.

I believed whichever company is under BNM's watchlist will definitely end up in either of these 2 scenarios; 1. The owners of the company, will pack up and abandon company once they have collected enough "funds", or 2. BNM will step up and close down the company, freezing all assets and what not.

There have been many cases of the latter which the public are unaware of. Geneva made it into the headline only because it was too big and too many was involved, thus, the "need" to publish it as a major headliner news to appease the public.

Anyway, I'll give it few more months before we hear about fate of BossVenture.
Good luck to those involved in it!

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Bank Negara warned the "investors" of Genneva and in the end people have been burnt in Genneva case. Now Bank Negara also warned "investors" of Boss Venture. Still no scared ?
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On a sidenote, I would like to add that BNM just added Geneva (M) Sdn Bhd to the watchlist, merely months (I believed it is somewhere between 3-5 months) prior to the raid. And BNM actually raided the same business, called Geneva Sdn Bhd, 3 years ago, on the basis of money laundering. Yes, that's 2 different company NAME but ran by the same management. Geneva (M) S/B started operation a few months after Geneva S/B was raided.

That is exactly why the public were so angered about why BNM didn't do something about Geneva (M) S/B since 3 years ago. Surely BNM knows about its existence then.

And the one you heard in the news about the court hearing, (1 month after Geneva (M) was raided), is actually Geneva S/B. The first one that was raided 3 years ago, not the recent one.

Funny eh?
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On a sidenote, I would like to add that BNM just added Geneva (M) Sdn Bhd to the watchlist, merely months (I believed it is somewhere between 3-5 months) prior to the raid. And BNM actually raided the same business, called Geneva Sdn Bhd, 3 years ago, on the basis of money laundering. Yes, that's 2 different company NAME but ran by the same management. Geneva (M) S/B started operation a few months after Geneva S/B was raided.

That is exactly why the public were so angered about why BNM didn't do something about Geneva (M) S/B since 3 years ago. Surely BNM knows about its existence then.

And the one you heard in the news about the court hearing, (1 month after Geneva (M) was raided), is actually Geneva S/B. The first one that was raided 3 years ago, not the recent one.

Funny eh?
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Yes, funny to me too.

But I guess those who loss money in Genneva didn't find it funny at all. And the BV customers will not find it funny too when BNM raid the company tongue.gif
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Yes, funny to me too.

But I guess those who loss money in Genneva didn't find it funny at all. And the BV customers will not find it funny too when BNM raid the company  tongue.gif
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Yeah! LOL biggrin.gif

The Bosses of BV will definitely pack up soon and cabut!

I've checked their website, they claim to be a company from Samoa Island. But further checks on bossventure.com and bvmalls.com showed that both are registered under Mr. Richard Lim. I assumed he's a Malaysian but setup a company overseas so that he can transfer all the millions into the bank account there, where Malaysian government has no authority to freeze it!

He's already made his getaway batmobile plan even before he started the business! Genius!
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I know this is too late to reply on the thread but I found this interesting.

The start up cost is RM825 or USD250 (250x 3.3).  You are paying for the franchise fee to become the company Reseller Licensee not enrollment fee.

How do you make money staying passive?

From the USD250, USD100 is used to buy peek credits that will generate up to 1.5% daily payment known as Daily Sales Incentive.  No sponsoring is necessary to earn from the business because of revenue sharing concept.

The company allocates 20% of its global daily sales from peek credits and physical products from its e-Mall - BVMalls.Com to be shared by their resellers as Daily Sales Incentive.  Now, if they can pay up to 1.5% daily from the 20% allocation, the global daily sales volume must be huge. 

What is peek credit?  It is a discount value that can be used for shopping at the online mall.  Why is it valuable?  Because you cannot shop at the mall without buying peek credits.  You use peek credits to buy things.  Who says it is money game?

Top up here means to buy peek credits so that your Daily Sales Incentive value will increase.  Istead of getting USD1.50 daily, you will get more.  The minimum top up is USD500 and max is USD10,000.  Does get rich quick scheme have max amount?

The USD30 top up is for a reseller to qualify for the earn 3% overriding incentives from their referrals Daily Sales Incentive earnings.

Although the network marketing plan is based on binary system BUT they incorporate 5 x 5 matrix plan to prevent the build up of the so called pyramid system.  That means you can only have a total of 3905 people in your network.  And 5x5 matrix will give you a clear indication of your potential income.  So, this is not a pyramid scheme.

As for Cash Deal Sdn Bhd MSC status I don't think they misused the status at all because the company core activities as per MSC registration are Research, development and commercialization of Digital Neural Application (D.N.A) and e-Mall Solution.

They helped developed BossVenture online mall BVMalls.Com, which is within their core activities.

Will this be another Geneva, American Euro Index, Swiss Cash, Mirza? 

Well, for sure those mentioned above either does not have a license to take deposit from the public or not licensed to manage other people money. 

ONLY licensed commercial banks can take deposits from the public.  And ONLY licensed investment company can invest people money. 

They need license from Bank Negara Malaysia and Security Commissions, which this case those companies DOES NOT have therefore deemed Get RICH Quick Scheme.  That's WHY they are closed down!  Ha ha ha..
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very well said .. I am a member I can validate this is accurate and correct, a lot of other misunderstand the company ... bravo rymkk thumbup.gif
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On a sidenote, I would like to add that BNM just added Geneva (M) Sdn Bhd to the watchlist, merely months (I believed it is somewhere between 3-5 months) prior to the raid. And BNM actually raided the same business, called Geneva Sdn Bhd, 3 years ago, on the basis of money laundering. Yes, that's 2 different company NAME but ran by the same management. Geneva (M) S/B started operation a few months after Geneva S/B was raided.

That is exactly why the public were so angered about why BNM didn't do something about Geneva (M) S/B since 3 years ago. Surely BNM knows about its existence then.

And the one you heard in the news about the court hearing, (1 month after Geneva (M) was raided), is actually Geneva S/B. The first one that was raided 3 years ago, not the recent one.

Funny eh?
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mansonloo, can you explain about surewin4u which already been added and it had operating since 2011 and still alive and kicking... and got friend put in rm25k and got back rm75k
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If it will sustain, it should be a legitimate business. Then you should get the company to sue Bank Negara for tarnishing the good name of the company. Get the best lawyer. That should do the trick to BNM. If BNM still doesn't budge, make noise in newspaper and online, get all customers and agents to protest in front of bank negara, camp there and make a scene. Until Bank Negara take down the company's name in blacklist.

Taking legal action is what a normal company will do. If the company give excuses and avoid legal actions, then it should have already rung a bell and raised a big red flag to you

Ah....again I think I am wasting my time here. You are the agent and intend to continue earning the commission, so you will shut your mind off to any adverse comment about the company  tongue.gif
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Please show understanding that in the BNM list doesnt mean blacklist ... it is saying as unlicensed activity which the company already clarify , this is not investment company .. so there is no license or will bossventure try to get license from bank negara.. no, this is an IT company which need no bank negara approval...
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here another try to make the company look bad.......i got boss venture company number DARE DARE CALL! 03-7722 3512 .if call one time cannot connect call several time because got 500,000 reseller nowadays calling them.so ask until u satisfy! vmad.gif  note i have make early withdraw to test them is scam or not. For asking people for compounding 9 month that long period. so i dont follow their recommendation for compounding 9 month ...i just compounding 3 month I put dsi 100% i earn daily 3++ usd for one account.i got 4 account to withdraw all those bonus..and my account still not dead even expired? why because there is dsi value in there left amount compounding bigger than minus the expired dsi value. Total i have withdraw is 500++ because i withdraw early earn not big. i give an example for reality. real person experience from boss venture. Ya they do got problem when withdraw for me when put withdraw because technical issue. I tot they lying after 3 weeks they entered my account. After not end yet. I make another withdraw to test them my 5th withdraw also success. U sell stuff  got main product de meh online? who knows? they sell everything from electrical appliances and so on....offline shoping mall sure sell more. because more convenient to people. they dont focus recruit. Is your choice if u want to build network or not. If u say they focus on recruit how i earn back part of my modal...i still in process earn back my modal.i just joined since last year 2013 dec 9...attactment below shows my withdrawment prove. if they are scam company what for they so free send me few amount for money....too leisure ha? I no recruit people also. I just open 4 account sleep at there.
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I have tried buying items and 4 of the transactions gone through and I received all the items...
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I have tried buying items and 4 of the transactions gone through and I received all the items...
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In the end, I think there is no point arguing about it , those with money willing to risk it can buy peek credit from bossventure, those can't just keep you mouth shut...

watch the official video ... there are just too many negative energy in here to really make a good decision...
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Please show understanding that in the BNM list doesnt mean blacklist ... it is saying as unlicensed activity which the company already clarify , this is not investment company .. so there is no license or will bossventure try to get license from bank negara.. no, this is an IT company which need no bank negara approval...
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All i have to say is for those who wanted to part their money and give it to this company, before you do that, just give a telephone call to bank negara to enquire. The personnel will give their advice to you. Just a 2 minute telephone call may save you from regret in the future icon_rolleyes.gif
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Arguing will not affect the "up to 1.5%" performance even though it drop 0.87 on Sunday tongue.gif
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Instead of talking about Boss venture, why don't consider about Worldventures? although I don't really understand about "boss venture"

As i can see, Worldventures (US company) has more established base with at least 8 years of experience. And it's officially registered in malaysia this year.

Ps:can pm for more information. smile.gif

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QUOTE(Jared.G @ May 5 2014, 08:42 PM)
Instead of talking about Boss venture, why don't consider about Worldventures? although I don't really understand about "boss venture"

As i can see, Worldventures (US company) has more established base with at least 8 years of experience. And it's officially registered in malaysia this year.

Ps:can pm for more information. smile.gif
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HAHAHA seems like people gonna report this worldventures to BNN. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
sooner later sure kena blacklist jor. brows.gif brows.gif
see thread:https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2793019 thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

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HAHAHA seems like people gonna report this worldventures to BNN. rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
sooner later sure kena blacklist jor. brows.gif  brows.gif
see thread:https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2793019 thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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Hahaha, by sooner. It might be never smile.gif
First of all, The topic u referring. He's talking about worldventures "haven't" registered in Malaysia YET.

But now, 2014, worldventures is officially registered in malaysia.
So, believe it or not. it's impossible to be blacklisted now smile.gif

Nice try anyway rclxms.gif
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Hahaha, by sooner. It might be never smile.gif
First of all, The topic u referring. He's talking about worldventures "haven't" registered in Malaysia YET.

But now, 2014, worldventures is officially registered in malaysia.
So, believe it or not. it's impossible to be blacklisted now smile.gif

Nice try anyway rclxms.gif
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even registered....if BNN want screw the company......what can u do.... brows.gif brows.gif
now BNN love to target those MLM scheme.i think it will kena soon..god know when.
i am not buthurt but i do like to see scene like genneva.
i saw you like a brainwashed dude by the company. cool2.gif

and prove to urs it is registered.show the prove."action speak louder then words"

see people bad review:http://niketalk.com/t/573314/my-boy-got-caught-up-in-a-world-ventures-scam/90

news been closed down in norway:http://www.businessforhome.org/2014/02/worldventures-closed-down-in-norway-as-pyramid-game/

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World Venture is as legal as it goes as a MLM company, no doubt the whole payout if you read the PDF is genuine, the only problem like any other MLM company is their unethical leaders over promising and falsifying information.

As for Boss Venture, its up on BNM "Alert List" due to the same group of unethical people are promoting it as "Investment" Obviously if you do not have the license to do so, you will catch the attention of the authorities. Hence currently Boss Venture is suspending the accounts found linked to these false information spread.

Inside news update is they gotten 3 ministers from BNM to sign that this is a genuine business, however is still in the Alert List due to "Investment" is still being spread openly.

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QUOTE(TRAZE99 @ May 5 2014, 10:56 PM)
even registered....if BNN want screw the company......what can u do.... brows.gif  brows.gif
now BNN love to target those MLM scheme.i think it will kena soon..god know when.
i am not buthurt but i do like to see scene like genneva.
i saw you like a brainwashed dude by the company. cool2.gif

and prove to urs it is registered.show the prove."action speak louder then words"

see people bad review:http://niketalk.com/t/573314/my-boy-got-caught-up-in-a-world-ventures-scam/90

news been closed down in norway:http://www.businessforhome.org/2014/02/worldventures-closed-down-in-norway-as-pyramid-game/
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Well, I'd like to.But too bad i don't have the company certificate as it's belong to company, am i right?

As on proving, can you prove your admirably company is registered and it's legal??
Now you see, i can accuse anything or any of the statement including website, review, or some prove can
be fake, since it's internet. Everything is possible.

And comes to the review part, there's sure people talking bad about some particular company.

For instance, let's take your Genneva as example,

http://1-million-dollar-blog.com/genneva-g...scam-explained/
http://www.investlah.com/forum/index.php?topic=48522.0




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post May 6 2014, 12:22 AM


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QUOTE(Jared.G @ May 5 2014, 11:51 PM)
Well, I'd like to.But too bad i don't have the company certificate as it's belong to company, am i right?

As on proving, can you prove your admirably company is registered and it's legal??
Now you see, i can accuse anything or any of the statement including website, review, or some prove can
be fake, since it's internet. Everything is possible.

And comes to the review part, there's sure people talking bad about some particular company.

For instance, let's take your Genneva as example,

http://1-million-dollar-blog.com/genneva-g...scam-explained/
http://www.investlah.com/forum/index.php?topic=48522.0
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sorry bro i don't invest in any of this kind of MLM Pyramid scheme... rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif
most MLM scheme only profits for those that are early bird.....but the those that come in late all ends up in buthurt.
when the flows of money stop,so does the company.
can't provide registered prove....sounds fishy...same as many MLM scheme in Malaysia say they gonna register soon,already registered....but when call them gv prove all diam diam gv many excuses.call the company send the photocopy then show here.

as for the internet review...yes it have good and bad review.but when type Wv in google.....first thing seen in the screen is the word "SCAM" not 1 or 2 appears but appears in many website ....WHATS THE FIRST IMPRESSION COME OUT OF THE COMPANY U KNOW LA.

i am using genneva as example...so nonid bash at there!!. all bash people like us end in buthurt. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
i am guessing u are a member of the WV.thats why u are furiously defend it. doh.gif



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QUOTE(Azurika @ May 5 2014, 11:45 PM)

As for Boss Venture, its up on BNM "Alert List" due to the same group of unethical people are promoting it as "Investment" Obviously if you do not have the license to do so, you will catch the attention of the authorities. Hence currently Boss Venture is suspending the accounts found linked to these false information spread.

Inside news update is they gotten 3 ministers from BNM to sign that this is a genuine business, however is still in the Alert List due to "Investment" is still being spread openly.

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can u give me link for that info azurika? i need to know about that clearly smile.gif
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QUOTE(bizer886 @ May 9 2014, 07:17 PM)
can u give me link for that info azurika? i need to know about that clearly smile.gif
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It is not posted on internet, but you can see the doc in Oval tower, Richard has access to it.
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