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post Apr 19 2014, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(Azurika @ Apr 19 2014, 11:54 AM)
Its in BNM list for being assumed as a Investment company due to unethical advertisements by unethical members. You will not see a word of investment in the official company website, slides or anything link to them.

Many of the accounts which are link to false ad's has been terminated.

Sometimes is not the company, but rather the people who make it look like dirt.
Thats what happening with World Venture  wink.gif
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Bro, if you still has money inside, get it out and run away far far

BNM won't blacklist a company for nothing. If BNM put my company inside their alert list by mistake, I will sue them until they lose their pants. Why those companies in the blacklist never sue BNM ? Because they have shit inside lah
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post Apr 22 2014, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(Azurika @ Apr 22 2014, 12:10 PM)
I have cashed out more then what I have put in with interest, hence whatever thats inside is a bonus if the company sustain. There are reasons why I dare park my money inside for this duration  wink.gif
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Do you still recommend others to "invest" in this company ?
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post Apr 22 2014, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(Azurika @ Apr 22 2014, 02:54 PM)
I do not recommend others to "Invest" as this is not an investment.
If people ask me on investment, I will share with them other investment schemes  laugh.gif

If people ask me about BV, Id just tell them on the basic potential 1 year payout, and the high risk involve.
You will be surprise I spend more time in my F2F presentation talking about the risk, rather then the returns biggrin.gif as I believe in Karma, and you have to join in your own free will and not persuaded by me wink.gif Till today, I have actually not personally approach people on BV, my whole network is people approaching me biggrin.gif
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I hope you will just tell people that BV is not worth the risk. Bank Negara already warn everybody.
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post Apr 22 2014, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(Azurika @ Apr 22 2014, 03:53 PM)
Given is worth or not worth the risk is not for me to decide but theirs wink.gif its unethical to make decisions for others. We can only share with them the correct information regarding it.  wink.gif
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Walao, even Bank Negara already blacklist you still talk about ethical. What you are saying is something like "it is unethical to decide for our student whether to take weed or not. We can only share with them the correct information regarding taking weed or not" rclxms.gif

Come on. Just be a straight forward person and tell them the truth
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post Apr 22 2014, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(mariokuat @ Apr 22 2014, 06:34 PM)
here another try to make the company look bad.......i got boss venture company number DARE DARE CALL! 03-7722 3512 .if call one time cannot connect call several time because got 500,000 reseller nowadays calling them.so ask until u satisfy! vmad.gif 

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Here is also a useful number for you to call and check whether the company is legit. You can ask whatever question to them like "how safe is this company ?"

Bank Negara Malaysia

TELEPHONE/FACSIMILE/E-MAIL

Tel : 1-300-88-5465 (1-300-88-LINK)
(Overseas: +603-2174-1717)
Fax: +603-2174-1515
E-mail: bnmtelelink@bnm.gov.my

Operating Hours: 9.00 a.m. - 5.00 p.m. (Monday - Friday)
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post Apr 22 2014, 07:14 PM

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QUOTE(mariokuat @ Apr 22 2014, 06:53 PM)
have u call bnm ? and ask them? ask them why they put in alert list? they no done illegal thing by selling goods.... you call them why need me call them..need answer is u not me...craping out of boss venture is u not me....anyway u try call bnm ...ask them all the reason everything u need record their talking post at here....or write at here.....because some people listen something say different thing maybe they are uneducated in langauge and so on like in dota 2 pinoy...caveman... rclxms.gif
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Yes, I called them already. They told me whatever company in their list is not recommended and will soon be raided. That's what they told me. That's why I ask you to call them
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post Apr 22 2014, 08:04 PM

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QUOTE(mariokuat @ Apr 22 2014, 07:33 PM)
anyway hope they raid soon. have u check smm and msc site? they are registered.
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The BNM malay lady I spoke to told me usually they will give some time for the blacklisted company's customer to claim back money from the company. If they raid now, all asset will be freezed immediately. So all customers' money will be stucked inside the company. BNM prosecution process will take years, so the customer's money will be as good as gone.

By blacklisting the company, BNM alert the customer their money is in danger. They still have a chance to go to the company and ask for refund. She told me that is the best practice because the customers' chance of getting back the money is the best. Usually the blacklisted company will bankrupt by itself because nobody will trust them anymore. So those customers who still believe the business is legit are the ones who will lose everything

If you still have money in the company, faster go claim back while waiting for BNM to raid. Once they raid, your money is as cold as water
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post Apr 23 2014, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(Azurika @ Apr 23 2014, 11:21 AM)
3.xx after 3 months with a 4 accounts user ?  shakehead.gif  What kind of leaders do you have over there ?
Need to sit down with Richard to discuss Miri market if thats what is happening over there this weekend.  doh.gif

PS: Flames do not encourage yourself nor the company to shine  wink.gif
I have already gotten a decent amount of signup in LYN  by showing facts in a fair manner.
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Azurika, hope when you are recruiting for BV, the first advice to your potential recruit will be to ask them to call Bank Negara personally tongue.gif
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post Apr 23 2014, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(Azurika @ Apr 23 2014, 03:37 PM)
Well, I did tell them it is listed under black list  wink.gif
They call or not is another story, some paid up, some didnt.
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Why would you still accept recruitment knowing the company will fold very soon ? That would seriously damage your own reputation later. Is money more important than your long term reputation ?
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post Apr 23 2014, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(Azurika @ Apr 23 2014, 03:50 PM)
Personally, I have reasons that company will not fold yet.  And my team would have obtain their money before anything happens. We have a formula to at least get ROI in the shortest time tongue.gif
And my reputation is only tainted IF I didnt not warn you of all these possibilities. I warn you of the risk, is up to you to take it or not. Is like going for a surgery with 50/50 chance. The doctor already warn you of possible death, and you still take the chance, the family going to blame the doctor ? Its only a problem when you force money from people, or leave out information, or worse fake it.
And I do not recruit, people ask me on their own will and ask me to get them in.
Did u know I turn down some of the old aunties which wants to cash in their entire savings ? I told them just go for basic, keep their savings in other location.  wink.gif
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But, the doctor (Bank Negara) has already diagnosed the patient (Boss Venture) is terminally ill. It is just a matter of time the patient will die. You still tell the patient's family got 50-50 chance doh.gif

Friend, have some mercy. Even if people come to you to ask on their own will, you should just tell them there are better opportunity elsewhere

Of course unless you have everything to gain monetarily. Then just tell me you are only after their money, and I will stfu tongue.gif
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post Apr 23 2014, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(Azurika @ Apr 23 2014, 04:27 PM)
I have never told them is 50/50 chance ~ thats just an example  sweat.gif 

Personally I think is a good opportunity , IF you can afford to lose the money you put in. In some sense its like gambling when I explain to the aunties. You put your money in a jackpot and you roll, you risk losing it , or gain some. Next you double it, risking what you have, but chance to grow even more, and the RISK gets HIGHER.
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Ok lah, obviously you are after their money even though the company has been sentenced to death by Bank Negara

You are no different compare to those famous Genneva gold agents notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
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post Apr 23 2014, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(Azurika @ Apr 23 2014, 04:34 PM)
Thanks

We will see who gets the last laugh by end of this year  smile.gif
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I think Genneva agents said the same thing tongue.gif
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post Apr 23 2014, 05:41 PM

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QUOTE(Azurika @ Apr 23 2014, 04:46 PM)
I know, in the end thats the truth right ? Im im right, ill be laughing and many will regret doubting the company so much. If im wrong, you will be laughing , and everybody trolling that im a scammer, no ?  laugh.gif
Sorry but I have been with 2 pioneer MLM companies, and I have proven both right 2 my clients and friends and Im hoping to see a 3rd  tongue.gif

Speaking of Genneva, I was never their agent as 1 of my uncle trades gold from the middle east, hence he told me is impossible for them to pay that rate based on ONLY gold appreciation rate.
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Ya, to you and me, who is right, who is wrong doesn't matter. I don't earn anything from it. I only get entertainment and pass my free time for posting here. For you, you have earned your commission. Maybe a few thousand or tens of thousand a month ? I don't know. Apparently you care less about your reputation so that also doesn't matter.

At the end, even if the company is a scam, it doesn't matter to both of us. Your money in the pocket already. And I got entertained already. Both of us happy.

Whose money at stake ? Your client lor. They believed your words and "invest" in a blacklisted company. Their money matters. But who cares, right ? tongue.gif


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post Apr 23 2014, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(Azurika @ Apr 23 2014, 05:43 PM)
Oh I care as I manage some of their other wealth in other investments, and many are my business partners for different ventures  wink.gif
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Wow, then your reputation is at risk man. When Boss Venture get raided, your client will sure blame you. Even when at that time you clearly explain to them. Think clearly my friend of the consequences. Clients always forget what you told them when they lose money
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post Apr 23 2014, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(Azurika @ Apr 23 2014, 05:50 PM)
Thanks for the advice  wink.gif
But Im sticking to what I chose for my reasons to believe it will still sustain currently.
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If it will sustain, it should be a legitimate business. Then you should get the company to sue Bank Negara for tarnishing the good name of the company. Get the best lawyer. That should do the trick to BNM. If BNM still doesn't budge, make noise in newspaper and online, get all customers and agents to protest in front of bank negara, camp there and make a scene. Until Bank Negara take down the company's name in blacklist.

Taking legal action is what a normal company will do. If the company give excuses and avoid legal actions, then it should have already rung a bell and raised a big red flag to you

Ah....again I think I am wasting my time here. You are the agent and intend to continue earning the commission, so you will shut your mind off to any adverse comment about the company tongue.gif
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post Apr 24 2014, 07:08 PM

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QUOTE(mansonloo @ Apr 24 2014, 06:21 PM)
It is not easy to take action against BNM. In Geneva's case, hundreds of their agents and customers wanted to sue BNM, but no lawyer dare to take their case. The lawyers just told them, it would be a lost case. This being BNM is somewhat governed by the government and hence, how can someone sue the government within the country's constitution? I'm not attached to Geneva in anyway but I did know the internal news from both Geneva and BNM on this Geneva story.

In a nutshell, this is Malaysia. The grey area does exist here.
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The lawyers are absolutely correct. Those in the black list will lose the case even if they go to court. BNM won't simply put a legit company in the list. The fact that Boss Venture don't go the legal route is because "their body got shit".

Those "BNM is government, cannot sue" are just excuses to con potential investors who are uneducated.

Bank Negara warned the "investors" of Genneva and in the end people have been burnt in Genneva case. Now Bank Negara also warned "investors" of Boss Venture. Still no scared ?
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post Apr 25 2014, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(mansonloo @ Apr 25 2014, 12:32 AM)
On a sidenote, I would like to add that BNM just added Geneva (M) Sdn Bhd to the watchlist, merely months (I believed it is somewhere between 3-5 months) prior to the raid. And BNM actually raided the same business, called Geneva Sdn Bhd, 3 years ago, on the basis of money laundering. Yes, that's 2 different company NAME but ran by the same management. Geneva (M) S/B started operation a few months after Geneva S/B was raided.

That is exactly why the public were so angered about why BNM didn't do something about Geneva (M) S/B since 3 years ago. Surely BNM knows about its existence then.

And the one you heard in the news about the court hearing, (1 month after Geneva (M) was raided), is actually Geneva S/B. The first one that was raided 3 years ago, not the recent one.

Funny eh?
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Yes, funny to me too.

But I guess those who loss money in Genneva didn't find it funny at all. And the BV customers will not find it funny too when BNM raid the company tongue.gif
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post Apr 29 2014, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(chongfl @ Apr 29 2014, 11:00 AM)
Please show understanding that in the BNM list doesnt mean blacklist ... it is saying as unlicensed activity which the company already clarify , this is not investment company .. so there is no license or will bossventure try to get license from bank negara.. no, this is an IT company which need no bank negara approval...
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All i have to say is for those who wanted to part their money and give it to this company, before you do that, just give a telephone call to bank negara to enquire. The personnel will give their advice to you. Just a 2 minute telephone call may save you from regret in the future icon_rolleyes.gif
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post May 9 2014, 11:02 PM

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QUOTE(Azurika @ May 9 2014, 10:02 PM)
It is not posted on internet, but you can see the doc in Oval tower, Richard has access to it.
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Genneva has Mahathir, previous Agong and big mama's endorsement also tongue.gif

If not wrong, they even have Pahang princess who sit on Genneva's board of director

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post May 16 2014, 06:50 AM

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QUOTE(lexu2005 @ May 15 2014, 04:52 PM)
Yes, Just make a call to BNM to get the advise b4 u really joint the BossVenture!

Bcus its depends on the action from BNM in the end, if BossVenture get backlisted soon; then everything will be gone.

So, beware!... hmm.gif
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Boss Venture is already in the blacklist. It is still waiting for BNM to take action. BNM hopes that with the blacklist warning, those who have already invested can withdraw their capital. Just like Genneva case, if BNM takes action, the company's assets will be freezed. And it takes years to settle the case and usually nothing is left for the poor people who put money in

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