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post Dec 22 2013, 05:25 PM

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Yes, i sold a iphone 5 16gb maxis set to him last week. During cod i told him the warranty is until Sept 2014 because i personally checked on apple warranty website and the set was belong to my previous seller. I also clearly told him the earpod is used and often buyer dont want it because of hygiene purpose.

After an hour, he kept on whatsapp, sms and calling me while i was driving. Due to repeating distraction, i pull over my car and pick up his call. He told me the warranty is not Sept 2014 but is end December 2013. But i told him it was impossible because i personally check on the apple warranty website and it shown Sept 2014. Nevertheless, i told him that i will check with my previous seller.

From that night onwards, he kept on disturbing and pestering me about the warranty day after day. After few days, i replied him that i couldn't find the seller as the phone was cut off. Then he asked me to compensate him RM100 for the warranty issue. At first i was contemplating as i am also got conned by my previous seller about the warranty. Eventually i agreed with his terms and he promised he will forgo the warranty issue.

Next, after i sent him the earpod, he said it was fake. Then i explained to him that it was the earpod i got from the previous seller and i did not test whether it is ori or fake. I'm just a trader and i sold phone and all accessories where i got from my previous seller.

I regretted that i refunded him the money if i know he will keep on doing his trick on me. Later i believe he will tell me that the cable and charger is also fake. Then, ask me to refund him again sad.gif

The main reason why i refund the money to him because i know both of us also a victim and i tried my every best to assist him. But he never satisfied and keep on asking me for refund by telling the accessories are fake. I will not believe him anymore. Yet he is spamming my selling thread with his make up story.
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post Dec 22 2013, 05:48 PM

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QUOTE(FrostyFizzy @ Dec 22 2013, 05:42 PM)
but somehow your name appears on the blacklist .  shakehead.gif
it is hard to believe in you tho .
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this time i will not avoid. Please dont think all of us, sellers are water fish. Yes i might have made a mistake previously for not defending myself. Now, i know my conscience is clear and i have nothing to be afraid.

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post Dec 22 2013, 06:23 PM

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QUOTE(victorian @ Dec 22 2013, 06:13 PM)
Like they always say, whatever you do with the seller has nothing to do with the buyer. Do not blame your stupidity on other people. No one wants to share the weight. Seriously ? Sept 2014 and Dec 2013 is a huge difference, the only viable explanation is either you are blind or you are lying. You realized you got conned and you are playing along thinking you can get away from it  doh.gif . Next was the earpods, do not say the accessories were given by the previous seller. Who's selling the phone now ? You or the previous seller? You have the responsibility to make sure everything is as it as claimed by your thread. If its fake, say its fake. Don't take us for fools. First chin_kh dispute, now this. I really don't know how much more lies you have to spread to cover all your previous lies.
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When i first bought the phone a month ago, the warranty clearly showed Sep 2014. that's why i never deny the fact i told the buyer the warranty which i knew earlier on. I only realized when the buyer told me it was not till Sept. I'm also a victim and i dont wish to pass the responsibility to other. That's why when crozac suggested asking me to pay him RM100 and he willing to forego the warranty issue. However, he broke his promise and harping on the warranty issue again here. If i knew he was such a dishonest person, i will not even compensate him.

As for the earpod, i dont know it is fake as i got it from my seller. I never tested it and i just given him what i received from my seller. This time is earpod, what if next round he tells me charger is fake? Or what if next round again, cable is fake?

Pls dont judge things as a total. chin_kh was another case and now is totally a different case. I made a mistake for not defending myself earlier on but now i will not repeat the mistake here again.
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post Dec 22 2013, 06:59 PM

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QUOTE(victorian @ Dec 22 2013, 06:41 PM)
You are not even sure if your earpods is original.  How can you defend yourself in such case? Yes he can always lie about the charger is fake but why would he do that? I've been trading since 2011 and I did not worry about People claiming my accessories is fake even for a second, because I know my stuff is original or in some case if it is third party, I'll let the buyer know.  If he really has the intention to scam you,  you are in no way in a good position as well because of your previous case.  This is why it is always good to build a good reputation, people will back you up if such case happens. But I don't see anyone backing you up  hmm.gif
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i sent the buyer exactly what i received. There's also possibility the buyer telling lies just to get his money refund. I have been trading since 2008 here and i too have no worry people coming upfront claiming the accessories i sold is fake. Why is this only crozac? he has every intention to scam, to spam and ranting all false claims in my selling thread for one reason. He wanted more money from me.

You can say there are no people backing up me but you cant say no one means my accessories are not genuine.
Hitherto, there is no one except this crozac claiming my accessories is fake. That's is truth.
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post Dec 22 2013, 07:27 PM

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QUOTE(Crozac @ Dec 22 2013, 07:12 PM)
Im in process of taking the earpod picture now. Ill upload it in the next post after this. Same to the warranty. If your item is original, why you dont want to meet me at the curve? I can show you the prove ur item is not original face 2 face. Else, I also ask for full refund, and ill give back your items since you claim your item is original. Why you refuse to do it?
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How many times I need to repeat to you? I'm not sure whether the ear pod is ori or fake as it was from my seller. Ask u, is the charger also fake? I don't trust you anymore.
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post Dec 22 2013, 07:30 PM

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QUOTE(victorian @ Dec 22 2013, 07:15 PM)
Exactly, you are not even sure if your the accessories are original.  You can't push the blame to the seller.  It's between you and crozac now. And btw I don't think he is so free to throw fake accusations and lies.
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Pls ask him, did he promise me to forego the warranty issue after I refunded him RM100? If he said no, then he's free to throw absurd accusations and lies to me. I have the proof he broken his promise too. As such he can lie about the ear pod by showing a fake earpod picture.
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post Dec 22 2013, 07:46 PM

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QUOTE(victorian @ Dec 22 2013, 07:41 PM)
Is he chasing you after the warranty issue now? No right? This dispute is over the case of your fake earpods. Yes please post the proof here. We would like to see.
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Let him answer my question first.
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post Dec 22 2013, 07:57 PM

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QUOTE(Crozac @ Dec 22 2013, 07:52 PM)
I already get the charger from you since day 1. I already check, and Im not saying anything about the charger since i receive it. The issue now is about a fake earpod. I dont know why you keep asking about the charger?
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Because I knew all your tricks. Now is earpod. Later is charger, right? Again, the earpod I sent you was from my seller. How I know the picture you show here is another earpod? If u say I'm a Conman, I can also suspect you are a scammer.
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post Dec 22 2013, 08:09 PM

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QUOTE(victorian @ Dec 22 2013, 08:04 PM)
The thing is your background wasn't clean to begin with.
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I agreed. Previously I did not defend my self and I ended up a dispute tag. However, that doesn't give anyone privilege to scam, spam and ranting over my selling thread. Again, I hope you can see things case by case basis. Honestly I don't trust this crozac either...
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post Dec 22 2013, 08:14 PM

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QUOTE(Crozac @ Dec 22 2013, 08:05 PM)
Why u said later? As i said I already, i got the charger since day 1. Im not saying anything about the charger. The earpod is exactly what you send me in the box. You suggest me what prove you want more? We can meet together and ill show you face to face.
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What I mean is today you say earpod is fake. Tomorrow, you will tell me charger is also fake. Days after, cable is also fake, right? You have broken your promise to me & u want me to believe you? Once bitten twice shy...
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post Dec 22 2013, 08:22 PM

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QUOTE(Crozac @ Dec 22 2013, 08:17 PM)
I buy your phone RM1750, since warranty issue. you refund me RM100. So now the price is RM1650. I pay so much money, just to scam you for the earpod? Are you sure? Now u said im the scammer? I have PM many people that sell iphone 5 in lowyat forum. I can screenshot if you want. Do you said that my intention for buying iphone 5 is to scam people earpod? Do you think i have so many time to do that?
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Your words are full of illusions. Sorry, I don't trust you anymore.
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post Dec 22 2013, 08:23 PM

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QUOTE(victorian @ Dec 22 2013, 08:19 PM)
And why didn't you defend yourself one year ago? I thought your conscience was clear ? If your device is a SME set like you mentioned then why didn't you explain yourself?

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2316288

Quoting from yourself
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Did I not tell you I made a mistake? You understand England bro? hmm.gif
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post Dec 22 2013, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(Crozac @ Dec 22 2013, 08:26 PM)
I buy your phone with the first price you giving me. Im not asking for any discount at all. A lot of other user sell much cheaper than you, with more time warranty. I choose your phone because of the so call "10month" warranty. Now you accuse me that i want more money from you? Are you sure about that?

I ask to meet me to discuss about this fake earphone face to face, you refuse. Why?

I ask for full refund and i give back all of your items. And you said no? Why?
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One reason, you are too good in telling lies.
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post Dec 22 2013, 08:42 PM

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QUOTE(Crozac @ Dec 22 2013, 08:38 PM)
Let the admin/mod decide all this. You are the one that telling lies since day one.  I dont have so many time like you to scam people. And this is not the first time i buy something in lowyat forum. You are the scammer and keep wasting my time. People can judge.
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Your first lie, you will forego warranty issue if I refund you rm100
2nd lie, the earpod
3rd lie, I sold you my first price as u never keep pressing my price.

Yes let admin decides what kind of scammer you are.
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post Dec 22 2013, 09:00 PM

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QUOTE(Crozac @ Dec 22 2013, 08:56 PM)
If you said that im lying. I ask once again, come meet me face 2 face. I can return all of your item. And you refund my money. Simple.
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are you high or something? U have told so many lies here and expect me to meet up? You bought RM1750 from me??? Hello, it was RM1500 after you kept on pressing my price. I have refunded RM100 and yet you have the face to ask for full refund.

You are the worse buyer i ever had.

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post Dec 22 2013, 09:15 PM

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QUOTE(Crozac @ Dec 22 2013, 09:11 PM)
How you do your math? 1750 - 100 = 1650. that the amount of refund. Get it? When did i pressing your price? i paid 1750 the first day. i can show my whatsap message here the price we deal.
Now u said i bought it rm1500 coz im pressing your price? Hahahahahah my lucky day to prove u lied. I will post whatsap message here.

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info : he ask me to go giant kota damansara. but after discusion, we decide to go maybank the curve. i also have prove that we change location. ill post if needed.
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haha...got you. now you know the feeling of being lied?
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post Dec 22 2013, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(Crozac @ Dec 22 2013, 09:18 PM)
I dunno what drama you want to create more. Lets the admin decide and judge.
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just wanted you to feel what i felt thus far.

I have also proof he has broken his promise.


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post Dec 22 2013, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(Crozac @ Dec 22 2013, 09:29 PM)
I dont know what you are trying do proof here. I have no problem with this screenshot at all. Everything good. But please answer the lie about your statement in my previous post/screenshot.
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If everything is ok, why you kept on repeating the warranty issue? now some more the earpod issue. Did i not explain that it was from my previous seller and i gave you what i got.

Ok, tell me then, is the charger ori?
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post Dec 22 2013, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Dec 22 2013, 09:37 PM)
Just give the buyer back his money and take back your phone. Its not reflecting well on you right now. By claiming the seller is lying is not helping at all too.
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We cod and he tested the phone and he also agreed on the warranty issue. Pls refer to my whatsapp. I dont believe him anymore as he could scam me with fake charger and fake cable later.

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post Dec 23 2013, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(StratOS @ Dec 23 2013, 09:14 AM)
This way too rclxub.gif

suntzulee.. no matter how i read, not bias'ed. Why are you accusing the buyer for the charger now? He want to settle the earpod ONLY with you.

You got scam by the previous seller right? Thats your problem for not knowing ori and fake no?

Now Crozac is your buyer and you hold responsibility to help him right? He found out the earpod is a fake, why not help him instead of accusing him will say everything else is a fake.

This just makes you look like a fool running away with excuses again you know.. doh.gif
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I need to clarify 2 things from him first. Please answer me is the charger is ori? Is the cable also ori? I dont later he come back and scam me again.

If he is honest at the first place, yes i'm willingly to help him from the beginning. However, he already made destruction and nasty remarks here. I also no confident he's telling the truth either. Let him answer me here. If he is honest this time, i'm willing to help him.

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