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post Dec 23 2013, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(suntzulee @ Dec 22 2013, 05:25 PM)
Yes, i sold a iphone 5 16gb maxis set to him last week. During cod i told him the warranty is until Sept 2014 because i personally checked on apple warranty website and the set was belong to my previous seller. I also clearly told him the earpod is used and often buyer dont want it because of hygiene purpose.

After an hour, he kept on whatsapp, sms and calling me while i was driving. Due to repeating distraction, i pull over my car and pick up his call. He told me the warranty is not Sept 2014 but is end December 2013. But i told him it was impossible because i personally check on the apple warranty website and it shown Sept 2014. Nevertheless, i told him that i will check with  my previous seller.

From that night onwards, he kept on disturbing and pestering me about the warranty day after day. After few days, i replied him that i couldn't find the seller as the phone was cut off. Then he asked me to compensate him RM100 for the warranty issue. At first i was contemplating as i am also got conned by my previous seller about the warranty. Eventually i agreed with his terms and he promised he will forgo the warranty issue.

Next, after i sent him the earpod, he said it was fake. Then i explained to him that it was the earpod i got from the previous seller and i did not test whether it is ori or fake. I'm just a trader and i sold phone and all accessories where i got from my previous seller.

I regretted that i refunded him the money if i know he will keep on doing his trick on me. Later i believe he will tell me that the cable and charger is also fake. Then, ask me to refund him again sad.gif

The main reason why i refund the money to him because i know both of us also a victim and i tried my every best to assist him. But he never satisfied and keep on asking me for refund by telling the accessories are fake. I will not believe him anymore. Yet he is spamming my selling thread with his make up story.
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dont pull the seller into the picture. its 2 different case.
case 1 : u buy from seller
case 2 : u sell to buyer

what happens in case 1 stays in case 1. u should do ur own due diligence before selling it
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post Dec 23 2013, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(PeeEl @ Dec 23 2013, 12:04 PM)
Why you guys waste your time with this unrepentant serial fraudster? His record speaks for itself.

What TS should do is refer him to the Consumer Tribunal and see if justice can be brought against him there. He is full of bull. All can judge from his posts. Enough said.
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QUOTE(PeeEl @ Dec 23 2013, 12:04 PM)
Why you guys waste your time with this unrepentant serial fraudster? His record speaks for itself.

What TS should do is refer him to the Consumer Tribunal and see if justice can be brought against him there. He is full of bull. All can judge from his posts. Enough said.
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Also agree, both buyer & seller can defense themselves infront of the judge.
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post Dec 23 2013, 07:12 PM

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what kind of piece of shit is this seller ? TS clearly state that the earpod is fake . not even once did he mention that the ip5 cable and charger are fake . he even said that those 2 pieces are fine , only the earpod has problem . you know you are the one scamming and yet you accused TS of scamming ? he even has proof that he bought the phone at RM1750 (minus the rm100 for the warranty issue , which is ofc , YOUR MISTAKE IN THE FIRST PLACE) . be a man , refund with original earpod .
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post Dec 23 2013, 10:08 PM

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I hope, Mod/Admin can help me in this case faster. I really tired with this sunzlee. As i state clearly. I want the original earpod coz i paid for it for fullset package. Thats it.
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post Dec 23 2013, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(Crozac @ Dec 23 2013, 10:08 PM)
I hope, Mod/Admin can help me in this case faster. I really tired with this sunzlee. As i state clearly. I want the original earpod coz i paid for it for fullset package. Thats it.
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i will give you the benefit of doubt. Refund you the price of a used earpods.
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post Dec 23 2013, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(suntzulee @ Dec 23 2013, 10:37 PM)
i will give you the benefit of doubt. Refund you the price of a used earpods.
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Bro, very tired to state the same thing all over again.. I tell you again what i want

1)earpod
2)earpod
3)earpod

I paid already for the fullset. U want to refund used price of earpod. And im sure later i need to topup to get the earpod. Why should i do that? My deal with you is fulset item. Original earpod is part the fullset.

As per whatsapp you send me today, you want to refund used price of earpod. how much it is?

This post has been edited by Crozac: Dec 23 2013, 10:53 PM
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post Dec 23 2013, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(suntzulee @ Dec 23 2013, 10:37 PM)
i will give you the benefit of doubt. Refund you the price of a used earpods.
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QUOTE(Crozac @ Dec 23 2013, 10:50 PM)
Bro, very tired to state the same thing all over again.. I tell you again what i want

1)earpod
2)earpod
3)earpod

I paid already for the fullset. U want to refund used price of earpod. And im sure later i need to topup to get the earpod. Why should i do that? My deal with you is fulset item. Original earpod is part the fullset.

As per whatsapp you send me today, you want to refund used price of earpod. how much it is?
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Not to be biased or what. Its just my suggestion. Im in no way siding either side.

1. Since you want to prove your innocence, suntzulee, why not meet Crozac face to face to solve the earpod issue? Just verify the earpod at an authorized apple retailer. If its fake, then suntzulee refund a new earpod and crozac returns the previous earpod. If its original, then Crozac apologize or treat suntzulee to a meal or something.

2. Full refund from sunztulee and Crozac returns all items in good condition face to face.

Dont need to assume who's gonna ask who to top-up, scam, fake etc.

Just my 2 cents. Im just a prob mod so there ya go. My suggestion.

This post has been edited by tarvalslain87: Dec 23 2013, 11:01 PM
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post Dec 23 2013, 11:01 PM

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QUOTE(Crozac @ Dec 23 2013, 10:50 PM)
Bro, very tired to state the same thing all over again.. I tell you again what i want

1)earpod
2)earpod
3)earpod

I paid already for the fullset. U want to refund used price of earpod. And im sure later i need to topup to get the earpod. Why should i do that? My deal with you is fulset item. Original earpod is part the fullset.

As per whatsapp you send me today, you want to refund used price of earpod. how much it is?
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As i quoted in the whatsapp, RM50. By refunding money, i will not worry you will argue the earpod i sent u again is fake again. Like wise, you will not worry getting a fake earpod. Win win.
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post Dec 23 2013, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(tarvalslain87 @ Dec 23 2013, 10:59 PM)
Not to be biased or what. Its just my suggestion. Im in no way siding either side.

1. Since you want to prove your innocence, suntzulee, why not meet Crozac face to face to solve the earpod issue? Just verify the earpod at an authorized apple retailer. If its fake, then suntzulee refund a new earpod and crozac returns the previous earpod. If its original, then Crozac apologize or treat suntzulee to a meal or something.

2. Full refund from sunztulee and Crozac returns all items in good condition face to face.

Dont need to assume who's gonna ask who to top-up, scam, fake etc.

Just my 2 cents. Im just a prob mod so there ya go. My suggestion.
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Hi bro, thanks for helping. Your option 1 is workable. However there is a problem, the price that i sold him is an used earpod. How can i refund him a new earpod. Is not fair for me.

In addition, how i know when we meet up, he's taking a fake earpod to show me? He doesnt trust me and i dont trust him either. Best i refund him an used earpod price.
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QUOTE(suntzulee @ Dec 23 2013, 11:01 PM)
As i quoted in the whatsapp, RM50. By refunding money, i will not worry you will argue the earpod i sent u again is fake again. Like wise, you will not worry getting a fake earpod. Win win.
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QUOTE(suntzulee @ Dec 23 2013, 11:06 PM)
Hi bro, thanks for helping. Your option 1 is workable. However there is a problem, the price that i sold him is an used earpod. How can i refund him a new earpod. Is not fair for me.

In addition, how i know when we meet up, he's taking a fake earpod to show me? He doesnt trust me and i dont trust him either. Best i refund him an used earpod price.
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Why dont you just refund him/her RM109 (price of an earpod in apple store) and he/she gives you back the claimed fake earpod. Since its not his/her fault that you get a fake earpod and since you are a trader, its your responsibility now for your buyer.

Im sure Crozac would agree to this and solve this case.



In my opinion with a dispute tag, you are on a losing side since people dont trust you. I think by doing that it will at least clear your name wouldnt it? He/She dont trust you and neither do you. Reputation for a trader definitely worth more than that extra RM59. Meeting face to face will solve this better where it shows sincerity.

Logically for me, Crozac wouldnt waste his/her time creating this thread, PMing me multiple times to solve this case etc just for an earpod?

Just solve this and go on with your business.

This post has been edited by tarvalslain87: Dec 23 2013, 11:15 PM
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1st .. seller still a scammer
2nd .. buyer just want an earpod (new)
3rd .. seller still a scammer ..
4th .. seller is noob because got scam by previous ip5 owner .. scam the scammer

summary : Win!! cool2.gif
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post Dec 23 2013, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(suntzulee @ Dec 23 2013, 11:01 PM)
As i quoted in the whatsapp, RM50. By refunding money, i will not worry you will argue the earpod i sent u again is fake again. Like wise, you will not worry getting a fake earpod. Win win.
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ya rm50. so i need to topup to get the earpod. thats what i dont want. i already paid for it in you fullset deal. why should i spend more money to get the earpod? u tell me..

If you send me the original one, ill not argue more. thats my promise. but since you refuse. we can arrange to meet at the same place, which is maybank the curve. and i will test it in front of you. then this problem will settle.

the key thing here, if you send me original earpod by postage or by hand. this case will settle.

to remind you.. this issue will not occur at all, if you provide me the original earpod for the first place. I just want to claim my right which is the earpod, because i already paid for it. Thats it. I already waste a lot of time because you provide me a fake earpod.

I will not accept your refund (rm50) because i know, after this i need to topup to get the original earpod. why should i do that. I PAID already for fullset item from you. you should provide me the original earpod coz your are responsible with the item you sell. do i clear about this?
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QUOTE(Crozac @ Dec 23 2013, 11:16 PM)
ya rm50. so i need to topup to get the earpod. thats what i dont want. i already paid for it in you fullset deal. why should i spend more money to get the earpod? u tell me..

If you send me the original one, ill not argue more. thats my promise. but since you refuse. we can arrange to meet at the same place, which is maybank the curve. and i will test it in front of you. then this problem will settle.

the key thing here, if you send me original earpod by postage or by hand. this case will settle.

to remind you.. this issue will not occur at all, if you provide me the original earpod for the first place. I just want to claim my right which is the earpod, because i already paid for it. Thats it. I already waste a lot of time because you provide me a fake earpod.

I will not accept your refund (rm50) because i know, after this i need to topup to get the original earpod. why should i do that. I PAID already for fullset item from you. you should provide me the original earpod coz your are responsible with the item you sell. do i clear about this?
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bro i think this seller is not so clever .. u just want ur earpod .. he should be thankful that you not complaining about the warranty .. cause he did said warranty until 2014 .. siyesly .. i thought all scammer are clever .. damn!

anyway good luck bro .. next time check background 1st before buying anything anywhere online smile.gif
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post Dec 23 2013, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(tarvalslain87 @ Dec 23 2013, 11:09 PM)
Why dont you just refund him/her RM109 (price of an earpod in apple store) and he/she gives you back the claimed fake earpod. Since its not his/her fault that you get a fake earpod and since you are a trader, its your responsibility now for your buyer.

Im sure Crozac would agree to this and solve this case.
In my opinion with a dispute tag, you are on a losing side since people dont trust you. I think by doing that it will at least clear your name wouldnt it? He/She dont trust you and neither do you. Reputation for a trader definitely worth more than that extra RM59. Meeting face to face will solve this better where it shows sincerity.

Logically for me, Crozac wouldnt waste his/her time creating this thread, PMing me multiple times to solve this case etc just for an earpod?

Just solve this and go on with your business.
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Not fair to me at all. First i suspected he scam me the earpod. Can you guarantee he did not scam me? He said the earpod is fake and you believe him? Since, you said i'm at the losing side. Fine. I will give him the benefit of doubt and refund him a used earpod but not a new earpod. The whole deal is used unit. That's the best i can do for him
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QUOTE(suntzulee @ Dec 23 2013, 11:20 PM)
Not fair to me at all. First i suspected he scam me the earpod. Can you guarantee he did not scam me? He said the earpod is fake and you believe him? Since, you said i'm at the losing side. Fine. I will give him the benefit of doubt and refund him a used earpod but not a new earpod. The whole deal is used unit. That's the best i can do for him
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Ok but can I guarantee that you didnt purposely put in a used earpod? I cant guarantee either one. If its a used unit, then get a used original earpod if you wanna go through the hassle. Im sure Crozac wouldnt mind eaither as long as its a workable used original earpod.

I believe him due to the information you guys provide in the few pages of posts. Like I say logically, why would someone go through so much hassle to scam you for a new earpod? Agree in meeting you face to face again wasting time, petrol, money etc.

Or you can always choose option 2.

Im here to give my opinions. In the end both of you have to come out with a solution.

This post has been edited by tarvalslain87: Dec 23 2013, 11:32 PM
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QUOTE(suntzulee @ Dec 23 2013, 11:20 PM)
Not fair to me at all. First i suspected he scam me the earpod. Can you guarantee he did not scam me? He said the earpod is fake and you believe him? Since, you said i'm at the losing side. Fine. I will give him the benefit of doubt and refund him a used earpod but not a new earpod. The whole deal is used unit. That's the best i can do for him
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you can search this forum. there are people selling original used earpod. why dont you get from them coz it is used condition and cheaper that new one. and send me by hand. i can test on the spot in front of you. the original earpod is original earpod. or we can go apple store together for checking. and this problem settle.
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buyer already negotiate for used earpod still dont want to settle .. doh.gif
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QUOTE(Crozac @ Dec 23 2013, 11:32 PM)
you can search this forum. there are people selling original used earpod. why dont you get from them coz it is used condition and cheaper that new one. and send me by hand. i can test on the spot in front of you. the original earpod is original earpod. or we can go apple store together for checking. and this problem settle.
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If this is what you wish. Honestly, this will go through a lot of hassle compared to my immediate refund. When i get a seller, will arrange cod to test it.
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QUOTE(suntzulee @ Dec 23 2013, 11:46 PM)
If this is what you wish. Honestly, this will go through a lot of hassle compared to my immediate refund. When i get a seller, will arrange cod to test it.
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Ok. I agree with this.

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